Kind of interesting I suppose to see what different people have heard. But it
is all fluff until it really happens. I have a feeling the Jazz will match
Millsap's offer and then trade Boozer. I don't see how you bring that guy back
at all after his comments to the radio hosts in Chicago. I read the transcript
at the Salt Lake Tribune and he pretty much started talking as if he were a Bull
and were put in charge of recruiting Dwyane Wade.Go Jazz!!!
Udonis Haslem is only 6'8" and its doubtful he could be anything but a backup
power forward. Beasley is a possibility but he's already had off the court
issues so there are red flags that way. I like Carlos Boozer going to Miami
where his kids are and think he'll be happier there. I would like to see him
stay here for one more year. I really don't think Boozer wants to go to
Chicago, Detroit, or New York but he's willing.
I've been speculating trade ideas for weeks now, but I think I found the winner.
Bulls get BoozerRockets get AK and Brad MillerJazz get
TMac, Landry and Chicago's lottery protected 1stThe Rockets
supposedly have an offer on the table of TMac for AK. Why we don't do that, I
don't know. And you know the Rockets want a one year center to replace Yao while
he's hurt. This proposed trade frees up over $3 million for this year, and
almost $15 million for next year because we dump overpaid AK. Instead of being
in the luxury two years in a row, it's just one. Plus, Landry is like a young
Haslem and makes only $3 a year. He'd be a great backup to Millsap.
The Jazz don't want T-Mac because he might not play at all next season. If
we're going to make a trade with the Rockets, let's just send them Boozer and
get Battier and Scola. The salaries are close enough, it gets the Jazz a little
payroll relief, and then we have a hard-working power forward in Scola (Millsap
can back him up or the other way around) and the defensive stopper in Battier
we've needed for a long time (plus, he can hit the 3). Of course, I have no
idea why the Rockets would make this trade...
We are better off just keeping Boozer for one more year. We are not going to
get a better player back for him. And anyone we get back will cost us just as
much as Boozer and for more years. It's better to let him play hard for a new
contract and keep him for the year and let him walk at the end. When Boozer
wants to play, he can be pretty good.
The Rockets will not be foolish enough to send Scola and Battier to Utah for
Boozer.Besides, assuming Scola and Battier are in Utah, they will
most likely soon end up becoming tenants of Sloan's doghouse. Sloan is a
master DEMOTIVATOR among NBA coaches.
Gortat for Boozer? Orlando just inked him and they could use some
low-post offense and have all the big d-fense they need. It might put them over
the top for a championship and it might give Boozer proximity to Miami.
Rockets are in great need of a scoring threat without Artest, Yao & McGrady next
year, so it is believed they would have great interest in Boozer for that
reason. Unknown is how much they covet Scola (who always seems to dominate
against the Jazz) and Battier who everyone loves for his defense and 3 pointers.
If they would do this trade, the Jazz should jump in NOW!
It seems to me that nobody wants him or the trades would have been made. What if
we get stuck with him here nad another injury riddled season of poor attitude
develops. I just thin we're stuck with him.
Both of these players are exactly the type that Sloan likes--hard working
defenders and no nonsense.Your comments just demonstrate your blind
stupidity towards Sloan.The reason the Rockets WOULD make this trade
is they have absolutely NO SCORING on their team right now.What is
their plan to score with no McGrady and no Yao? Let me guess, throw
it into the "3-point post" and let Ariza light it up? Be serious. He is
nothing but an opportunist who totally relies on a low post presence for all his
wide open looks. The Rockets do not have any player left that even
resembles a serious scoring threat--Bozo is a perfect solution 1 year deal for
Boozer for Hinrich!
The reason we don't just keep Boozer for the year is that he walks next year and
we get nothing. I'd like to see Odom come here, give the Lakers Boozer and AK or
bad news new york likes morris almond as he scored 17 points last night, i was
so thrilled when we drafted him a couple of years back but the jazz brass didn't
like him maybe big mistake as would be funny if he helped them win a lot of
games and we would not get a good pick with new yorks draft pick. sloan is a
There's no sense in trading Boozer unless we get something decent in return. He
is in a contract year, which should extrapolate to a great season. Then, he'll
come off the books in 2010 and he'll be in a saturated free-agent market.
Boozer wants to be a Bull, and could be the primary advocate for luring 2-guard
Dwyane Wade, eh?Sounds like a perfect opportunity to nab John
Salmons in a deal, from Chicago.
"Bulls get BoozerRockets get AK and Brad MillerJazz get TMac, Landry
and Chicago's lottery protected 1st"Doesn't work for salary reasons.
Each team, if over the cap (which all 3 are in your scenario) have to take in a
similar amount of salary as they send out in a trade. Houston getting AK & Brad
Miller (combined $28 million next year) is far above Chicago taking Boozer's
$12.7 mil deal. Try using ESPN's trade machine next time.
@Hey Miles.....If we don't trade Boozer we do get something in return. We get
12.5 million off the books for next year to sign a free agent. That's a lot of
money to convince a great player to come play in Utah. Boozer is worth more to
us a Jazz player than to trade him. Plus with Korver and Harpring's money off
the books, we would have over 20 million to play with for free agents. I say
I bet he gets traded for a first round non-lottery protected draft pick and
Here's my thoughts. Trading with NewYork is a bad move because, despite how much
he's been a pain for Utah, he still can score & would help them win some games.
We have their pick this year & don't want them to win any more games. Lee is a
nice, athletic, rebounder. However, the Jazz need someone who can hit a J in
the pick'n'roll at the PF spot. Lee isn't too strong there. Same goes with any
deal they make unless they re-sign Millsap. The PF has to have a mid-range
shot. The guy who I'm interested in is Okafor. Shot blocker, decent post game &
an OK jump shot. If there was any way to grab him AND sign Millsap, I think
that would be the way to go. I believe we should either use Boozer to get a
starter or trade for a guy who will be gone next year for cap space. No sense
getting someone like Scola who would just use cap space and not be a high
Also, as far as I know we won't have Boozers full 12 million to spend on free
agents if we just keep him & play it out. You can re-sign your own players over
the cap, but to bring in an outside free agent, you have to be under the cap.
The Jazz will still have a high payroll after Booz comes off the books, they
won't be 12 million under. Right? Trading makes more sense. There will be more
"attractive" places for FA's to play next year that will have just as much, if
not more, money than the Jazz. Best idea is, Utah needs to get a starter who is
under contract in a trade for Boozer. .... or at least that's my opinion.
Iverson who I have never been a great fan is talking with the CLippers, Miami
and Memphis. I agree with the post yesterday, problem or not, why not have come
here? costs 5/.7 mid level exception. He and DWIL would be mahvelous....Of
course YET AGAINN THE ISSUE IS SLOAN AND HIS SLOANAHOLICS ALLOWING
THIS....gives you better health than Mcgrady solid 20 ppg, allows Brewer to move
to #3 now you have strengthened 2 spots, move Boyzer, sign Millsap now we have a
teamBUT O CONNOR DOES NOT THINK OF ITSTUNNING
@Miles: Even if Boozer and Harpring salaries are gone in 2010, the rest of the
contracts may still add up to the the cap (especially if they match on Millsap).
That means that if Boozer and Harpring leave, the Jazz would get NOTHING (0) in
return. Because they'd still be over the cap.What they're trying to
do is what they need to do:1) match Millsap -- the yearly average is right
where they valued him; they just have to pay more $$ up front.2) trade
Boozer this year (either this summer or during the season before the trading
deadline) while his expiring contract is valuable. If his $12mil are off the
books by the end of the season they don't count against the luxury tax. Best
bet is to be in a trade with a team that can provide a trade exception
(Portland, OKC, Miami) so they can get a $4mil guy back and cut $8 mil off the
luxury tax level.
3) trade AK _next_ year when his expiring contract is valuable. #2 and #3
together would account for $30mil saved (minus whatever they take back in those
trades -- maybe $10mil).4) trade Harpring this year to someone wanting an
expiring contract. Harp probably won't play this year anyway. The Jazz could
take back a salary up to 25% lower in trade. Could be the difference between
being above or below the cap.Saying it this way sounds easy, but you
have to find trading partners as well.
I say call "Nellie" Every 5 minutes, because he is someone with his ego that
might take Boozie or AK or CJ or other salaries off our hands, Nellie aka the
buffoon, maybe the highest ego in the league may want to slightly get away from
the losing experiment of "small ball" What is Stephen JAcksons salary? is it
way under AK?
betting like that you would lose alot of money in Vegas.The Jazz
organization have always said "money does not help win anything". They don't
want cash in deals--they want talented players.I agree with others
here--keep Bozo if you can't get something good that will help the team. A
mediocre talent that plugs the roster is not something we want. 12.5 million off the books next season is. That is a huge amount of
money--especially since the cap will be dropping again next year. As the trade
deadline looms and the fact that the cap is dropping gets more imminent more
teams will want Boozers expiring contract which will allow us to get value in
return.Have boozer shine the wheels on the bus or carry Millsaps
jock strap or something. Very appropriate I think. The other
advantage is that Boozer will not get as much next season in his deal if he has
to play it out here this season without his extension--because the cap is
dropping and there is less to spend with the CBA negotiations not far off.I say give Boozer a little different kind of "payback".
Iversongreat idea--simply mahvelous.Exhibit ADenverHe really helped them out alot...oh wait, he only helped
them out when THEY GOT HIM OFF THE TEAM VIA TRADE!!Never mind.
Younger cheaper players who have a lot of talent and up side who are ready to
step into a starting role. There will be a lot of teams dumping some very good
players because they are forced to this year and next. The last
thing the Jazz need are aging, over the hill, over paid vets (the kind Sloan
loves). Vets are okay if they can still play and are cheap. The Jazz
do not need big names. Their home attendence is very good. The Jazz need winners
and they need wise management of both players and the cap. The Jazz
need to solve the problems of poor defense, poor road games and bad back to
backs this year and next. That means looking at every player and what they
contribute to creating and solving the problems.The Jazz then need
to replace the dead wood and get players who will play defense and on the road
without losing offensive efficiency. This is not just a player
problem. There needs to be changes in the coaches and in the way the Jazz do
@Bobby......Who says we have to sign Millsap? He is not a game changer. We can
let him walk this year, keep Boozer for the year with AK as his backup. Then
next year with the money we have saved, we will be over 25 million under luxury
tax. Great place to be with the talent that will be available. But if we trade
Boozer we will take back contracts equal to his value and if we resign Millsap
we will have that to deal with for the next 4 years. Let Millsap go....Keep
I am desperate to get better, that is not worse idea than getting an injured
Mcgrady. In a perfect world would i want Iverson? NOOOOOLAMAR
ODOM....NOW HAVING WATCH THIS GUY ALMOST EVERY NIGHT WOW THAT WOULD BE A GREAT
GREAT ACQUISITION. I WOULD LOVE THAT ONE AND HE IS 6'10
"...aging, over the hill, overpaid vets (the kind sloan loves)".Yes
our roster is full of them...oh wait..not its not..we have Harpring as the only
possible person who could fit that description. Also, if what you
say is true then Sloan would have likely re-signed Collins for this season but
he didn't.We have a bunch of young guys on this team. Some would
say in fact too many young players without any veteran leadership. That is why
we can't/don't win on the road or win back to backs as someone else already
discussed.Sloan haters never let the FACTS or TRUTH get in the way
of them trying to make their completely FALSE anecdotal points though.You Sloan haters look dumber and more incompetent every time you post this
actually your post does the opposite it makes the Sloan haters look better by
the daylet me guess "sloanaholic"?
Please don't trade Booz to the Knicks! Not only do we get less than his value
back, but we get hit because we absolutely hand over more wins to the Knicks
this year, thus getting a worse pick from them next draft.Make no
mistake, Boozer WILL improve a team as bad as the Knicks! Even WITH his
A "Sloan hater."When I was 19 and didn't know any better.
We don't need more players to fit sloans system.we need better
players and a NEW system,you know, a sustem that championship teams
use.not one that has failed for 22 years to win a championship even
with 2 of the greatest ever in the prime positions.All
sloan's system does is benefit the jazz financially, by winning enough to keep
the fans buying tickets and t-shirts.millsap and boozer just
perpetuate the system.It's time for a change.
Boozer is a good fit for d'antoni who doesn't really care about defense..
Doesn't mean the Knicks have someone we'd want on the Jazz. I think our dead
last consideration should be finding a fit that makes Carlos happy. His $12.5
million will keep him warm at night.. And watch the NY press nad fans turn on
him.. If he thinks the SLC people are harsh..just wait
Too much blood in the water right now... Panicked GM's and Owners are bottom
fishing and anxious to dump salaries without taking on new expenses. Best
market for Carlos will emerge around All Star Game when a team is looking to
fill an injury gap or make a run for high playoff position. Better than
bringing a Jonah on board for the season. At least Carlos is the devil we
know... He'll likely just get a hangnail on the first week of the season and
play intermittently 'til he's traded midwinter.
I haven't heard a thing about Sloan leaving so I don't see how that is a valid
point. Sloan is the coach, & since that isn't changing we need to have players
that fit into his system. BTW, I don't understand whinning about winning every
year. 2 or 3 bad years in a row for the Jazz could spell disaster & the team
leaving town. I want a title as much as anyone, and I don't think the Jazz
aren't trying, but they can't afford to have a 5 year re-builing plan. Jazz
fans tend to be "bandwagon jumpers" in many cases & would bail if we aren't
winning.However, if/when Sloan does leave, then we can talk about
I'm a bit surprised that it is taking the Jazz this long to come up with a deal.
Time is ticking, and if they want Millsap then they only have a few more days
until they have to match his offer sheet. Boozer is, in my opinion, a great fit
for those teams who are hoping to sign one of those big names in next year's big
FA class since his contract is up at the end of the year. Who knows, he might
be a great fit and get an extension.
I think its funny the Knicks think by attracting a star player will help bring
others aboard. News Flash people it didnt work before. It did but the Knicks
stunk up the league. Stefon Marbury, Steve Francis, Zach Randolph, Jamal
Crawford ring a bell? Do you actually think Lebron James will sign with the
Knicks? He would like to go to a bigger market and I think he would fit best as
a Los Angeles Clipper. I am sure he being there will bring out the best in the
guys they have there. I would love to see him come to Detroit but thats not
going to happen. But Boozer to Detroit I can see that. I think Tayshaun and Rip
will stay Maxielle will be the main pawn as well as maybe Washington and 2
second round picks. Thats my prediction. The Jazz knows he is gone after next
year so its better to get a pebble and hope it turns into Gold. You never know
with Max and Washington. They are young and unproven.