Utahns in poll also support an independent redistricting panel
Let me see if I understand this. Now that the pressure is on to force a change,
the legislature is willing to make some changes. They say “trust us, we
will do the right thing.” Please vote for these changes so
that the legislature understands in no uncertain terms that we the people mean
business. Otherwise they may pass something, but then when the heat is off
repeal the laws. (Remember term limits?)
How about someone (hint, Des-News) doing a background check of the organizers of
these two initiative groups? Wouldn't all Utahns benefit from shining a light
on exactly who is pulling the financial strings behind these groups.My
cynical analysis is that the ethics initiative is driven by people who want to
exercise control over my legislators by threat, and that the redistricting folks
are Democrat Party plants.My two responses: 1) I want to control my
legislators, and I do, by virtue of my vote and my voice - each year, I e-mail
them to tell them it's time to stop taking bribes. 2) Until the redistricting
folks show me sister groups in Illinois, Michigan, and dozens of other
Democrat-controlled states, they are pursuing a narrow political agenda.Until we know all the facts, odds are that these two groups are not working
for all Utahns. The question is, who are their true bosses?
I'd suggest that every one read the (very long) law before you sign. I was
shocked at how poorly thought out and irresponsible it is. Ethics are good.
This proposal is not the solution.
For years and years, Utah citizens have been telling the Legislature that they
want a strong ethics law. For years and years, the Legislature has been blowing
us off. No way will I wait any longer for the Legislature to do the right
thing--that's a chump's game. The Legislature has had its chance. Now it's the
people's turn to be heard.
You cannot legislate ethics! People or ethical or not. I guess you can create
laws as to penalties, but by who's standard do you determine ethics? I am sure
my laughable rep from West Jordan would deam his comments completely ethical,
but I don't so who measures? We are getting into very muddy waters here!
I have an idea. Stop voting for these people. Demand candidates that truly
promote your interests. Our system has a "fix" built in. It's called elections.
Trust us - we are the best legislators that money can buy.
1. No gifts whatsoever2. No lobbyistsThe legislators and their
friends will try to nick pick this to death. They do not want to change.
this nation is going to the dogs. We need new leadership everywhere. We must
clean house and elect some term limiting people who have not been corrupted by
the criminal elements we find throughout our government. The Obama crowd is an
embarrasment to us all.
I am all for ethics reform----but sensible ethics reform. This bill puts too
much control in the hands of 5 people, and there are some other parts of the
bill that don't make sense! Read the bill first before you decide you are for
agreeing with Mom of 4. Have you read this thing? There are parts that will
make you LOL and other parts that are completely illogical.Reform is
one thing. This is just silly.
I still think the legislature should limit the number of bills it can introduce
during a session. Some other states do so. Then,the legislators ccould read
what they are voting on.
What makes me "LOL" (learning from the kids??) is that the legislature is
getting forced because they wouldn't take action after all these years. Serves
them right. LOL
on Judges, Box Elder County has the most hated Judge still sitting on the Bench.
Judge? Kevin Christensen.Liar and story teller.Hateful and