Lee is the best PF option but he is also pricy. Lopez from NJ could be a good
move and save a lot of money. The Miami deal is bad. A Ty Thomas type player can
be had for Harps contract later in the year. Big Baby does not have good wp48
nor EFF48 numbers. He is also short. The Jazz need to see how good
Koufos is. He is up to 280. If his shot has improved and if he has developed his
left hand a little he could really help.If Millsap starts, there is
a good possibility that he will average no more than 13/10 and do worse against
good teams. He should get better as time goes on and he learns moves. However, if Millsap is not putting up Boozer numbers the Jazz will need to get
a PF or a shooting SG pretty fast. Even if they have to use their
MLE or trade CJ I would like to see them get a shooting SG early in the year.
Then they can wait for the right PF and dump salary before the
Trading Booze to NY would be a mistake because we own their first round pick
next year. We wouldn't want to make New York have a better season than they
ought to have, would we?!
I know pursuing the Clippers strategic plan of trading all their super stars for
role players can be enticing but there is merit in the Jazz's strategic plan of
being patient and holding the course. Jerry always said the simple keeping the
team together was good for an additional 5 or 6 wins.
Makes a lot of sense if you are LA, POR or DEN. They already have the right
players. Keeping the team together on the Jazz makes no sense at
all. It insures the Jazz do not deal with their problems on both offense and
defense. That idea of keeping the team together was just coach PR.
It is pretty plain that the team chemistry (the primary reason for continuity)
is negative if Boozer stays. He can perform but the rest of the team won't. That
is what happened in the playoffs and in the last 10 games of the regular season.
It becomes the Boozer show and that does not win 70% of your games.
I have no problem with Boozer playing to Feb or even all season if the Jazz are
one of the top 3 teams in the West. However, I doubt if Boozer wants to be in
camp and I doubt if Sloan really wants to deal with the headaches.Boozer's contract are very valuable come Feb. A contender in the East will dig
deep and pay big for him.The Jazz could get a good player (s), a
pick and cap relief.
The most talented players don't always win championships. The best teams do.
And trading Boozer, a talented player, will make the Jazz a better team.1) Even without Boozer, we have an excellent offense. We have D-Will,
Okur, Korver, and the still-improving CJ for 3s and 20-footers; Brewer and AK47
for the dunks and layups and short shots. The bench is OK to good as well.2) Without Boozer, our defense can only get better. Look for Koufos and
Fesenko to be getting many more minutes this year, especially if Collins and
maybe Harpring aren't coming back. One good thing about paying the bigger
salaries we are to fewer team members is that Sloan will either need to use
younger players more, or give more minutes to the core players.3)
Hopefully, Boozer's absence motivates AK and moves him back inside more on
offense, where he can be a lot more effective. He's just not an outside shooter
- if Hornacek can't help him, nobody can. He should just give up on taking
3s.Didn't think I'd ever say it, but losing Boozer will be good for
I agree 100%. I'm amazed no one in the media seems to have brought up this
point. New York is on the brink of being a VERY bad team next year; adding
Boozer to their roster would virtually guarantee the Knicks make the playoffs,
even with Boozer only playing two-thirds of the season as he usually does.
Leave it to the "Cheap" Jazz to trade someone that might actually get you a
player and not get anything in return.... No, don't get any player that can help
you, get "CAP" help... This is how you wind a championship for sure.... What a
freaking joke these guys are!
To the best players. We don't have them so I would say best this season 5th seed
in the playoffs with just going on what we have right now.
The Jazz have alot of time now to move Boozer. The luxury tax doesn't come into
play until the end of the season, and you can always depend on other team
injuries, and performaces to get serious just before the trade deadline Feb 15,
2010. I believe the Jazz know exactly what they are doing, and now that Milsap
is on board for a terrific price things will play out fine. After all after Paul
gets his bonus for the past 2 years his contract is only 6 plus mil per year
which is a steal. Go Jazz.
I don't think any of the other teams want him. Seems as though he comes across
as undependable and over extends his welcome on the injury scene.
We aren't going to move Boozer anytime soon! Kevin O'Connor is creating a
perfect storm that will tear the Jazz apart. At the moment the majority of the
teams are proposing unacceptable trades in hopes of stealing Booozer. They
believe the Jazz will breakdown with panic as the season nears and will cave.
Guess what they won't! We will begin the season with a disgruntled Boozer who
has been told he is not apart of the future plans and will have to face the
flame from the media and fans about opting out. He will destroy any existing
unity in the locker room and tear the team apart. My guess is that we won't
move him until the All Star Break. We should be hovering around .500 by then
and in complete disarray. Way to go KOC and GM. Another job well done on
managing the team.
Milsap's agent changed his tune in so little time. A week ago he was dissing the
Jazz for being disrespectful and saying how Milsap was happy to be leaving. Not
this week...guess it all depends on who's signing the checks. Honestly though,
the agent of Milsap's that was quoted in this article (the one that's not his
uncle) said some of the dumbest things the last couple of weeks. Paul needs to
send him packing.And on the trade front, just send him to the Bulls
for Tyrus Thomas. I don't think they are going to find any other deal by waiting
it out any better then this one. In Thomas we get a young, athletic talent to
develop and save a ton of money also.
enough with all the bashing,boycotts and other stupidity,they matched
Millsap,which is what most real Jazz fans wanted,good grief,give em a break,no
matter what the front office does some of you cry and moan,lets give it a
Re: Chicken Little ... er TicketHolderDon't let your vivid
imagination run away with you. If the Jazz start the season with Boozer, Boozer
knows he'll have to be on his best behaviour and play hard or he won't get the
big contract he wants at the end of the season. My worry is that the Jazz will
be too good and then everyone will be wanting the Jazz to keep him and not get
anything in return.
the fans are getting what they want. the jazz should have done everything
possible to keep boozer long term and let millsap go. I think jazz ownership
reacted to the fans on this and kept millsap. This whole mess will show the
jazz made a big mistake with boozer.
Hanging on to Boozer wouldn't be the end of the world. He's in the final year
of his current contract, which means he'll be on his best behaviour, do his best
to stay healthy, and play his hardest ball this year. We've seen how
self-serving he is. I think Boozer is out to get his, and to "get his", he will
need to be a model citizen in the locker room, too, even if he's faking it. Any
let down in ANY of those areas I've mentioned, and he sees his paycheck for
coming years drop dramatically. I say hang on to Booze for a few months, and
ride out the risk that he'll show us his best stuff, then we can get someone
decent for him in return
how smart some people think they are about somebody elses business. As a fan,
you're entitled to your opinion and the DMN has given you a forum to spew it
forth unabashed. However ...I don't see the Miller Group executives
breaking down your doors to hire you as their next GM. So, check your 'I
absolutely know what's best' attitude at the door and remember ... the next time
you get your 4-figure paycheck ... you're not in the same league as the Millers
or KOC. You have an opinion, and you're welcome to share it but it's only your
opinion ... no matter how valuable or correct you think it is.
Do a trade to Detroit for Rip Hamilton, holly crap everybody knows that the Jazz
want boozer in a different uniform, and things aint working out for Rip in
Detorit. Its not rocket science for heck sakes, it also works on ESPN's Trade
Machine I mean heck do it if will improve you chances at winning a title. Then
sign Big Baby Davis to a contract, Koufus still needs to develop, and can
anybody tell me where Almond went? He would be beter than Kirlenko in the
OK, here is my prediction (nightmare): Boozer does not get traded before
February, plays his heart out and says all the right things to up his value,
Jazz fans fall back in love with him again and cry the blues when he leaves.
Fickle are we! I just hope the chemistry in the locker room will be OK, no
matter what transpires. Go Jazzboys!!
Rip Hamilton is the trade of all trades. Then you slide AK to his "true" power
forward position like he plays in Europe as a backup to Millsap.
The last 6 weeks of the season melt down we all blame on boozer, the truth is
that both he and AK were not 100% when they came back from their injuries, they
should have been coming off the bench and Sloan should have continued to start
Milsap. When they told Milsap that boozer is the man and he is 2nd hand garbage
he played like it. I think it is Sloan's fault the team's chemestry went to pot
at the end of the season. I know he is a great coach but at the end of last
year he struggled. The funny thing was that everyone was happy with
the team through most of the year except for their road games but at the end
they simple feel apart. All Sloan could do was moan about the team's toughness.
Boozer better put up, or shut up by February. That is all that matters. Trades
don't mean anything until then, so why is everyone freaking out?
I am sick of the media talking about the same thing over and over. When will it
finally happen. By the time it does the fans wont care anymore. Thanks stupid
The Jazz are trying to get out of luxury tax hell, not extend it for years to
come. A Boozer for Hamilton trade is insane!
Do the Jazz really want to wait on getting rid of Booz. The longer a cancer
isallowed to go with out treatment the worse it gets. Allowing the cancerous
tumor(booz) to even enter the locker room is highly questionable.Everone
is worrying about NY playing itself out of the lottery picks. Come on folks in
the Jazz system no first rounder gets ptpt in the first year.Who is the last 1st
rounder to get 25 or more minutes per game all season long ,with the Jazz? How
many 1st round picks have even stayed with the Jazz longer than 3 years? How
many 1st orund picks are playing for other teams?Too much emphasis
on the possible lottery pick. We need quality player now for the next 3 years,
to be competitive.Frank are you feeling OK? The Jazz and KOC need
some guidance. Scotty is doing well either.Time to wheel and deal. Before it's
To: Let's Be Honest - Compared to the rants of so-called knowledgable BB (Jazz)
fans, your comments are insightful and thus interesting (@ least to those that
can see & reason).There may be bigger Jerry Sloan fans than me, I don't
know ... except that when Jerry leaves, I'm gone too.That said, I agree
with your assessment of the last 6 wks ... with the addition of what Jerry said
himself about using Ronnie Price.I also agree with the comments of "It's
Amazing".Are you the same person ?
I would trade Boozer for a bag of moldy basketballs. Hes a injury prone weakling
with no desire to win. Please bring in David Lee, Tyrus Thomas or a blind mute.
Boozer can go milk some other team for millions of dollars this time.
Those of you that leave when Jerry Leaves, I say "thank you" that will make it
much easier to have a team, that actually can be one better representing the
STate and nationwide fans without the worry of public opinion. Such as Korver
is good looking and the girls love him, Okur hits a few outside shots a game but
better defense is played in Adult leagues than what the Jazz plays.To have the audacity to come back with this same roster is what I predicted
and what happened due to the ESPN report and fans that were "afraid" Of any
change. I do not call losing Knight and Collins for Maynor and Sutton
change.O Connor could have done so much by now. He is not alone New
Orleans, Phoenix has done little either. I do not mind Paul so much being
resigned, however, he will need a good backup. There Thomas or Glen Davis could
have figured or Haslem. That was not good enough for many. Signing
Okur to 2 more years was not needed. See how he does this year. The more you
committ the less will be available $ wise in 2010
Want 15 minutes a game of defense?Shot blocking? A player that Shaq admiited was
one of his toughest foes? And cheap? Call Tag! Since Mark Eaton's great career,
no other center has offered the same defense as Tag. Despite humilation from
Sloan Tag tried to play on. Sloan treated tag as an unwanted slave. He was
brutal in his unwarranted attacks much to the demise of more successful seasons.
Had Tag been treated better his performance would have been even better than his
stats show. If Collins had been treated in a like manner do you think he would
be as quiet as he is? Oh wait Collins never played cause he couldnt.Go ahead Tag bashers. The fact is he was the last defensive presence the Jazz
had at center.And if it were not the fact that Jerry made sure Malone got stats
for rebounding Tag's numbers would have been even larger.Hard to get rebounds
when you have to play above the foul line.
This current roster will make the playoffs. It will be in a 3 way battle with
Denver and Portland. If it would go 21-20 or so on road, it could be a a top 4
seed and a chance to win 55 games.I am happy with all that.
However, if this team could have at least improved the interior defense and help
defense, mostly fault of Boozer and Okur than with the rest of the team mostly,
I would have felt a lot more confident we could be a serious title contender.
I have unlike many of you more aspirations for my sports team than
making the playoffs and going out early.For many that is
sufficient. They blame small market.That is the main reason this
comes off bashing and boycott like my other friend here on this post states.
Management thinks this is fine, they are doing a great job.If any of you truly believe Paul Milsap can be a main go to go power forward
and focal point of Jerry's system, You will be disappointed. He might get 15/10
will not demand doubles, he is short znd needs game to improve
Greg could come in right now and provide more defense than anyone on this
roster.You know the posts will come knocking us for saying this,actually Suton I feel could be pretty good more so even than Eric. I
hope he is on this final roster unless we see real improvement from FEz this
will be his last chance.
to:ToddYeah it is sad that an aged veteran like Tag would be a major
improvement for the Jazz defense. with all those youngsters nobody wants to play
the full game. Just my points. Sadly Ak is being treated the same way, as of
late. If he goes elsewhere he will be an allstar. Is it against the rules to
play white guys who want to be part of the offense as well?
Are you freakin crazy fall back in love with him? Have you been reading how many
people in Utah can't stand this guy. Let's face it we never loved him and he
will go down as the most hated player in Jazz history. Good ridance your
pathetic defense will be easy to replace.
How many of you malcontents are there really?? It's the same ones of you that
continually supply these blogs with all manners of vitriol, writing in time
after time after time. If we dropped all the multiple posts by each of you, you
probably don't add up to two hundred. Which makes you a distinct minority!!
I know it is not in the Sloan system, but over that past 10 years what have
championship teams had? An above average or star SG, (Not to sure about Miami's
roster though...anyway. What I am getting at is Boozer for Rip Hamilton.
Brewer is average, he will get a bit better, but imagine him backing up Rip. As
for the 4 spot. We have a great 4 spot player on our roster, he makes 16
million next year. dollar for dollar he isn't worth it, but AK and Millsap
fighting for the starting 4 spot isn't a bad idea. Okur's style makes him a
possibility at the 4. Koufus and fes at the 5. We may have "shifted our talent
around, but over all I think our D would increase well enough. The only problem
is that I see a great team, but not a championship ream. With all
these trade rumors this is really the only one that would better the clubs
talent. Its a power shift on the starting 5.
I see Milsap getting 14/10 this next year. People are griping that it is still
down grading from boozer or that he isn't worth the money we will be paying him.
If you think about it, it is a great thing the the contract is so front loaded.
We pay him MUCH less his 2nd 3rd and 4th year. It makes Milsap happy and makes
great cap space for the Jazz.Few people average double-doubles and
they cost a lot. I like great defense. Don't compare Milsap to Boozer, compare
Milsap to his opponents and Boozer to his, there is a big difference, you don't
see PF like Villanueva having 35/12 night against Milsap night in and night out.
Hey, Carlos, why don't you go where you are appreciated, play in an environment
that is more relaxed and perform like we know you can. Us Alaskans are always
backing you up and, we hope you make the right decision.Who ever gets you
will appreciate the points you put up and the rebounds you retrieve.One
note; I hope you decide on a West team where you belong.
Boozer was a huge part of the Jazz team that went to the Western Conference
Finals. He's a great player, but he is always hurt and his defensive liabilities
show playing next to Okur. He'd be a great 4 next to a shot blocker, but I'd
rather have Okur at the 5 so I'm not devistated that he's leaving.I
hope the Jazz look for cap relieve first and foremost - Koufos will be a fine
backup to Millsap and provide length against taller teams i.e. Lakers. Plus, the
Jazz can get a younger prospect in the draft next year. Big Baby is not the
answer and will be too expensive.Finally, Almond is playing for the
Knicks in their summer league and has a sweet dunk clip on NBA.com
lot of good comments out there. The way I see it Milsap is a better defender
but worse rebounder and scorer, however Jazz have a ton of offensive power what
they lack is defense. Depending on how well Koufos and Fesenko play this year I
doubt we will see much of a drop in performance. The benefit is this will put
them in position to get a decent shooting guard of small forward in a couple of
years which might put the up there in the upper echelon.
I appreciate Carlos' game! It was pretty clear that he was out of
sync when he came back after last season's surgery, but hey, so was the entire
team with all 400 different lineups they had to field.The effort was
there (see the playoff numbers people), but running into a determined Laker team
was just too much with no one hitting the side of the barn while Memo's back
acted up."Bye Boozer," the Jazz O is no better than the bottom of
the top 1/3 of the league without Booz. With him it was 3rd and 1st, the last 2
seasons.You NAILED it Re: Re: Annie!
What makes you think boozer would help NY win any more games?Boozer
did NOT make much difference in Utah,the stats from the last two
years bear that out.Did cleveland do worse without boozer? Nope.
As things stand NOW,the Jazz management are just paying A LOT
MORE,for the same result of the last two years.aren't
they wonderful!Change is imperative if the JAzz truly ever want to
win a chamionship.Sloan and system MUST go.Boozer MUST
go.AK MUST be paid a lot less, or he MUST go.OVER-valuing, OVER-PAYING, for medicocre talent bench players, supporting
players, complimnetary MUST STOP,PUt the MONEY in postions that
make a REAL differnece,like a dominant big man,and/or a
star 2-gruad, who can shoot, and is allowed to, and handlw the ball and make
things happen, (a PF can NEVER do this)other wise is just
more of the same, and at a higher cost.
Oh, the Miller Group executives try to break down my door for advice at least
once a week. Don't you worry 'bout that.
Hahaahaahah......someone said "Lopez from NJ could be a good move and save a lot
of money." That is HILARIOUS. We'll get Boozer anyway, but Brook is
on the same list as Durant at this moment....don't even THINK about it.Brook is going to be on the Nets for a long time...
I here juwan willplay for the minimum. Trade Miles and Harpring juwan can help
both positions.Many veterans are willing to play for minimum as they spent
all their millions. Now they need a new car and can't afford it.Dikembe,choclate hunder,Ewing, Maye we could get Moses Malone to come back
where he started( Utah Stars). Hey Booner can you stillknock down some shots,not
golf shots.Horny is helping but I forgot that would hurt our defense again.
Biedrins is now being shopped by Golden State, per ESPN. Can you imagine a
Biedrins / AK combo with D-Will, Okur, and Millsap! I'm not saying this should
be the starting five, but having all five on the roster would be sweet!
Let's be honest and Much to do about nothing are the same. I am also a
jerry sloan fan "small j, small s" but I can call him out when I see him
struggling. I felt at the end of the year he would slap the team around for the
amusement of the press preaching toughness and defense while giving the "no
defense boys" all the minutes. That said I thought he got it right the last
quarter of the 5th lakers game. I was truly proud to be a jazz fan when I saw
that incredible effort.
Us Alaskans? I'm an Alaskan too and I want Boozer out of Utah! Maybe since no GM
wants him. Maybe he can come and play for the Alaska Dream(D-league type team)
next season! LOL
Let's just take the best deal that comes along for Booz and worst case
scenario... we have two lottery picks next year to p/u a power forward and a big
defensive center (NOT FROM EUROPE!!!).
I am a Nets fan. We need Boozer more than any other team because Yi is probably
not going to cut it. Boozer wants to come to NY area. He has a home here and
the medical care he needs for his family.However, you can forget
about getting Lopez. Lopez is more valuable than anyone on the Jazz.The
Nets are offering Simmons, who has a 11 million expiring contract. Simmons is
one of the best 3 pt. shooters. The Nets have 4 1st Rd picks for the next 2
years, some better than others. The Jazz may also be asking for CDR, a SG/SF
who has potential to be starter level.The fact that Boozer would not
be able to sign a new contract, means that any team taking him, would
effectively be "renting" for 1 year. Therefore his value is much less. This,
though is ideal for New Jersey, since they couldn't offer a long term deal until
next year anyway. The only reason the Nets aren't more involved, is
that some believe they want to "tank" the season and get a top 4 draft pick.
The Jazz will not trade with NY Knicks, because they own the Knicks 2010 1st
round pick. Why would the Jazz want to turn the Knicks into a playoff team?Miami said they were only monitoring the situation. If they get Odum,
then surely they will pass on "renting" Boozer for 1 year.Detroit is
already "set" at PF.The NJ Nets are likely destination if Nets
President Rod Thorn is willing to let their young CDR go, along with Bobby
Simmons and a first round pick (likely the Golden State 2011 pick). Jazz can
later trade that pick for a young contract.Utah is not really in a
good situation with Boozer, because no team can sign him past this year.
Anyone who thinks we are going to be a better team without one of the 5-7 20
point 10 rebound guy is ridiculous. Yeah he wanted more money- so do I, so do
you, and so does ever pro athlete.I love Paul- but he will NEVER be
the player Boozer is.The real problem is we have to get rid of Booz
because of AK's monstrous contract that gets us a whole 10 points a game.I have found in hillarious that Jazz fans have been upset with Boozer
seemingly cause he got hurt. I remember in the 90's when people would complain
about Malone- witch we would have been the Clippers.Its pro-sports.
Athletes want more money, they say dumb things sometimes, but the bottom line
is: Do the make your team better? Anyone who watched the '07 playoff run can not
deny Boozer and D-Will where why we were even competing with the likes of San
to this fall & the awkward scenario that boozer is still on the jazz team
roster. under what circumstances would that work? what would he have to do or
say to make that work - with team mates, management, media, fans? if you were a
consultant hired to help boozer through that living hell, what would you tell
The Boozer is cancer analogy is silly. If however Boozer really is cancer....
That makes KOC a snake oil salesman.
So does anybody not see the problem you have by having Boozer starting off the
season on the Jazz's roster?
A trade with New Jersey would be interesting. Thorn has had a grudge against
Sloan since their playing days. Sloan humiliated Thorn on the court.
this trade issue involving Boozer is annoying already, speculations here and
there, rumors rumors rumors.. I hope this issue will end very very soon..I'm
tired of reading rumors everyday regarding Boozer status
Biedrins would be SIMPLY AWESOME.....I love this guys game..He could start at 5,
Move Memo to 4, Milsap/AK at 3 (with either backing up the 4).. At 2, I really
like Korver starting (as a pure shooter its easier to get into rythem), and then
Brewer would be awesome off the bench, and Dwill...Develop Koufas /Fes with some
minutes at the 5 and this could be interesting..Price will do fine...If we have
this lineup...iTS ALL abot hustle and defense...no whining, probably let AK
start just to appease...Wow this would be some back to grass roots
Utah/SLoan hard nosed basketball,,,,I like to see more fouls, more toughness,
hell yeah keep Harpring coming at them as well...Back to the old ways...TOUGH...
Biedrens is soft....are you nuts?
he should go to the netsboozer will totally help the new jersey