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  • First
    June 30, 2009 10:27 a.m.

    First!!!

  • Price may or may not
    June 30, 2009 10:41 a.m.

    be able to run PHI's offense well. However, he rarely ran the Jazz offense better than Knight and Knight had serious limitations.

    The Jazz would be best served to get a veteran back up PG who can run the offense and shoot for a year. By then Maynor should be able to handle it.

    Price was 2 mill a year. This year there are some better options for that money.

  • Booz will..
    June 30, 2009 10:44 a.m.

    ...take one this opportunity to stick it to the Jazz one last time by NOT opting out.

    If he stays we are at $65 million WITHOUT OKUR and MILLSAP!! The luxury tax threshold will likely be 68 to 70 million which means we will have a difficult time signing Millsap OR OKUR.

    The only other option is to sign them all then unload some of them before the trade deadline thereby avoiding having to pay the luxury tax.

    Boozer, his big mouth, his ego, his lies about promising to opt out, his pr, are all just plagues!!

    This guy could make things difficult on this organization for the rest of this season AND SEASONS TO COME UNLESS THE JAZZ GET BOLD AND SIGN WHO THEY REALLY WANT TO KEEP AND BANK ON BEING ABLE TO UNLOAD BOOZ FOR SOME OTHER TEAM MAKING A RUN A CHAMPIONSHIP BECAUSE WE KNOW WE CAN'T AFFORD 15 TO 18 MILLION IN LUXURY TAX!!

    BIG DAY!!

    I guess there is also a sign and trade possibility.

  • Millsap
    June 30, 2009 10:46 a.m.

    Couldn't agree more with the assessment of the OKC GM on Sap. Paying $9-10M a year for a roll player is ridiculous, unless you have a complete star and are surrounding him, which the Jazz do not have.

    Please do not burden this team with another overpriced contract for a guy that is better suited off the bench.

  • Jazz Fan
    June 30, 2009 10:51 a.m.

    Boozer: PLEASE opt out!

    The real interest by teams is going to be for Millsap, and the Jazz are going to have a tough time matching offers from Detroit and Oklahoma City for him if Boozer comes back.

    Watch for a Boozer for Chris Bosh trade, though, if Boozer re-signs. Both would have contracts expiring in 2010, both would have a new team (which they both want), both would be motivated to put up great numbers, both would be better fits in their new locations - Boozer could hog the shots and the rebounds and care more about his personal numbers than wins - Bosh could play next to Millsap and provide energy and defense that Boozer is incapable of. And the best reason is that the Jazz would have a great chance to re-sign Bosh next year - Boozer is gone either way.

  • If you were making
    June 30, 2009 10:55 a.m.

    6 million a year, were already in the hall of fame, and had even a remote chance for a ring, why would you quit?

    Further, if the Jazz are just going to hand the team off to one of the assistants who will make no changes the team may be better off with the experienced Sloan at the helm.

    I am not advocating keeping Sloan. I think he has plenty of problems and is indirectly/directly responsible for a lot of the team weaknesses.

    I am just pointing out that he has no incentive to retire and collect SS. Jazz management is going to have to make a decision to manage. If they want a better team they at least have to consider the limitations of Sloan, his philosophies and system.

    They also have to seriously consider the probability that Sloan and his system are incapable of winning a ring. Further, his approach to the game is more expensive than approaches used by other successful coaches.

  • Don't overpay
    June 30, 2009 11:10 a.m.

    We can not overpay for Millsap! I've heard reports that Oklahoma City is possibly offering 5yr 65mil contract. While that might not be true, the Jazz can't match anything in that ballpark even if Booz is gone. I'm a big Millsap supporter but he deserves maybe 9mil per year at best. Remember back when Kirilinko was a hot commodity and we gave him the max deal not to lose him, well this would be on par with that. We can get same type of player in Brandon Bass for less money and probably a few others. Also, I'm not sure how much Villanueva is commanding but if Booz and Millsap get the big money, we could go after him. He's young, athletic, long and appears to be an aggressive, hard working player. He could probably play 3, 4 or maybe even 5 against certain teams. If Millsap is too expensive, I hope we let all 3 of our bigs go and completely rework our front court with some athletes, then work on getting 2's and 3's that can shoot.

  • Blauch
    June 30, 2009 11:11 a.m.

    There is not way the Jazz can keep Boozer and not go into the luxury tax - even if we don't resign Millsap. If the Jazz really planed on going into the Luxury Tax - they would have sold their draft (similar to LA) for 3 million dollars. The Jazz are not paying 2.5 million Salary plus tax for a back up rookie point guard when they could have sold it for 3 to 4 million.

    Boozer was not in the end of the Game against LA - Millsap was.

    If Boozer opts out he is going to Pistons, if he does not opt out the Jazz will trade him to the Pistons for either Oberto or Kwame Brown and 2 million cash. Brown would then be bought out from the Jazz. Either way Boozer is gone.

    The Jazz Brass made this decision at the end of the season.

    The Jazz knows they can have Millsap back for about 6 to 8 million a year. No team is going to pay Millsap more than that in these conditions.

    Okur - I hope he opts out and the Jazz let him go, but we will see

  • Anonymous
    June 30, 2009 11:18 a.m.

    Boozer do leave your are good but not great let the Jazz find somebody that really wants to play the game every night not twice a month

  • RE: If you were making
    June 30, 2009 11:20 a.m.

    I agree from Sloan's standpoint it makes sense to stay. I feel the team should move on from the Sloan era, the only problem is... WHO else would make a good coach? Personally, I'd like to see Avery Johnson coach this team. He could inspire some toughness and provide a more relavant figure for the players to learn from.

  • Coach
    June 30, 2009 11:20 a.m.

    Boozer, do us all a favor and move on. Your halfhearted style of play is a bad example of what a real winner is all about...just ask Kobe!

  • Haha ha...Villanueva...
    June 30, 2009 11:23 a.m.

    ...is not a hard working player. Unless you call tweeting at halftime of a game hard working!

  • THEeyepatch
    June 30, 2009 11:26 a.m.

    Allen Iverson, Hedo Turgolu, and Tracy McGrady are also possible free-agents. How come I haven't heard their names mentioned with the Jazz.

  • MPetrie
    June 30, 2009 11:32 a.m.

    Boozer is insane if he thinks he should start at $14 or $15 Million. He's missed 1/3 of his Utah games and is a very soft defender. Health is unpredictable and lets too many points get by him. He simply thinks he's so much better than he really is. Granted... he is a great player... but not considered "elite" and his paycheck shouldn't be considered that either.

  • Chadders
    June 30, 2009 11:36 a.m.

    Please KOC trade Boozer for Bosh. If we really go into the luxury tax, we should at least have someone that can get us the ring. Deron +AK47 +Bosh +Okur= 2010 champions, do it tomorrow!!!

  • todd from santa ana
    June 30, 2009 11:38 a.m.

    I do not see Bosh coming here. I have reported repeatedly Bryan Colangelo does not want to trade him.

    This may not be very popular but to be truthful:

    Boozer should remain here unless they can pull off a trade.

    Millsap is going to command too much-please do me a favor...When he comes back for another team., please give him a rowsing thank you and cheer for him to do well and do not boo him and always be a Millsap fan. He cannot produce on Carlos Level at this point,

    Okur I have a feeling will leave. We have enough and with 3 big guys we can rotate improve our defense and maybe the 3 headed monster can match the 17 ppg.

    We will be better off in the long run
    with the lineup for this year anyway

    G-DWIL, Brewer

    PF Snoozie, AK

    Center-Koustos (with Fez and Goran seeing time)

    , Miles, Harpring, Maynor, Korver, Krueger make up the roster. Kevin is an incredible shooter and in some matchups he can come off the bench with Kyle and the 2nd unit, with Matt, Miles, Goran or Fez-would be an improved 2nd unit,

  • TWELFTH
    June 30, 2009 11:38 a.m.

    TWELFTH!

  • optimism
    June 30, 2009 11:42 a.m.

    Here's hoping that Boozer can be traded. I see no way that he's opting out, though, because no team will sign him now for what he's making next year, and in the summer of 2010 there will be a lot more teams with cap space and better financial stability. He'll take his 12 mil and probably get at least that next yoffseason, even though he doesn't deserve it. The Jazz are a lot worse without Boozer, but then again they were without him for a lot of time he was here!

  • todd from santa ana
    June 30, 2009 11:43 a.m.

    to the eyepatch: Mcgrady is rumored not to be ready and come back till next season all star break. Yao is such a tragedy...Allen Iverson?


    You got to be kidding.. Please say you are....

  • RE: THEeyepatch
    June 30, 2009 11:45 a.m.

    You can't be serious. Iverson and Mcgrady? Please do us all a favor and never post on this board again.
    Thanks!

  • Chadders
    June 30, 2009 11:50 a.m.

    We need Okur back more than either of our PFs. He wants the most reasonable contract 10 mil per for a top 10 Center is not very much. Plus he loves being here has been an ironman for the most part and is one of our top clutch players. How many games have you been to that were won on a last second Okur shot? I've been to at least 5 I can remember. Booz has had 1, and Millsap none. Both Millsap and Booz want more than Memo and if you took the blinders off you'd realize a guy that is 6'11" is more valuable than a guy that is listed at 6'8 or 6'9. Please come back Memo! We need you more than any other potential free agents that we had last year.

  • Steve from Jersey
    June 30, 2009 11:51 a.m.

    If Boozer opts to stay with the Jazz for the upcoming season he and his expiring contract will be on the trading block all the way till the trade deadline. He will be a huge distraction for a young Jazz team that can't seem to handle distractions. On the bright side, his expiring contract should be a huge asset for trading. If the Jazz could swing a deal before the season starts for a top-notch player from a rebuilding team maybe we can even make a run at the Lakers.

  • ReTHEeyepatch
    June 30, 2009 11:55 a.m.

    The Jazz can't afford any of those players that you mentioned without being in even more trouble with the luxury tax. Plus AI is on the backside of his career, T-Mac is injury prone and is going to miss AT LEAST the first half of next season and Memo is a fairly similar player to Hedo, although probably less athletic.

  • Joking right?
    June 30, 2009 11:56 a.m.

    I hope your joking about Iverson and McGrady. 20 Million plus a year for each. Very funny mentioning them and the Jazz in the same sentence.

  • Don't Panic
    June 30, 2009 12:00 p.m.

    the Jazz management knew that things could go this way. They got 2 players in the draft and the second one has 4 yr experience, shoots very well, rebounds and defends and can play back up PF/C for .75 mill.

    The Jazz have all season to work thru the problems (opportunties). If Boozer opts in he is quit valuable in trade. If Millsap gets to expensive he is replaceable. Boozer will be the starting PF for the first 1/2 year anyway.

    Okur will resign for reasonable or he is more valuable in trade than Boozer. If he signs with a non NBA team the Jazz keep his rights but get salary cap relief.

    In the long run the Jazz need a better PF than Boozer. One that will defend and get at least 16/10.

    They also need a better C than Okur. One who can bang down low, defend and score.

    Koufos should be helpful. The Jazz have 2 years to put together a better team.

    They just need to be patient and get the right players. This is the year to deal and get better.

  • Chadders
    June 30, 2009 12:05 p.m.

    Some of you guys kill me, we need to let Okur go so we can sign either Boozer or Millsap. Please explain that to me? We lost to the Lakers mostly because of length and health so we get rid of 1 of our tallest players who has missed the least ammount of games. We can keep Okur as our PF and still get a C like Kaman or Gorot or even dare i say it 'Sheed and suddenly the Lakers don't seem so big anymore. Plus the dude likes being here and only want 10 mil per not 13 or more!!!!!! Not so tough a choice to me. What's easier to trade a big man that has great offensive skills at 10 mil or undersized PFs at 13 mil?

  • macnamara
    June 30, 2009 12:07 p.m.

    Why is it that the rest of the world wants Jazz players and Jazz fans are always looking to get rid of them?

  • Villanueva
    June 30, 2009 12:10 p.m.

    It was a dumb move to do that at halftime, but that comment is on how he plays, not what he does during halftime. Have you seen him play. If you ever want to beat the Lakers, then we'll need athletes that can move their feet and alter shots. Odom and Gasol will have a field day against any of our bigs, unless maybe we play AK on Lamar. I'm not saying Villanueva is the only answer but that type of player would be a start. We're 2 years away from being able to seriously compete at best, so why not let all three (booz,millsap,okur) go and pursue something to entice Deron to stay in the future.

  • todd from santa ana
    June 30, 2009 12:11 p.m.

    Well well dear friends guess who just got fired?

    Michael Curry at Detroit

    Interesting timing
    IS IT NOT?

    SOMETHING IS UP

  • 30seconds...GO!
    June 30, 2009 12:22 p.m.

    the way I see it is the jazz need to start spending the money! Forget the luxury tax! If this was next season, and Lebron, Wade, bosh, amare, etc were available the luxury tax would not be on anyones mind.

    If the jazz want to be contenders spend the money to do so! WE are 26the in the league when it comes to salaries, and we need to start shelling out some money...no wonder why no one wants to play in utah.

    Personally I think Boozer won't opt out...either way, we need to keep okur and Milsap...Than we can ship carlos away on a trade, and we won't get the better end of it, but our wallets will be a little fatter. I say trade him to pistons for Prince or hamilton & a draft pick or some money. We also need to shell out AK for a guy like camby or chandler.

    It will be an interesting summer, but please jazz spend some money to get some great players!

  • AK47 @ PF
    June 30, 2009 12:30 p.m.

    I think that AK will be moved back to the 4-spot where he plays best. Only one of last year's PFs will be back.

  • Brutally Honest
    June 30, 2009 12:51 p.m.

    1st - Get rid of D-Will! Build the team around Fez and Collins - that's the best way to get a Ring Baby!

    2nd - Bring Hot Rod back, he'll help the players "stop on a dime, and leave 7 cents change!" If the players hear catchy phrases like "With a gentle push and a mild arch, the old cow hide globe hits home!" They will believe in themselves and play beyond their potential!!

    3rd - Build a memorial shrine to Stockton & Malone, (oops we already did) and for every home game just show hi-lights of the good ol' years, so we can ignore the actual game!!!

    4th - Put a live mic on Sloan during the TV & Radio broadcast and in the arena; that way our children can learn "real world" phrases that will prepare them for "real life"!!!!

  • todd to brutally honest
    June 30, 2009 1:01 p.m.

    How about New Coaches?

    New Gm and strategy to win!!

    Hear the rumor Laimbeer is going to become an assistant with the Timberwolves.
    Will Sloan with encouraging support from "the sloanaholics" be able to find a way to get Mr. Collins back in here and we go with 4 centers?

    Yeah world title babyyy

  • Brutally Honest'r
    June 30, 2009 1:29 p.m.

    Bring back Booz - Please!!! We all need a good example to help us understand that if he can't play perfectly healthy, 100% - why bother??? He's only hurting the team if he "plays through the PAIN" so, that being said; if he is sore from lifting - don't play! If he wakes up in the morning and his foot is asleep - don't freakin' play! If on the way to the game someone cuts him off in traffic - well for heaven sakes, his mind won't even be in it anyway! - so for the sake of your team-mates and basketball fans everywhere - please don't play!!

  • Anonymous
    June 30, 2009 1:31 p.m.

    Free Agents

    Opt Out Player
    Turkoglu
    Varejao

    Restricted
    Millsap
    David Lee
    Marvin Williams
    Josh Childress
    Gortot
    Felton
    Sessions


    Unrestricted
    Gordon
    Marion
    Ariza
    Odom
    Artest
    Villenueva
    Andrea Miller
    Kidd
    Bibby
    Iverson
    Wallace

    These are the top Free Agents. Unless they go back to the teams they are currently signed with, the only teams that can sign them for over the cap money this season is Detroit, Memphis, OK City and I think Portland is a little under the cap. My Guess is that Millsap, Sessions, Odom, Ariza, and Marvin Williams are the only team players that return to their teams. There is going to be 5 or 6 players on that list that will go for the Mid Level Exceptions this off season.

    If either Boozer and Okur both opts out, that could mean the Jazz could get a replacement for about 6 million a year. David Lee for example.

  • todd from santa ana
    June 30, 2009 1:45 p.m.

    well well well imagine my suprise"

    rumors have it Bill Laimbeer will be offered the job per reports today in Detroit to replace Curry

    Trust me-If Laimbeer does better with the Pistons, than Sloan does for the Jazz and "his sloanaholics"

    You will hear about it.........

  • Knowwhat
    June 30, 2009 1:50 p.m.

    Quit hating on Boozer, the guy is a player. He played Cleveland and now he is playing the Jazz.

  • Dave
    June 30, 2009 1:58 p.m.

    Oh man the excitement is mounting... any minute now we will hear about it... this is better then waiting to see who the Jazz will draft

  • Anonymous
    June 30, 2009 2:26 p.m.

    Okur meet with the Jazz about an extention, but no agreement was made. My guess is that Okur wants a 5 year extension this season at 9 (current contract), with a million dollar increase every year up to 14 million for 2014.

    The Jazz are trying to get the contract down to 4 year and ending at 13 million on 2013. They are also trying to get the raise less.

    Boozer hasn't spoken to the Jazz because they have not attempted to give him an extension (Because they are going to resign Millsap). Boozer is realizing that the market is not good (Detroit said they were interested, but not at 14 to 15 million a year) I guessing Boozer does not opt out, and the Jazz trade his contract to Detroit for Kwame Brown and Cash

    Millsap is hoping to get a 10 million contract, but OKC won't offer him that much. It all depends on what Memphis offers him. I think Memphis is going to make a make an offer to either David Lee or Millsap which ever they can get cheaper.

    This is all speculation

  • I'd rather have
    June 30, 2009 2:31 p.m.

    I'd rather have Memo, Gortat and Milsap in a Jazz uniforn than Memo, Boozer and Milsap. For that matter, I'd rather have Memo and Gortat than Memo, Boozer and Milsap. More minutes for AK to play at the 4, where he fills up the stat sheet.

  • badtuffstuff
    June 30, 2009 2:33 p.m.

    Boozer will opt in. Okur will opt out. Millsap will get an offer. We will let both go. We will trade Harpring and Korver for Turkalu SP?

  • Hollywood
    June 30, 2009 2:35 p.m.

    Agree with Dave. I wish I could watch a live cam at the Jazz office to hear an announcement from O'Connor.

    I'm betting Okur opts out - and then agrees to an extension - the finishing touches are probably being applied to the deal right now.

    And Boozer, unfortunately, will opt in. Detroit doesn't want him badly enough. Boozer is a legend in his own mind. I'm going to laugh if he has to take a pay cut next season.

  • todd to above
    June 30, 2009 2:38 p.m.

    if Millsap quit, Snoozie gone I hope the Jazz find away to get more help at power forward even if cheaper variety.

    Paul does not have low post abilities as Boozer

    Defense is not eithers strengths

  • Sufud
    June 30, 2009 2:43 p.m.

    I personally would rather see the Jazz sign an unrestricted free agent from an obscure European team named Ilka von Wangenstein. He is a toe-tapper from way back who's got game!!!

  • game's run out
    June 30, 2009 2:56 p.m.

    "Quit hating on Boozer, the guy is a player. He played Cleveland and now he is playing the Jazz."

    He's not playing anyone. He'll eat crow and opt-in, then take a pay cut next year to sign with a team that's worse than the Jazz. Meanwhile the Jazz pick up one of the many great PFs in the lottery next year with their pick from the Knicks. Boozer was too clever by half this year and got burned....

  • rattler
    June 30, 2009 4:18 p.m.

    Wasn't the deadline to declare 3pm? We've heard about Boozer, where's the announcement from Memo?

  • JAZZMANIIA MAN!!!
    June 30, 2009 4:38 p.m.

    LET'S GET ON WITH IT, LET KEVIN AND GREG DO THEIR THING AND DO THEIR MATH AND TRADE, GET THE BEST FOR THE PRICE AND THE UTAH JAZZ CAN DO SOME SERIOUS WINNING THIS YEAR. I LIKE THEIR FOCUS AND YOU CAN BET THEY HAVE SOMETHING OR SOMEONE UP THEIR SLEEVES!
    BOOZER COULD STAY AND CHANGE HIS ATTITUDE AND CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE TEAM AND MAKE UTAH SHINE OR GET AN UPGRADE SOMEWHERE ELSE. THESE GUYS ARE GOOD AND CAN PULL SOMETHING OFF I TELL YOU!! Watch Out!!!

  • "Beggining" To Speculate?
    June 30, 2009 4:48 p.m.

    Heck, that's the only fun we get. I still hear rumors of Stockton, Malone or Eaton making a return to the game. If Hornacek orders a hot dog instead of a hamburger at A&W it means he's been thinking about scratching his face before making a free throw.
    I have lived in in Dallas, Houston, Indianapolis, Denver Detroit and Cleveland. There ain't no fans nowhere who can speculate like a Jazz fan. I remember Alonzo Mourning had a 2 hour layover in the SLC airport. Next day it was in the papers he was considering coming to Utahr.
    Speculate. It's what we do best.

  • disapntedboozerstaying
    June 30, 2009 4:49 p.m.

    RATS!! You mean we have to deal with another year of Boozer. What will he be injured with next year? Cutting his toe nails too short, a paper cut that could become infected. He is already severely overpaid for what he does (or doesn't do). One more year of having him sit during the regular season only to disappear during the playoffs.

  • todd from santa ana
    June 30, 2009 5:41 p.m.

    2009-2010 roster

    Actually very similar to 2008-2009

    O Connor is celebrating...This is what he wanted.

    I knew he was awful/ I am now convinced/.

  • GREAT!!!!
    June 30, 2009 6:46 p.m.

    All our guys comin back,hopefully all healthy and all in the last year of a contract,all we need to do now is dump miles and stick AK in at the 3,I LOVE IT!!!! Williams,Brewer/Korver,AK,Boozer and Memo,with Millsap,Koufos and another warm body coming off the bench,GO JAZZ!!! GO SLOAN!!! GO SLC!!!!

  • todd to 646
    June 30, 2009 9:30 p.m.

    the return of San Diego "Houdini" after a very enjoyable vacation....

    Houdini and others thought the Jazz with the same roster would be "world champines" in 2010.


    2011 maybe. Of course the roster would have to be turned over and new leadership to win the ring and leadership not starting with Phil or Tyrone