I'm surprised that DH denied himself the chance to replay the increasingly tired
statistic that a BYU senior quarterback has never failed to lead BYU to a
conference championship.So unlike Dick to show that kind of
restraint to his native BYU homer-ism.
Everytime BYU loses, and they lose more than they should to teams they
shouldn't, Bronco says it is his fault he didn't prepare the team for the game.
I hope this new approach prepares the team or else it is time for a new coach to
Newfound humility, a favorable home schedule, Max Hall's experienced arm, and
the joy-to-watch-pound-through-line Unga should make the Cougars formidable this
season.It's a shame only about half the folks that want to will be
able to watch.Now, if only a solid defensive scheme could be come
by, and The Mtn convinced to give up a game to a larger network once in a while,
the Y could make some national noise this season.
I know!Let's recruit Cowherd to say the Cougars don't stand a chance
"I'm not perfect and neither is the team." But they're questing to become
If they play the same way against TCU and Utah, it won't matter where those
games are played. They flat out got smoked. That'll have to improve.
They realize how stupid they're "quest for perfection" slogan was last
year and sounds to me like Bronco is appropriately embarrassed by it. At least
he's learned from it.
preseaon schedule ( a real possibility that they'll be 0-3 to start the year).
However, come conference time, I think they sweep through unblemished and go on
to win the infamous Las Vegas Bowl!!
"But they're questing to become perfect."Did ya figure that out all
by your lonesome?
Before you spout off about "stupid slogans", try completing a grammar course
first... their versus they're versus there 101. Or, maybe you could take your
versus you're 201. These are offered at SLCC. It will improve your credibility
and maybe, just maybe, people will take what you have to say seriously.
Does this mean they might take bowl game preparation seriously and actually have
more than 6 practices before the game?And can we expect the coaches
to be prepared and prepare the players to play for each game?
Tough: "a real possibility" that they'll be 0-3 to start the year? Tulane has
been picked as the worst team in their division of C-USA. 0-3 is exactly as
likely as 3-0; both would take a serious upset. 2-1 is the reasonable best case.
1-2 is a real possibility.CJJ: OU and Tulane games will be on ESPN
and ESPN2 respectively.I'm of course hoping for 3-0, but I'm just
looking forward to some good football.
I have BYU with three losses this year. Utes, BYU, and TCU will all have one
conference loss for a three way tie for the MWC Championship. BYU gets picked
for the Vegas bowl.Good season. Glad to see BYU able to schedule
some quality opponents this year. We thought we had one last year in UCLA.
Frustrating to discover how bad they were.
When will we have another leak about the Y's program?? - think former BYU
offensive lineman Jason Scukanec.... what's obvious to all....
RE Meyer: I guess not....
MeyerI am not remembering any "leaks" from Jason Scukanec. Other
than "Coach French made the O-Line jump rope every day, I mean look at me, I am
300 pounds. That has to be the dumbest training method in the history of college
football. No wonder Staley was barely able to rush..." Did he end up in the NFL
and report that he knew guys throughout his career that used performance
enhancing drugs (no names, just a bunch of guys, they're everywhere man)? Is
that the "leak"?Dallas Tickets:UCLA was a bad team last
year, but nobody else put even close to 59-0 on them. Remember this time last
year that was the only game we talked about, I think the team was the same. They
were up for an at home re-match, and played a game that made a "compotent" (they
ended up near .500) team look like a prep squad. I think that is what happened
last year. 0 points from a Chow offense. The team were done 5 weeks into the
season, that was what they trained for and focused on all summer. Bronco
understands his error, and will improve.
So nothing new about the Y's program in 8 - 10 years, eh, Meyer? Oh yeah, Scuk
is the ultimate impartial source.
Thnks for the 411, Levin. Great way to kick off a season!
Go Cougars. Love you forever!
Football season can't get here soon enough! It will be interesting
to see if a new attitude, a willingness and/or ability to adjust the gameplan on
the fly, and some new wrinkles will boost BYU this year. The offense should be
awesome and hopefully the defense will be improved.Also, I'm
guessing more Ute fans will post their vitriol about the Y on this article today
than will post praise for their own team on their preview article tomorrow.Go Cougars!
Sorry, I goofed.The U's article was yesterday. Guess that shows how
uninterested I am in that program.Sorry for the confusion.
Almost here guys!!!!! This may not be a quest for perfection, but when we take
care of Oklahoma, this will be another national championship team!!!! We are
the best, better than all the rest. Bronco knows what he is doing and he will
be the first to go to a REAL BCS bowl.Go Cougars!!!!
Jason Scukanec made his allegations 4 years ago in 2005... He never backed off
either. There are still players in the pipeline from that time.... If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's a duck..... A lot of people
believe Scukanec merely pointed out the obvious, but it seems Y fans want to
stick their heads in the sand and deny what's going on.... Hey don't feel bad,
it happens all over the place including high schools....Coaches just look the
I just thought, since the order of publication of these previews was based on
inverse predicted finish this year that the U would come after the Y. After all, isn't the U of U the reigning national champions, with the longest
bowl and regular season victory streak in the history of mankind?Again, sorry for the confusion.
Losing Brandon Howard is not a weakness. This was the best news we had the
entire off season.
"We're humble enough." This is why BYU is so much fun to poke fun
Anae: Run more, hide your plays betterHill: Play Defense, get aggressive,
get some pressureAs a U fan, BYU could've easily beat us but they
kept on throwing pics instead of running, every time they ran they got a first
down or TD, so I'm hoping they keep passing at us next yearAlso, their
defense was the worst defense I've ever seen Utah play against, if Hill is to
ever get promoted he needs a defense to step up and make some stats...which have
been very pathetic
0-3 is NOT a real possibility.I am only saying this because Tulane has a
horrible program. They are ranked below USU, and in the bottom 7 in division I
teams this year.If the cougs lose to Tulane, they need to fire their
entire coaching staff.I think their is a possibility they will be 1-2
after 3 games (with losses to OU and FSU).
Look for 2009 to be similar to 2006. Senior quarterback with everything to prove
leads an experienced and balanced offense with a defense returning a fair amount
of starters.Max Hall, like Beck in '06, will have lots to prove,
starting with big non-conference games against Oklahoma and Florida State.
Harvey Unga has been training hard and should look more like the exciting back
we saw his freshman year.One thing the Cougars have going for them
this year that they didn't have in '06 is their home schedule. Not only do they
get Florida State at home, making that game winnable, but they get all the MWC
bowl teams from last year at home: TCU, Utah, Air Force, and Colorado State,
with TCU and Utah obviously being the most important. (Ask Utah if getting BYU
and TCU at home last year made a difference.)Regular season
predictions for MWC "Big Three"BYU 11-1, 8-0 MWC (loss to Oklahoma)TCU 11-1, 7-1 MWC (loss to BYU)Utah 9-3, 6-2 MWC (losses to BYU, TCU,
@to the coordinators | 8:33 a.m. July 31, 2009Anae: Run more, hide your
plays betterHill: Play Defense, get aggressive, get some pressure- Agree with both. Although since BYU has been weak in the secondary they have
had to drop back linebackers into coverage. Maybe that will change a little this
year with a little more depth thanks to some JC transfers. And in Hill's
defense, Mendenhall has been calling defensive plays up until this year. He
announced several weeks ago that Hill will be taking over more of the defensive
playcalling.As a U fan, BYU could've easily beat us but they kept on
throwing pics instead of running, every time they ran they got a first down or
TD, so I'm hoping they keep passing at us next year- Agreed. Most
Utah fans forget that BYU was only down three points going into the fourth
quarter. And Max Hall was ALREADY playing the worst game of his life with
several interceptions and a fumble at that point. Had Anae continued to put the
ball on the ground, we could have seen an exciting finish.
Everyone! Remember this posting;BYU upset on October 10th vs UNLV.
As a BYU fan I look at the the guys we are sending out on defense and quite
frankly we lack playmakers. Jorgenson is okay and then who is there? Without any
pass rush our slow and mediocre secondary is going to get eaten alive this year.
We are probably going to lose 4 games. People that are comparing this year to
2006 forget that the 2006 team had better linebackers than this team does.
"If Russell T leaves for a mission..."This breaks my heart. He was
all decided just a month ago, and now Bronco may have changed his mind. I'm glad
I can't hear the meetings Bronco has had with Russell lately. I think they would
be rather sad. What happened to the priorities?
If your prediction is correct, the questions will become whether BYU or an
undefeated and untested BSU team will deserve the token non-AQ BCS bid. I think
it would boil down to how close BYU played against OU in a loss and whether OU
won the big 12. Boise State's only test is their home opener against Oregon,
then it's all cake.
All I care about is getting revenge on TCU. Those guys embarrased the heck out
of us last year. According to their coach, they were focused on beating BYU for
10 months leading up to the massacre. TCU is going to face a different team on
October 24th. I guarantee that Bronco will not allow his team to get beat by
TCU in Provo. Bring it on Texas!
Let's see...Utah barely beat TCU. TCU kicked the you know what out of BYU. TCU
beat BSU by one. That means that last year had Boise State been in the MWC, BYU
would have finished fourth. By the way have I mentioned that BSU is 3-0 aainst
the "U" and the"Y"? Bring on these Mountain West juggernauts, and watch the
Broncos and Coach Petersen whip their little hiney's.
BYU is going to pull out a huge upset against oklahoma and florida st. and then
we will handle everyone else in the conference. national tital baby!!!
Love the quote mentioned from Ha Ha, "we're humble enough" good catch, that is
just classic. Anyway, I've finally decided on one thing to give BYU credit for
- they win the games they're supposed to win, especially at home. BYU doesn't
lose to inferior programs very often. The U under coach Whit stuggled with that
until last year. However, you can't deny that they have the weakest consecutive
10 win seasons in history. I don't recall all the games, but aside from a
couple Utah wins and maybe a decent Oregon team in the bowl, how many of those
opponents were either ranked had at least 8 wins themselves? how many were on
the road out of conference? WA? Kudos for taking care of your business against
inferior teams, but beat a good team before your start pretending you're a
national power please. Take care of your business with OU and FSU
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Once you take care of Oklahoma. Good one. Yeah that #2 team
in the nation with the Heisman winning quarterback is just a bump in the road.
He's not on a mission to win a national championshiip or anything. They should
bow to the MIGHTY cougars fairly early in the game. My prediction, Oklahoma
65-17, with BYU scoring 10 points after Oklahoma's scrubs get put in the third
BYU's finish this year. Love the Cougs--but sorry, folks, no way they get past
Oklahoma or TCU, even with the Frogs in Provo. BYU's usually had a rough time in
season-openers, and to start off with the Sooners is a killer. The
good news: Max will keep the bees out of his helmet and beat the Utes this year
in a close game, but at least with BYU on the right side of the scoreboard. The
Cougs win the LV Bowl (no other choice--see below) this year, too.TCU's this year's MWC BCS buster, BTW. Anyone who scoffs--just Google their
schedule. They open at Virginia, a wildcard but clearly winnable if they play
like last year. SMU and North Texas? Please. The Utes play in Fort W, and TCU
will have their number, as with BYU last year. At Clemson and at BYU are likely
to be TCU's toughest games--both winnable.Love BYU, but gotta pick
TCU to run the table this year. Oh--and a set of never-satisfied fickle "BYU
fans" will STILL call for Bronco's dismissal. Some things never change. (Sigh.)
No doubt BYU will be good, but they will struggle with the speed of OU and FSU
early, particularly along the offensive line and in the secondary. They may beat
FSU, but primarily because it is at home. If TCU and Utah are as fast this year
as they were last year on defense, they will be competitive games, but BYU does
have the advantage of being at home. I think TCU will be better this year than
last year, while BYU is about the same and Utah has too many unknowns right now.
TCU will win the conference.
Re: Hmmm... | 9:09 a.m. July 31, 2009If your prediction is correct, the
questions will become whether BYU or an undefeated and untested BSU team will
deserve the token non-AQ BCS bid. I think it would boil down to how close BYU
played against OU in a loss and whether OU won the big 12. Boise State's only
test is their home opener against Oregon, then it's all cake.-----Oregon is going to be one of the stronger teams in the Pac-10
this year. They looked very sharp in their bowl game against Oklahoma State (who
was also looking good towards the end of the year) and return lots of players,
including QB Masoli. Unless Boise can knock him out of the game again, he's
going to be trouble for the Broncos.But I still think an 11-1 BYU
would still get a BCS bid over an undefeated Boise State. Had TCU beaten Utah
last year, they would have played in a BCS bowl over Boise State, regardless of
their loss. BYU would have wins over FSU, TCU, and Utah, and BSU could only
claim Oregon, much like last year.
We will lose to OU, FSU and TCU because those three teams bring top-25 caliber
speed and the Cougs simply do not match up well against speed. Breaking in a new
offensive line will be a struggle as well. But we have enough playmakers to go
9-3 and hopefully get a win in the Vegas bowl and end up around #20 to finish
the season. A huge key is whether Tonga qualifies and is healthy.
When healthy he is an NFL ready FB. Russell T is a senior. I hope he
plays this season and serves a mission after. He is not going to the NFL so why
not finish his career and then go? I wish others would do the same. A more
mature kid with a college career and hopefully degree behind him would make a
terrific missionary and leader. Marriage can wait too for our youth who marry
way too young.
11-2 | 9:29 a.m. July 31, 2009TCU's this year's MWC BCS buster, BTW.
Anyone who scoffs--just Google their schedule. They open at Virginia, a wildcard
but clearly winnable if they play like last year. SMU and North Texas? Please.
The Utes play in Fort W, and TCU will have their number, as with BYU last year.
At Clemson and at BYU are likely to be TCU's toughest games--both winnable.-----I think BYU could very well lose to TCU, but I don't
think TCU is unbeatable. Let's not forget that in 2006 they were the BCS
darlings, the team to beat, and expected to roll through the MWC. BYU won
convincingly -- in Fort Worth. BYU is always a tough team at home -- i expect
that game to be one of the closest games either team will play all year.I expect to see a 6-1 BYU team in the top 25 going against a 6-0 TCU
team in the top 15. Whoever wins the game has a great shot at a BCS game if they
Prediction: BYU will lose 42-24 to OU, and then will beat Tulane and Florida
State. They will win out in the conference, unless they lose to TCU, but should
take the conference title. Utah will end up in third in the conference and will
go to the Armed Forces bowl.Hall and company will set all kinds of
offense records this year as they open up the running attack in little
flare-outs to Unga and DiLuigi. Just watch, it's gonna be a great year in
It's good to see the sparks flying long before the season opener. We either hate
Bronco or love him. What is it going to be this year?? Of coarse we all have the
imput to get the Coug's where they need to be, so here is mine. When is Bronco
going give up and "officially" let the defencive Corr. do his job. Quite
changing in and out of defencive schemes. Pick a defence and stick with it. If
you need to tweek it, do it as needed. No wonders his defence always looked so
lost. Are we going to have a secondary this year?? I guess time will only tell
and OU is ready to do it. Bronco give us something to watch and enjoy, because
Whittingham is sure giving it to us up North.
Speed, Speed and More Speed | 9:59 a.m. July 31, 2009We will lose to OU,
FSU and TCU because those three teams bring top-25 caliber speed and the Cougs
simply do not match up well against speed. Breaking in a new offensive line will
be a struggle as well. But we have enough playmakers to go 9-3 and hopefully get
a win in the Vegas bowl and end up around #20 to finish the season. -----I agree that BYU struggles against teams with more "speed"
but let's not chalk them up as losses immediately. Example: The same thing was
said about UCLA last year, how they were simply faster on defense and would keep
BYU in check. Now, I know UCLA was disappointing last year, but the fact is they
had much more athletic players on the field than BYU. It's more a matter of if
BYU can execute their game plan better than the other team, speed isn't the only
factor.Utah fans can also vouch for this based on the Alabama game.
Based on speed and athleticism, Alabama should have dominated that game."Speed" alone doesn't win the game.
Who cares? The Mountain West is about as relevant to football as the Green
Party is to elections.
Love/Hate | 10:03 a.m. July 31, 2009It's good to see the sparks flying
long before the season opener. We either hate Bronco or love him. What is it
going to be this year?? Of coarse we all have the imput to get the Coug's where
they need to be, so here is mine. When is Bronco going give up and "officially"
let the defencive Corr. do his job. -----Mendenhall
announced around the time of the MWC media days that Jaime Hill would be calling
defensive plays this season and that he would make suggestions or call plays on
a case-by-case basis, such as in key situations, etc.
"I expect to see a 6-1 BYU team in the top 25 going against a 6-0 TCU team in
the top 15. Whoever wins the game has a great shot at a BCS game if they win
out."Agreed with the scenario. I just think TCU will take that one
in a 3-points-or-less win. I wouldn't say the Frogs are unbeatable, either--put
them up against someone like Florida, Georgia or Oklahoma and it'd be a
different story--but I don't see anyone now on their schedule beating them, in
or out of the MWC. To be clear: I also see TCU *making* the BCS, but
not necessarily *winning,* since it'll be their toughest contest of the year by
far. (Though they'll at least do better than Hawaii.) :) A loss wouldn't help
the MWC's case.
Hummm, only five loss in the last 3 years. No excuses need! I do believe the
utes have more during that time frame.
"Y Taking Different Approach"How about "Quest for Humility" tee
Until the Cougars have a Defense they will not be as great as they can be!!!
to reality tv...ok, i will make sure to write that prediction down
and remember it so i can congratulate you if you are right.
As far as comparing the 2009 squad to the 2006 squad they certainly aren't the
same team. But I think there are a few differences. First off in terms of
offense, I think they are similarly talented and in some ways could be better
than in 2006, meaning that there is as many or more weapons this year, and
better athletes. John Beck was a great QB and the question mark is can Max Hall
be as sharp with his decision making. I agree that the '06 defense was better,
but the 2009 defense will be no doormat. As a unit they will be stronger against
the run and bring more pressure to the QB, which will limit points and yards
better. I don't know if they'll be a top 25 defense but they could be close if
they work hard.Secondly I hope we wipe the floor with TCU too. I
doubt we'll do that but I think we'll at least beat them. I didn't like the
feeling of last year's game with them. It wasn't a friendly game and it's almost
like they took the 2007 loss personally.
I know this is a very unlikey scenario but wouldn't it tick off U fans if BYU
goes undefeated and ends up ranked 2nd in the BCS, thus playing in the BCS
Championship game? Notice I did NOT say "National Championship game".It would also irritate U fans if BYU goes 11-1 (loss to OK) and plays in a BCS
game and have the claim of being the first BCS buster with a loss.
Bronco accidentally revealed what the 2009 BYU football slogan is:WE'RE HUMBLE ENOUGH
"It would also irritate U fans if BYU goes 11-1 (loss to OK) and plays in a BCS
game and have the claim of being the first BCS buster with a loss. "That could only happen to a program that is respected nationally, which by the
way BYU is and has been for 25+ years :-)
We wouldn't know, the "why?" has never done anything of that caliber in the
entire history of their program.However, just out of curiousity, how
does it feel for YOU to see your hated rival smash BOTH opponents in the "Big
Game" arenas of BCS Bowls? Especially since that's been your goal for the last
decade, have been beating your [preseason] chests about your self-appointed
"superior" program, only to annually falling flat on your collective faces and
submit to watching the UTES do what you could not. We UTES don't
know what that must feel like. But, if I were to guess, I envision "why?" fans
watching the UTES on TV in our "Big Boy" Bowl game, while wiping their tears and
sucking their thumbs - the SAME thumb they'd been sitting on during 9 out of the
15 practices allotted the cougars in their run up to the Las Vegas Bowl, that
is.I LOVE college football. And ripping zoobs just makes it THAT
much more entertaining. GO UTES!!!
It's always nice to dream. But no way will BYU go undefeated this year. In all
likelihood, the Cougs won't even be 1-0.Don't get me wrong--I'll
cheer just as loud as the next guy in Provo if the Y beats Oklahoma, and then
everybody else. But I'm not expecting it to happen, and anybody who does is just
setting themselves up for disappointment.Classic "BYU fan" behavior,
BTW--shooting for the stars and crying when they can't hit them. One sound
reason why so many people inside and out of Utah can't stand BYU.Set
your goals for an undefeated season, sure--and then when the best you can
produce given your effort and competition is 10-3, learn from it and try to
improve. But for heck's sakes, don't act like the world's just crashed down
around your shoulders and start eating your own young. Haven't "BYU
fans" who delude themselves and then overreact to the inevitable disappointment
ever understood how idiotic they look and sound? I didn't think so.
The Mountain West Conference is on a par with the WAC. Both are obscure
conferences with absolutely no chance at a national football title!
Hey Coach - actually if you did your homework you would know the Mountain West
Conference was ranked #4 (#4 out of 12 conferences) in the Nation... Ahead of
ACC and Big Ten....2008 Final Conference Rankings:1. SEC2.
BIg123. Pac104. MWC5. ACC6. Big107. BigEast8. CUSA9. Independent10. WAC11. MAC12. SunbeltThis is from the bible of college football "Phil Steele's 2009 college
football preview. Next time before you post rubish, do your
Actually, I took "Coach" to mean that in terms of the present BCS system, as far
as that system's concerned, the MWC is on par with the WAC. I don't think you
really need to do a lot of homework on that point.As long as the BCS
is in place, such football powers as Duke and UConn could in theory play for the
national title--even though Utah, BYU, TCU, Boise, and even Air Force would kick
their butts 9 out of 10 times. There's more parity in college football than
there was 40 years ago, but the BCS was implemented to try to preserve those
40-year-old interests.I think "Coach" would agree.
He didn't address the "true" weakness of this Cougar team in my opinion. There
are a lot of weaknesses on this years team and in my opinion I wouldn't be
shocked to see an 8-4 or 7-5 season. Go ahead Cougar faithfull...let
me have it....as is typical...
Funny how many Ute fans complain about BYU's "arrogant" Quest for Perfection
slogan, when one of the U's top athletic teams took it so much further by
actually printing t-shirts declaring them "2009 National Champions" during the
regular season. Yep, look it up - the U women's gymnastics team
printed those t-shirts before the tournament, and subsequently took 3rd place.
Printing up shirts declaring yourselves national champs before the tourney is
far more extreme than anything the BYU football team did. If you bag on the Y
for that, then you've got to bag worse on the U.
I'm not sure if anyone remembers the game tcu played right before byu. They
almost lost to csu because they were already preping for the byu game. Thisy ear
will be different. We can only hope that we play awesome vs ou and they overlook
us. If we pulled of the upset that would give us confidence for the rest of the
year... (Or pide which would cause problems)
Question for Dick?? - what is the "true" weakness?
BYU can get up for the big games, but they have the best overall record in the
MWC (according to the article in the last 4 years). But doesn't UTAH have more
quality wins in the time frame? So if BYU can get up for the big games and UTAH
can get up for the little games ... does that mean they both are helpless?
To all those Ute fans who think that BYU can't win the close games need to
remember the '07 BYU/Utah game, the '06 BYU/Utah game and the '01 BYU/Utah
game...that's just in this decade with two years left to go....Utah has churned
out some killer teams in the past few years, but as far as killer goes...it's
only been the past few years...The best thing Utah ever did was hire Urban
Meyer...He brought recruit after recruit...I.E. Brian Johnson. Good job to
Whittingham for doing a great job with what he had last year....Bronco has had a
tougher go around to tell the truth...Who was his frontrunner....Crowton? I give
him props for fixing what was broken...With each team having national attention
last year...it should be interesting so see what happens next year....
"However, just out of curiousity, how does it feel for YOU to see your hated
rival smash BOTH opponents in the "Big Game" arenas of BCS Bowls? Especially
since that's been your goal for the last decade, have been beating your
[preseason] chests about your self-appointed "superior" program, only to
annually falling flat on your collective faces and submit to watching the UTES
do what you could not.""We UTES don't know what that must feel like.
But, if I were to guess, I envision "why?" fans watching the UTES on TV in our
"Big Boy" Bowl game, while wiping their tears and sucking their thumbs - the
SAME thumb they'd been sitting on during 9 out of the 15 practices allotted the
cougars in their run up to the Las Vegas Bowl, that is."Actually,
while being a big BYU fan, I was rooting for the Utes to win in both BCS games.
I was happy to see the SEC get taken down a notch last year (Alabama). Not once
did I shed a tear or have to do anything with my thumb. Thanks for the totally
classy and respectful comments though.
RE: ME | 12:19 p.m. I don't expect those to happen either but there
is nothing wrong with dreaming every now and then. I actaully expect BYU to go
10-2 in the regular season again with losses to OK and either TCU or Florida St
but not both.
What- not being slow & unathletic and losing to fast, athletic teams like Utah,
TCU, Arizona, Oklahoma, Florida State, etc?Krueger's still open!!It's like taking candy from a baby.
Why do Ute fans continue to use the "Krueger's still open" line? That play had
nothing to do with the outcome of the game. Take that play out and BYU still
loses by 17 at best instead of 24. Is that line supposed to make us feel bad?
BYU would have gotten thumped with or without it.Now let's use a
line that actually made the difference in the game. Here are a few examples:Harline's still open!!orCollie's still open!!Much better don't you think?
I can deal with dreaming big, so no problem. I can also deal with recognizing
and learning from past mistakes. So the BYU team--and its fans--might as well do
it, too. :) Sounds like you're on the level. I also wouldn't be
surprised to see another 10-2 regular season--let's hope not another 10-3. :)
But what gets under my skin (obviously) :) are the idiot "Y-ners" who fully
expect those dreams to become reality, and then whine and throw tantrums like
spoiled children when those dreams evaporate--as they always do.But
enough of that. It WOULD be wonderful and deliciously ironic to see BYU bust
the BCS this year--but that's one heck of an uphill climb. Better instead to
enjoy the success that DOES come while striving for improvement--and recognizing
that athletic greatness is a long-term project that just might feature a few
10-3 seasons. Hey, we could always have another coach and be 5-7
instead, right? Anybody besides Utah fans want the Cougs to go back to 2004?"ME," enjoy the ride!
No. Not exactly. After a 24 point beatdown, "Harline" and "Collie" don't
really have the same effect anymore. That's like saying, "The Utes are STILL
kicking field goals in a snow storm at LES". Nobody cares anymore, unless you
are BYU fan that is.
Your right. Let's change that Krueger line. Instead, let's tell the
unvarnished truth: Paul Kruger was the second best quarterback on the field at
RES that glorious day in November, right after Bryan Johnson!
Good luck Bronco. You have great players on and off the field. 0-3 or 3-0, we're
Here's a tasty morsel for the kittens. Dennis Dodd CBSSports.com
Senior Writer in his review of the best college football teams of the decade
puts the Utes at #10 and the lap kitties at #27. Final line: "Utah
is the No. 2 football factory west of the Rockies," after USC.BTW,
your next opponent... Oklahoma... is #2. Good luck with that.
ok, the true weakness is the inexperience of the OL, Max Hall's lack of
composure which will come out once the OL doesn't keep him upright, a huge
glaring and gaping hole on the dline and a huge lack of speed in the secondary.
Anyone with speed beats us. I call losses to OK. FSU, TCU, UNLV, and UTAH.
Wow! T-shirt smack?! Perhaps a little context is in order.When a
team reaches a championship match, it is tradition to have a few "Champion"
t-shirts prepared for the team to wear as part of a potential post-game
celebration. Shirts prepared for the non-winning teams end up being destroyed
or donated to humanitarion purposes.For example, I can guarantee you
there were a number of "Oklahoma National Champs" t-shirts that never saw the
light of day last January. (Not to mention the never-to-be-worn "Alabama Sugar
Bowl Champ" t-shirts!)So the Lady Utes, having earned their way to a
championship game, would have naturally had a few shirts prepared. Followers of
Utah sports have had the pleasure of cheering on gymnastics and basketball
squads that have made it to that level, and football teams that have twice made
it to elite bowl games.Of course this is a scenario unknown to BYU
fans... even in 1984 the football team was not playing in anything close to a
championship game. So your confusion is understandable.
Dick claims a strength for BYU is "Cougars return seven defensive starters"!!What the... where did you get your journalism degree from??? BYU!Forget about TCU and Utah but... is this the same defense that allowed
mighty Washington, UNLV (at LES), CSU, and UofA light up the scoreboard? With 7
returning starters YES it is. NO WAY is this a strength for BYU, no
matter how you try to spin it.
RE: | 7:47 a.m. July 31, 2009"UCLA was a bad team last year, but nobody
else put even close to 59-0 on them"What about the fact that last
year 0-12 Washington's highest points scored last year were against:1. 28 points against Standford2. 27 points against BYUNice
to know that same Defense is a strength for BYU this year.
ME | 11:28 a.m. July 31, 2009It would also irritate U fans if BYU goes
11-1 (loss to OK) and plays in a BCS game and have the claim of being the first
BCS buster with a loss.---------Yes and you can put the
BCS trophy (IF you win, we all know your bowl record) next to the national title
claim of being the ONLY champion to NOT to win a ranked team.
BYU's defense is NOT a strength but a weakness.Someone tell me how
returning 7 starters from a defense that let Washington, UNLV at home, CSU,
UofA, TCU, and Utah score 30+ points is a strength?Sorry, I don't
buy it. Just becasue they have experience won't make them any faster or
athletic this year then last.
Oklahoma has too much team speed for the Cougars to contend with. It will be
like a home game for them.Unless the Cougar defense can put a lot of
pressure on their QB (not likely), it will be a long day for Mendenhall and his
team. My prediction: UO: 45...BYU 17.
I agree, you've called it just as it's going to happen. Stop bragging Brothers.
This year is not going to be as good as some of you expect. 10 wins is just not
going to happen.
Don't forget also that those T-shirts the Red Rocks printed up were NEVER
marketed to the fans....unlike those tens of thousands of "Quest for Perfection"
t-shirts fans wore to the games, to class, to FHE, ad nauseam.Go
"No. Not exactly. After a 24 point beatdown, "Harline" and "Collie" don't really
have the same effect anymore. That's like saying, "The Utes are STILL kicking
field goals in a snow storm at LES". Nobody cares anymore, unless you are BYU
fan that is."Apparently they still have an effect or we wouldn't
keep getting the Krueger reference from Ute fans."Instead, let's
tell the unvarnished truth: Paul Kruger was the second best quarterback on the
field at RES that glorious day in November, right after Bryan Johnson!"???
I have to be honest, I have been loving these daily breakdowns of the MWC teams.
Today, when I got online to read the Y's preview, I actually thought the story
titled "BYU churning for more ice cream" was about their football team.
Because you either got smoked by a Mtn West team, or wish you were anywhere as
good as the Mtn West. Go back to Boise, or Alabama, whichever it may be.
Speed, Speed, Speed - Yes team speed is lacking, and at the key positions, like
the secondary, the linebackers, and defensive front, size, and strength...not
going to match up well against OU, or Florida State either, this fact will be
exposed...but the Cougs will give it their best effort and I can't ask more than
that! The team is what it is...we have good young men, working hard at playing
a very difficult and hard game, where precision routes, blocking schemes, etc.
all play a part in the overall success. I was so pleased to see the Cougs beat
UW in Seattle last year, and for me, that made the season worthwhile! No team
is going to win every game every season, year in and year out, I'm OK with that,
let's beat TCU and Utah this year, and win a bowl game! I wish the team and the
coaches the very best success! I'll be watching when on TV and listening on the
internet, GO COUGS!!! (If I lived in Utah I buy season tickets...and enjoy
every home game and atmosphere for the day! Love 'em or move on!!!)
First of all, learn how to spell "defense."And second of all, it's
quite simple. I'll try to explain it, and I'll use short and simple phrases so
that someone with your U of U education level can be sure to understand. The
more players play. the BETTER they get! It's called PRACTICE. Returning starters
are more likely to get better because of experience, it happens all the time.
The Oregon Ducks are a perfect example. They were spanked 38-8 in the Vegas Bowl
by us, and came back the next year with all the same players and became one of
the top 5 offenses in the country. They just got BETTER. Make sense? Probably
not to U, but it can't be explained any simpler than that.
A bunch of Coug commenters here seem hooked on speed (?). Fine, faster BYU
athletes would always be nicer. But you're all missing a key point--all the
speed in the world won't do the Cougs the slightest bit of good if they aren't
timing their routes, catching the ball, wrapping up the tackle, or correctly
executing the blocking schemes.It's called EXECUTION, people. And as
people who actually know their football can tell you, the team that's executing
the fundamentals and putting the game plan in action will beat the team that
isn't every time--even if that other team's got a bunch of 4.4 40-yard runners
and you're only 4.8. Especially if the 4.4 speedsters can't get under the darn
ball or cover a WR to save their lives, but your 4.8 people CAN!Now
if the armchair QBs out there want to talk speed AND execution, fine. But lay
off this crapola about speed just for speed's sake. Getting quicker is NOT the
only answer to winning more football games, or even the most important.
I wish people that post on these things actually knew the team. You guys sound
really dumb to me. FIrst off the top six cornerbacks all run between 4.5 and
4.3 40 times coming in including 3 JC cornerbacks who have always done well at
BYU. Secondly the offensive line lost starters but not experience there are
several guys coming back with lots of playing time. Two other comments, Florida
State is not the FSU of the past and very beatable at home, I would be shocked
if BYU lost that game and TCU at home will be revenge game which BYU has done
well in. I think some people just based things off of last year butforget this
is a different team with different players and attitudes. Please do your
research before you make stupid posts. I am also sick of all the comments
trying to discredit the national championship, I don't see any other 1984
national championship trophies except the one in Provo so like it or not they
won and have the trophy. The Utes have no trophy so lets just face reality
because that is a DUMB argument, facts people are what counts
BYU is still declaring themselves National Champs. I can't believe Presiednt
Monson allows a school that supposed to represent the church be so arrogant.
Pride killed the Nephites just like it will kill the Cougars in week 1.
Expectations will always fall short for BYU in this era. They can't do better
than the vegas bowl it just wont happen.
Because Boise has already" been there done that," if they run the table once
again they will be the "buster" over any one-loss MW team.
And yet, the 1984 championship still stands... despite the apparent resentment
from some parts of SLC. Apparently not from President Monson's office, though.
Anyway, back to more SENSIBLE topics...
wow I'm impressed with all the football experts!
Last year was an eye opener for all cougar fans the fact that Utah and TCU
had more speed was obvious. If we don't have better speed on defense this year
expect another 10 and 3 season or 9 and 4. From looking at the two deep depth
chart and the lack of speed at linebacker we maybe in trouble again. I will say
this for Utah and TCU they recruit speed. We may not have enough again this
year. Next year with recruiting sucess we have had across the country maybe
something for years to come. I am a realist I hope the rest of the cougar nation
I'm curious, do they teach geography and social skills in preparation for
college still?Cause not everyone in the world is from the US, and
more than one nation across the pond spells "defence" with a "c."Just in case you were curious, "offence" is another of those words that could
throw you off if you've never left the state of Utah.
Actually, the U women t-shirts were printed weeks before the gymnastics tourney
even started (thus, no role in the championship yet), and they had no problems
marketing them to the public via the news media. BYU's goal was one of
character perfection, the U's was a prideful boast that they would actually be
the tourney champion. Big difference!If you attack the Y, you must
therefore bash the U.
Mike, obviously, you didn't read the previous post about execution being more
important than speed in football. What good's a 4.3 DB who can't cover or tackle
to save his life or a 4.2 WR who runs the wrong routes or can't catch the darn
ball?Skills and execution are more important than speed alone, Mike.
Now if you want highly skilled and disciplined athletes who are ALSO fast, let's
talk. THAT will improve BYU, no question. But even "slow" athletes who have
their skills down and who execute the game plan can beat "fast" athletes who
aren't following the game plan. Even the U knows that, for heck's
sakes. It's what they did in the Sugar Bowl. They won because they had the
better game plan, and they stuck to it like glue. NOT because they were *faster*
than 'Bama--because they *played smarter.*As before, please everyone
stop this crapola about speed ONLY for speed's sake. It's not the X-factor.
EXECUTING THE GAME PLAN is.
My brother served in the same mission as Fuga over in Madagascar and Romney has
actually lost OVER 50 lbs, possibly upwards of 60 lbs. he may be changing
positions now that he's not OL size. we'll see.