is moving when the Jazz get the right offer. It will not hurt anything to play
him up to Feb. If the Jazz are a top 3 team in the West they may even want to
consider keeping him for the rest of the year. I think it is best to
let Millsap go. He is not the ideal PF for the Jazz for the next 4 years and is
very expensive this first year. That hurts efforts to improve the team in other
areas by trading Boozer. By keeping Millsap the Jazz over pay again.
They pay tax to rivals. They lose the chance to get the right combination of
players for a championship. Sloan will insist on playing Millsap for the next 4
years which will insure no ring in the next 4 years. He and Okur together are
weaker on offense than Okur and Boozer and they are not much better on defense.
The Jazz will be a sieve for the next 4 years. Millsap's back up
numbers can be easily replaced for cheap. The Jazz have time to replace Boozer.
Neither Boozer nor Millsap are the right answer at PF. Lee might be.
Boozer a leader? Now that's funny stuff.
tired of this story. Just move him already. He's obviously already emotionally
gone anyways. And I don't even care if we keep Millsap anymore. If I were
owner, I would do whatever DWill wanted me to do.
I really do want a trade for the Jazz, Evans from the bulls seems promising. But
I am thinking the best thing to do is keep him for this next season, he will
have no choice but to work his butt off and play well in order to get traded,
then when his stock goes up we can make a great trade that will make fans in
utah happy. Chris Bosh is one that comes to mind, or josh smith, if boozer has a
good year we could trade straight up for a player of bosh or smiths caliber.
just an idea.
what did you say Boozer "they(Bulls organization) are very professional there"?
will you look in the mirror first before you said that.. Boozer you've been in
two teams in your career, what happens? the fans hated you in those two teams,
now you are talking professionalism?
Great point, what does Dwill think. He has been quiet. He is the real leader,
and person the Jazz need to build around
I agree with you "Everyone Knows Boozer". Millsap is not a cornerstone PF.
However, I think his contract is a great value giving us the opportunity to
pursue a guy like David Lee using Boozer's contract. Regardless, a front court
of Okur and Millsap is adequate if we could get more help at SG or SF. We also
have to find a way to dump AK since his contract kept us from taking our roster
to the next level while we had Booz.
"Great organization, top-notch from top to bottom," Boozer, speaking to WMVP,
said of the Bulls. "They do things very professionally there.Right?!? I recall they were real professional to break up a championship team
when Jordan was there.
According to some notes, DWILL wants Millsap in the team, i think he is not sure
After the 1st yr Millsap will be a bargain. I think they will match and I
wouldn't be surprised that in a yr they get another PF. Maybe even a starter and
Millsap is the reserve energy Guy. The whole thing improves in 2 yrs
when A.K. comes of the books. This next two yrs are very important b/c if we
haven't fixed this by the 3rd yr we will lose Dwill.
Fire KOC and bring in Stockton to replace him.
With his history of Matador defense isn't it ironic that Snoozer would be a good
addition to the "Bulls"?
Dwill when asked if he has talked to Boozer said we have text messaged a couple
of times since the season ended. His other team mates he seems to be in contact
with him constantly including Korver, Milsap, Brewer, Price, and Miles. Not sure
about Memo and AK. But Dwill not even talking to Boozer I would think says
volumes about how the PG feels about him. I think it also goes to the point that
Boozer divided the locker room last year when he returned and I think it is hard
to play basketball when you have a guy on your team you can't stand and does not
deserve to start and yet he comes back and starts in front of Milsap. And the
way the players have talked about how bad they want Milsap back I think you can
see what caused the Locker room split. And don't kid yourself that DWill
did not have a say in asking management to ship Boozer out of here but you can't
tell the press the the PG is making some of the choices. I like that he is
active in those decisions.
I recall the Bulls blowing up the team, also. Reinsdorf (owner) and Krause (GM)
let go not only Jordan, but Pippen, and practically the entire team. Reinsdorf
wouldn't pay Pippen.The Bulls have made the postseason a grand total
of 2 times since then, I think.I'd have to think Boozer's numbers
would drop off in Chi-Town. Rose still likes to shoot more than pass.
KOC had to wait and see who would opt in/out before he could really start to
work some deals. DWILL said the same thing in his interview last Saturday.
It's nice to see some good, unbiased reporting from Buckley and the D-News. KFAN
and especially David Locke have been doing a shameful job of spinning things the
way Jazz manangement want. KFAN's bias and inability to be critical have made it
a station to be shunned.
If you get rid of one bloated contract why "O" why would you jump back into the
same situation again? It makes no sense, T-Mac is not a team player flat out and
you all seen how Houston did after he went down. If your going to throw out the
baby get rid of the water too. I also believe that signing Milsap will be a
mistake, now is the time to trim and shop. In other words get it right this
..its just Basketball. These clowns make too much money, while the rest of us
I don't understand why people are crying about Millsap being too expensive. Look
at this as a whole! We've had him for 3 years and only had to pay $790,000 a
year for his numbers! Consider this up front money a reimbursement. After the
first year, he's going to be paid what I thought he should be. $7-$8 million.
That's about the average for someone with his production. So, in a sense...
Millsap is one of the biggest bargains the Jazz have on the team. Because if the
Jazz match, we've paid him an average annual salary of about $5.5 million.That's a bargain.
I hope Chicago has room on the back row for Boozer and his street clothes.
Carlos 'I can't play with a hang nail' Boozer being a leader on a team. That
would be a nice change.
I wouldn't trade Boozer. Let him finish out the year. That way the Jazz do not
take on any other bloated contract in the trade. Boozer is more valuable to
keep than trade at this point with his expiring contract. Same with AK, Korver
and Harpring. If you trade them, you have to get a great player because you
take on the same amount of pay.
Anybody have any thoughts on the possibility of acquiring Big Baby as a back up
for Milsap. This of course assuming that Booz is gone. I saw that he should be
offered between 3-5 million by either the Pistons or Mavs. Thoughts?
he's been in the nba for a few yrs and it's obvious he did'nt realize what
expectations there actually are when you sing a contract for 12 mil and don't
ever produce. i would say that he produced for the jazz but never ever did.
obviously had himself a few decent games where he was a machine but that very
same 'machine' ended up being a recall because it is very defective. boozer came
from a prissy ssa college and only knows $$ and not actual work. millsap came
from karl malone's college and we all know what karl malone did for the jazz
while he was here.
that the Jazz are going to make a stupid, stupid move. Even if they trade
Boozer for cap relief, the Jazz are handcuffed even next year because of AK.
This year is going to be a lost cause anyway--unless you can trade Boozer for
Bosh, which won't happen--so you might as well take any trade you can get to
unload AK. Even if we got TMac, he is off the books in time for the FA class of
2010, just in time to try and lure a very, very good FA. As it stands, the Jazz
will be the same team next year as they will be this year; so get used to it.
The Jazz HAVE to trade both Boozer and AK. THEY HAVE TO.
Gortat for Boozer? Orlando just inked him and they could use some
low-post offense and have all the big d-fense they need. It might put them over
the top for a championship and it might give Boozer proximity to Miami.
Too bad you or your rep mentioned money in the press or to the fans in Utah.
You really will be Boozers backup.... all the way out of town. With that you
just fell out of favor.Paul does not have the body to play starter
PF in NBA and so when the team fails to score the necessary 90-100 points a game
it will be his fault and the fault of his contract. If I were Paul I would run
to Portland.Sloan did not seem to care when we lost last year, KOC
is being handled by the league and players, as in the tail wagging the dog. I
would say the Jazz are ready to compete...NOT!!This year we won't
even be able to compete in the D league as our bright spot there (Almond) was
picked up by Knicks. When Almond gets a hot hand he can really
score. On the Jazz we had Boozer who could really score but he is being traded.
We did however sign Ronnie Price again and he averages 3-4 points per game.
Does anyone wonder how or who is going to provide the offense?
and let me tell you about a bridge I have for sale in Brooklyn...Like many other selfish people, Boozer doesn't understand that his individual
production isn't the measure of his value to the team. Sometimes in optimizing
a part, you sub-optimize the whole.
I'd like to see him in beautiful Sacramento or maybe Memphis where he call
wallow around in street clothes and obscurity. Cleveland , today, has no
remorse that he back doored them on the way here.
Obviously you don't know anything about it. Kirilenko has 2 years on his
contract while tmac only has 1 year left. It would be nice if he played but if
he is hurt all season it doesn't really matter. It also gives our young guys a
chance to get more playing time and experience. I can't stand when people make
ignorant post like that. They are the ones that say signing Millsap is mistake.
We need to do the right thing. Why hasn't KOC traded for Bosh? If KOC could get
Bosh w/o giving up Dwill then it would take a blink of an eye to get the deal
Being "me" first is bad enough, being "all about me" is worse. Boozer is all
about Boozer. I don't even buy it when he says "What's best for my family and
me." People who are about "we" don't say "My family and me," they say, "What's
best for my family."Who in their right mind would want to be in a
foxhole with Boozer with their life on the line? He has no character. There is no "I" in team? There is no "team" in Boozer.
This guys incessant narcissistic behavior is thoroughly amazing.His
selfishness transcends even most athletes.What purpose does Boozer
announcing on the radio that "the Jazz said X and I agreed and I am going to be
traded" serve?It serves no purpose other than Boozer to force a
trade and it makes the trade more difficult because now it appears to put the
Jazz in a desperate situation.WORD OF CAUTION TO BOOZEREXHIBIT A---ANDREI KIRILENKOHe also tried to force a trade and how
did that pan out? He also went public with his wishes and how did that work out
for him?MARK MY WORDS--The Jazz have a history of not trading
players UNLESS they feel they are getting adequate value in return.How funny to bring Boozer back and sit him on the bench behind Millsap!!!He is pushing to get somewhere else so he can still "get his raise
either way" and sign his extension to take care of his family that has left
him.Boozer is such a low-life loozer.One day he will
wake up and realize his legacy was just lies and deceipt.
the Jazz could trade AK and the NY pick for Bosh or Dirk or something and then
turn around and do a sign and trade Boozer for Lee with NY....
Boozer has to go. If he stays, he will work hard to get his points at the
expense of the team. He will be divisive in the locker room, and he won't play
Defense. I would much rather have a happy Milsap who works hard and is a true
leader by example, then Boozer, who always talks about being a leader, even
though he doesn't know the first thing about leadership. Look at his history,
the guy is an aloof pretty boy who wears an Armani suit to the games more than
he does a Jazz uniform.
Let Millsap go to Portland.Thanks,A Portland Fan
I'm glad to hear that the Jazz will not just take the first low ball offer that
comes their way for Boozer. I lean towards just letting him finish out this year
if there isn't a fantastic trade opportunity. And to all you cheapos
that think Millsap is too expensive...I think you are nuts. It's not your money
anyway. He is only expensive this ONE year. After that the contract is very
reasonable. Consider this first year as back pay for the years that he has been
the lowest paid player on the team. Sound like D-Will is in
constant touch with KOC (according to a few sources). That is good. It is
important to hear what he wants and thinks is good for the team. He would know
better than all these dumb fans that are ready to throw away such a hard worker
(Millsap)because of a stupid signing bonus.This will all work out
that ole's commennt has been the best so far :)
Boozer a leader, eh? That guy is a joke.The Jazz don't want Boozer,
and Loozer doesn't want the Jazz, but the advantage is to the Jazz. If they
don't get a legit offer, they keep him and Loozer will be motivated to play well
to get a long term contract next year, so they'll benefit from his play
(hopefully).If he's a cancer in the locker room and the team, then
Sloan benches him and plays Milsap until Loozer shuts his hole and decides to
play nice. Him as a leader?!?!? Now that is funny. He's a great
example of how to take an organization's money and screw them over. We shouldn't be too surprised by his actions...just think back to what he did
MilesYou don't have to take back the same salary. The Maximum
salary the Jazz would even consider is taking 75 or 80% of the salary. The Jazz
are not going to pay 13 million in taxes this year. It is not going to happen.
Even if Boozer, Korver and Harpring all come off the books next off
season and assuming the Jazz are not going to match Millsap - The Jazz will not
have any money next off season. There is absolutely no Advantage
for keeping Boozer
KFAN is getting pretty shoddy with their reporting. Locke and all of his
anonymous sources always seem to be on the wrong side of Jazz news. Personally,
I think Locke either makes stuff up or says what the the Jazz ownership (his
boss) wants him to.
Winning an NBA championship is 40% talent, 40% team dynamics, and 20% coaching.
The Jazz advantage has always been team dynamics and to some degree coaching. I
hate to say it, but Phil Jackson is the best coach in the league because he is a
master of team dynamics. He can take a talented but sad excuse for a human being
named Kobe and turn him into a team player and leader! THAT's great coaching.So the moves the Jazz are making are not about talent. They're about
team dynamics. D-Will is an outstanding talent and an outstanding leader. He
can take us to a championship even without outstanding talent. Sloan's is a mature player's coach. He forces rookies and immature,
self-centered players to grow up or get shipped out. Who does Sloan like? Hint:
he picks maturity over raw talent every time.For great examples of
mature players with a great team dynamic, just look at D-Will, Okur, Brewer,
Korver, and Millsap. They're winners. AK-47 is the key - if he grows up
mentally, the Jazz could win it by having the best team dynamic in the NBA.
Gortat for Boozer? Gortat PPG - 3.3 RPG 3.2 APG .1 Boozer PPG
- 16.2 RPG 10.4 APG 2.1 Seems like a good trade for us.
bostonjazzfan, I am glad you are not in charge. I think we need to get rid of
boozer but don't forget what he is worth.
Hey boneheads, educate yourselves a little on how the CBA works. Gortat can't be
traded for at least 1 year by the Magic because he was a restricted free agent
that was offered a contract by another team, but matched by his old team. Same
applies currently to CJ. He can't be traded until 1 year from the time he signed
In addition, Orlando cannot trade Gortat until Dec 15th because of the rules
surrounding the match of Restricted Free Agents, and when they can trade him, if
he doesn't like the deal he can veto it until this time next year. Even if
Gortat were a good option, The salaries don't match and Orlando is WAY over the
cap so another team would need to get involved.
Boozer for Amare Stoudemire. Stoudemire has one year left as well. He's coming
off eye surgery, so Phoenix is a little nervous giving him an extension. I would
love to see D-Will, Amare and Okur on the floor together.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but there is no way that a trade for Bosh
will happen! We don't have anyone of enough value to get a deal like that done
unless we give up DWill. Like I said It just won't happen. I don't think we
really stand a chance next offseason when he's a free agent either. If you
really paid attention to what is going on in the NBA you would realize that
there a million other teams who have been dumping players for the last year and
a half to make salary room in preperation to sign Bosh. We don't have the
capabillity to keep up with those teams financially in order to get him. Not to
mention Utah is the least desireable place for players to come to. We need to
look into someone who isn't being targeted by every other team in the NBA! I
think that a guy like David West would fit in great in our offense. it would be
awesome if we could somehow trade booz and someone else for him and then let
millsap go to Portland. Just wishful thinking though.
@ Ol "With his history of Matador defense isn't it ironic that
Snoozer would be a good addition to the 'Bulls'?"No one will try to
convince you that Boozer is a good defender, but luckily for the Bulls they have
a guy who could potentially make up for his defensive shortcomings in Joakim
Noah. I think the Bulls would be very comfortable telling Booze to focus mostly
on scoring and rebounding because of what Noah offers defensively. It's a
perfect combination of bigs, one offense, one defense. That's the thing Boozer
Haters just refuse to wrap their head around. Boozer's defense is bad, but it
never helped he had someone equally as bad playing next to him in Okur. Yet,
Boozer is the one who will continually be maligned for his defense, while Jazz
fans will continue to cheer Okur for playing offense like a guard, being a
mediocre rebounder, and playing the regular "matador" defense himself. Go
Ya Right a leader always hurt on the bench!!!
I think that we should package AK and Boozer for Howard and Pietrus of Orland.
Ir would give them immediate cap space. I am sure that in this economy they
would jump on that deal.
I think it is quite funny how ya'll hate Boozer so much yet you have put up with
Sloan for so many years.
I partially agree that KFAN's coverage has been biased, but Locke does his
homework and at least trys to put on a good show. Even if the Jazz front office
makes him say things for spin control, he is still better than the alternative.
Buckley does a better job though than both radio stations.
Interested in your own show T-Buck?
Would be nice, but because gortat was signed as a restricted free agent, he cant
be traded for a year. Kind of like last year where we signed CJ and couldnt
include him in a trade after that.
rock, buckley and gennesseyThe best 3 in the business
Milsap will make an excellent starting PF. I always liked him. As for Booz, Utah
can ship him because he's good trade bait, you have a reliable fill in, and he's
costing a bunch for someone you can get cheaply in Millsap.Chicago
for Tyrus Thomas would be a good trade. Even Joakim Noah and Thomas will make
the Boozer trade happen.
not at that price! let him go. trade boozer and AK (can't we at least send AK
to europe??). Try to get someone like BOSH, Odom, Tyrus Thomas, etc to start.
how about David Lee or Big Baby as a backup (i think they'll both be cheaper
than Millsap)? i love Millsap, i just don't see him as a starter.
lock him up for about 3 years,he`s in his prime,works hard and is a credit to
the Jazz and our city,GO KORVER,GO SLC,GO SLOAN
why don`t we just trade miles straight across for kome,would give todds team
some money for 2010
idtazz 12 mpetrie ditto paul is devoted what are you talking about? agent
talks about money to the press and you want him gone? agents are payed to talk
Re: Everyone knows Boozer 12:54 AMthe Jazz " . . . can replace him
for cheap . . ."With who? You say the Jazz can, as others have
similary said. But, with whom? And how can they do it? Why hasn't it already
been done? I think the Jazz organization are experts in this area and know
what's best for their team. It is apparant to me that they are doing their
best. I don't think they want to throw money around just to be spending it,
without getting someone that would be good for the organization. When they got
Boozer, everyone was elated. Now, after some bad luck with injuries, many are
criticizing the Jazz for getting Boozer in the first place. Come on, guys, lets
give the Jazz organization a chance. They have done very well over the years -
they are trying to have a good team, stay profitable, and be competitive every
year. I don't think we can ask more for a small market team. If the taam gets
lucky, perhaps we'll win a championship one day.
I just heard from a Lakers fan here in the dirty south Boozer for Bynum. That
would be good with a draft pick thrown in the mix. PULL THE TRIGGER UTAH!
better take the Blazer's offer. Can't beat the 10 million up front. He would
be crazy not to take it...
that posted on Milsap taking the Blazer's offer, Milsap has already agreed and
signed the offer sheet from the Blazer's so maybe just maybe know what your
talking about before something dribbles out your mouth.
dont expect any fireworks guys. jazz are gonna keep boozer and millsap and see
how good they are till february comes
I'll miss Boozer and Millsap if or when they leave the Jazz for sure, but life
goes on. Perhaps the Jazz will have some special tricks up their collective
sleave for this up and coming season with the current line-up. Fingers crossed,
I's dotted and T's crossed too.
Boozer for Udonis, great back-up PF for Paul Milsap, great price.
Trade Boozer FOR Millsap!!!How cool would it be for the Jazz not to match
the Blazers offer and then turn around and trade Boozer to Portland for Millsap.
That would be the deal of the year. Mark my words, that's what they are
working on right now - or at least should be.
The Jazz Lose a Great Player in Boozer, Booz is 10 times the player Milsap will
ever be. Thank You Boozer, Your a hell of player, Jazz fans dont realise what
they have, until reality smacks em up side the head