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  • Clark
    May 30, 2009 1:08 a.m.

    New Turf? How about a football team with more grit and heart?

    I'm a die-hard BYU fan, and while I was somewhat annoyed by my Utah Ute fan friends and co-workers rubbing their team's undefeated season in my face, I was even more disappointed by a BYU football team who seemed to play with the fire of a used up pipe.

  • 18 straight
    May 30, 2009 5:47 a.m.

    To Clark and other fair-weather fans, I would say that 18 straight home victories is a pretty good record. Your Utah Ute fan friends and co-workers can't make such a claim.

    BTW, Utah will be coming to the Lavell Edwards stadium this year.

  • Green Grass
    May 30, 2009 5:55 a.m.

    How many times will BYU blame the new grass for their poor execution and preparation this year?

    BYU is 2 games into a 5 or 6 game losing streak. Thankfully we play Utah State in Provo this year.

  • Watered with Tears
    May 30, 2009 5:57 a.m.

    The new grass is being watered with all the tears of BYU fans from losing to the U and then again to that high school team in the Las Vegas Bowl.

  • It will take more than new Grass
    May 30, 2009 5:58 a.m.

    It will take more than new grass to help the cougars this year.

  • Quest for Perfection
    May 30, 2009 5:59 a.m.

    Anyone know where I can get one of those fancy T-shirts?

  • Blame the Grass
    May 30, 2009 6:00 a.m.

    That must be why BYU hasn't played well since 1984. I thought BYU always blamed the refs, not the grass.

  • Grass is Softer on the Back Side
    May 30, 2009 6:04 a.m.

    Too many players were complaining of injuries after getting knocked down on their grass.

  • New Grass
    May 30, 2009 6:05 a.m.

    At least this gives us something to talk about besides what a miserable football team we have this year and what a bunch of under-achievers we had last year.

  • 1984 Grass
    May 30, 2009 6:11 a.m.

    Everybody remember when in 1984 that one player did a really long pass, and then the player caught it and ran really fast, and wow. That was a cool play. I wish it was still 1984. 25 years ago was a great time to be alive.

  • Get Ready Utes for our new Grass
    May 30, 2009 6:14 a.m.

    Get ready utes! Our new grass is ready for you. Try and beat us now on our home turf like you have the past few years! No more whooping us on our backsides on that old grass!! We are going to show you! Bronco is smiling at this new grass. You see, we will show you now!

  • Bury the Memories Under the Gras
    May 30, 2009 6:16 a.m.

    Under this new grass they buried all those bad memories of losing to the Utes.

  • UTE FAN!!!
    May 30, 2009 6:27 a.m.

    Getting a new turf????

    You are just trying to KEEP UP with the football power house 35 miles up north from you. We get a new turf and so the Y thinks they need a new one tooooooooooooooo.

    It won't make any difference in the out come of the game, we will still BEAT you!!!

    GO UTES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • MarkS
    May 30, 2009 6:30 a.m.

    Just wish the BYU marketing group had been creative and found a way to sell or give away the old sod to boosters. $10 for a square foot of the field at Cougar/LE Stadium would have brought a lot of interest, some cash to the program, and would have been a delight to many Cougar fans. Oh well, maybe they'll think of it in another 20+ years when the field is redone again...

  • Clark Kent
    May 30, 2009 6:31 a.m.

    What BYU needs is more loyal fans that remain true during ALL of the ups and downs. BYU has a more consistant football program than most teams in the entire nation, including most BCS schools and the red headed step brothers from up north.

  • Chris in Texas
    May 30, 2009 6:45 a.m.

    New grass means nothing without desire and drive. BYU needs more than new grass to win over the fans. They need a new heart, a new attitude. Where is, to put in Rocky venancular, the "eye of the tiger"? Win the MWC, a bowl game, and beat some nationally ranked teams, and then you'll see something better than just fresh green grass. I live in Texas now and I see more heart, grit, and drive in the average high school football team here than I do in the Cougars lately. Thanks, but if I want green grass, I'll go to the park.

  • Anonymous
    May 30, 2009 7:00 a.m.

    I hope it is at least 120-yards of verdant grass!

  • Amen
    May 30, 2009 7:03 a.m.

    BYU has lacked the heart to pull it off when it counts. Maybe we can learn something from the U. (See their football and baseball performance)

  • Clark?
    May 30, 2009 7:07 a.m.

    A die-hard BYU fan is committed to the core values of the program, not the W-L record. Get a clue.

  • New Turf
    May 30, 2009 7:15 a.m.

    Hey Bonco, its not the turf that wins games!

  • U gets New Turf so does the Y
    May 30, 2009 7:18 a.m.

    The U got new turf, and then BYU decided to do it too. Following the leader, the leader, the leader....

    Unfortunately the U has red on their turf, so the BYU quarterback will have a hard time deciding where to throw it: either to the red jerseys or to the ground.

  • Dave Munden
    May 30, 2009 7:21 a.m.

    One of the most impressive things I first noted when I attended the Y was how well the grounds were maintained. The field at the stadium probably is seen my more people than any other part of the BYU facility. As such, it needs to be the shining jewel of BYU. Kudos to the effort that went into making this renovation possible both those doing the work and for all those that worked behind the scene to make it possible. As a Cougar football fan, here's hoping for many more victories and many great memories unfolding on the new turf.
    Dave Munden (aka Y'zMan)
    Raleigh, North Carolina

  • He can smile now...
    May 30, 2009 7:31 a.m.


    but can he still smile in September? October? November?

    Glad that California can help to make the field prettier for Cougars --but the team may be beyond help.

    SoCalUtahFan

  • BYU FIELD
    May 30, 2009 7:43 a.m.

    Did you see the Utah field, that is first class. Come on you saw the pictures, the U new field is sharp

  • Top Ute
    May 30, 2009 7:56 a.m.

    Utah has better turf, better fans, better tailgating, better record in the Sugar Bowl, better record in the Fiestal Bowl, better coaching, better players, better... need I go on?

  • Franklin
    May 30, 2009 8:16 a.m.

    You'll play six home games in the entire season. What academic programs were sacrificed to support this outrageous cost?

  • Anonymous
    May 30, 2009 8:18 a.m.

    I know Roy Peterman. I would state that there is not a more dedicated, professional, knowledgeable person in the country watching over and nurturing a university's landscape, turf, trees, shrubs, etc. He is top notch. The stadium grass will be the best in the country knowing that Roy had a part in this work.

  • Bear Laker
    May 30, 2009 8:24 a.m.

    Ya, but look at the new turf!!!!!!

  • BONZO
    May 30, 2009 8:26 a.m.

    How do you know BYU didn't have fire in their game? Utah had a good team last year. Good for them! That doesn't mean BYU lacked fire in their game. Grow up dude!!

  • Utah County Observer
    May 30, 2009 8:36 a.m.

    A hallowed shrine? Really?

    And since when is it a mark of honor to make sure the Spring Game is only played in the hallowed shrine. It is a game, not a religion. It is a sport venue, not a sacred edifice.

  • What???
    May 30, 2009 8:38 a.m.

    What is the point?

    I hear they're installing new toilets as well, where's the coverage on that?

    Maybe we can hear the next time they repaint the press box.

    Come one, homerism is fine, but is this over the top or what!

  • AJ
    May 30, 2009 8:43 a.m.

    Exactly! Can we please burn this new turf and go back to our 6, 5 and 4 win seasons. Thanks for your insights today Clark!

  • clark
    May 30, 2009 8:43 a.m.

    what? You should be reminding your yewt friends of the several thousand dollars the yewts have given us...If you have questions about the heart of the team you should see how the players have come together this spring

  • Re: Clark
    May 30, 2009 9:07 a.m.

    Name me a team that has won all of its home games since 2006 to present?! Only two other teams in the nation have longer home winning streaks than BYU: Boise State and Oklahoma.

    Go Cougs! And quit complaining!

  • ALC
    May 30, 2009 9:21 a.m.

    Yeah, 11,11 and 10 win seasons, as well as 2 MWC titles the last three years shows we have no heart...Wow

  • Marky
    May 30, 2009 10:09 a.m.

    What's really funny is the fact that most of the posts on this article are from Ute "fans" (really just BYU haters). I just visited the SL Trib (home paper of the Utes) and found an article on UofU sports. One post. From a Ute fan. On this article, about GRASS, the Ute fans are going crazy. The infantile obsession of the Ute fans with all things BYU continues. They somehow believe that by denigrating the Y that the U somehow looks better. Pathetic.

  • Red Blood
    May 30, 2009 10:11 a.m.

    I'm a UTE fan who is happy to cheer for the Y - when they aren't playing us. But my fellow fans are embarassing my school. Stop posting stupid and arrogant remarks on articles about BYU. It lowers our class. Philadelphia fans are not held in high standards, and doing things like this is one of the reasons. Let BYU have their articles, and we'll have ours - then we'll duel it out on the field. Till then, shutup.

  • Ute Alum
    May 30, 2009 10:22 a.m.

    They have new grass at BYU? What? Wow? I always thought that coffee and alcohol were outlawed at the Y and now you tell me they have grass? This changes everything - Grass at BYU!
    What did they do with the old grass, did they have big pep rally, burn it and invite everyone to come try it out but not to inhale?

    Okay, ya ha ha. GO Utes
    New Grass paid for by your big bowl wins.

  • Anonymous
    May 30, 2009 10:34 a.m.

    So very thoughtful of the U to give byu its old grass. Oh yes, I go to football games not to watch my team win but to make sure the core values are being upheld -ha ha, sure right.

    Go Utah Go!

  • Real grass
    May 30, 2009 11:03 a.m.

    I'm so glad that artificial turf was never considered. It's great to have a local team that still wants to play on the real thing.

  • Howard S.
    May 30, 2009 11:13 a.m.

    All the new turf and first class facilities in the world will never get BYU invited to a BCS bowl game.

    I seems that the BYU quality ON the field simply is not as good as the quality OF the field.

  • One thing never changes
    May 30, 2009 11:35 a.m.

    The average IQ of Ute fans is as low as and probably lower than that of any other team in the nation

  • BYU is above the BCS
    May 30, 2009 11:49 a.m.

    Howard S. (aka-BCS lover),

    Who cares what you think, or who the BS system invites to anything! Especially when you are dead wrong about the quality of a program. BYU has been the best football program in the state of Utah for the last 30 years. They have finished in the top 25 for more than half of those years. So fact is, they are one of the best programs in the nation during that time. No one competed in a BCS bowl before BYU owned a National Championship. BYU is above the BCS!

  • Red Cal
    May 30, 2009 12:01 p.m.

    I am frustrated by some of the fans. Let BYU talk about their premier gardening (football) program. I hate to see so many Ute fans spending all of their energy tearing down BYU rather than building up Utah sports. Sometimes I think these are really BYU fans attacking their own team out of frustration. Whatever it is it makes us look like we have an inferiority complex that is not fair to the real fans!! When I talk to other Ute fans we rarely mention BYU.

  • Strange
    May 30, 2009 12:02 p.m.

    The sports news must be pretty bad when you get to the stage where your printing huge articles about the new grass in the stadium..

  • What's with these comments
    May 30, 2009 12:03 p.m.

    Thank you Red Blood. Too many trolls on here. But now I will only attribute stupid remarks to a vocal minority, instead of stereotyping a whole school over it.

  • I love BYU fans
    May 30, 2009 12:10 p.m.

    Anyone else ever notice that they only count recordssince the 70's when St. Lavell invented the forward pass?

  • Check out!
    May 30, 2009 12:11 p.m.

    Check out the difference in the number of comments about the BYU and Utah turf stories. Good or negative comments, BYU seems to always get more of the attention. Must suck to have an undefeated season and the Cougars still get most of the attention, even from UTE so-called fans.

  • Mr. Ute
    May 30, 2009 12:12 p.m.

    As a die hard Ute fan I'm jealous. It's hard but I must admit that with the new turf, not only will BYU have a better team and better coach, but probably a better field this year too.

  • RE 11:49
    May 30, 2009 12:15 p.m.

    uh...nobody competed in the BCS for 15 years AFTER BYU had their championship too. The whole thing started because Michigan and Nebraska had a shared NC in 1997. Get a clue! The BCS WAS NOT made because of BYU, the ALLIANCE was. The BCS was made for a clear cut National Champion. So, it seems as though your "BYU is above the BCS" is only said to comfort your little broken heart because BYU hasn't been there...while your hated big brothers up north have...TWICE!!

  • southern Cougar
    May 30, 2009 12:55 p.m.

    Ute fans are like the sophmore on a high school football team that catches a touchdoun pass in the fourth quarter that was already over in the third. He talks trash all the next year about how amazing he is but never scores again. Good luck with that. And by the way two years ago utes would kill to go 10-3. I think you suffer from amnesia lucky for you.

  • Why?
    May 30, 2009 1:00 p.m.

    first- why post here if you are Utah/anti-BYU fan?
    Second- Utah will get 6 maybe 7 wins this year...Coach is already prepping you for it...he's asking the media/fans not to write off last year by this years performance.

  • End Zones
    May 30, 2009 1:01 p.m.

    Go back to putting B Y U in the endzones and get rid of all the logos associated with the disasterous 1999 make-over.

  • RE
    May 30, 2009 1:03 p.m.

    Why do most of the posts have to be devoid of any intelligent comments.

    For you Ute fans why do you seem to be filled with so much Hate?

  • Cougar Fan
    May 30, 2009 1:22 p.m.

    Its so interesting that Ute fans can only talk garbage about BYU and never compliment their own team. I think Utes pay more attention to BYU than their own school. Study your own team, and talk them up. You guys were really good last year, enjoy it! I am willing to admit that. Don't waste your time tearing down your rival out of mere sporting partisanship. Thats all it is. I'll be the first one to acknowledge that the U is now good in football and is building a strong program. Just try to have the same courtesy toward others that others show you.

  • pathetic
    May 30, 2009 1:23 p.m.

    90% of these comments are pathetic, its new grass, that's great, but come on Ute fans, you are using this as a way to rag on BYU. What a bunch of pathetic losers, stop paying so much attention to everything BYU does. Get a life.

  • Gretzky
    May 30, 2009 1:58 p.m.

    the new turf has nothing to do with play it has to do with decreasing the amount of time spent repairing the sod and the labor involved to deal with the deteriorating conditions. ColoradoState has revamped their turf as well in the past if you watch the .mtn channel piece they did on CSU. it's state of the art just like a new stadium in dallas or Rio Tinto field in Sandy etc etc....it's progress...and this time the taxpayers didn't have to fork over any money...unlike the U of U upgrades...

  • GOOD FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS NOT 4
    May 30, 2009 2:23 p.m.

    All these ute fans are pathetic. They are always trying to one up BYU its sad they have little brother syndrome. The yutes are the neglected child in the family always trying to prove themselves. I never hear BYU fans compare themselves to the u. Why not? There is no need. Two good years doesnt overcome 3 decades of championship football! Understand BYU has been on the national scene since the 70's. The turf looks great and it will look great this November. Whats really going to suck is I agree its going to be tough but when and if BYU goes undefeated we wont be tasting Sugar of Tostitos it will be crystal and the National Championship! Lets just hope that after BYU beats Oklahoma, FSU, and TCU that the yutes will be ranked in the top 25 so it helps us once we destroy them. So little brother try not to go 6-6 this year so we look even better when we go undefeated! Thanks your older well liked and loved brother down South!

  • TopCougFan
    May 30, 2009 2:23 p.m.

    Say - with the old turf in place, how did the '08 Cougs ever beat up on UCLA so badly...did they just ingnore the turf and move one...and play with excitement and heart...or was there something they put into the turf to make UCLA play so poorly, way below their talent and ability? I'm just wondering if the Cougs will have the same turn management team in place this year, and pull it out for the Utes...

  • Anonymous
    May 30, 2009 2:30 p.m.

    This new turf in LES should give the Utes something to talk about this upcoming fall (seeing as they won't have much to brag about with their own team). Back to mediocrity.

  • Bronco makes me smile
    May 30, 2009 2:35 p.m.

    He talks in footnotes and riddles.

  • Jealous Ute
    May 30, 2009 2:35 p.m.

    Football was made to be played on the real stuff, not the fake carpet we Utes are made to endure at RES. Utah will still own BYU this coming November, but there is no question the better surface is in Provo and not Salt Lake. Grass beats plastic, but Utes beat Cougars. GO UTES!

  • Cougbacker
    May 30, 2009 2:40 p.m.

    wat in the world is ur problem people....the field was old and needed to be replaced...no one is saying it will make the cougs better...wow immature morons... and so what if Utah wins once every three years

  • Wow
    May 30, 2009 3:14 p.m.

    Lots of Ute trolls and whiney BYU fans in this thread.

    Personally, I am glad they reduced the crown.

  • Doon
    May 30, 2009 3:46 p.m.

    BYU has a national championship. Utah fans are trying to create their own mythical championship.... then ridicule BYU's actual concensus one. Nice.

  • Funded by Utah at the BCS
    May 30, 2009 3:52 p.m.

    The article did not mention that the funding for the new grass was from the money given to MWC Teams because the U went to a BCS bowl this year.

    Before we BYU fans bash the Utes, let us generously thank them for their contributions to our program.

  • Anonymous
    May 30, 2009 4:19 p.m.

    What, no blue grass like Boise State? I'm disappointed....

  • Anonymous
    May 30, 2009 5:39 p.m.

    RE 11:49 | 12:15 p.m. May 30, 2009

    Utah is the little brother up North, and based on these posts our little brother has a lot of growing up to do.

  • I love it......
    May 30, 2009 6:08 p.m.

    Utes banging heads with the Cougars, even over grass......LOL!!

    Cannot wait for head banging on the Football field....LOL!!

  • What???
    May 30, 2009 6:34 p.m.

    Comments have nothing to do with little brotherism or arrogance. Just pointing out the complete and utter lunacy of devoting a 2 web page long story about the glories of the new turf at LES.

    Who cares about who was successful last year and who was less successful, point of previous comment was to point out the lap dog mentality lapping up some puff piece on installing new grass in a football stadium. Pro stadiums replaced their grass regularly without having major news stories about it.

    P.S. I think they may be replacing some sidewalks up at Weber State this summer, maybe we can get the Desnews to write an article about how much better the Weber experience will be with the new, smooth sidewalks to walk upon. (see, it is ridiculous)

  • Henry Drummond
    May 30, 2009 6:42 p.m.

    I was hoping for some of that blue Smurf Turf Boise State uses. Another opportunity lost...

  • Re:southern Cougar@12:55 p.m.
    May 30, 2009 7:47 p.m.

    Here's a couple of tidbits to little help you with that Cougar amnesia.

    The Utes have beaten BYU head to head 5 of the last 7. Over the last 5, 10 and 15 years Utah has a 60% winning record over BYU.

    The Utes are undefeated in two BCS bowl games. BYU has yet to be invited.

    While the Cougars may have a fading legacy in college football, The Utes of today have surpassed your Coogs.

    The Ute's legacy is today. The Cougar legacy is about 25 years old and quickly fading.

  • DieHardCougar
    May 30, 2009 8:16 p.m.

    RE: I love BYU fans
    Okay...BYU is 32-7 in the past three seasons combined.
    Was that refreshing enough for ya'?

  • Silly is right
    May 30, 2009 8:48 p.m.

    6:34,

    Theirs a similar article about the Ute's new turf, but you or I aren't reading it because you and I both don't really care about that silly program. A revamped field after 28 years is news. And if Ogden would redo some of their getto sidewalks that would be news too. Silly, is taking time to comment on articles and programs you say you don't care about.

  • utes following
    May 30, 2009 9:02 p.m.

    wow. my uncle manages the field at BYU. this upgrade was coming for several years and was paid for from revenue of sellouts over more than 3 years (try and beat that utah). i was wishing for blue or white turf but Bronco hates turf.

  • Funny Utes
    May 30, 2009 9:39 p.m.

    The Utes inferiority complex is astounding. Many Ute fans simply can't do anything more than dis BYU.. The first 20 comments on this post are all by Ute Fans. Seriously, don't you have anything better to do than make fun of the grass at LaVell Edwards stadium...

    Typical Utes... Typical Utes.


  • Re:@1255pm
    May 30, 2009 10:02 p.m.

    If Utah has such a great legacy today, then why are you opening with Utah State and BYU is opening with Oklahoma?

  • DieHardCougar | 8:16 p.m.
    May 30, 2009 10:22 p.m.

    Okay... how about this....

    Utah is 30-9 in the past 3 seasons, with 3 bowl victories including the thumping of Alabama on a national stage.

    But, I suppose you would prefer to be 32-7 with a 2-1 bowl record against weak competition in the nearly anonymous Vegas Bowl.

  • Mr. Ute 12:12 p.m.
    May 30, 2009 10:31 p.m.

    I admit it, we have FAKE grass and you have the REAL deal. I hope our team isn't as fake as our grass!!!!

  • Re: Re:@1255pm | 10:02 p.m.
    May 30, 2009 10:36 p.m.

    ...why are you opening with Utah State and BYU is opening with Oklahoma?

    The answer seems obvious... because top teams like Oklahoma and Utah typically schedule an easy victory to open the season....Duuuhhhh.

  • Re: Mr. Ute@10:31 p.m.
    May 30, 2009 11:07 p.m.

    Speaking as an authentic Ute, I'm confident our team isn't as fake as you.

  • Bronco!
    May 30, 2009 11:09 p.m.

    You think the grass is going to "continue to make us one of the best programs in the country," and that a recruit is going to come look at your grass and say, "wow, this is impressive grass, I'm committing right now coach?" Bronco you crack me up.

  • PYoung
    May 31, 2009 12:23 a.m.

    The attention given to BYU by all of the blah blah ute writers encourages me on how afraid they are of the utes not living up to last seasons success. Your pretense dribble and deceptive comments are funny and typical of bush league ute supporters. Real ute fans don't hide behind games of phoney writers. But don't worry you phoney fans. I laugh thinking that the only people you are fooling are yourselves. You probably believe your own tripe. You guys are pathetic. All this garbage over some new grass. I can't wait to see what you will write when they announce the change of new uniform styles. Do you guys actually go to the U of U?

  • Scott
    May 31, 2009 12:56 a.m.

    We are 2nd to the brothers up North since we beat them 2 out of the last 3 and soon to be 3 out of 4. We must be 2nd rate.

  • re Cougar Fan 1:22 p.m.
    May 31, 2009 3:07 a.m.

    "Its so interesting that Ute fans can only talk garbage about BYU and never compliment their own team...Just try to have the same courtesy toward others that others show you."

    Absolutely. Show the kind of courtesy like two years of 'Harline is still open.' You zoobs reek of hypocrisy, talking nothing but trash on Utah threads all year after BYU wins the holy war, but as soon as Utah wins again, its all "Why are you guys in red being so mean?"

  • oh my gosh
    May 31, 2009 3:17 a.m.

    There are over 80 comments on this article and 25 on the Utah article. UNbelievable. This isn't the first time it's happened either. It's happened many, many times. The comment ratio on BYU articles compared to Utah articles is literally about 4 to 1, always always always. The Ute comments on BYU articles probably double the number of total comments on their own articles. Sad, sad world.

    Do your lives literally revolve around tearing others down? It's no wonder we, or anyone else in the conference or league can hardly stand you.

  • Re: Scott | 12:56 a.m.
    May 31, 2009 7:12 a.m.

    Hey Scott - For perspective, let's look at a broader sample of years.

    Utah has beaten BYU 5 of the last 7.

    For the last 5, 10, and 15 years Utah has a 60% winning percentage over BYU.

    Yes compared to Utah, BYU is 2nd rate.

  • Hey 7:12 a.m.
    May 31, 2009 8:34 a.m.

    Why do you yewt fans always get after BYU fans for cherry picking years when yewt fans invented it? It's always "why do BYU fans only go back to 1970 when talking about football success?" or " let's take a broader sample and go back 5, 10 or 15 years.". You're such cherry pickers. Why not go back 20, 25 or 30 years? Whatever. Lets talk about notable acheivements. I'll give you your 2 BCS bowl games(not championships) and your two top 10 finishes. Not only does BYU have a NC that yewt fans call mythical, but I have news for you; every NC is mythical by your definition, BYU also has a Heisman Trophy winner, multiple Outland Trophy winners, some O'Brien trophys, a Doak Walker trophy, several top 10 finishes and a footbal legacy that if your precious yewts want to match will take them 30 years of success as a football team, not 5, 10, or 15 years.

  • Remember new Ute grass?
    May 31, 2009 10:07 a.m.

    An opportunity has bee missed to compare the process of replacing BYU's turf with the process the Utes went through several years ago. If memory serves: The old surface was scraped off with a bulldozer, then new sod was laid with no surface prep. The grounds crew guy realized what was going to happen and quit. Then the field was opened immediately for the professional soccer season. By the time BYU came to town the field still had no root, smelled like a swamp, and was spray-painted green. A dozen members of the grounds crew would run out at every timeout and replace the "divots" made by the cleats of the offensive line.

    Utah may have started with a better drainage system, and the final result is adequate. The difference is that at the first game BYU will have an improved surface.

    BYU won that game - Doman-Staley come from behind final drive. (I think Utah missed a field goal on the next drive, someone find the kicker and ask what he thought of the field, now that is a story.)

  • Hey 8:34
    May 31, 2009 10:41 a.m.

    The truth is that BYU has to look at least 20 years in the past for its legacy achievements.

    But,if legacy achievement is all you have then I suppose that's what you have to go with. Enjoy...

    I prefer current achievement over legacy achievement any day.

  • Colorado Ute
    May 31, 2009 11:31 a.m.

    I am embarrassed by my fellow Utah fans. It is sad that we do have a solid football program but bush league fans. Let me help some of my Ute brothers:

    1- We have a great football program lets show some class and have a great fan base.

    2- Why do we as fans comment more on BYU articles than ones on our own teasm? That is pathetic.

    3- The way we act on this posts is making us out to be the pathethic little brother to BYU.

    4- The sadest thing is the stupid fans that say BYU has to go back 20+ years and Utah's success is now. Here are the facts: Since 2000 both teams have won the conference 3 times. BYU since 2000 has finished the season ranked in the AP 4 times and we have only finished 3 times. If BYU beat us this year that means they would have won 3 out of the last 4 games. Outside of the Crowton Years BYU has been very good.

    Some of my fellow Ute fans need to grow up and get some class and be as good as fans as our teams is.

  • Ute FAN
    May 31, 2009 11:57 a.m.

    Just because some Ute fans are stupid, that doesn't mean all Ute Fans are. In honesty, Ute and Cougar football is a lot alike. They are both getting the same returned missionaries and good character of most of the players that people like to stereotype BYU as having. And both have winning programs to be proud of like Ute fans are so proud about. We have it pretty good in our state, except for a few poor fans on both sides.
    GO UTES!

  • Mr. BYU fan
    May 31, 2009 12:01 p.m.

    All this talk about the Ute's being in the BCS TWICE! Wow! How many National Championships have you won? Enough said.

  • Hey 11:34
    May 31, 2009 12:06 p.m.

    First - Of BYU's four AP finishes the top two were 14th and 16th. Of Utah's three AP finishes the top two were 4th and 2nd. Utah win.

    Second - In bowl games since 2000, BYU has a 2-3 record. Utah has a 7-0 record including two BCS games. Utah win.

    Third - Since 2000 (your timeframe) Utah is 5-4 head to head against BYU. Utah win.

    Fourth - No Ute should ever hesitate to remind Cougars that our team is better than theirs.

    Fifth - Have your season tickets to LES arrived yet?

  • Ute fan
    May 31, 2009 12:35 p.m.

    The field does look really nice. I'm glad both programs got to upgrade so the Utes no longer have those hideous soccer lines and BYU won't have the crown. It will make for a great atmosphere come November. But changing the turf does not change the fact that it still is Rice Eccles South :)

  • Utah undefeated 04 & 08
    May 31, 2009 2:45 p.m.

    Last good BYU team 1996 when you gutted out a win in the Cotton Bowl (still second tier bowl). Enough said about who is better. Oh I forgot, you beat a 6-5 team for you glory year in 1984, so so sad for you, though you did get a gift that the rest of the football world vowed never to let happen again. Win against the big boys and then you can brag.

  • Hey 10:41
    May 31, 2009 2:57 p.m.

    If you prefer current then maybe you need to forget the Crowton years and your 04 Fiesta bowl. If you define that as current, then once again, you are cherry picking.

  • DieHardCougar
    May 31, 2009 3:01 p.m.

    RE: 10:22 p.m. May 30, 2009
    No need to send a rebuttal on my comment. I was simply responding to "I love BYU fans" who seems to think that BYU fans' talk about records has to be related to LaVell Edwards or the 70's. Were you paranoid I was bashing on the Utes?

  • Hey 2:45
    May 31, 2009 3:05 p.m.

    Once again you yewt fans cherry pick. BYU has been terrible against top ranked teams since 1996. That will never be forgotten by yewt fans. What seems to be forgotten is that BYU was beating up on top ranked programs long before the yewts. I do believe your coach can back me up on that since he was a player at BYU.

  • RE: Utah undefeated 04 & 08
    May 31, 2009 3:36 p.m.

    Consistently get 10-win seasons and then you can brag.

  • Anonymous
    May 31, 2009 4:01 p.m.

    You people are ridiculous. It's an article about GRASS. Save all your worthless banter until September.

  • Cougars Fan
    May 31, 2009 5:33 p.m.

    New grass is great and all, but the season cant get here fast enough. All the pathetic fair weather Ute fans replying to every article about BYU is getting old. I know you dont have a life but come on at least try and get one.

  • Re: 3:36 p.m.
    May 31, 2009 7:19 p.m.

    "Consistently get 10-win seasons and then you can brag."

    ************************8

    Consistent 10 win seasons get you invited to the Vegas Bowl.

    Yipeee.

  • Okay, no more cherry picking...
    May 31, 2009 7:52 p.m.

    No cherry picking of years... In all head to head games against BYU, Utah is 50-30-4.

    Scoreboard!!!

    Period... End of Story...Enough Said.

  • Re: 7:52
    May 31, 2009 8:26 p.m.

    Enough said? Who made you the arbiter? You can talk record all you want, but since you just cherry picked the win loss stat, how about we give the full picture. As in number of overall top 25 and top 20 finishes, heisman trophys, outland trophys, outland trophys, o'brien trophys, doak walker trophys, national championships, bowl appearances, and number of wins against top 25 teams. You see, just because Utah dominated BYU in the early years does not mean they were a national program. The truth is BYU made a big appearance on the national scene long before Utah did and they still get national respect because of that. The way they choose the NC was changed because of BYU. Now when Utah can say the same in the middle of a thirty year streak like BYU had, then they can lay claim to having surpassed BYU. Until then it's just Cherry picking.

  • Re: 7:52
    May 31, 2009 9:05 p.m.

    So with all of BYU's prominence and national respect gained over 30 years of excellence how is it that they can't get invited to a BCS game?

  • BroncoNation
    May 31, 2009 11:12 p.m.

    My my my, the Utes just can't get over playing in a high school stadium, they so rag on a real football field. Bronco Stadium is even better than than albatross in the foothills. 36-3, do those numbers mean anything?

  • Short Memories
    June 1, 2009 12:55 a.m.

    All this talk about BYU doing so poorly is a little overstated.

    Lets see:

    Three 10 win seasons in a row.
    Four Bowl appearances in a row.
    A 59-0 shut out over a Pac 10 team - I don't remember other in-state teams doing that.
    Won the conference championship 2 of the last 3 years.

    Sounds like they are doing just fine.

  • Re:9:05
    June 1, 2009 7:07 a.m.

    So with the yewts going to two BCS games in 5 years you still don't understand how the system works? I give them props for two great seasons in 5 years. Lets see it for 30 years before you start with all yhe smack.

  • jefe57
    June 1, 2009 7:22 a.m.

    BYU's field has been old and beat up for years. If you looked closely you could see puffs of dust come up from every tackle. Chunks of turf were flying all over the field last season. I'm excited to see the Cougars perform on a state-of-the-art field. The field should have been replaced sooner, but it'll be great to see the stadium with the new field this fall.

  • A 59-0 shutout......
    June 1, 2009 7:23 a.m.

    and then Uuuu dropped a simple bowl game to the 7-5 mediocre team in the Sin Bowl!!

    A real great thing to spout about.....I'd hold my tongue until you can do something!!!!

    10 wins got 'ya nothin'---try wining and going to the BCS--LOL

  • Re: 7:07 a.m.
    June 1, 2009 7:25 a.m.

    "So with the yewts going to two BCS games in 5 years you still don't understand how the system works?"

    **************************

    With two BCS victories in 5 years, I think the Utes do understand how the system works.

    What is it that the Cougars don't understand about getting to a BCS game?

  • Grow Up
    June 1, 2009 7:34 a.m.

    I'm a Y fan, but was glad to see the Utes success last year. Too bad others (on both sides) are so immature.

  • Mr. BYU fan
    June 1, 2009 7:53 a.m.

    To the Ute fans: I'm still waiting for an answer to my question. How many national championships has Utah won? In the last 5 years when you were winning all those bowl games? In the last 20 years? 30 years? 50 years? Ever? In all the times you have beaten BYU, have you ever won a national championship? Anybody? Anybody??? Hellooooooo. Any...any...any...body...body...body home..ome...ome...ome? Wow! The silence is deafening.

  • You're Welcome
    June 1, 2009 8:48 a.m.

    From a Ute fan, it is from the bottom of my heart that the University of Utah has graciously handed out millions of dollars to the lowly members of the MWC who can't make it to the BCS.

    Bronco, Kyle accepts your thanks for providing the funds to renovate your field with his BCS winnings.

    Redistribution is alive and well in the MWC.

  • Natural vs. Artificial
    June 1, 2009 8:51 a.m.

    Kudos to Bronco and company for having a natural grass field. Recent survey of professional football players shows a distinct preference for natural grass. Artificial surfaces cause more injuries (when compared to well constructed fields natural grass fields - not those that are as hard as a rock because of bad design/maintenance). Artificial turf is also very hot (i've melted shoes in one game on them). As a result, many pro stadiums are going back to natural grass. College and high schools seem to be moving toward artificial because they erroneously think that they cost less to maintain. The only reason to have artificial grass is if you are playing on it all of the time to the point that it can't stand up to the abuse (not the case for a football stadium field that isn't used for much else). Bottom-line, I'd much rather play on the BYU field than the Ute field. Most players would agree.

  • Re: BroncoNation
    June 1, 2009 9:00 a.m.


    Highschool stadium?
    Well, call it whatever you want, but it's helped Utah to 2 BCS seasons.
    You Broco Stadium helped BYU to 0 BCS seasons --just empty promises.

    Hahaha!!!!

  • Re: Mr. BYU Fan
    June 1, 2009 9:06 a.m.

    "In all the times you have beaten BYU, have you ever won a national championship? Anybody? Anybody??? Hellooooooo."

    The "silence" would be a lot less "deafening" if this site's moderators wouldn't be so blue-blood-biased. I've posted this before, but since you asked...

    Utah Football National Championship Titles:

    (1) FansPoll
    "FansPoll" is the only website of its kind that lets fans choose who the next collegiate football champion should be. The fans have spoken and confirmed what may believe, that the true national champ is Utah."

    (2) CollegeFootballTalk
    "...we recognized the significance of Utah's accomplishments and we declared the Utes the CollegeFootballTalk National Champions. Our readers agreed, making Utah the overwhelming choice as the rightful 2008 National Champs."

    And there's a Football National Championship trophy in the trophy case up here in SLC. Feel free to stop by and see it anytime you like. It's pretty!

  • Re: 9:06
    June 1, 2009 9:30 a.m.

    National Championship trophy from whom? The pee-wee league of America? Did Deseret First make you national champs? Until you win the OFFICIAL NCAA CHAMPIONSHIP, the "Fanspoll" and "Colegefootballtalk" drabble is useless. You may have a couple of gymnastics trophies and that one b-ball trophy from the forties, but nothing to compare with BYU's football and numerous other trophies for XC, track, volleyball, and new this year: RUGBY!

  • skeptic
    June 1, 2009 9:38 a.m.

    RE: 9:06 a.m. poster

    The "FansPoll"? Are you kidding me???? I wonder how many fans would have taken the Utes over Florida? I sure wouldn't have. Your team had a terrific year last year. Be happy with that. You may have been the 2nd best team in America. Too many Ute fans live in Ute La La Land.

  • Paul Carter
    June 1, 2009 10:01 a.m.

    I love natural grass

  • huh?
    June 1, 2009 10:08 a.m.

    I'm a BYU fan, but was it really necessary to spend money to ship turf in from California? Aren't we taking ourselves a little too serious here? It's grass...get over it. Maybe next year we should have the Marriott Center's new basketball floor made out of Redwood trees. This is stupid.

  • @ 9:30 and 9:38
    June 1, 2009 11:01 a.m.

    Since the DesNews moderators won't print websites, I gave you the name. You'll just have to put .com at the end. Or you can come up to SLC and see the trophy for yourself.

    Zoobies like to pretend to overlook the fact that in 1984, you played NO ONE! You squeaked by an eventual 3-win Pitt team to open the season, then escaped a 6-5 Michigan team to finish your season. Good thing the tdS didn't have to face a 7-5 Arizona team.

    The '04 Utes THOROUGHLY DOMINATED EVERY OPPONENT. The '84 kewgs escaped FIVE UNRANKED teams by a TD or less. The '08 Utes beat FOUR teams finishing their seasons in the Top-25; two of whom were Top-10. If the '08 Ute team was a legitimate #2 team, it would have been as the #2 team in Ute HISTORY. The #1 Ute team would have been their '04 squad, and BOTH superior to anything every emanating from Utah County.

  • re: skeptic
    June 1, 2009 11:16 a.m.

    "I wonder how many fans would have taken the Utes over Florida?"

    Most of 'em. It was the fans who voted for them.

    You know, for a group of self-congratulatory nobodies clamoring for national recognition, you sure do seem to ignore what the FANS think. But, I guess I can understand that. Because they don't think your '84 trophy is valid. They don't think you EARNED it. They created the Bowl Coalition and BCS to prevent another team backing into the #1 spot.

    Utah FINISHED #2 because of where they STARTED. Had we been ranked where Phil Steele had us in his preseason poll, it would have been us playing for the National Title. Now, we can speculate, but never know, who -- Utah or Florida -- is the TRUE 2008 NATIONAL CHAMPION.

    But as long as it's a matter of VOTING...then there's nothing illegitimate about FansPoll or CollegeFootballTalk VOTING for the Utes the Championship.

    And speaking of "votes", the Utes earned 1/3 of the AP's #1 votes.

  • re: skeptic (cont)
    June 1, 2009 11:20 a.m.

    Utah's '04 and '08 seasons were both greater achievements than the tdS' '84 season. Any zoob who will argue their NC Trophy > the Utes' Fiesta or Sugar Bowl Trophies -- by the mere fact that it is called an NC Trophy -- must also believe that Paris Hilton is smarter than they are since she makes more money than they do.

    So do you?

  • Bender Rodriguez
    June 1, 2009 11:41 a.m.

    re: skeptic | 9:38 a.m. June 1, 2009

    >>I wonder how many fans would have taken the Utes over Florida? I sure wouldn't have.>Too many Ute fans live in Ute La La Land.

  • Bender Rodriguez
    June 1, 2009 11:45 a.m.

    to the 10:02 p.m. May 30, 2009 poster

    //If Utah has such a great legacy today, then why are you opening with Utah State and BYU is opening with Oklahoma?//

    Legacy is currently a faction in the WWE or fancy word used by someone trying to hang on past greatness.

    Is Glory Days by Springsteen on your Ipod?

  • Get a life
    June 1, 2009 12:03 p.m.

    All these comments make both sides sound like Boise State fans. Nobody wants that reputation. Utes have been good lately, Cougs have as well. Stop ripping on history! As for bearly beating teams, did you by chance watch any football other then MTN West? If I recall Bama (your wipping boy) squeaked quite a few out themselfs.
    As a true football fan, I'm excited to see 3 decade grass get replaced, and hope someday to see a playoff.

  • rusby
    June 1, 2009 12:04 p.m.

    We went out on the new turf in the middle of a downpour on a Sunday evening. We ran around and we were surprised by how grippy the grass was, and we were wearing church shoes. As my father-in-law said after, it was probably as close to man romance as you could get.

  • Mark
    June 1, 2009 12:05 p.m.

    NC Trophy > Fiesta + Sugar Bowl Trophies.

  • Re:11:01 and 11:16
    June 1, 2009 12:14 p.m.

    Wow, and yewt fans like to call BYU's NC mythical? You just redefined the word "mythical". Just make sure you carefully pull your head out of the clouds so as not to hurt yourself. And way to get a self proclaimed NC trophy. We are all proud of you. That's about as little brother as you can get. Way to pull up some obscure website that nobody has ever heard of to back up your rediculous claim. LOL

  • Turfpro
    June 1, 2009 12:31 p.m.

    Although we (ProFields Sports Turf) provided the synthetic turf perimeter for BYU's Lavell Edwards Stadium I prefer natural grass for most outdoor sports when it can be maintained correctly. Most natural turf fields are not or can not be maintained to that degree, especially at the the high school level. BYU's new natural grass field with synthetic perimeter is spectacular. Please take note how seamlessly the synthetic turf perimeter matches the real grass. More importantly it matches the feel and playability of natural grass. We support BYU football and are amazed how well they do given the parameters they must work within. It doesn't hurt me either that Utah has done well. I am a BYU fan, but not a Utah hater. If you want more information on premium synthetic turf products please see zeroscapeturf dot com. Yes - I just advertised.

  • Hey Amen | 7:03 a.m.
    June 1, 2009 12:40 p.m.

    While football gets props, the baseball team finihed below .500 for the season. They happen to get lucky to get in the post season. Below .500 is NOTHING to be proud about.

  • Re: 12:14
    June 1, 2009 12:47 p.m.

    ...said the fanbase who have "never heard of" Phil Steele when he picked the Utes ahead of the kewgs last preseason.

    Here's a quote you can pay special attention to:

    "But as long as it's a matter of VOTING...then there's nothing illegitimate about FansPoll or CollegeFootballTalk VOTING for the Utes the Championship."

    That's right. S/he said "...as long as it's a matter of VOTING..." Zoobs CANNOT claim they have a Nat'l Championship earned by play on the field in a "Championship game". Their title is ONLY IN VOTES. If they can claim their title is valid, then they CANNOT invalidate the VERY REAL NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP TROPHY sitting in the Utes Trophy Case, as OUR title is ALSO IN VOTES. Only using a larger surveyed group.

    BTW. FansPoll and CollegeFootballTalk are NATIONAL polls, not "self proclaimed" or administered by Utah Alumni.

    "Way to pull up some obscure website that nobody has ever heard of to back up your rediculous [sic] claim."

    ...and way to reject said claims by FAILING TO INVESTIGATE or REFUTE.

    Willfully ignorant zoobs!

  • Re: Top Ute | 7:56 a.m.
    June 1, 2009 12:48 p.m.

    What are you trying to say here? That "better" stuff has produced you 1 MWC championship in the last 5 years, the off years you guys failed to deliver or choked.

    "Better" won't get you anything this season.

  • re: Hey Amen
    June 1, 2009 1:02 p.m.

    Who beat BYU in the opening round of the MWC Baseball Tourney?????? Anyone?????

    I guess losing to a team that finishes below .500 is even less to be proud about.

  • Re: 12:47
    June 1, 2009 1:13 p.m.

    First of all, way to stereotype. I actually happen to think that Phil Steele is one of, if not the, most accurate preseason prognosticators in the biz. And I say that because of his year in and year out results.

    Willfully ignorant? Tell that to the Gator nation who would refute any claim made by a yewt fan to a 2008-09 NC. You see, the reason I called it obscure is because it is not recognized by anyone but who they vote for. What is coveted in college football is this thing called a Consensus National Championship. As in the two polls that are consnsensually recognized as the two polls who choose the NC, and have chosen the NC for almost the last century.

    But, just to clarify, I think it's a load of crap. I actually(yes, I am a Cougar fan) think Utah got ripped. There is no doubt they should have been in the so called NC game. I even enjoyed the Utes success last year. I just hope it makes a difference in getting us closer to a playoff in college football.

  • tghebdon
    June 1, 2009 1:16 p.m.

    We were out coached for the last three games. There teams knew exactly what the cougers were going to do and were waiting for the pass or run. We ran right into them and they on the other hand went right through us. It should be against the law at the Y for the players to read about themselves. They read about how good they are and feel that they don't need to go the extra mile to win. The Lord helps them who help themselves. Good Luck, and work hard.

  • @ 12:48
    June 1, 2009 1:21 p.m.

    "What are you trying to say here? That "better" stuff has produced you 1 MWC championship in the last 5 years"

    DUMB!!! Just plain DUMB!!! The Utes have been MWC AND BCS Bowl Champions in 2004 and 2008 in the last 5 years. 1+1=2. The tdS has 2 MWC championships too. But NO BCS Bowl wins. Blue-Hooo!

    The Utes went UNDEFEATED, and DOMINATED their BCS Bowl opponents. The 2 11-2 tdS teams dominated an overrated Oregon (7-6) team, and BARELY squeaked by, by a FINGER, to a team that would conclude their season at 6-7, in THEIR Championship years. IMPRESSIVE!

    The Utes DOMINATED the tdS in OUR MWC Championship seasons. The tdS squeaked by, on MIRACLE plays, during THEIR MWC Championship seasons.

    Offhand, I'd have to say OUR 2 MWC Championships > YOUR 2 MWC Championships. I think, offhand, while you won't ADMIT, IT.....YOU THINK THAT TOO!

    Ha ha ha ha!

    GO UTES!!!

  • Re: Mark
    June 1, 2009 1:24 p.m.

    Paris Hilton's IQ > Mark's X 2

  • BYU Fan
    June 1, 2009 1:33 p.m.

    I believe Paris Hilton is twice as smart as me, our fans, and our alumni. She HAS to be. She makes more money than us.

  • wow
    June 1, 2009 4:14 p.m.

    so many dumb comments on a new field, so a school does something to upgrade their stadium. Why all the dumb comments???????????????

  • DieHardCougar
    June 1, 2009 7:41 p.m.

    Nothing like a good rivalry. Is it time for football yet?

  • DieHardCougar
    June 1, 2009 7:43 p.m.

    Oh, I almost forgot...
    Hey, tdS dude. Can you take it easy on the caps. It's starting to hurt my eyes.

  • TheHailstorm
    June 1, 2009 8:46 p.m.

    I didn't hear a single thank you for the utes handingYBU 1.5 million from their BCS wins to help with the new turf, In Fact not one Blew Blood has said thanks for all of that money. While BYU was missing parctices down in Vegas and losing to a 5th place PAC 10 TEAM UTAH WAS WINNING THE SUGAR BOWL AND DONATING 75,000 DOLLARS NOT ONCE BUT TWICE ! SHOULD BYU EVER DO THE SAME I WOULD MAN UP AND THANK YOU FOR THE $$ , BUT THAT AIN'T ABOUT TO HAPPEN AS ALL THE COUGARS CAN WRITE IS CAT SCAT ABOUT 30 YEARS AGO. THE TURF IS FROM CALIFORNIA. SO WE HAVE TO SEE HOW IT WILL HOLD UP TO THE WEATHER AND TROMPING THE Y GETS THIS YEAR.
    CAPITAL LETTERS WERE USED ON PURPOSE SO THAT YOUR LITTLE BROTHER CAN READ THIS TO YOU.

  • X-Factor 4 Quest 4 Perfection 2
    June 2, 2009 7:20 a.m.

    I think the turf is what they need to finally be able to beat ranked teams. Go Turf!!!

  • BYU is GREAT!!
    June 2, 2009 7:32 a.m.

    Clark Kent | 6:31 a.m. May 30, 2009
    What BYU needs is more loyal fans that remain true during ALL of the ups and downs. BYU has a more consistant football program than most teams in the entire nation.
    -----------
    What BYU needs is fans who live in reality. Beating weak WAC and MWC opponents year in and year out and then losing in bowl games against good teams does not make a national power house. And not UofA is not a good team.


  • Utes Rule
    June 2, 2009 7:44 a.m.

    Re: 7:52 | 8:26 p.m. May 31, 2009
    The truth is BYU made a big appearance on the national scene long before Utah did and they still get national respect because of that.
    ----------------
    Right, and the "fundamentals of our economy are strong". National respect in this era is earned by getting an BCS invite... so how many invites for BYU?

    Hands down BYU was the better program in the 80's; I know I sat through one beat down after another.

    BUT In this century BYU is as relevant as Auburn from past glory but unlike Auburn BYU hasn't finished undefeated or ranked top 2 since 1984.

    BYU has beaten ONE ranked team since 1999 (TCU at home) while Utah beat 4 top 25 teams of which 2 were in the top 10 (TCU and Bama) in 2008.

  • Turf PAID by Utes Sugar Bowl
    June 2, 2009 7:53 a.m.

    Mr. BYU fan | 7:53 a.m. June 1, 2009
    To the Ute fans: I'm still waiting for an answer to my question. How many national championships has Utah won? In all the times you have beaten BYU, have you ever won a national championship? Anybody? Anybody???
    --------------
    ZERO just as many BCS bowl game wins by BYU. Come to reality BYU fan the 84 era is over; a non-BCS team winning or even getting a shot at the title game is OVER. BYU deserves respect for its 84 accomplishment but come on beating a 6-6 MI team in a title game and then having judges decide the champion is as impressive as Olympic figure skating results.

  • Re:7:53
    June 2, 2009 9:24 a.m.

    Kind of like judges deciding who plays in a BCS game and votes a team #2. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Wake up yewt fans. We still get a NC decided by a bunch of voters. Until we have a playoff we will never get a true NC. BYU was fortunate in 84, and they had a good team. Utah was fortunate in 04 and 08 and had very good teams. All you can do is beat the teams on your schedule. BTW I would like to see you try and win an Olympic figure skating medal.

  • skeptic
    June 2, 2009 10:02 a.m.

    I stand corrected. The fans between Sandy and Bountiful definitely agreed that the Utes should have been #1 last year. (key words being-should have)

  • Burt Bacharach
    June 2, 2009 11:46 a.m.

    at least BYU can still grow grass, Utah gave up on it years ago after they couldn't figure out how to keep it nice. (I was at the the 2000 Holy War (read Lavell's last miracle) and the field was a JOKE). you are lucky the olympics brought you an expanded stadium with artificial turf, otherwise, urban meyer would have never stepped foot in utah and things might be very different. not that i hate it, i welcome utah's success, i love it for BYU, for mid-majors, and for college football in the west. i'm actually excited to see the opponents that BYU and Utah play this year. the MWC is rising!

  • Go Utes
    June 2, 2009 2:34 p.m.

    Re:7:53 | 9:24 a.m. June 2, 2009
    Kind of like judges deciding who plays in a BCS game and votes a team #2. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Wake up yewt fans.
    ------------------------
    Yes those same judges the only difference is in 1984 BYU didn't face a monopoly were they had a ZERO chance of winning a national title. That team today would have made a BCS game but not have won a national title.



  • Cougar Fan in Alabama
    June 2, 2009 3:25 p.m.

    The hate spewed between both sides of this rivalry is disturbing. We have some pretty big rivalries in the South, but the people I have seen do not talk smack like they do in the BYU-Utah rivalry. Maybe its just Southern Hospitality.

    Anyway, my two cents...

    BYU has a better football history in the modern era of college football. The national championship is something to be proud of, though it did come at the hands of a 6-5 Michigan team (though it was an exciting game to watch). BYU has long history of good seasons, but never consistently beat good to great teams. They have been consistently good under Bronco, but have not yet dominated a season to end up in a BCS game.

    Utah has dominated two seasons, for which they should be proud, but has been inconsistent in the years between. However, they are a program on the rise.

    The point is both are good programs, and it is usually a dog fight during the rivalry game. Let's be civil about it. Both sides' fans feel connections to their particular school, and there is nothing wrong with that.

    Oh, and I like natural grass fields.

  • Anonymous
    June 2, 2009 4:36 p.m.

    Ute fans can't be satisfied with a BCS championship season, the jeolousy runs so deep they even have to comment on our new turf, and of course its negative as usual. What makes yours better? Is it some kind of transfer hybrid from manchester Uniteds field. Get a life clueless utes!

  • RE: 2:34
    June 2, 2009 11:03 p.m.

    You are correct. As a Cougar fan I will admitt that BYU benefited from when they went undefeated. But, tell me, why do yewt fans keep refering to the Sugar Bowl win as the BCS Championship? And all I hear from yewt fans is how myopic BYU fans are. Looks like there are plenty of myopic yewt fans to go around as well. I hope both teams go undefeated next year until they meet. That would be great. Please beat Oregon this year Utah. Their coach has zero respect for the MWC.

  • Re: Go Utes | 2:34 p.m.
    June 3, 2009 9:42 a.m.

    "That team today would have made a BCS game but not have won a national title."

    Correction: That team today MIGHT have made a BCS game. You are assuming THAT team would have gone undefeated in ANY era. THAT team played the 4th easiest schedule in Div. 1-A. Boise State played a more competitive schedule than that in both 2004 AND 2008, but didn't make the cut.

    I would surmise that should THAT team have received a BCS invite, they would have finished no different than the undefeated 2007 Hawai'i team. Sure they put up big offensive numbers against weak competition, but when faced with a quality program, like 2007 Georgia, they would most likely have suffered the same humiliation.

    BCS Bowl games are considered "BIG GAMES". And we all know how well the tdS fares in those situations.

    Next year, with Oklahoma, Florida St, Utah, and TCU on their schedule, they will have had the opportunity to face 4 ranked teams on their schedule....like the '08 Utes. We'll see how well they do, but are there any zoobies out there that would like to venture a guess?

    Nope?

    I thought not.

    GO UTES!!!

  • Ute Fans...bye, bye
    June 3, 2009 4:48 p.m.

    I skipped comment pages 2, 3 and most of 4. One page of drivel from U fans is enough. Get a life and cheer on your team and back away from your BYU obsession. I think we all know you have won the Fiesta Bowl, you have won the Sugar Bowl, you have scoreboard over BYU at least until November 2009. Did I miss anything from your litany of boorishness? Show some class. Post on your articles and cheer on your team. You look like poor winners...and that makes you losers.

    I'm glad the Y has the new field and I eagerly await football season.

    Go Cougars!

  • Glory Days
    June 3, 2009 6:57 p.m.

    BYU won National Championship in 1984-that was 25 years ago. When are Cougar fans going to stop talking about the "glory days" and realize they haven't had a Championship team in 25 years. Some of the players from the 1984 teams are grandfathers.

  • To sum it all up...
    June 3, 2009 8:41 p.m.


    1) new turf can not make Cougar team better --Bronco will not smile in Oct, Nov
    2) new turf is funded by their rival (Utah) with the BCS payouts from 04 and 08
    3) BYU football has not won any big games recently --save it cougar fans, 1984 was 25 years ago and it was not that impressive to begin with.

    Any questions? You know who to call...


  • Mike
    June 5, 2009 8:36 a.m.

    It just shows to go ya that the Ute "Fans" have no class. It's just grass folks. Grow up.

  • Re: Go Utes @ 2:34 p.m.
    June 5, 2009 2:28 p.m.

    I disagree. I believe that if Utah would have had only 1 loss in 2007 (like BYU did in 1983) and not choked against teams like Air Force and UNLV, and started the season ranked, that this year could have ended differently. in 1984 everyone "said" that it could NEVER be done, just like they say today, but BYU did it and prove them wrong. The biggest reason why they were able to do so...23 straight victories! BYU was poised to do it again this year (coming off 10 straight wins in '07, being ranked 7th after only 5 weeks into the season and opportunities to increase by beating a ranked TCU team and finish by beating a top ten Utah team) but they choked just like the Utes did in '07. Unfortunately in Div 1 College football, the previous season(s) have too much weight on the future.

  • Cant Wait!!!
    June 8, 2009 7:41 p.m.

    To see how fast Utah looks on this new field.

  • GO COUGARS!
    July 9, 2009 1:33 p.m.

    As a HUGE BYU fan and alum I want to know everything that happens with the team and the stadium. And to those who are so worried about it taking away from academic money you should know it did not. My cousin is the Associate athletic director over Finance and it was funded without touching the academic funds. Plus true fans I believe would want the team to have EVERY advantage we can get. I think its embarrasing when people try to say that football wins really arent the reason we are playing cause if they aren't why bother? I hope the BCS should be brought down too! :)