The owners should pay whatever the players demand. There is so much money in
the NBA and people actually believe when the owners cry wolf and say they are
going broke. What NBA team has ever gone broke. Even the Jazz can afford to
resign all these guys. The "luxury tax" is a huge smoke screen. Look it up,
owning an NBA team is an easy way to become super rich (assuming you can get
your hands on one). Just fork over the cash so we can have a championship team
and that is DET. They are looking for character and may bid on Millsap but it
ties up money for at least 10 days. They could also go for Lee/others. If Okur opts the Jazz can remake the entire team. He will not get 9 Mill on
the open market. Who is going to bid? The Jazz should bid on Lee. They would be
no worse off. NY will let Lee go if he is at more than 7 Mill. They are saving
cap for 2010 and may also pick up Rubio this season. They have Hill at the
moment to replace Lee. Unless DET bids on him Millsap will not get
more than the mid level exemption. Memphis is saving cash. OKC wants Blake
Griffin. They will try to get him from the Clips who are always in some kind of
trouble (sooner or later). Okur's agent is bluffing. If the Jazz
over pay, that tells you they have learned nothing and will never be champions.
This economy is bad and will stay bad. The 2010 salaries will be depressed for
everyone except the extreme elite players. Save cash and replace
whoever needs to be replaced.
opportunity to totally remake this team into a contender that plays D and wins
Championships. I like Okur. He works hard. However, the Okur/Boozer
experiment will never beat LA or SA. If Okur opts jump on the chance to remake
the team. Koufos and Suton can play C if necessary for a year. Suton
shoots better than Okur (go watch his tapes). He also tries to play D. Even if it takes 2 years to get all of the parts in place,remake the team.
The economy will be bad in 2010. The market will be soft for everyone except
James, Howard etc. If Jazz management explain that they are trying
to create a championship team the fans will support that for 2 years if the
right players are replaced. Sloan may not be coaching in 2 years.
Start rebuilding for a new system that is not outdated. Get some players who
will defend and can shoot. The Jazz have not chance of beating LA or
SA without major changes.If Boozer opts then grab Lee. Trade Lee if
he will not play D (NY does not play D). The Jazz have to lower
salary and get better.
that will support creating a championship team over 2 years. Over the next 2
years the elite teams will get stronger (LA, SA, BOS, HOU, POR, CLE, ORL, DAL)
the financially troubled teams will get weaker (MIL, MEM, PHO etc). This is the perfect time to remake the Jazz into a team into a contender that
can live under the lux tax. Right now DET is the only team who can
bid on Millsap, Okur and Boozer and they will not bid on more than one and may
not bid on any. They have lots of options and are rebuilding this year. That is
Smart as it will be harder to rebuild next year (competition). SA rebuilt this
year. The Jazz need to learn from DET and SA. Rebuild now and also
drop costs at the same time. Don't make the same mistake of over paying players
who can't win championships!Please show us you are not a dumb
organization that can't learn from it's past mistakes. The Jazz have
the opportunity to become an elite team. Jump on it. Show the fans you are
serious about winning, not just limping into the playoffs.
Wow, maybe Okur does leave. If so, the Jazz can survive. We have 3 centers
that can rotate time, maybe bring a better defensive element, if they can get to
speed on help defense, good. Fez at times has shown an ability to battle and
play one on one long as no silly fouls. I hear Suton is passable defensively.
Okur can score but goes long periods often not scoring. This will free up money
that will help maybe picking up another off guard perhaps or small forward. It
would help if more opt out. Korver I have a feeling may get some offers, will
see.Whatever brings defensive mind set to this team because there is
enough offense here to win.,The jazz could be better in the long run
Paul Millsap stepped up big this past season, but I'm not sure he's quite at the
$10M per year level at this point in his career. One thing I have no question
about is that the Jazz should match to keep him, and I think they will.Peace out from the Jazz Oracle!
13 million in the first year and going up? Same level as many time all-star
Elton Brand? Even though Millsap hasn't even been a starter in the NBA for a
full season? Wow! Someone seems to have pretty irrational expectations.
Hopefully it is only the agent and not the player. Can't believe the Jazz or
anyone else will go that high in this economy.
As much as I like Millsap, he isn't worth what Elton Brand got from Philly. He
is not a true scorer!! I'd give him between 8 and 9 million a year.Since 2010 is shaping up to be a great year for both the draft and free
agents, it might just be a good idea to dump players and salaries since the Jazz
could end up with 2 lottery picks. Keep D-Will and let all the free
agents go because even if the Jazz kept everyone, they are not beating the
Lakers with the players they have now, and really, that is the goal, to reach
the Finals: to accomplish that, the Jazz will have to go through L.A.With the right additions in a talent rich draft and free agent class, the Jazz
can completely rebuild the team in one year as did the Spurs when they drafted
They are crazy if they think he deserves as much as Elton Brand received.
Millsap is not in that realm yet.
The Jazz start to rebuild now they become either the T-wolves, Kings, or
Grizzlies. You can throw the Warriers in there as well. A very small market
that no free agent will ever come to if he has any comparable offers. The jazz
got a raw deal from Derek Fisher, if they were not so nice to him they could
have advanced a little farther. They are very close now and if they can stay
away from injuries the jazz can contend. Boozer must stay healthy and decide he
is going to defend better. Did someone say the jazz can learn from
Detroit? Really? The same organization that passed on Carmelo so the nuggets
could have him. Then they trade the nuggets Billups. Seems like they are more
interested in helping Denver than themselves.
should be to talk Sloan into not coming back this year. He is the one constant
through the whole mess of the last couple of years. He never takes the blame
but he causes the problems. He can not coach defense, and he is an egomaniac
that has a mouth like a sewer. Why has this city put up with his antics for so
long. A half way decent college coach could have won as many games as him with
as much talent as he has had. Let Phil Johnson or Jeff Hornacek get this team
motivated and not crush the spirits of te team right out of the gate. Give him
his pension, a new tractor and a blue heeler dog he can swear out all day and
let him ride off into the sunset
10 mill a year for milsap i don't so
The Jazz can't pay Millsap 10 million/yr. That would be crazy. I love his game
but he's not going to be an all star soon and probably never. I agree The Jazz
should slow play their hand and will get what they want and save money.Boozer caused this problem by being injured or the Jazz could have signed
Millsap for 4-6 million for several years.I hope Boozer opts out.
Even if he comes back it will be for less money. Mark Eaton moved faster on
defence then Snoozer.
I'm tired of all of these athletes who think of nothing but money. All of us in
the real world are struggling to make ends meet. Maybe it's time to
walk away from sports for a year to let the athletes know they need to think
about the game and not just the money. Even begining players make
more in one year than most people make in a lifetime! It's hard to imagine for
the real person what $10 million a year could even look like.I love
sports and would really miss the games, however it's getting to the point where
I can't even afford to sit in the cheap seats for myself let alone take my
kids!At least here in Utah we have some classy players that are not
in jail every other week and seem to be involved in the community.I
know I'm not looking at reality and that if we want to win a championship we
will have to pay all of our players $5 million a game EACH, but is it really
I still like the notion of trading Boozer for Rip Hamilton. Rip plays defense,
brings energy and intensity, and has an offensive game too. I
would like to be a fly on the wall when Kosta and Goran square off. Let each of
them take turns whooping up on Fezenko and then match up mano-a-mano. I hope at
least one of those two can be a role player for us soon.The Jazz
still do not have a complete 2 guard. We either get Defense (Ronnie B) or
Offense (Kyle K).
If the Milsap camp thinks that he is worth Elton Brand type number then enjoy
where ever you go Milly. Even Elton Brand is not worth the money he is getting.
Milly is a good player but not great to demand that type of money.I
smell fish!!! Okur says he is willing to take less but the negotiations are far
apart. What does he want 10 years? If the Jazz after free agency
opens do not move some people or trade to get better then we will see that the
new management(Greg) is just like the old and willing to just be average still.
There was plenty of movement out there the Jazz could have been involved in but
again no where to be seen.
Just like I said yesterday, the Jazz will pay through the nose to keep Millsap.
They pay him $10 million a year they are crazy. They could have drafted Blair
for less than a million a year for 3 years. Okur, not worth very much with his
bad back. Boozer not worth keeping period. Nor Korver. I read yesterday that
Boozer is not going to opt out because he knows he will not get any money on the
the luxury tax for the current Jazz roster. If the Jazz over pay Boozer,
Millsap, Okur or Korver they will kill the future of the team. This
group can not win a championship. They can not beat LA or SA. If they get over
paid then the Jazz can not afford to pay role players. Once in the luxury tax
the role players cost twice as much.If the Jazz pay the luxury tax
it had better be for players who can win a championship. In years past the Jazz
have over paid certain players and then could not get the additional talent they
needed to be more than a play off team. Learn from SA. SA does not
over pay Parker and Ginobli. They are both better players than anyone on the
Jazz roster. Okur, Boozer and Millsap are not players you can build an entire
team around.It makes no sense to have 3 point guards in the luxury
tax. Why have a bad 3rd point guard who can't run the team and pay them double
to sit on the bench or worse lose games when they do play. Please
change the mistakes of the past.
he is no Boozer! Wait a minute I didn't say Boozer isn't lazy and arrogant, but
he can be a animal when he is healthy and decides to play (too bad he is
selfish). And to compete with the other teams LA,Orlando,Clevland(now they have
Shack) the Jazz will have to spend money ( meaning go over the cap) to be among
the elite teams. What happens on Tues. with tell all of us fans were the
organization stands. Love the Jazz but I might have get with the Nuggets if they
decide to just sell tickets in stead of win a championship
use that money to keep Millsap and Memo
I think Millsap is awesome and I'd love to see him stay in Utah. At the same
time, he hasn't proven that he is worth $10 million/season. That is crazy. I'm
thinking a 3 year deal at around $5-6 million per year is fair. If Millsap
improves and becomes an all-star, then he will have earned the opportunity to
earn $10 million plus. Right now, it's not worth the risk. These players will
continue to be paid huge amounts of money as long as fans continue to buy
merchandise and tickets to the games. $100 for a good seat to a 2 hour ball
game is a rip off. I'll continue to attend college basketball games and just
follow the Jazz via the internet.
RE: Cut Miles:I agree, keep Memo Millsap and Korver dump miles,he`s
worthless/lazy and will never amount to anything other than a 12th man/practice
Millsap isn't an All Star and won't be. This is what happens when you let a
relative be your agent.Also, the Jazz won't have 2 lottery picks
next year. If they qualify for the lottery with their own pick, it goes to
another team (Philly I think as part of the Giricek trade). The only way they
get 2 first round picks next year is if they make the playoffs.That
is something to think about too. They could get a top 5 pick next year and have
to pay for that too.
is just as important as talent in the long run to the survival and success of a
team. There are elite teams such as BOS, LA, and CLE who break the
cap on purpose to buy the talent they need to compete for a championship now.
That requires deep pockets and very good player analysis and management but it
works. There are teams who are brilliant at cap management and
player selection/management (SA) and they win.There are teams that
destroy the franchise with bad cap management and player management(NY). There are teams that are not good at player management but do try to win
(DAL, DET, maybe DEN).There are financially poor teams (MEM, MIL,
PHO lately).There are teams that are building (OKC, POR). There are perennial also rans either due to bad cap management or player
management (SL, NO). Utah has the chance to become an elite team.
Talent is cheap this year as teams melt down and the economy stays bad. Don't
blow the future with bad cap management. Improve your player selection and
We need more defense so if Boozer doesn't opt out Trade him to the Hornets for
Tyson Chandler. They want an expiring contract... resign Okur, He Can play with
Chandler and back up the Five. If Milsap commands too much money let him go and
add an upgrade at the two. Kirlinko and Koufus could be your four and five back
ups. Try and trade Korver and Harpering for an upgrade at the Two(expiring
contracts make them more tradeable) Try and trade CJ (not likely any takers)
jazz management will always be scared of change, this is why sloan is here
I agree that the apparent price for Millsap (according to his relative/agent!)
is steep. I don't think he's worth a dime over $10 million a year. It's really
all about what the market dictates. If some team wants to swoop in and pay him
on potentially being an all-star, he could end up with an inflated contract that
might equal his level of play, to which the Jazz should let him walk.As is, he averaged almost a double double, and I think is worthy of a deal
similar to Okur's contract with the Jazz - a six year, $50 million type deal.
At the time he was signed, he seemed overpaid but in my opinion he stepped in
and earned his paycheck. I can see a similar scenario for Millsap, and he
should take that deal.
Sloan is going to insist on a 3rd PG. Save some money for a GOOD PG, one who can
run the team well and shoot. Maynor will not be able to run the team for a while
as he learns the system and adjusts to the NBA. Don't lose a bunch
of games early due to a crappy cheap back up PG. Price can't run the team well
but can shoot sometimes (I know he is a crowd favorite but he is not a PG and
loses games). Knight can't shoot. Both lost games due to weaknesses. If the Jazz are in the luxury tax they may have to cross train Brewer or CJ at
back up PG (3rd emergency option). The best reason for having AK on the second
team was that he could act as a point forward and make up for the bad back up PG
play. Get a good back up PG and start AK so the game is not lost in
the 1st Q. Can this team learn from it's past mistakes? Price is not
a good PG and he is not a good SG. Fix the problem.
a lot of flexibility. Sloan won't like it but Koufos/Suton could get by at C or
Gortat could replace Okur for cheaper. Boozer's contract could be very valuable.
The Jazz could get 2 upgrades for Boozer in this market.Use your
brain. Continuity is quicksand at this time in this market. Seize the
opportunity and make a contender. If it takes 2 years to become an
elite team it is worth it. If you can get the right players at the right price
this team can contend. If they keep the same players at the wrong price (always
done that before) the team will fall.
somehow I could see CJ being an adequate backup point. he has the athleticism
to be successful.
Milsap is no Elton Brand. Brand was a number 1 pick a big time shot blocker,
scorer and was a double double guy every year. That being said Brand when
healthy is still a level below Garnet, Duncan and the other greats. 6 years and
50 million is very generous for a guy like Milsap. He will max out his tallent
very soon and it will not be 25pts 10rbs and 2.5blk like brand in 2005. It will
be more like 16, 10 and 1 blk. His lack of tallent will get him in foul truble
and he will never carry a team out of the first round. Bottom line is Milsap
does what he does with effort which is fine in the regular season. In the
playoffs however everybody makes a big effort and milsap will be lost in the
In light of the Carter trade to Orlando it is very unlikely they will be able to
keep Turkolgu.I think that if the jazz want to win the best thing
they can do is let Korver and Milsap (Don't pay him ten mil) go in order to
create cap space for Turkolgu and Lee.Then make a deal that sends
Boozer and Miles for Bosh.New team line-upDwillBrewerHedoOkurBosh------LeeAKPriceSutonFesThis would be the best team the Jazz have
ever had. Seriously imagine that line-up. 6-10 Hedo, who can definitely play
defense, 6-10 Okur, 6-11 Bosh who is a flat out beast, Brewer who is a good
defender, Dwill who does it all, Lee is a pretty much a white Milsap, AK is a
good shot-blocker, and Suton can stretch the defense.If we want to
win this is the way to go and the crazy thing is it is possible. The Raptors
want to get rid of Bosh, Lee will probably leave the Knicks, and Hedo will
likely not get resigned.
Millsap more than the mid level exemption unless DET bids on him. In which case
the Jazz can decide to match or go after Lee. If Millsap goes to DET Boozer has
no place to go. If the Jazz can't agree on a long term contract then
work out a 2 year deal and let Millsap prove he is worth more. Whatever the Jazz do they should not pay to much to Millsap, Boozer, Okur or
Korver. None of them are indispensible. AND none of them can be used to build a
championshp. They are parts left over from a Sloan machine that
can't win a championship. Rebuilt the team for a future championship with
players who can play D and who have enough talent to beat LA, SA. We are tired
of losing to them.I like Millsap, Okur and Korver but that is no
reason to over pay them. Learn from SA. If you do not have the right
players do not over pay them and then trade them for the right players.I do not have faith in Sloan's scheme. I do not think it is capable of winning
in today's NBA.
Keeping Millsap is priority #1 over Okur, Booz, and Korver. As long as we can
keep him at below $10 million a year, he's worth it. For example, Biedrins is a
better player and a C, and he only makes $9 a year. Not many teams are able to
offer that type of money anyway (OKC, Mem and Detroit), and I see Turkoglu,
Boozer and others as better options. Another way to keep Okur and
Millsap is to trade AK. Everyone knows he's the reason we are in this mess.
Without him making so much, we might be in the running for Turkoglu or Gordon.
Memphis offered Darko's expiring and Buckner for Zach Randolph. The Clippers
turned it down. Why not trade AK for Quentin Richardson's expiring and Buckner?
It actually saves more money for Mem and they get the PF they are searching for.
Utah would save $4 million for this year and almost $14 million for next year.
Our rebuilding should be based more around trading AK than guessing
who will stay or not. We can't control where those player options will go, but
we can trade our biggest roster destroyer.
One of the better comments on this board, my man. Everyone is going on and on
about Millsap, Koufos, Loozer, etc., etc., but we're just discussing rearranging
the chairs on the Titanic there. We need a new Captain who can avoid the
dangers, not just another season of the same ol' same ol'. And Sloans act
courtside year after year is an embarrassment to his community. Anyone else in
the public eye acts like that in public, they get pilloried in the press.
I thought Korver already said on a radio show that he was opting out?
Both Millsap adn Okur agents are blowing smoke, now way either of them gets
better than a 10 mil a year offer this year.Fortunately for the Jazz
they can just watch Millsap walk into the meat grinder that is this seasons free
agent market, watch his value deteriorate because nobody has the money to sign
him, and then match whatever offer he eventually accepts. If Okur is smart he
will take any extension worth more than 35 Million because there really aren't
to many suitors out there who can or will do better than that.They
are right about him being on the same level as Lee though, the problem is Lee is
overrated, just like Matrix and Amare were when they played for D'Antoni.
point. The Jazz have lots of options and they have a fan base who will support
and fill the stadium while the team tries to put a winner together. This team over paid AK. How much is that hurting this team right now and for
the last 2 years? When will this organization learn from it's past mistakes.
Show us you know how to run an NBA franchise. This organization
should be just as capable as SA in putting together a winner. You have the
opportunity begging you. Take the steps, you may only get this chance once in a
decade or so.To paraphrase KOC. He sees some teams becoming elite
contenders and other falling back. There will be a 2 tiered NBA. He gets it. Do
the rest of the Jazz management get it? Which way are the Jazz going to go. They can't do the same thing as always without going down. The cap will
get them.Remake the team while the financial conditions favor the
owners. The fan base will support. Pay more for the same, and the
fans will know you are not serious and the cap will doom the Jazz.
Let's say Boozer, Millsap, Memo and Korver all walk. Miller will have so much
money to sign some cheaper free agents. That would leave the
following lineup:1: Dwill2: Brewer3: Miles4:
AK5: KoufusYou would still have Harpring, Fez, Maynard off
the bench. Pick up some older/cheaper veterans and play ball.Then
let's see if Jerry is as good as you all say.
Only Koufus did not start at some point during the year. So by letting them all
walk, we still have 4 starters left on the team. Fez can back up the 5 spot.
We would need to find a backup 4. Find a backup 2/3. I would rather have that
team that a bunch of overpaid, don't want to play defense whiners, always
injured like Memo and Boozer. If Millsap gets his 10 million more power to him
and Korver can go find a team that uses him correctly. Jerry can prove once and
for all that he is a hall of fame coach. AK may shock everyone at the 4
position where he belongs. Dwill can become more of a scorer like Paul is and I
am sure our defense would improve greatly. Maynor would get minutes and Fez and
Koufus could prove to us all if they are worth keeping around. Then in 2010 we
can load up cause we will have tons of money to spend.
I guess I'm one of the few who actually wants to keep the team intact...I love
this team and if they can as a whole commit to defense, than we're easily a top
contender. They need to commint to the entire season (all 82 games) and commit
to defense, and if we can do that, we'll be just fine without trades.I think with the team we have we can get it done...but if a few trades
happened, I wouldn't mind it as long as we get something back in return. I don't
want the jazz to start making trades to avoid the luxury tax, because honestly
we have one of the lowest paid teams in the league (26th to be exact) It's about
time we start spending some money. It almost feels like being a jazz
fan is like being a cubs fan or a red sox fan (before they started winning
championships)...we get extremely close, but find a way to lose it. I hope the jazz win it all this year!
Split the time at the 2 spot and PLEASE get someone at the 3 who actually plays
a complete game,which includes SCORING/REBOUNDING AND DEFENSE,I agree with the
earlier posts, miles is lazy/worthless and probably untradeable,Oak City
probably wants nothing to do with him now
WOW!!!! he can`t play the SF position worth a hoot.... now he`s gonna back up
D-will????? wow what are you thinking????
has several advantages even if he never is needed (hopefully). 1. It
will force him to improve his attack to the basket. He is really weak in that
area. 2. He will understand the plays better from the perspective of
the other players. He will become better at moving and positioning. 3. If he can handle the job he will save a lot of money. We paid almost as
much for Knight and Price as we do for CJ. 4. If there is an season
ending injury at PG, CJ can get the Jazz by until they can make a trade (like
ORL and HOU mid season).5. If he can handle the role, he is big and
can see over who is guarding him. Plus he can hit the outside shot. They can't
back off and pack the paint. I think he can pass. Can CJ dribble
well enough? Is his Bball IQ high enough? Can he make good decisions? He has got to be at least as good as Hart and Price. He certainly shoots
better than Knight.If CJ won't work maybe Brewer can?
The only time this current team plays defense is in the last 8 minutes of any
game that is close. They are fully capable of playing defense but will not play
it all game. They only turn it on when they want/need to. Unfortunately, when they do turn it on against the best teams they tend to get
beat (in a series) and on the road. They are not that good because they lack
defensive talent. Even when they turn it on they are lacking against very good
teams. Part of it may be the defensive scheme which does not work
against he triangle offense nor the inside out game that SA and many western
teams use.It is time to realize that this team is a play off team
but nothing more. Boozer can not attack the rim against LA or SA he can not
defend them. Neither can Okur. There are a lot more okay teams that they can
Boozer is the only one of our three free agent big men worth signing. The
reason is he has trade value. Very few teams wants a center like okur who plays
minimal D. Very few teams want a great bench player as their starting power
forward(Milsap). Boozer is very talented and even though he is no Garnett or
Duncan he is the best available. There is always a chance that he will decide to
show up on D and in the mean time we could move him for a guy like Bosh. We
need to focus on getting boozer to sign on the line and maybe sign Milsap if he
signs a reasonable offer sheet. Korver's 5 million dollar option will either
become an expiring contract next year or room to bring in some quality role
players this year.
What are the Jazz scared of. Miles showed very little and we signed him because
he might be good somewhere else? Same with Fes!. Have guys we let go every done
anyting? Mo Williams maybe but he is what we thought he was a 2 in a point's
body. A few guys are in the league but they haven't embarased us. Stevenson,
Pavlovic, Vaughn, Anderson, Snyder, Humphries have done very little in this
league. They certainly have made very little impact.
Let's see if anyone offers Millsap more than the mid-level exception.I'm happy to see him opt out. Boozer, too. Let them find out how much money
isn't out there right now.Millsap tailed off badly at the end of the
year. He's inconsistent, often absent on the road. Can't possibly play
starter's minutes for a whole season. Remember the knee?Get real.
Korver's interview on that radio station said pretty much nothing....LOL He
talked about the possibility of opting out, but never said he was. Honestly, he
sounded like he was 'thinking out loud' and rambling a bit, leaving everyone
unsure of what he actually meant. SOME here in Utah (DAVID JAMES) posted blog
headlines such as 'Korver Ready to Opt Out and Leave Utah', which were
irresponsible and misleading to fans who didn't actually hear the radio
interview or any of the other follow up on it (which basically concluded that
the interview didn't reveal a decision one way, or the other). Some national
outlets then picked up on blogs such as DJ's, passing on word that Korver was
ready to leave Utah. Siler of the Trib. for some reason is certain Korver will
still be here next year... he also spoke with him after the 'interview' and
Korver was genuinely surprised at the way it was interpreted... and of course,
didn't intend to start the talk that came from it.
what I'd like to see happen...Sign Millsap, Okur, Korver and Price.
Sign and trade Boozer for Hamilton. Trade Harpring and CJ to New Orleans for
Chandler and get Harp back after they buy him out. RosterPG: D-Will/Price/MaynorSG: Rip/BrewerSF: AK/Korver/HarpringPF: Millsap/KoufosC: Memo/Chandler/FesI think that is a team
that could contend. Brewer could also start at SF with AK comming off the bench
if that seemed better, but I think with Boozer out of the picture putting AK
back in the starting lineup would be a good thing.
Looking forward to having Milsap in a Jazz uniform next season. Does he deserve
more money? Of course! Just how much is not really anyone's business but the
Jazz organization! If we can keep Milsap we need to keep Korver. They run the
plays! They are both work horses!The Jazz would be crazy to let Korver
get away! Any other team will use Korver's talents to their advantage!Please
keep Korver in Utah and let him do his thing along with Milsap!
For the love, don't pay Millsap 10 million a year. He's terribly overrated by
[quote]If Boozer opts then grab Lee. Trade Lee if he will not play D (NY
does not play D).[/quote] As a Knick fan, I'll let y'all
know if the Jazz try to sign Lee, NY is going to threaten to match in order to
get the Jazz to trade them back their (NY) 2010 first round pick. Anyway, Millsap or Lee wanting anything close to Elton Brand's contract is
ridiculous. This free agent market is going to be soft due to the economy and
due to the fact that several teams that may have money aren't going to spend it
because they'll not want to add unnecessary payroll for the 2010 offseason.
Miles is a very athletic small forward. He has a good shot, and he drives to
basket hard. His defense is getting better, and remember he is very very young.
We only drafted him a few years ago, and we drafted him out of high school! CJ,
whether you love him or hate him is a very good player. I think he doesn't get
enough minutes, or enough shots. Here's some stats for cj: fg%-.459
(better than both Korver & AK) 3pt%-.352 (3rd best on team) ft%-.876
(2nd best on team) to-.89 (fewest among players over 20 minutes) pg-9.1 (averaged almost 10 points a game, not bad for a role player) Deron, Boozer, Brewer, and Okur all attempted over 800 shots last season,
where CJ only attempted 562. Both Korver and Ak shot the same amount of attmepts
and thier fg% is lower...CJ's fg% and 3pt% and ft% are one of the best on the
team, and you want to get rid of him? Remember he's only a role player...he's
not Lebron James.
I love Millsap, but if the Jazz pay more than 8 million for him they are dumb.
Let Boozer go and if he gets his asking price from someone, great. If he sees
that he is not going to get what he wants, maybe the Jazz can actually sign him
for less. Hopefully he leaves. And once more, all those people that want to
trade for Bosh, Bosh is just as soft as Boozer. It's like hitting your golf ball
in the middle of the lake with your 9 iron and then deciding to try again and
use the 9 iron again! I think with D-Will as your PG, Utah is a better free
agent destination than we think. Jazz have to get players that can play some
defense. There offensive structure and D-Will will take care of the rest. Even
when Boozer wasn't playing, Jazz could score enough to win most games, just need
to hold other teams to 96-97 points per game, not 103-104.
plays D but he is not as quick as Boozer and gets a lot of fouls. Boozer knows his primary role is offense and to play 30+ minutes, so he tries
not to draw fouls and does not try to play much D. If Millsap is the starter he
will have to be more careful on the fouls. At that point he is not as good on D
as he was as a bench player.Further, tall quick PFs can shoot over
both Boozer and Millsap. Millsap is worth a little more than Landry
(about 4 mill). However, the Jazz will have to pay 6+, beyond that is nonsense.
If Millsap wants more give him a 2 year 12-13 mill contract with the second year
as a player option. If he really produces negotiate a better longer contract.
At this point we know Boozer will play 2/3s of his games and make
1/2 of the fans mad but we know he is a top 5 PF on offense when he is healthy
and functional. The Jazz really do not know what they will get from
Millsap as a starter over 82 games.
magnus that is a good projected roster. I think that team may not win more
games but be a tougher playoff out which is what matters.' it
could win 50 though... i AGREE though on Snoozie... Millsap is a
hard working, great young man, but frankly he is a spot starter and valuable man
off the bench. Maybe healthy and last year behind him, at least Boozie can go
back to being the player he was 2 and 3 years ago. He was quicker and gave more
defensive effort. Millsap cannot adequately replace Boozer. It is reality.
Sloan makes about 6 mil a year, and he doesn't even think part of his job is to
motivate. He is about as flexible as an icesicle when it comes to utilizing his
players. Same old substituions at the same time every game, he waits until the
Jazz have blown a 20 point lead and are down 3 or 4 before calling a timeout.
Give me the chart of when to call timeout and sub in players, and I will sign on
for 1 mil a year, I will then personaly buy everyone some Zig Ziglar and Anthony
Robbins motivational CD's to listen to.
ah what an idea!!!!1 THERE YOU CAN SAVE ON SALARY CAP SLOAN AND THE "HOLICS".What is with this supposed new "house man" cuddle up to Price all of
sudden?If they drafted Maynor ah duh do you need 3 points?NOOOOO,,,How bout a backup guard to Brewer who can hit some bombs and let
Korver opt out or use Price spot and some small forward help..3 points is like carrying 3 catchers..Yeah I guess Price and Maynor could play
Actually Gunga, I think the pick is lottery protected. The Jazz make the
playoffs, the pick will go to Minnesota via Philly.Unfortunately, I
really can't see the Jazz pulling off a major trade because I can't see anybody
outside of Deron Williams that another team would want right now, and it's not
because I don't believe in the guys we have.Depending on how all the
opt-outs go, I'd like to see the Jazz make a play for Hedo Turkoglu, especially
if they come to terms with Okur. I'll be exploring that later this week on Jazz
Oracle, so y'all come!
Let 'em all go, unless we can keep Millsap for the mid-level. Get a lottery
pick next year, and spend some cash on the 2010 free-agent bonanza. Cash is
king in this economy, and it's only gonna be worse next summer. This summer
it's time to hunker down and save some cash for a rainy day.Oh, and
Paul, we love you, but please get a new agent - your uncle isn't doing you any
favors with this talk about $13M and Elton Brand comparisons. He's blowing
smoke and he's not fooling anybody. Elton Brand was a number 1 pick and has been
20/10 since his rookie season.
Mr. Simmons, we love Paul, but if you are looking for a comparable player for
Paul, look no further than Brandon Bass. To compare him to Elton Brand is
laughable, at least at this stage in his career. He'd need 10 years of 20/10
starter minutes before you can do that.
Settle down people. The Jazz aren't going to pay Millsap 10 Million per year.
It's the job of EVERY agent to talk up their player and get him the best
deal possible. If Millsap starts offers at 6-7 million he's probably going to
end up getting about 3-4 million. So obviously he's gonna start with 10 million
with hopes of getting 7-8 million. All I know is... if the Jazz
give Millsap that kind of money he's got to be the guy at PF. You can't pay a
back-up that much money. So he's got to be ready to play big time minutes and
be a clutch player. Otherwise he needs to move on and play back-up role
I'll tell you what will happen w/ Free Agency. There will be an enormous of hot
air pumped out by O'Connor.The media will do alot of speculating and
nothing will happen.... just like pretty much every year preceding this one.p.s. NBA Free Agency is near as exciting as NFL FA.