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  • Senior Max
    July 30, 2009 10:55 p.m.

    I'm surprised that DH denied himself the chance to replay the increasingly tired statistic that a BYU senior quarterback has never failed to lead BYU to a conference championship.

    So unlike Dick to show that kind of restraint to his native BYU homer-ism.

  • Out of Excuses Bronco
    July 30, 2009 10:56 p.m.

    Everytime BYU loses, and they lose more than they should to teams they shouldn't, Bronco says it is his fault he didn't prepare the team for the game. I hope this new approach prepares the team or else it is time for a new coach to prepare them.

  • CJ3
    July 30, 2009 11:24 p.m.

    Newfound humility, a favorable home schedule, Max Hall's experienced arm, and the joy-to-watch-pound-through-line Unga should make the Cougars formidable this season.

    It's a shame only about half the folks that want to will be able to watch.

    Now, if only a solid defensive scheme could be come by, and The Mtn convinced to give up a game to a larger network once in a while, the Y could make some national noise this season.

  • CJ3
    July 30, 2009 11:26 p.m.

    I know!

    Let's recruit Cowherd to say the Cougars don't stand a chance in Dallas.

  • Bronco says,
    July 31, 2009 12:28 a.m.

    "I'm not perfect and neither is the team." But they're questing to become perfect.

  • Re: CJ3
    July 31, 2009 12:29 a.m.

    If they play the same way against TCU and Utah, it won't matter where those games are played. They flat out got smoked. That'll have to improve.

  • John H
    July 31, 2009 12:56 a.m.

    They realize how stupid they're "quest for perfection" slogan was last year and sounds to me like Bronco is appropriately embarrassed by it. At least he's learned from it.

  • Tough
    July 31, 2009 1:16 a.m.

    preseaon schedule ( a real possibility that they'll be 0-3 to start the year). However, come conference time, I think they sweep through unblemished and go on to win the infamous Las Vegas Bowl!!

  • Re: Bronco says,
    July 31, 2009 2:13 a.m.

    "But they're questing to become perfect."

    Did ya figure that out all by your lonesome?

  • re: John H
    July 31, 2009 4:14 a.m.

    Before you spout off about "stupid slogans", try completing a grammar course first... their versus they're versus there 101. Or, maybe you could take your versus you're 201. These are offered at SLCC. It will improve your credibility and maybe, just maybe, people will take what you have to say seriously.

  • RickH
    July 31, 2009 4:34 a.m.

    Does this mean they might take bowl game preparation seriously and actually have more than 6 practices before the game?

    And can we expect the coaches to be prepared and prepare the players to play for each game?

  • Levin
    July 31, 2009 6:02 a.m.

    Tough: "a real possibility" that they'll be 0-3 to start the year? Tulane has been picked as the worst team in their division of C-USA. 0-3 is exactly as likely as 3-0; both would take a serious upset. 2-1 is the reasonable best case. 1-2 is a real possibility.

    CJJ: OU and Tulane games will be on ESPN and ESPN2 respectively.

    I'm of course hoping for 3-0, but I'm just looking forward to some good football.

  • I have Dallas tickets
    July 31, 2009 6:41 a.m.

    I have BYU with three losses this year. Utes, BYU, and TCU will all have one conference loss for a three way tie for the MWC Championship. BYU gets picked for the Vegas bowl.

    Good season. Glad to see BYU able to schedule some quality opponents this year. We thought we had one last year in UCLA. Frustrating to discover how bad they were.

  • Meyer
    July 31, 2009 6:49 a.m.

    When will we have another leak about the Y's program?? - think former BYU offensive lineman Jason Scukanec.... what's obvious to all....

  • Anonymous
    July 31, 2009 7:46 a.m.

    RE Meyer: I guess not....

  • RE:
    July 31, 2009 7:47 a.m.

    Meyer

    I am not remembering any "leaks" from Jason Scukanec. Other than "Coach French made the O-Line jump rope every day, I mean look at me, I am 300 pounds. That has to be the dumbest training method in the history of college football. No wonder Staley was barely able to rush..." Did he end up in the NFL and report that he knew guys throughout his career that used performance enhancing drugs (no names, just a bunch of guys, they're everywhere man)? Is that the "leak"?

    Dallas Tickets:

    UCLA was a bad team last year, but nobody else put even close to 59-0 on them. Remember this time last year that was the only game we talked about, I think the team was the same. They were up for an at home re-match, and played a game that made a "compotent" (they ended up near .500) team look like a prep squad. I think that is what happened last year. 0 points from a Chow offense. The team were done 5 weeks into the season, that was what they trained for and focused on all summer. Bronco understands his error, and will improve.

  • Living in the Past....
    July 31, 2009 7:50 a.m.

    So nothing new about the Y's program in 8 - 10 years, eh, Meyer? Oh yeah, Scuk is the ultimate impartial source.

  • CJ3
    July 31, 2009 7:55 a.m.

    Thnks for the 411, Levin. Great way to kick off a season!

  • Cindy
    July 31, 2009 7:59 a.m.

    Go Cougars. Love you forever!

  • Eagerly Anticipating
    July 31, 2009 7:59 a.m.

    Football season can't get here soon enough!

    It will be interesting to see if a new attitude, a willingness and/or ability to adjust the gameplan on the fly, and some new wrinkles will boost BYU this year. The offense should be awesome and hopefully the defense will be improved.

    Also, I'm guessing more Ute fans will post their vitriol about the Y on this article today than will post praise for their own team on their preview article tomorrow.

    Go Cougars!

  • Won't be Anticipating
    July 31, 2009 8:16 a.m.

    Sorry, I goofed.

    The U's article was yesterday. Guess that shows how uninterested I am in that program.

    Sorry for the confusion.

  • Jim Hawks
    July 31, 2009 8:17 a.m.

    Almost here guys!!!!! This may not be a quest for perfection, but when we take care of Oklahoma, this will be another national championship team!!!! We are the best, better than all the rest. Bronco knows what he is doing and he will be the first to go to a REAL BCS bowl.

    Go Cougars!!!!

  • Meyer
    July 31, 2009 8:18 a.m.

    Jason Scukanec made his allegations 4 years ago in 2005... He never backed off either. There are still players in the pipeline from that time....

    If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's a duck..... A lot of people believe Scukanec merely pointed out the obvious, but it seems Y fans want to stick their heads in the sand and deny what's going on.... Hey don't feel bad, it happens all over the place including high schools....Coaches just look the other way....

  • Misplaced Anticipation
    July 31, 2009 8:20 a.m.

    I just thought, since the order of publication of these previews was based on inverse predicted finish this year that the U would come after the Y.

    After all, isn't the U of U the reigning national champions, with the longest bowl and regular season victory streak in the history of mankind?

    Again, sorry for the confusion.

  • LV Coug
    July 31, 2009 8:29 a.m.

    Losing Brandon Howard is not a weakness. This was the best news we had the entire off season.

  • ha ha
    July 31, 2009 8:29 a.m.

    "We're humble enough."

    This is why BYU is so much fun to poke fun at.

  • to the coordinators
    July 31, 2009 8:33 a.m.

    Anae: Run more, hide your plays better
    Hill: Play Defense, get aggressive, get some pressure

    As a U fan, BYU could've easily beat us but they kept on throwing pics instead of running, every time they ran they got a first down or TD, so I'm hoping they keep passing at us next year
    Also, their defense was the worst defense I've ever seen Utah play against, if Hill is to ever get promoted he needs a defense to step up and make some stats...which have been very pathetic

  • re:tough
    July 31, 2009 8:40 a.m.

    0-3 is NOT a real possibility.
    I am only saying this because Tulane has a horrible program. They are ranked below USU, and in the bottom 7 in division I teams this year.
    If the cougs lose to Tulane, they need to fire their entire coaching staff.
    I think their is a possibility they will be 1-2 after 3 games (with losses to OU and FSU).

  • Hmmm...
    July 31, 2009 8:43 a.m.

    Look for 2009 to be similar to 2006. Senior quarterback with everything to prove leads an experienced and balanced offense with a defense returning a fair amount of starters.

    Max Hall, like Beck in '06, will have lots to prove, starting with big non-conference games against Oklahoma and Florida State. Harvey Unga has been training hard and should look more like the exciting back we saw his freshman year.

    One thing the Cougars have going for them this year that they didn't have in '06 is their home schedule. Not only do they get Florida State at home, making that game winnable, but they get all the MWC bowl teams from last year at home: TCU, Utah, Air Force, and Colorado State, with TCU and Utah obviously being the most important. (Ask Utah if getting BYU and TCU at home last year made a difference.)

    Regular season predictions for MWC "Big Three"
    BYU 11-1, 8-0 MWC (loss to Oklahoma)
    TCU 11-1, 7-1 MWC (loss to BYU)
    Utah 9-3, 6-2 MWC (losses to BYU, TCU, Oregon)

  • Hmmm...
    July 31, 2009 8:52 a.m.

    @to the coordinators | 8:33 a.m. July 31, 2009
    Anae: Run more, hide your plays better
    Hill: Play Defense, get aggressive, get some pressure

    - Agree with both. Although since BYU has been weak in the secondary they have had to drop back linebackers into coverage. Maybe that will change a little this year with a little more depth thanks to some JC transfers. And in Hill's defense, Mendenhall has been calling defensive plays up until this year. He announced several weeks ago that Hill will be taking over more of the defensive playcalling.

    As a U fan, BYU could've easily beat us but they kept on throwing pics instead of running, every time they ran they got a first down or TD, so I'm hoping they keep passing at us next year

    - Agreed. Most Utah fans forget that BYU was only down three points going into the fourth quarter. And Max Hall was ALREADY playing the worst game of his life with several interceptions and a fumble at that point. Had Anae continued to put the ball on the ground, we could have seen an exciting finish.

  • Reality TV
    July 31, 2009 9:01 a.m.

    Everyone! Remember this posting;
    BYU upset on October 10th vs UNLV.

  • I see problems
    July 31, 2009 9:04 a.m.

    As a BYU fan I look at the the guys we are sending out on defense and quite frankly we lack playmakers. Jorgenson is okay and then who is there? Without any pass rush our slow and mediocre secondary is going to get eaten alive this year. We are probably going to lose 4 games. People that are comparing this year to 2006 forget that the 2006 team had better linebackers than this team does.

  • RT
    July 31, 2009 9:08 a.m.

    "If Russell T leaves for a mission..."

    This breaks my heart. He was all decided just a month ago, and now Bronco may have changed his mind. I'm glad I can't hear the meetings Bronco has had with Russell lately. I think they would be rather sad. What happened to the priorities?

  • Re: Hmmm...
    July 31, 2009 9:09 a.m.

    If your prediction is correct, the questions will become whether BYU or an undefeated and untested BSU team will deserve the token non-AQ BCS bid. I think it would boil down to how close BYU played against OU in a loss and whether OU won the big 12. Boise State's only test is their home opener against Oregon, then it's all cake.

  • TCU is going down
    July 31, 2009 9:20 a.m.

    All I care about is getting revenge on TCU. Those guys embarrased the heck out of us last year. According to their coach, they were focused on beating BYU for 10 months leading up to the massacre. TCU is going to face a different team on October 24th. I guarantee that Bronco will not allow his team to get beat by TCU in Provo. Bring it on Texas!

  • Shecky
    July 31, 2009 9:20 a.m.

    Let's see...Utah barely beat TCU. TCU kicked the you know what out of BYU. TCU beat BSU by one. That means that last year had Boise State been in the MWC, BYU would have finished fourth. By the way have I mentioned that BSU is 3-0 aainst the "U" and the"Y"? Bring on these Mountain West juggernauts, and watch the Broncos and Coach Petersen whip their little hiney's.

  • dude
    July 31, 2009 9:20 a.m.

    BYU is going to pull out a huge upset against oklahoma and florida st. and then we will handle everyone else in the conference.
    national tital baby!!!

  • Re: Ha Ha
    July 31, 2009 9:25 a.m.

    Love the quote mentioned from Ha Ha, "we're humble enough" good catch, that is just classic. Anyway, I've finally decided on one thing to give BYU credit for - they win the games they're supposed to win, especially at home. BYU doesn't lose to inferior programs very often. The U under coach Whit stuggled with that until last year. However, you can't deny that they have the weakest consecutive 10 win seasons in history. I don't recall all the games, but aside from a couple Utah wins and maybe a decent Oregon team in the bowl, how many of those opponents were either ranked had at least 8 wins themselves? how many were on the road out of conference? WA? Kudos for taking care of your business against inferior teams, but beat a good team before your start pretending you're a national power please. Take care of your business with OU and FSU

  • RE: Jim Hawks
    July 31, 2009 9:28 a.m.

    HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Once you take care of Oklahoma. Good one. Yeah that #2 team in the nation with the Heisman winning quarterback is just a bump in the road. He's not on a mission to win a national championshiip or anything. They should bow to the MIGHTY cougars fairly early in the game. My prediction, Oklahoma 65-17, with BYU scoring 10 points after Oklahoma's scrubs get put in the third quarter.

  • 11-2
    July 31, 2009 9:29 a.m.

    BYU's finish this year. Love the Cougs--but sorry, folks, no way they get past Oklahoma or TCU, even with the Frogs in Provo. BYU's usually had a rough time in season-openers, and to start off with the Sooners is a killer.

    The good news: Max will keep the bees out of his helmet and beat the Utes this year in a close game, but at least with BYU on the right side of the scoreboard. The Cougs win the LV Bowl (no other choice--see below) this year, too.

    TCU's this year's MWC BCS buster, BTW. Anyone who scoffs--just Google their schedule. They open at Virginia, a wildcard but clearly winnable if they play like last year. SMU and North Texas? Please. The Utes play in Fort W, and TCU will have their number, as with BYU last year. At Clemson and at BYU are likely to be TCU's toughest games--both winnable.

    Love BYU, but gotta pick TCU to run the table this year. Oh--and a set of never-satisfied fickle "BYU fans" will STILL call for Bronco's dismissal. Some things never change. (Sigh.)

  • Anonymous
    July 31, 2009 9:33 a.m.

    No doubt BYU will be good, but they will struggle with the speed of OU and FSU early, particularly along the offensive line and in the secondary. They may beat FSU, but primarily because it is at home. If TCU and Utah are as fast this year as they were last year on defense, they will be competitive games, but BYU does have the advantage of being at home. I think TCU will be better this year than last year, while BYU is about the same and Utah has too many unknowns right now. TCU will win the conference.

  • Hmmm...
    July 31, 2009 9:50 a.m.

    Re: Hmmm... | 9:09 a.m. July 31, 2009
    If your prediction is correct, the questions will become whether BYU or an undefeated and untested BSU team will deserve the token non-AQ BCS bid. I think it would boil down to how close BYU played against OU in a loss and whether OU won the big 12. Boise State's only test is their home opener against Oregon, then it's all cake.

    -----

    Oregon is going to be one of the stronger teams in the Pac-10 this year. They looked very sharp in their bowl game against Oklahoma State (who was also looking good towards the end of the year) and return lots of players, including QB Masoli. Unless Boise can knock him out of the game again, he's going to be trouble for the Broncos.

    But I still think an 11-1 BYU would still get a BCS bid over an undefeated Boise State. Had TCU beaten Utah last year, they would have played in a BCS bowl over Boise State, regardless of their loss. BYU would have wins over FSU, TCU, and Utah, and BSU could only claim Oregon, much like last year.

  • Speed, Speed and More Speed
    July 31, 2009 9:59 a.m.

    We will lose to OU, FSU and TCU because those three teams bring top-25 caliber speed and the Cougs simply do not match up well against speed. Breaking in a new offensive line will be a struggle as well. But we have enough playmakers to go 9-3 and hopefully get a win in the Vegas bowl and end up around #20 to finish the season.

    A huge key is whether Tonga qualifies and is healthy. When healthy he is an NFL ready FB.

    Russell T is a senior. I hope he plays this season and serves a mission after. He is not going to the NFL so why not finish his career and then go? I wish others would do the same. A more mature kid with a college career and hopefully degree behind him would make a terrific missionary and leader. Marriage can wait too for our youth who marry way too young.

  • Hmmm...
    July 31, 2009 10:01 a.m.

    11-2 | 9:29 a.m. July 31, 2009
    TCU's this year's MWC BCS buster, BTW. Anyone who scoffs--just Google their schedule. They open at Virginia, a wildcard but clearly winnable if they play like last year. SMU and North Texas? Please. The Utes play in Fort W, and TCU will have their number, as with BYU last year. At Clemson and at BYU are likely to be TCU's toughest games--both winnable.

    -----

    I think BYU could very well lose to TCU, but I don't think TCU is unbeatable. Let's not forget that in 2006 they were the BCS darlings, the team to beat, and expected to roll through the MWC. BYU won convincingly -- in Fort Worth. BYU is always a tough team at home -- i expect that game to be one of the closest games either team will play all year.

    I expect to see a 6-1 BYU team in the top 25 going against a 6-0 TCU team in the top 15. Whoever wins the game has a great shot at a BCS game if they win out.

  • Naysayers
    July 31, 2009 10:01 a.m.

    Prediction: BYU will lose 42-24 to OU, and then will beat Tulane and Florida State. They will win out in the conference, unless they lose to TCU, but should take the conference title. Utah will end up in third in the conference and will go to the Armed Forces bowl.

    Hall and company will set all kinds of offense records this year as they open up the running attack in little flare-outs to Unga and DiLuigi. Just watch, it's gonna be a great year in Cougarland.

  • Love/Hate
    July 31, 2009 10:03 a.m.

    It's good to see the sparks flying long before the season opener. We either hate Bronco or love him. What is it going to be this year?? Of coarse we all have the imput to get the Coug's where they need to be, so here is mine. When is Bronco going give up and "officially" let the defencive Corr. do his job. Quite changing in and out of defencive schemes. Pick a defence and stick with it. If you need to tweek it, do it as needed. No wonders his defence always looked so lost. Are we going to have a secondary this year?? I guess time will only tell and OU is ready to do it. Bronco give us something to watch and enjoy, because Whittingham is sure giving it to us up North.

  • Hmmm...
    July 31, 2009 10:25 a.m.

    Speed, Speed and More Speed | 9:59 a.m. July 31, 2009
    We will lose to OU, FSU and TCU because those three teams bring top-25 caliber speed and the Cougs simply do not match up well against speed. Breaking in a new offensive line will be a struggle as well. But we have enough playmakers to go 9-3 and hopefully get a win in the Vegas bowl and end up around #20 to finish the season.

    -----

    I agree that BYU struggles against teams with more "speed" but let's not chalk them up as losses immediately. Example: The same thing was said about UCLA last year, how they were simply faster on defense and would keep BYU in check. Now, I know UCLA was disappointing last year, but the fact is they had much more athletic players on the field than BYU. It's more a matter of if BYU can execute their game plan better than the other team, speed isn't the only factor.

    Utah fans can also vouch for this based on the Alabama game. Based on speed and athleticism, Alabama should have dominated that game.

    "Speed" alone doesn't win the game.

  • Anonymous
    July 31, 2009 10:28 a.m.

    Who cares? The Mountain West is about as relevant to football as the Green Party is to elections.

  • Hmmm...
    July 31, 2009 10:28 a.m.

    Love/Hate | 10:03 a.m. July 31, 2009
    It's good to see the sparks flying long before the season opener. We either hate Bronco or love him. What is it going to be this year?? Of coarse we all have the imput to get the Coug's where they need to be, so here is mine. When is Bronco going give up and "officially" let the defencive Corr. do his job.

    -----

    Mendenhall announced around the time of the MWC media days that Jaime Hill would be calling defensive plays this season and that he would make suggestions or call plays on a case-by-case basis, such as in key situations, etc.

  • RE: Hmmm... | 10:01 a.m.
    July 31, 2009 10:42 a.m.

    "I expect to see a 6-1 BYU team in the top 25 going against a 6-0 TCU team in the top 15. Whoever wins the game has a great shot at a BCS game if they win out."

    Agreed with the scenario. I just think TCU will take that one in a 3-points-or-less win. I wouldn't say the Frogs are unbeatable, either--put them up against someone like Florida, Georgia or Oklahoma and it'd be a different story--but I don't see anyone now on their schedule beating them, in or out of the MWC.

    To be clear: I also see TCU *making* the BCS, but not necessarily *winning,* since it'll be their toughest contest of the year by far. (Though they'll at least do better than Hawaii.) :) A loss wouldn't help the MWC's case.

  • Re: Out of Excuses Bronco
    July 31, 2009 10:56 a.m.

    Hummm, only five loss in the last 3 years. No excuses need! I do believe the utes have more during that time frame.

  • BOb 2
    July 31, 2009 10:58 a.m.

    "Y Taking Different Approach"

    How about "Quest for Humility" tee shirts?

  • Reality
    July 31, 2009 11:13 a.m.

    Until the Cougars have a Defense they will not be as great as they can be!!!

  • to reality tv
    July 31, 2009 11:18 a.m.

    to reality tv...

    ok, i will make sure to write that prediction down and remember it so i can congratulate you if you are right.

  • A few things
    July 31, 2009 11:20 a.m.

    As far as comparing the 2009 squad to the 2006 squad they certainly aren't the same team. But I think there are a few differences. First off in terms of offense, I think they are similarly talented and in some ways could be better than in 2006, meaning that there is as many or more weapons this year, and better athletes. John Beck was a great QB and the question mark is can Max Hall be as sharp with his decision making. I agree that the '06 defense was better, but the 2009 defense will be no doormat. As a unit they will be stronger against the run and bring more pressure to the QB, which will limit points and yards better. I don't know if they'll be a top 25 defense but they could be close if they work hard.

    Secondly I hope we wipe the floor with TCU too. I doubt we'll do that but I think we'll at least beat them. I didn't like the feeling of last year's game with them. It wasn't a friendly game and it's almost like they took the 2007 loss personally.

  • ME
    July 31, 2009 11:28 a.m.

    I know this is a very unlikey scenario but wouldn't it tick off U fans if BYU goes undefeated and ends up ranked 2nd in the BCS, thus playing in the BCS Championship game? Notice I did NOT say "National Championship game".

    It would also irritate U fans if BYU goes 11-1 (loss to OK) and plays in a BCS game and have the claim of being the first BCS buster with a loss.

  • The cat's out of the bag!
    July 31, 2009 11:44 a.m.

    Bronco accidentally revealed what the 2009 BYU football slogan is:

    WE'RE HUMBLE ENOUGH

  • re: ME
    July 31, 2009 11:53 a.m.

    "It would also irritate U fans if BYU goes 11-1 (loss to OK) and plays in a BCS game and have the claim of being the first BCS buster with a loss. "

    That could only happen to a program that is respected nationally, which by the way BYU is and has been for 25+ years :-)

  • re: ME
    July 31, 2009 12:16 p.m.

    We wouldn't know, the "why?" has never done anything of that caliber in the entire history of their program.

    However, just out of curiousity, how does it feel for YOU to see your hated rival smash BOTH opponents in the "Big Game" arenas of BCS Bowls? Especially since that's been your goal for the last decade, have been beating your [preseason] chests about your self-appointed "superior" program, only to annually falling flat on your collective faces and submit to watching the UTES do what you could not.

    We UTES don't know what that must feel like. But, if I were to guess, I envision "why?" fans watching the UTES on TV in our "Big Boy" Bowl game, while wiping their tears and sucking their thumbs - the SAME thumb they'd been sitting on during 9 out of the 15 practices allotted the cougars in their run up to the Las Vegas Bowl, that is.

    I LOVE college football. And ripping zoobs just makes it THAT much more entertaining.

    GO UTES!!!

  • RE: ME
    July 31, 2009 12:19 p.m.

    It's always nice to dream. But no way will BYU go undefeated this year. In all likelihood, the Cougs won't even be 1-0.

    Don't get me wrong--I'll cheer just as loud as the next guy in Provo if the Y beats Oklahoma, and then everybody else. But I'm not expecting it to happen, and anybody who does is just setting themselves up for disappointment.

    Classic "BYU fan" behavior, BTW--shooting for the stars and crying when they can't hit them. One sound reason why so many people inside and out of Utah can't stand BYU.

    Set your goals for an undefeated season, sure--and then when the best you can produce given your effort and competition is 10-3, learn from it and try to improve. But for heck's sakes, don't act like the world's just crashed down around your shoulders and start eating your own young.

    Haven't "BYU fans" who delude themselves and then overreact to the inevitable disappointment ever understood how idiotic they look and sound? I didn't think so.

  • Coach
    July 31, 2009 12:20 p.m.

    The Mountain West Conference is on a par with the WAC. Both are obscure conferences with absolutely no chance at a national football title!

  • re: Coach
    July 31, 2009 12:47 p.m.

    Hey Coach - actually if you did your homework you would know the Mountain West Conference was ranked #4 (#4 out of 12 conferences) in the Nation... Ahead of ACC and Big Ten....
    2008 Final Conference Rankings:
    1. SEC
    2. BIg12
    3. Pac10
    4. MWC
    5. ACC
    6. Big10
    7. BigEast
    8. CUSA
    9. Independent
    10. WAC
    11. MAC
    12. Sunbelt

    This is from the bible of college football "Phil Steele's 2009 college football preview.

    Next time before you post rubish, do your homework.

  • To re: Coach | 12:47 p.m.
    July 31, 2009 1:11 p.m.

    Actually, I took "Coach" to mean that in terms of the present BCS system, as far as that system's concerned, the MWC is on par with the WAC. I don't think you really need to do a lot of homework on that point.

    As long as the BCS is in place, such football powers as Duke and UConn could in theory play for the national title--even though Utah, BYU, TCU, Boise, and even Air Force would kick their butts 9 out of 10 times. There's more parity in college football than there was 40 years ago, but the BCS was implemented to try to preserve those 40-year-old interests.

    I think "Coach" would agree.

  • Question for Dick??
    July 31, 2009 1:21 p.m.

    He didn't address the "true" weakness of this Cougar team in my opinion. There are a lot of weaknesses on this years team and in my opinion I wouldn't be shocked to see an 8-4 or 7-5 season.

    Go ahead Cougar faithfull...let me have it....as is typical...

  • About that Quest for Perfection
    July 31, 2009 1:33 p.m.

    Funny how many Ute fans complain about BYU's "arrogant" Quest for Perfection slogan, when one of the U's top athletic teams took it so much further by actually printing t-shirts declaring them "2009 National Champions" during the regular season.

    Yep, look it up - the U women's gymnastics team printed those t-shirts before the tournament, and subsequently took 3rd place. Printing up shirts declaring yourselves national champs before the tourney is far more extreme than anything the BYU football team did. If you bag on the Y for that, then you've got to bag worse on the U.

  • Anonymous
    July 31, 2009 1:40 p.m.

    I'm not sure if anyone remembers the game tcu played right before byu. They almost lost to csu because they were already preping for the byu game. Thisy ear will be different. We can only hope that we play awesome vs ou and they overlook us. If we pulled of the upset that would give us confidence for the rest of the year... (Or pide which would cause problems)

  • TheCrow
    July 31, 2009 2:04 p.m.

    Question for Dick?? - what is the "true" weakness?

  • Big Games
    July 31, 2009 2:14 p.m.

    BYU can get up for the big games, but they have the best overall record in the MWC (according to the article in the last 4 years). But doesn't UTAH have more quality wins in the time frame? So if BYU can get up for the big games and UTAH can get up for the little games ... does that mean they both are helpless?

  • ??????
    July 31, 2009 2:21 p.m.

    To all those Ute fans who think that BYU can't win the close games need to remember the '07 BYU/Utah game, the '06 BYU/Utah game and the '01 BYU/Utah game...that's just in this decade with two years left to go....Utah has churned out some killer teams in the past few years, but as far as killer goes...it's only been the past few years...The best thing Utah ever did was hire Urban Meyer...He brought recruit after recruit...I.E. Brian Johnson. Good job to Whittingham for doing a great job with what he had last year....Bronco has had a tougher go around to tell the truth...Who was his frontrunner....Crowton? I give him props for fixing what was broken...With each team having national attention last year...it should be interesting so see what happens next year....

  • Re: re: Me @ 12:16
    July 31, 2009 2:41 p.m.

    "However, just out of curiousity, how does it feel for YOU to see your hated rival smash BOTH opponents in the "Big Game" arenas of BCS Bowls? Especially since that's been your goal for the last decade, have been beating your [preseason] chests about your self-appointed "superior" program, only to annually falling flat on your collective faces and submit to watching the UTES do what you could not."

    "We UTES don't know what that must feel like. But, if I were to guess, I envision "why?" fans watching the UTES on TV in our "Big Boy" Bowl game, while wiping their tears and sucking their thumbs - the SAME thumb they'd been sitting on during 9 out of the 15 practices allotted the cougars in their run up to the Las Vegas Bowl, that is."

    Actually, while being a big BYU fan, I was rooting for the Utes to win in both BCS games. I was happy to see the SEC get taken down a notch last year (Alabama). Not once did I shed a tear or have to do anything with my thumb. Thanks for the totally classy and respectful comments though.

  • ME
    July 31, 2009 2:54 p.m.

    RE: ME | 12:19 p.m.

    I don't expect those to happen either but there is nothing wrong with dreaming every now and then. I actaully expect BYU to go 10-2 in the regular season again with losses to OK and either TCU or Florida St but not both.

  • Different approach?
    July 31, 2009 3:05 p.m.

    What- not being slow & unathletic and losing to fast, athletic teams like Utah, TCU, Arizona, Oklahoma, Florida State, etc?

    Krueger's still open!!

    It's like taking candy from a baby.

  • Re: Different approach?
    July 31, 2009 3:27 p.m.

    Why do Ute fans continue to use the "Krueger's still open" line? That play had nothing to do with the outcome of the game. Take that play out and BYU still loses by 17 at best instead of 24. Is that line supposed to make us feel bad? BYU would have gotten thumped with or without it.

    Now let's use a line that actually made the difference in the game. Here are a few examples:

    Harline's still open!!
    or
    Collie's still open!!

    Much better don't you think?

  • RE: ME | 2:54 p.m.
    July 31, 2009 3:49 p.m.

    I can deal with dreaming big, so no problem. I can also deal with recognizing and learning from past mistakes. So the BYU team--and its fans--might as well do it, too. :)

    Sounds like you're on the level. I also wouldn't be surprised to see another 10-2 regular season--let's hope not another 10-3. :) But what gets under my skin (obviously) :) are the idiot "Y-ners" who fully expect those dreams to become reality, and then whine and throw tantrums like spoiled children when those dreams evaporate--as they always do.

    But enough of that. It WOULD be wonderful and deliciously ironic to see BYU bust the BCS this year--but that's one heck of an uphill climb. Better instead to enjoy the success that DOES come while striving for improvement--and recognizing that athletic greatness is a long-term project that just might feature a few 10-3 seasons.

    Hey, we could always have another coach and be 5-7 instead, right? Anybody besides Utah fans want the Cougs to go back to 2004?

    "ME," enjoy the ride!

  • Re: Re: Different approach?
    July 31, 2009 3:57 p.m.

    No. Not exactly. After a 24 point beatdown, "Harline" and "Collie" don't really have the same effect anymore. That's like saying, "The Utes are STILL kicking field goals in a snow storm at LES". Nobody cares anymore, unless you are BYU fan that is.

  • Re: Different approach? | 3:27
    July 31, 2009 4:10 p.m.

    Your right. Let's change that Krueger line.

    Instead, let's tell the unvarnished truth: Paul Kruger was the second best quarterback on the field at RES that glorious day in November, right after Bryan Johnson!

  • Dixie Coug
    July 31, 2009 4:31 p.m.

    Good luck Bronco. You have great players on and off the field. 0-3 or 3-0, we're with you.

  • Utah 10, TCU 20, BYU 27
    July 31, 2009 4:34 p.m.

    Here's a tasty morsel for the kittens.

    Dennis Dodd CBSSports.com Senior Writer in his review of the best college football teams of the decade puts the Utes at #10 and the lap kitties at #27.

    Final line: "Utah is the No. 2 football factory west of the Rockies," after USC.

    BTW, your next opponent... Oklahoma... is #2. Good luck with that.

  • True Weakness is
    July 31, 2009 4:35 p.m.

    ok, the true weakness is the inexperience of the OL, Max Hall's lack of composure which will come out once the OL doesn't keep him upright, a huge glaring and gaping hole on the dline and a huge lack of speed in the secondary. Anyone with speed beats us. I call losses to OK. FSU, TCU, UNLV, and UTAH.

  • re: About that Quest for Perfect
    July 31, 2009 4:47 p.m.

    Wow! T-shirt smack?! Perhaps a little context is in order.

    When a team reaches a championship match, it is tradition to have a few "Champion" t-shirts prepared for the team to wear as part of a potential post-game celebration. Shirts prepared for the non-winning teams end up being destroyed or donated to humanitarion purposes.

    For example, I can guarantee you there were a number of "Oklahoma National Champs" t-shirts that never saw the light of day last January. (Not to mention the never-to-be-worn "Alabama Sugar Bowl Champ" t-shirts!)

    So the Lady Utes, having earned their way to a championship game, would have naturally had a few shirts prepared. Followers of Utah sports have had the pleasure of cheering on gymnastics and basketball squads that have made it to that level, and football teams that have twice made it to elite bowl games.

    Of course this is a scenario unknown to BYU fans... even in 1984 the football team was not playing in anything close to a championship game. So your confusion is understandable.

  • 7 D Starters is a Strength
    July 31, 2009 6:24 p.m.

    Dick claims a strength for BYU is "Cougars return seven defensive starters"!!

    What the... where did you get your journalism degree from??? BYU!

    Forget about TCU and Utah but... is this the same defense that allowed mighty Washington, UNLV (at LES), CSU, and UofA light up the scoreboard? With 7 returning starters YES it is.

    NO WAY is this a strength for BYU, no matter how you try to spin it.

  • Anonymous
    July 31, 2009 6:34 p.m.

    RE: | 7:47 a.m. July 31, 2009
    "UCLA was a bad team last year, but nobody else put even close to 59-0 on them"

    What about the fact that last year 0-12 Washington's highest points scored last year were against:

    1. 28 points against Standford
    2. 27 points against BYU

    Nice to know that same Defense is a strength for BYU this year.

  • RE: ME
    July 31, 2009 6:39 p.m.

    ME | 11:28 a.m. July 31, 2009
    It would also irritate U fans if BYU goes 11-1 (loss to OK) and plays in a BCS game and have the claim of being the first BCS buster with a loss.

    ---------

    Yes and you can put the BCS trophy (IF you win, we all know your bowl record) next to the national title claim of being the ONLY champion to NOT to win a ranked team.

  • Defence is a Weakness
    July 31, 2009 6:56 p.m.

    BYU's defense is NOT a strength but a weakness.

    Someone tell me how returning 7 starters from a defense that let Washington, UNLV at home, CSU, UofA, TCU, and Utah score 30+ points is a strength?

    Sorry, I don't buy it. Just becasue they have experience won't make them any faster or athletic this year then last.

  • sherlok
    July 31, 2009 7:15 p.m.

    Oklahoma has too much team speed for the Cougars to contend with. It will be like a home game for them.
    Unless the Cougar defense can put a lot of pressure on their QB (not likely), it will be a long day for Mendenhall and his team. My prediction: UO: 45...
    BYU 17.

  • Re: True Weakness is
    July 31, 2009 7:19 p.m.

    I agree, you've called it just as it's going to happen. Stop bragging Brothers. This year is not going to be as good as some of you expect. 10 wins is just not going to happen.

  • @ 4:47 p.m.
    July 31, 2009 7:39 p.m.

    Don't forget also that those T-shirts the Red Rocks printed up were NEVER marketed to the fans....unlike those tens of thousands of "Quest for Perfection" t-shirts fans wore to the games, to class, to FHE, ad nauseam.

    Go zoobs.

  • Re: 3:57 p.m. & 4:10 p.m.
    July 31, 2009 7:47 p.m.

    "No. Not exactly. After a 24 point beatdown, "Harline" and "Collie" don't really have the same effect anymore. That's like saying, "The Utes are STILL kicking field goals in a snow storm at LES". Nobody cares anymore, unless you are BYU fan that is."

    Apparently they still have an effect or we wouldn't keep getting the Krueger reference from Ute fans.

    "Instead, let's tell the unvarnished truth: Paul Kruger was the second best quarterback on the field at RES that glorious day in November, right after Bryan Johnson!"

    ???

  • Ice Cream
    July 31, 2009 9:49 p.m.

    I have to be honest, I have been loving these daily breakdowns of the MWC teams. Today, when I got online to read the Y's preview, I actually thought the story titled "BYU churning for more ice cream" was about their football team.

  • Good try on the Mtn West...
    July 31, 2009 11:17 p.m.

    Because you either got smoked by a Mtn West team, or wish you were anywhere as good as the Mtn West. Go back to Boise, or Alabama, whichever it may be.

  • Let's get real on Expectations
    Aug. 1, 2009 12:43 a.m.

    Speed, Speed, Speed - Yes team speed is lacking, and at the key positions, like the secondary, the linebackers, and defensive front, size, and strength...not going to match up well against OU, or Florida State either, this fact will be exposed...but the Cougs will give it their best effort and I can't ask more than that! The team is what it is...we have good young men, working hard at playing a very difficult and hard game, where precision routes, blocking schemes, etc. all play a part in the overall success. I was so pleased to see the Cougs beat UW in Seattle last year, and for me, that made the season worthwhile! No team is going to win every game every season, year in and year out, I'm OK with that, let's beat TCU and Utah this year, and win a bowl game! I wish the team and the coaches the very best success! I'll be watching when on TV and listening on the internet, GO COUGS!!! (If I lived in Utah I buy season tickets...and enjoy every home game and atmosphere for the day! Love 'em or move on!!!)

  • Re: Defense is a weakness
    Aug. 1, 2009 1:01 a.m.

    First of all, learn how to spell "defense."

    And second of all, it's quite simple. I'll try to explain it, and I'll use short and simple phrases so that someone with your U of U education level can be sure to understand. The more players play. the BETTER they get! It's called PRACTICE. Returning starters are more likely to get better because of experience, it happens all the time. The Oregon Ducks are a perfect example. They were spanked 38-8 in the Vegas Bowl by us, and came back the next year with all the same players and became one of the top 5 offenses in the country. They just got BETTER. Make sense? Probably not to U, but it can't be explained any simpler than that.

  • Speed?
    Aug. 1, 2009 2:25 a.m.

    A bunch of Coug commenters here seem hooked on speed (?). Fine, faster BYU athletes would always be nicer. But you're all missing a key point--all the speed in the world won't do the Cougs the slightest bit of good if they aren't timing their routes, catching the ball, wrapping up the tackle, or correctly executing the blocking schemes.

    It's called EXECUTION, people. And as people who actually know their football can tell you, the team that's executing the fundamentals and putting the game plan in action will beat the team that isn't every time--even if that other team's got a bunch of 4.4 40-yard runners and you're only 4.8. Especially if the 4.4 speedsters can't get under the darn ball or cover a WR to save their lives, but your 4.8 people CAN!

    Now if the armchair QBs out there want to talk speed AND execution, fine. But lay off this crapola about speed just for speed's sake. Getting quicker is NOT the only answer to winning more football games, or even the most important.

  • Do your research
    Aug. 1, 2009 8:46 a.m.

    I wish people that post on these things actually knew the team. You guys sound really dumb to me. FIrst off the top six cornerbacks all run between 4.5 and 4.3 40 times coming in including 3 JC cornerbacks who have always done well at BYU. Secondly the offensive line lost starters but not experience there are several guys coming back with lots of playing time. Two other comments, Florida State is not the FSU of the past and very beatable at home, I would be shocked if BYU lost that game and TCU at home will be revenge game which BYU has done well in. I think some people just based things off of last year butforget this is a different team with different players and attitudes. Please do your research before you make stupid posts. I am also sick of all the comments trying to discredit the national championship, I don't see any other 1984 national championship trophies except the one in Provo so like it or not they won and have the trophy. The Utes have no trophy so lets just face reality because that is a DUMB argument, facts people are what counts

  • Oh Baloney!
    Aug. 1, 2009 8:59 a.m.

    BYU is still declaring themselves National Champs. I can't believe Presiednt Monson allows a school that supposed to represent the church be so arrogant. Pride killed the Nephites just like it will kill the Cougars in week 1. Expectations will always fall short for BYU in this era. They can't do better than the vegas bowl it just wont happen.

  • CJ3
    Aug. 1, 2009 9:58 a.m.

    Because Boise has already" been there done that," if they run the table once again they will be the "buster" over any one-loss MW team.

  • RE: Oh Baloney
    Aug. 1, 2009 11:29 a.m.

    And yet, the 1984 championship still stands... despite the apparent resentment from some parts of SLC. Apparently not from President Monson's office, though. Anyway, back to more SENSIBLE topics...

  • hhh
    Aug. 1, 2009 11:34 a.m.

    wow I'm impressed with all the football experts!

  • mike buys
    Aug. 1, 2009 4:26 p.m.

    Last year was an eye opener for all cougar fans the fact that Utah and TCU had more speed was obvious. If we don't have better speed on defense this year expect another 10 and 3 season or 9 and 4. From looking at the two deep depth chart and the lack of speed at linebacker we maybe in trouble again. I will say this for Utah and TCU they recruit speed. We may not have enough again this year. Next year with recruiting sucess we have had across the country maybe something for years to come. I am a realist I hope the rest of the cougar nation can be.

  • @ 1:01 AM
    Aug. 1, 2009 10:42 p.m.

    I'm curious, do they teach geography and social skills in preparation for college still?

    Cause not everyone in the world is from the US, and more than one nation across the pond spells "defence" with a "c."

    Just in case you were curious, "offence" is another of those words that could throw you off if you've never left the state of Utah.

  • T-shirts
    Aug. 2, 2009 8:23 a.m.

    Actually, the U women t-shirts were printed weeks before the gymnastics tourney even started (thus, no role in the championship yet), and they had no problems marketing them to the public via the news media. BYU's goal was one of character perfection, the U's was a prideful boast that they would actually be the tourney champion. Big difference!

    If you attack the Y, you must therefore bash the U.

  • @ mike buys
    Aug. 2, 2009 6:04 p.m.

    Mike, obviously, you didn't read the previous post about execution being more important than speed in football. What good's a 4.3 DB who can't cover or tackle to save his life or a 4.2 WR who runs the wrong routes or can't catch the darn ball?

    Skills and execution are more important than speed alone, Mike. Now if you want highly skilled and disciplined athletes who are ALSO fast, let's talk. THAT will improve BYU, no question. But even "slow" athletes who have their skills down and who execute the game plan can beat "fast" athletes who aren't following the game plan.

    Even the U knows that, for heck's sakes. It's what they did in the Sugar Bowl. They won because they had the better game plan, and they stuck to it like glue. NOT because they were *faster* than 'Bama--because they *played smarter.*

    As before, please everyone stop this crapola about speed ONLY for speed's sake. It's not the X-factor. EXECUTING THE GAME PLAN is.

  • regarding Romney Fuga
    Aug. 3, 2009 2:34 a.m.

    My brother served in the same mission as Fuga over in Madagascar and Romney has actually lost OVER 50 lbs, possibly upwards of 60 lbs. he may be changing positions now that he's not OL size. we'll see.