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  • Jazzless
    April 3, 2009 1:06 a.m.

    You just can't stop JR Smith. He can make 3's all night long at any distance in the Pepsi Center. Utah had no answers, and Kirilenko should a apply to be BIG BIRD in the next Sesame Street!

  • Fedor
    April 3, 2009 1:06 a.m.

    Tonight the Jazz solidified my prediction of an 8th seed and a 5 and out against the Lakers in the first round. This offseason will be very interesting. This team needs a heart transplant. I don't remember ever being so frustrated with a team. Someone needed to put their forearm in Smith's chest and knock him down after his 4th or 5th three pointer...but we'd rather just stand around and watch him hoist up some more. This team is not tough....mentally, physically, they are weak. This definitely has been the most disappointing year I can ever remember. Try and find a positive...honestly, I implore anyone to find anything good about this year. Wait....there is one....It's almost over.

  • Stockton to Malone
    April 3, 2009 1:11 a.m.

    What has happened to our team? At this point I'm just crossing my fingers that we continue to choke and don't even make the playoffs. At least then we can get a good draft pick. Seriously the Jazz are all talk. I doubt I will renew my tickets next year!

  • Superstars
    April 3, 2009 1:15 a.m.

    Wouldn't it be great if Boozer and Okur worked on their DEFENSE... they look pathetic on the floor. Guess what Booz your little yelling in the face when your man shoots the ball isn't working. How about you move your feet and contest the ball. And Okur just looks like a retard every time his man gets the ball and he throws his arm up after his man has already shot the ball or blown right past him.

  • Miles
    April 3, 2009 1:17 a.m.

    CJ is the only one who showed up tonight.

  • Performance
    April 3, 2009 1:18 a.m.

    It's too bad these athlete's pay isn't tied to performance...oh I guess it is but only in a contract year. Honestly, wouldn't you feel ripped off if you were the Miller's and your employees were NOT GETTING THEIR JOB DONE!!!! Win a game on the road you SOFTIES!

  • todd on "Jerry's Kids"
    April 3, 2009 1:58 a.m.

    Told you so. Sad. The person you need to pity is Greg Miller. He is caught in the middle, and I do not envy this off season. Frankly, after tonight I would clean house, bring in new coaches and start over. Even if it would take 2 years. Economically, of course not doable and O Connor would not have the guts anyway. STATISTICS- WHY THEY DO NOT MATTER PLUS-MINUS, TELL ME IF THIS SHOWS WHO HAS HEART AND WHO DOES NOT. OUR LEADERS SHOOT 14-47. KIRILENKO 1-10 (AND PEOPLE WANT HIM TO PLAY MORE HEE HEE),. There is many ironic issues. Much Maligned CJ played well the whole game (offensively at least), Korver, Millsap the whole game. Outside of this forget it..Carlos "Boyzer" talked big before "such a big game". "Boyzer" would then miss layups, or go up soft and be "flyswatted". Defense. Even worse. Okur swatting with his arm like flies and backing off. Missed 1000 layups or 2 footers.,(tight rims same for Denver). DWIl COLD AS CUCUMBER. "THE BREV" AWFUL, great lob to AK (ha ha) should have been given more than 1 turnover. More shortly.

  • Bill
    April 3, 2009 4:16 a.m.

    For years the black players complained about the all white teams, now the reverse is true. Is it not time to balance the game, and get our bucks worth of highly motivated players, instead of those who put out when they want to?

  • rvalens2
    April 3, 2009 4:37 a.m.

    Clank ... Rebound ... Clank .... Rebound etc.

    The Jazz are heading the wrong direction fast.

    If this keeps up Boozer can say adios to that big payday he wanted this summer.

  • jass fan
    April 3, 2009 5:00 a.m.

    They might as well pack up right now and go fishing because this season is over. They will probably end up playing the lakers in the first round and we all know what that means.

  • horrible
    April 3, 2009 5:14 a.m.

    Pack it up boys, your headed to LA to get it handed to you. I have never seen such a terrible team on the road. Where is the leadership? Where is the coaching? Their just all around horrbible.

  • WC Jazz fan
    April 3, 2009 5:24 a.m.

    No matter how hard it breaks my heart to say this, the Jazz just are not good enough this year to be successful in the playoffs if they don't play defense on the road. I would rather see them be successful in the playoffs when they have a dominant regular season and carry that play into the post season than for them to be a 7 or 8 seed hoping they can be a fluke and upset better teams as an underdog. There has not been any real senior leadership on the floor since Derek Fisher left and that is what is missing.

  • Moose
    April 3, 2009 5:53 a.m.

    "I was more disappointed in our defense," he added. ... That's the way I've always looked at it as a coach. But some of our defense it looked like we didn't really want to help each other enough to win the ball game."

    Excuse me, but I thought you were "old school" and demanded the followership of the players. You've been well paid for 21 years. Isn't your leadership and your system working well enough to get the players to buy into what you are teaching?

    Utah, 2nd seed in the west. I doubt it. We may not make the playoffs. Then what coach?

    SLC loves you, come on back for number 22.

  • SantaBarbaraJazzFN
    April 3, 2009 6:16 a.m.

    I'm not surprised. Good luck Jazz.

  • frank day
    April 3, 2009 6:20 a.m.

    this is a lazy bunch of starters. If they are hitting they may play. They are not working for the
    big bucks they are paid. Can Boozer and use Milsap.
    It is coach's job to give this guys a boot in the
    rear.

  • Not gettin' 'er done
    April 3, 2009 6:24 a.m.

    No heart, no defense, no chance.

  • News Flash
    April 3, 2009 6:31 a.m.

    Want to beat the jazz? Play them physically and shoot the three. If the threes go down, so do the jazz. Jazz just cannot/will not guard the three.

  • IT'S OFFICIAL...
    April 3, 2009 6:32 a.m.

    that Jazz cannot win on the road against winning teams; that Jazz cannot win the big games, when it most matters;that they have no heart of champions; that they are a one dimensional team.
    They are one and done: we have to expect losses at NO, SA and LA. I am not even sure they will win tonight...
    I will be very disappointed if Greg Miller does not dismantle this team and its coaching staff during the summer.
    It's time for Jerry Sloan to pack out of Utah. Enough said.
    This team is just the league's laughingstock, when it comes to road games. It's very outrageous for Jazz fans.

  • So much for predictions. . .
    April 3, 2009 6:35 a.m.

    Remember when Boozer told us how tough they were going to be when they all got back healthy to make a run in the playoffs? Where are all the Boozer lovers out there who still believe that? He played last night like he needed to be introduced again to a layup.

  • Well Said.
    April 3, 2009 6:51 a.m.

    The Jazz are truly the laughingstock of the NBA right now. PJ Carlesimo, as a color commentator was just having the blast of his failed coaching life out there, laughing his butt off all night long at the Jazz incoherence, lethargy and ineptitude on defense.
    That game must have revived his miserable coaching career, for at least he found some mediocrity which is less desirable than his own failure.

  • Choosing to chump
    April 3, 2009 7:00 a.m.

    Note to Jazz: Just because the talking heads say you don't play defense ("little resistance from Boozer") doesn't mean that you HAVE TO not play defense. Just because they say you don't play well on the road doesn't mean you CAN'T play well on the road. You are choosing to be chumps.

  • Anonymous
    April 3, 2009 7:06 a.m.

    One series and out?

  • Hugh G. Hater
    April 3, 2009 7:07 a.m.

    Predictable.

    As I posted before, nothing will change.
    Boozer isn't going anywhere, he has destroyed his marketability single-handedly.

    The Jazz management will continue to do the same thing time and again, just like Jerry.

    Jerry needs to read "Who Moved my Cheese (playoffs)".

  • KOC's fault
    April 3, 2009 7:09 a.m.

    Look at the Nuggets. A few stars surrounded by guys with minimum contracts fighting for a job. What do we have? A bunch of overpaid guys who refuse to put in the effort. Kirilenko and the Birdman do the same things: annoy shooters and score very few points. Andrei gets paid $15 mil (and rising) to do it and Anderson gets less than $1 mil. Boozer and Kleiza do the same thing: throw up bricks and whine. Boozer gets almost $12 mil and Kleiza gets less than $2 mil. Too many role players getting treated like stars.

  • Sloan should
    April 3, 2009 7:15 a.m.

    be held accountable for the play of his team. Some coaches may have valid excuses (no talent), but no coach has an excuse when his team doesn't compete.

    The defense and overall effort put forth by this team is an embarassement to the players and to the coach. If the players don't respect Sloan enough to even try, if they are just mailing it in and and cashing their huge checks, then he should resign.

  • Cowboy Joe
    April 3, 2009 7:17 a.m.

    The Jazz won't win another game on the road this year. They will be the 8th seed lose in 5 to the Lakers. This team needs a serious overhaul. Sloan needs to go, he can't excite the team and rally them. He looks like the players out of it. A trade needs to be done. If any body still thinks DWILL is better then CP3 they need to get their head examened. DWIll has flashes were he is better, but CP3 plays great all the time. Sir Charles said neither Boozer nor DWILL is a leader, because they don't take the team and make it theirs.

  • Theory
    April 3, 2009 7:19 a.m.

    Put the Lakers right where the Jazz want 'em. Play poorly enough to meet the Lakers in the first round as the 8 seed, whallop 'em, go on to win the West, then the Finals.

  • Frustrated Fan
    April 3, 2009 7:27 a.m.

    Why is Boozer even playing? He has done nothing since he came back from his injury, and I actually feel like he is more of a liability than anything. The only thing I can assume is that he is getting the minutes, in an attempt for him to stay with the team. I say let him go, we are much better off without him. The Jazz have no heart. If they get a low playoff seed (5-8) they may as well just stay home, because they are not capeable of winning even 1 game on the road. Pathetic.

  • Clank
    April 3, 2009 7:34 a.m.

    Millsap, Brewer, Boozer= I hold my breath everytime one of these guys shoot a foul shot. If the Jazz did not keep going 1-2 or 0-2 at the line in that stretch they might have pulled that game out despite the poor game. Memo cannot buy a foul shot lately either. The Jazz biggest problem is interior defense. THERE IS NONE. Let's get Memo the heck out and bring in someone that can block a shot or be physical with someone. Karl Malone would have abused "bird man." A friggin' lurpy, goofy white dude and he owned Boozer and anyone that went inside. Malone would have had him in foul trouble in the first 3 minutes. Oh, I miss the good old days. Stock and Malone, but hopefully this Jazz team will add some pieces to the puzzle next year. This year is out the window. First round exit.

  • Gotta love it baby. . .
    April 3, 2009 7:34 a.m.

    . . . Despite their season-low 36.6 percent shooting as a team, Williams (18 points, 10 assists, but 5-for-12 from the field), Carlos Boozer (15 points, 11 rebounds, but 7-for-23) and Mehmet Okur (14 points and a game-high 15 boards, but 2-for-12) all managed double-doubles. They couldn't throw the ball in the ocean last night. Chris "Birdman" Andersen showed the heart that's made him an instant fan favorite in Denver. His eight blocks Thursday were the most by a Jazz opposing player this season. The Jazz have NOTHING in the middle on defense that even approaches Andersen's hustle and determination. They also were a career high for Andersen, by one. Besides the damage he did from behind the long-distance line (8 threes), J.R. Smith also dished a career high-tying seven assists. You can almost circle the date of Jazz games on your calendar and know that you're going to have a career night against them because the Jazz have no heart. They'll accommodate your fondest desires and get out of your way to help you accomplish your fondest NBA dreams. Wow, heartless, gutless, pathetic losers.

  • houdini
    April 3, 2009 7:39 a.m.

    miles a few points little else no defense no rebounds,he`s worthless

  • John Wicks
    April 3, 2009 7:45 a.m.

    Boozer sure is playing like he will get a raise next year. It's time for an overhaul from the PA announcer to the towel boy.

  • nottyou
    April 3, 2009 7:45 a.m.

    Please trade Boozer.

  • Millsap and Korver
    April 3, 2009 7:47 a.m.

    played hard and tried to defend and rebound,can`t understand Millsap sitting he was 4 for 4 at the time and Boozer was stinking it up,we have some bright spots,Brewer,Millsap,Korver and Williams,the rest suck including miles

  • Talk
    April 3, 2009 7:49 a.m.

    You hear all this talk about Sloan being tough and his teams tough. I don't know about you, but I do not see a whole lot of toughness out of this team. Sloan gets tossed the other night and Phil pretends to hold him back. What a joke, well rehearsed.

  • Sloan's Genius
    April 3, 2009 7:50 a.m.

    Hey all of you silent Sloan lovers, where are you?

    Lets look at the guys that get all of the minutes:
    Boozer- nothing need be said here.
    AK- jekyl and hyde meets a starving refugee. Someone please buy him a cheeseburger or calcium supplement.
    Dwill- gets left in too long when frustrated and racks up fouls . . . which leads to . . .
    Brevin Knight- what does he do again?
    Okur- disappeared the last three games.

    So if we have such a deep bench as Sloan says, why aren't more players getting time? I mean Sloan always whines he doesn't know what to do with everybody so I guess he should bench the young talent and keep doing the same thing he's done the last 21 years . . . with the same results. Bravo Jerry.

  • Jazz Rock
    April 3, 2009 7:50 a.m.

    Even if we get the mcnuggets we still own them at home so all we have to do is still 1 on the road

  • TicketHolder
    April 3, 2009 7:51 a.m.

    I just don't have the stomach to renew my tickets after watching another road loss. I believe we are now 0 -16, on the road, against playoff bound teams. I hope we end up with an 8th seed so the Lakers can finish us quickly!

  • jazzfan83
    April 3, 2009 7:52 a.m.

    this team still has a 46-29 record with all injurys they have had dont lose hope yet i think they will fair better then everybody seems to think in the playoffs

  • duke
    April 3, 2009 7:57 a.m.

    Is Ronnie Price injured?

  • Resistance
    April 3, 2009 8:01 a.m.

    If I had $100 for every time Kevin Harland and PJ "clear that lugie out of your throat" Carlisimo said "Right past Boozer and the Jazz with little or no resistance" I'd have made several hundred dollars last night! (And that's before I turned it off in frustration)

    The potentially best season in Jazz history since the end of the Stockton to Malone era is in full flames now. No fire department will be able to put it out.

    D-Will better than CP3? I think not. Paul doesn't turn it on and turn it off. He's in control all the time. And we're just talking about overall performance...no mention of how embarrassing all of Williams' tattoos look.

    See ya Jazz. Nice knowing ya. I can't handle the continual depression any more. I'm either switching teams to root for or switching sports.

    Jazz are P-A-T-H-E-T-I-C

  • re: Cowboy Joe
    April 3, 2009 8:04 a.m.

    Sir Charles did not say that. He said that it is not clear who's team it is. Don't put words in his mouth.

  • Dave
    April 3, 2009 8:07 a.m.

    When did Boozer decide to become a jump shooter? He stands there and poses while watching the ball clank off the rim while his man runs right by him on the way back down the court.

    Drive to the basket Carlos and use your left hand the way you used to. Use that big body and move people out of the way.

  • Snoozer vs Millsap
    April 3, 2009 8:07 a.m.

    Hey Carlos, PLEASE opt out! PLEASE? PLEASE? PLEASE?

    Millsap, make room in your bank account. You're about to take over as the highest paid power forward on the Jazz.

  • Hot Rod
    April 3, 2009 8:08 a.m.

    A gentle push, a mild arc and the old cow hide globe clanks off, again and again and again.

  • Quit Whinning!
    April 3, 2009 8:09 a.m.

    If you don't like the product, don't buy it. We still have that freedom I think. If I was a season ticket holder I wouldn't rush right out and renew. Instead I would wait to see how this team finishes the season, and what management does in the off season to fix the problems. As a viewer and a uninvested fan, just change the channel there are more than 70 to 100 to pick from. Crying and complaining on this web site will acheive nothing for you personnally. I would think you might spend your time doing something constructive that you could get some enjoyment and satisfaction from. Take your prilosec and have a nice life.

  • Jazz Oldtimer
    April 3, 2009 8:11 a.m.

    Keep Williams,Brewer,Millsap,Korver and Koufos,send the rest packing

  • Not even watchable
    April 3, 2009 8:12 a.m.

    Had to turn it off early last night, went to bed, couldn't bear to watch it.

  • PurplePeopleEater
    April 3, 2009 8:20 a.m.

    They're done. Baked. Turn off the oven!

    The Jazz are still leading the league in missed easy layups and stupid unforced turnovers. It's a comedy out there.

    To still be in a game when playing so badly shows how much more talented the Jazz are than Denver, yet you wouldn't know it because of those league-leading stats.

    Even the announcers commented on the Jazz still being in the game in spite of playing so poorly.

    I don't see this turning around.

    I DO see the Jazz facing Denver in the first round (2 vs 7).

  • RE: Jazz Rock
    April 3, 2009 8:20 a.m.

    They rock alright. A big box of useless rocks.

    Prediction: With the maddening way the Jazz have chosen to close this season out I predict the ESA next year will look like a Ute game in the Huntsman Center-Plenty of walk up tickets available at game time-pick your courtside seat.

    Larry is likely rolling over in his grave about now. Here's your chance to make your own name Greg. Overhaul, starting with the coach and don't stop until you have a team that leaves the road excuses in the suitcase and has the stones to show up and earn their money every night.

  • PurplePeopleEater
    April 3, 2009 8:21 a.m.

    Does Boozer lead the league in getting his inside shots blocked? Seems so. Doesn't have a clue about moving the ball around. Just shows it up there like a picture that invites shot blockers into heaven.

  • RE:Jazz Rock at 7:50am
    April 3, 2009 8:22 a.m.

    We sure own them at home, don't we? As I recall the last game in Salt Lake it took us overtime to survive the Nuggets. Unlike the 2 embarrassing blowouts we've endured at the Pepsi Center.

    Put a fork in the Jazz. They're done.

  • RE: Quit Whinning
    April 3, 2009 8:27 a.m.

    Or do like me and spend your time learning how to spell "whining". I don't think Prilosec will help with that ;-) Pretty tough to medicate illiteracy.

  • RE: Not even watchable
    April 3, 2009 8:28 a.m.

    Ditto here

  • remember
    April 3, 2009 8:29 a.m.

    ...how well the jazz had been playing earlier this season, with all the injuries? Slashing. Tough wins. What's the difference? Boozer's back. Seems like the players were hanging on, in hopes of getting an extra 20 & 10 from him every night. not. just boozer screaming under the basket - like he's got Touret's syndrome. he's broken whatever chemistry dwill, millsap, brewer, cj had going. Kirilenko, with all his athleticism, is dying on the vine.

    it's time for dwill to get his "animal eyes" back and take back command of his team. leave boozer & okur on the bench. bring out price, fes, and k2. team record is headed for disaster, anyway. so might as well start building for the future now.

    and choose NOT to chump. Go commando, down the wire. leave the bad energy on the bench. where it belongs.

  • Anonymous
    April 3, 2009 8:33 a.m.

    We just need to let boozer and okur walk this summer if they choose to opt out. If not, I suggest we trade boozer to OKC for the unprotected draft pick that they own from phoenix. If we trade for an unprotected pick, we want to make them as good as possible so phoenix will be taken out of the equation.

  • Greg. . .
    April 3, 2009 8:39 a.m.

    . . . you said you didn't want to screw up anything your Dad had built. News bulletin, Greg: It's screwed up -- you CAN do something now.

  • PJ Carlisimo
    April 3, 2009 8:40 a.m.

    Was it just me or did PJ Carlisimo sound the entire game like Latrell Sprewell was standing behind him with a choke hold on his neck?

    I mean really PJ, hit the cough button and clear that phlegm out of your throat before you talk. And if you can't be objective then you're better off getting fired, which seems to be your calling card.

  • re: Quit Whinning
    April 3, 2009 8:40 a.m.

    Sir yes Sir!

  • danburtreynolds
    April 3, 2009 8:41 a.m.

    All I saw was the first 6 minutes of the 2nd quarter. Here are my observations:

    D will: Stop treating the ball like a lollipop that you want everyone to taste. Especially when the defensive intensity steps up, you must treat the ball like it matters.

    Ronnie: Posessions on the road are valuable, being lazy with the ball=turnovers.

    Millsap: How does Nene beat you down the court? I don't care if he missed the layup, he still beat you.

    Boozer: Are you so worried about people thinking you don't want to win that you have to scream after every missed shot? Just shut up and hustle, that's all fans want, effort, especially on the defensive end.

    Kirilenko: You are a tremendous defender because you can recover when you get beat. Imagine how good you could be if you didn't get beat in the first place? Fight through the screen.

    Whole team: It appears all Jazz fans and coaches want to win more than you do. Show some heart and some guts, instead of finding reasons why it is ok to lose.


  • Millsap and Brewer
    April 3, 2009 8:43 a.m.

    Why was my comment not posted? I will repeat what I said. Can either of these two bozo's EVER hit a foul shot? Millsap is Shaq at the foul line and you can always count on Brewer to step up and clank one of the rim too.

  • I'd a let Millsap. . .
    April 3, 2009 8:43 a.m.

    . . . battle in the middle with Andersen. It was pretty clear to me Boozer was no match.

  • Big Money Guys!!!
    April 3, 2009 8:47 a.m.

    Deron
    Okur
    Boozer
    AK

    All our big contract go-to guys in a must-win game and what do they do? A combined 15 of 57 from the floor!!

    Deron looked like a a pouty little baby sulking through the first 3 quarters. His decision making looked like Brevin Knights. Careless turnover after turnover. Bad decision making time after time--whining whining whining to the refs on every play. He needs to grow a pair--welcome to b-ball on the road dude!!

    Okur nearly the same--sulking and pouting cause he did not get some calls he thought he should have so he retaliates with cheap fouls and puts himself on the bench. Nice!!

    Boozer? Duh, lets see..I have been blocked on point blank layups 4 times by the birdman so gee, let try THE EXACT SAME MOVE 6 MORE TIMES. I'll lay it up softly again and again and again. No, never jump into the chest of a shot blocker!! He needs to sit an watch Millsap who scored over birdman repeatedly.

    AK? Well rumor is that he blew away in the breeze after the game. Hes the size of Kate Moss.

    Nice game Jazz "stars"!!!

  • Save it Miles
    April 3, 2009 8:49 a.m.

    You show up once in 8 games and you think you have done something?

    Ya he had a decent game--try and do it back to back for a change instead of bi monthly!!!

  • ITS TOO HARD TO PLAY DEFENSE
    April 3, 2009 8:52 a.m.

    The Jazz are a bunch of pansies. We have a handful of guys who bust thier butt and the rest kill us. Korver busts his tail every minute despite not having the athletic ability of others. The Jazz have mental lapses throughout the game. Does Sloan go over game film. I coach high school ball and its real quick and easy to see where the breakdown consistently comes from when the film is broken down. The Jazz break downs always start with a B and ends with oozer. Please Opt out. Go Phoenix, with any luck we'll miss the playoffs. A fate that is the only thing that most of the Jazz players have earned through hard work this year.(or lack there of)

  • Utah worse than last year
    April 3, 2009 8:57 a.m.

    The Jazz are back peddling - worse than last year. Last year I saw a team that had heart and could play D but not this year. They look lost on the road and they give big leads at home - a recipe for either missing the playoffs altogether or bowing out in the first round.

  • WOW
    April 3, 2009 8:58 a.m.

    I wish all of you people out there would spend as much time worrying about things that actually like the economy, politics, whats wrong with our society and SOCCER, you rubes make me ill..
    Worry about stuff that we can actually fix, not a bunch of grown men (some time just Boys) that are over paid to play a simple GAME, maybe we should cut those millionaires a little slack about whether they live up to our expectations as a basketball team, and maybe we should put the same effort and passion into our society, our youth, and the bullcrap politics that little by little take our freedoms (but we really dont about those freedoms care because all we care about is whether the JAZZ Loose oh but when they WIN life is great). I read a statment above that said the the JAZZ are PATHETIC well whats PATHETIC is that people get so emotionally charged over a game.............

    GO JAZZ, did we forget the year that the went 8-12 going into the playoffs and lost in the Westren Conference finals. I DIDNT.... GO JAZZ!!!!!

  • CLOWNS
    April 3, 2009 8:58 a.m.

    Anyone listen to sports radio? That hack David Locke who berates his listeners routinely about Jazz comments said the other day that Boozer is an "average defender".

    He is nothing but shill and a parrot for the organization. He also has some anger issues but I digress.

    Anyway, Boozer routinely got beat by journeyman "Birdman" while attempting to guard him on the perimeter/paint. Now Birdman barely hangs on to a job in the NBA and is a sorry offensive player.

    Boozer 1 on 1 on Birdman on the wing. Boozer sets and the first flinch he immediately tomahawks Birdmans arm so he does not get beat because his feet are set in cement.

    A few possessions later Birdman goes right by Boozer. Boozer is literally so slow that his man is 2 steps by him BEFORE Boozer even moves his feet. Literally by the time Boozer first moves the only view he has is of his mans back on the way to a rim for the layup!!

    Ya, sounds like an average NBA defender.

    Boozer can not defend ANYONE at his position. NOBODY!!!

    His defense? TOMAHAWK THEIR ARMS BEFORE THEY EMBARRASS ME!!

  • Holtinator
    April 3, 2009 8:59 a.m.

    Who cares where the Jazz end up for the first round of the playoffs? Whoever they get will beat them. The Jazz do not know how to win on the road. Period.

  • casual fan
    April 3, 2009 9:03 a.m.

    We basically hate everybody on the team and we all think we could do better ourselves. I've been out in the snow working on my two-hand set shot myself.

  • re: wow
    April 3, 2009 9:11 a.m.

    Pot, meet kettle.

    What is worse, fans complaining about a sport or someone complaining about fans complaining about a sport.

    I hope you are the first to volunteer for Obama's Volunteer Corps. Show us the way oh enlightened one.

  • David Locke
    April 3, 2009 9:11 a.m.

    Your right about Locke being a hack. He should go back to Seattle. He's not worth 2 cents.

  • Mad Max
    April 3, 2009 9:12 a.m.

    The TNT guys were making fun of Boozers Monumental comments compared to the way he actually played.( No defense again) This guy is a fraud. He won't get as much money as he is making now when he renews. Everyone is wise to Boozer now, his lazy no defense approach has been exposed. The guy plays defense like he is wearing one of his expensive Armani suits. Good luck on max money booze and please opt out, bye!!!!

  • Time for a line-up change
    April 3, 2009 9:15 a.m.

    Useless hand-wringing from the faithful. Just admit that the Boozer-Okur experiment is a failure and put a big body -- preferably Koufus -- in the middle. At least that would have made the likes of Anthony and Nene actually have to shoot over someone.

  • D-Will
    April 3, 2009 9:18 a.m.

    At least DWill leads Chris Paul in 1 statistical category. Too bad it's turnovers. Talk all you want about the comparison but for 3 years you guys have been telling us Chris Paul fans that the Jazz made the better choice. What more do we need to see to back our position that New Orleans got the gravy from the Jazz blunder?

    Ya, ya, ya, keep talking about head to head. What does that mean? Who's an All-Star? Who's talked about in the MVP conversations? Who steps up and takes ownership of his team? On and on and on.

  • Observations
    April 3, 2009 9:23 a.m.

    The game was lost in the 2 Q. Not for lack of effort but for a lack of capability. When Okur left with fouls there was no functioning back up C. That has happened before with consistency. Okur was having a bad shooting night and is weak on defense but he was rebounding. Boozer had a horrible shooting night for at least 3 Q. Millsap shot well.

    Sloan needs to bring Koufos up and play him at back up C at least for a few minutes and see if he can do better than Boozer (last night that would have been easy). Or he needs to try Fez for 5 minutes.

    I am not a Price fan but Price needs to be tried at back up PG for a few minutes. Knight's limitations gum up the inside game.

    Sloan did play CJ a lot more and he was having a good game. What is needed is a little less bias by Sloan and just a little more flexibility.

    The veterans and Sloan's game management/rotations lost this game.

    Boozer and Okur need to practice their inside moves. Try slamming something. Jerry can't bench you.

  • FACTS
    April 3, 2009 9:27 a.m.

    No one will beat Utah at home in the playoffs except LA and SA. Can the Jazz pickup a road win? Well not against LA, SA, Portland. I think Houston, Denver, Dallas are beatable at home but will the Jazz win? Nope, the season proves the team is too young (like Portland) to beat good teams on the road.

    They need a shot blocker inside because Boozer can't defend. Plus the Jazz have NEVER been able to defend the 3 under Sloan.

  • @CowboyJoe
    April 3, 2009 9:34 a.m.

    DWill and Boozer can't make this their team because it is Jerry Sloan's team and Management wants it that way. The problems are in the management philosophy and coaching.

  • RE: Clank
    April 3, 2009 9:35 a.m.

    That lurpy, goofy white dude just got a career high in blocks off of your cry to the refs boys. As lousy as Denver played last night you still could not gain any ground. Don't worry though, you don't have Stockton or Malone but maybe David Archuleta can come sing you a song and give you some warm milk before you go nite-nite. Keep that 7 spot, we would love to slap you out of the play-offs in 5.

  • Iowa Jazz Fan 2
    April 3, 2009 9:38 a.m.

    Where is Dr. Kevorkian when we really need him??

    Jazz are terminal -- why prolong the pain -- theirs and ours?


  • Spineless
    April 3, 2009 9:42 a.m.

    This team is spineless all around:
    The coach.
    The players.
    The management.

  • Na Na Na
    April 3, 2009 10:00 a.m.

    Na na na na hey, hey, hey GOODBYE! Na na na na na na na na hey hey hey GOOOOOOOOOOOOODBBBBBBYYYYYEEEEE! The real Jazz - LOSERS!!! Give up your seed (IF you get one) to the Suns or another team - they want it more!

  • Effort
    April 3, 2009 10:04 a.m.

    Denver is a talented team. The Jazz mostly gave good effort but their limitations were obvious. The same limitations all year.

    Boozer/Okur and especially the younger players are afraid to go hard to the hoop and slam it. Sloan would have a fit. Git rid of Sloan.

    Boozer and Okur are designed to work together. Boozer is not a back up C on a bad night. Play Fez or K2 or git rid of Sloan. He has a bias against young players. They can't do any worse and Sloan knows that, but we get more of the same. Denver played along bench.

    The interior defense was bad but what else is new? Play Koufos or get a defensive coach and some defensive players. Problem is management and Sloan (make changes).

    PG play is bad. Play Price for 5 minutes so we know for sure that we don't have an adequate back up PG.

    The problems stem from Sloan's consistency in bad philosophy and management's consistency in resisting change.

    Sloan's approach to defense does not work and his offense can be disrupted.

    The problems with the Jazz are at the top.

  • todd from santa ana
    April 3, 2009 10:04 a.m.

    3 "sloanaholics" only out of 79 so far, let me keep whining, anyone laugh at me now for stating O Connor refused to make deals at deadline, even a backup center, stand pat get passed by

  • Sloan is playing Boozer
    April 3, 2009 10:08 a.m.

    in hopes that he will improve by the playoffs. Boozer needs to go practice.

    Sloan needs to put someone in who will play until Boozer practices enough to warrant playing. Also put a real back Center in when Okur goes out. The Jazz lose almost every time Okur has a bad night.

  • CP3
    April 3, 2009 10:11 a.m.

    Sorry to say it but I wish we had CP3. Love DWill to death but CP3 is leaps and bounds better than DWill. DWill has too many turnovers and can't get it done like CP3. CP3 has less talent around him but him and his team find a way to win. And the biggest goose egg around DWill............TOO MANY TURNOVERS!!! PLEASE take care of the ball!!!

  • Hanging Chad
    April 3, 2009 10:20 a.m.

    As a fan here I will pontificate.

    Another frustrating loss, though I did see a couple of positive signs. I thought CJ played very well, including on the defensive end. His energy was the best I've seen in a while. He got burned twice by Smith and Melo, but he played both pretty tough. On 3 straight possessions in the 3 Q, I believe, he shut down Melo. Melo was not a factor in the game and shot only 9-25. His length bothered Smith on a few occasions. What was ironic was that Sloan brought CJ back in the 2 Q for D reasons. Korver, AK, and Harp got torched by Smith and Melo with late closeouts. Add Booz and Okur to soft D.

    Miles and Millsap kept us in the game in the first half because the big 3 were AWOL and couldn't buy a layup all night. I swear DWill, Booz, Okur, and AK missed 12 or more layups. They were getting good shots for the most part but couldn't finish.

    Bad shooting and JR Smith being unconscious were the reasons we lost the game. Miles, Millsap, Brewer gave us a chance.

  • CL
    April 3, 2009 10:25 a.m.

    Knight has been playing terrible and Sloan just keeps putting him in there. Price would be much better. Knight can't create for himself or his teammates. Price would bring energy, hustle and someone who can create a shot at the end of a quarter or the shot clock.
    I thought the team played hard and fought,but they couldn't hit the broad side of a barn, terrrible shooting.
    I wish Sloan would give Fes or KK a chance to contribute and learn. We need there presence in the middle.

  • Old Port
    April 3, 2009 10:27 a.m.

    I still have the spazz. Go Jazz!! Hey, it could be worse; we could be Phoenix....Playoffs are a whole new season.

  • lwinidaho
    April 3, 2009 10:28 a.m.

    Keep Boozer on the bench. The team plays much better with out him.There is not the team togetherness with him on the floor.He is afraid that he is going to get hurt again and not get his BIG PAY DAY .The way he is playing he should get a big (CUT) not a raise also play Koufos and Price they might SURPRISE YOU.

  • Boozer the loser!
    April 3, 2009 10:30 a.m.

    Boozer gets the dumbest offensive fouls, and he never plays defense. Some nights players can't hit shots, but come on Boozer. You play like a little sissy on defense and foul at the worst times.

  • Jazz Cop
    April 3, 2009 10:36 a.m.

    Kirilenko used to play like Anderson, what a freaking joke the russian has become. The thought of him makes me so angry, I really can't stand him any longer. It's been forever, since kirilenko has done anything. Last night, he came out, and just played like the world owed him something. What a punk. He cries when he's not the centerpiece, who would make him a centerpiece? He gets paid more than anyone, and he showed the least interest in winning last night, a game where the jazz came out and were on point, and the highest paid player becomes the guy, his play last night was a mockery; I can't stand him, the way he came out and just went through the motions, all his crying, he should've been an actor; where's the real kirilenko?
    He has the maturity level of an adolescent, he's a grown man, but inside he's a boy; it's like he can't stand seeing the jazz win, unless he's the centerpiece, grow up kirilenko. I think I'll get one of his dolls and put it in a pink dress, or something.

  • J.R. Smith is redonkulous
    April 3, 2009 10:42 a.m.

    I was at the game, and before introductions, he was shooting (in perfect form) 3's from about 12-15 feet beyond the NBA 3 point line. I saw him shoot 4 and he made 2 and I knew the Jazz were in trouble.

  • Wow
    April 3, 2009 10:42 a.m.

    You are all pathetic bandwagon Jazz fans. I am just as frustrated as anyone, but does all of your anonymous whining help the situation? Good thing they aren't paying you all to run the team. Your emotion based arguments and rationale would have this team being turned over ever year. It is just like David Locke said yesterday...Jazz fans just need someone to hate on. It was Malone, then AK, now Boozer. I for one, will keep cheering for the Jazz and remain optimistic. It's better than the pessimism shown on these message boards.

  • Size Matters
    April 3, 2009 10:45 a.m.

    Boozer is too short to excel at his position. Sure he can put up some stats during the regular season when we play plenty of teams that don't matter.

    The only problem is that this organization I thought had plans to do something in the POSTSEASON.

    Boozer is repeated shut down by guys who are taller or who have longer arms. He is a liability when the chips are down.

    You add up all his turnovers that result in point. His poor defense that results in points by his man. His lazy blockouts where his man gets the rebound and gets another shot/possession...I seriously doubt there is a net advantage despite what he does on offense.

    The biggest thing lately is that he is no good on offense either. He becomes utterly useless filler when he is not operating at PEAK offensive performance.

    It is sad when you put a bench player in for him (Millsap) and the results both offensively and defensively improve.

    I guess it really begs the question, who really is the bench player?

    I guess the organization must feel obligated to play Booz since we are paying him 12.5 million.

    A mistake.

  • Boozer
    April 3, 2009 10:49 a.m.

    Can't jump, can't shoot and won't play defense. What else can you say. Oh, I know, he's out of shape, too!

    Trade or bench him. He is killing the Jazz!!!!!!!!

  • Mark
    April 3, 2009 10:50 a.m.

    The Jazz get caught up in physical play because they can't keep up with athletic teams like the Nuggets. Okur is a disaster and guys like Harpring and Korver coming off the bench make it easy for guys like JR Smith to do whatever they want.

  • wyoming
    April 3, 2009 10:52 a.m.

    does anyone watch boozer play defense. He doesn't even box out!!!!! then he just shoves them in the back and looks like an idiot when they call a foul on him.
    Okur is aboslutely horrible. If he is not hitting his shots he is no use to this team. Do not play him iff he is off.
    Williams is no where near an all star.
    Boozer is horrid- he will not opt out this year. We will have to trade him
    AK is the most frustrating for me. Getting blocked all the time and no defense. We need to trade him. I don't care if we get a second round pick. Just get his contract off the books.
    Brewer shows up when he wants to.
    D Will, Milsap and Korver are the only players on this team that should be kept. Every one else should be moved. Especially the high contract three. Bring in some defense. PLEASE!!!!!!

  • Disgusting
    April 3, 2009 10:54 a.m.

    Deron is supposed to be a leader? Through the first 3 quarters he acted like a rookie. Terrible decision making. CARELESS turnovers time after time. Outside of one or two plays he was not agressive taking it to the basket/penetrating.

    Late in the game Denver puts the Birdman on Deron near the 3 point line. At a minimum that is a staggering mismatch that Deron should exploit by blowing by a bigman that far from the basket?

    What does Deron do? Dribbles and wastes the clock and then passes to Ronnie Brewer on the wing who was well covered. Brewer has to launch up a contested basket as the shot clock expires.

    Wasted possession by a "veteran" PG.

    Where is the leadership?

    WEAK WEAK WEAK!!!

    Those of you whining about Sloan--give it a rest. You can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear.

    These players are all we've got. Sloan can not run a Tony Robbins seminar every 12 minutes to motivate these guys. Either they are winners or they aren't.

    We are undersized. Eiter Booz or Okur hav to go. We can't afford to have these two softies inside anymore.

  • So Sad
    April 3, 2009 10:55 a.m.

    So sad...the Jazz lose another big one. Go Spurs!!

  • LOOZER - PLEASE OPT OUT!!
    April 3, 2009 11:03 a.m.

    Let's face it...JAZZ ARE A MESS!!!

    Sick of hearing Williams and Boozer making excuses after each game! SHUT UP AND JUST PLAY!

    Saint Willams has been just awful. He's over-dribbling, not getting his team involved in the offense, shooting horribly, and throwing away the ball like it was tainted with dirt from Energy Solutions radioactive nuke plant! Am I the only one to see that???

    Boozer has NO heart!!! Let me REPEAT: BOOZER IS HEARTLESS AND GUTLESS!! PLEASE LOOZE, er Booze, OPT OUT, PLEASE - Take someone else's money and RUN!!

    And lastly, can someone on this green earth tell me why Sloan has Knight as the #2 point guard?

    The Dude, has NO game. He's awful. New nickname: Mr. Turnover. Oh, wait that's soon to be D-Will's new moniker.

    PLAY PRICE!! Dude, can't be any worse than KNIGHT!

    Somebody, anybody, show some HEART!!!!!!!

  • All you Jazz Haters
    April 3, 2009 11:10 a.m.

    What bunch of fair-weather, bandwagon "fans"! You all need some Prozac or "alternative" medication so you will just chill out and go back to your soft, mushy couches and eat some more munchies while you make your bodies & brains softer and mushier. If you can't stand by your team through good and bad then jump on the Lakers' bandwagon and leave the rest of us who love our team - shortcomings and all - alone. DWill is great and getting better. Okur is much better defender than given credit for. Booz is Booz - you know what you are getting. The rest we all know about. I am certainly frustrated but the injuries and a brutal schedule over the last 10 games is killing the Jazz. Just because everyone is back doesn't mean they are 100%. Imagine if the team had been healthy all year and the continuity and chemistry that would have been developed.
    Anyway, y'all need to relax and find something more productive to worked up about.

  • Jazz forever
    April 3, 2009 11:11 a.m.

    It is always easy to support a team who constantly plays great defense, has great heart and loves the pressure of the game. But we as fans often forget that it is when a team is down, that is when we need to really be true fans and cheer hard no matter what. That being said, there need to be some changes. Milsap, Brewer, Price, Harpring, and Korver play harder than anyone and only Brewer is a starter. If the team had the heart of Paul Milsap, they would be formidable. I wish the other players could see that, but they seem to be blind to it all.

  • Momentum Buster
    April 3, 2009 11:19 a.m.

    Twice in the 4th quarter we are making runs and looking to cut the lead below 6.

    Scenario 1

    We force Denver into a tough shot, they miss but Boozer does his usual impression of a fence post and does not block out. Birdman, Boozers man, jogs in from the wing/baseline right up and actually JUMPS up to get the rebound. Boozer, as usual oblivious to where his man is, does not block out OR JUMP for the rebound (because that would require actual effort) and the Birdman gets OUR rebound and easy put back.

    Lost possession for us and instead Denver gets 2 points. Possible 4 point swing.

    Senario #2.

    We get Okur in a position where he can actually make a shot and he does but Boozer, who has not jumped all game, now decides it is important to jump up and interfere with Okurs shot that is already going in. Take two points from the Jazz and give the ball to Denver.

    Those two scenarios alone represent an 8 point swing when we were, multiple times, only down 6 points in the 4th quarter.

    Can you see momentum busting LIABILITY!!!!

    What team can makeup for this?

  • STEVE-O
    April 3, 2009 11:19 a.m.

    I've always tried to be a positive fan. I always maintain hope that the team will catch fire. However, it's getting more and more difficult to watch a team that "for the most part" doesn't care! They really just dont care! And if they do care it doesn't show.
    Usually we fans are getting EXCITED for the playoffs, but I'm just dreading it with every day it gets closer. Sad but true.

  • re:Effort - NO EFFORT
    April 3, 2009 11:25 a.m.

    What game were you watching last night. The Jazz gave effort....really? When?

    1. When Boozer stood flat-footed as guys blew past him?

    2. When Boozer stood 25-feet out and refused to take the ball inside, settling for jumpers, which he missed all night.

    3. When Daron got lazy on D (which was the whole) game and didn't stay with his man?

    4. When Sloan refused to call a timeout and "Let's the player's play through it." Horrible!

    5. When Miles doesn't even try to get back on D as his guys slams it home on breakaway after breakaway?

    Where was the effort. The Jazz left it in the locker room with their hearts!

  • B.R.
    April 3, 2009 11:28 a.m.

    @ Miles

    I agree, is was refreshing to see C.J. show last night and have a good game. The reason is is because no one else showed up and Sloan had no choice but to unshackle C.J. and let him play without all of the restrictions that he has on him. I have watched C.J. thoughout his career and this slump he has been in is not all his fault. Sloan sticks him out on the 3 point line as a decoy in hopes of spreading the floor and opening up things for Carlos "no D" Boozer. The way Sloan has played him it has been hard for him to become involved in the offense. Standing out on the 3 point line you don't have much opportunity to get many rebounds either. I Think C.J. needs to not be discouraged and do the things he can do, such as; steals and deflections, playing defense every night like we've seen him do against some of the better players in the league. Think rebound and get into position to rebound and keep working on improving his game. I would like to see him be a big success!

  • It is worth the ticket price....
    April 3, 2009 11:29 a.m.

    to watch the clowns perform. these are the best posts I have read all season. Boozer only runs on 3 cylinders. He is finished, finished, FINISHED, FINISHED, FINISHED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    AND OKUR AND COMPANY IS NOT FAR BEHIND. D WILL IS SUFFERING FROM ACUTE FRUSTRATION. TIME TO REBUILD LIKE DENVER IS DOING.

  • re:re Clank
    April 3, 2009 11:31 a.m.

    Jazz are stinking it up right now, but..... If you think Denver can beat them in a series, bring it! The Jazz shot 35% from the floor, could not hit a foul shot, had foul trouble and did just about everything wrong and still had a chance to steal the game at the end. The Jazz would win the series in 6 my friend. Carmelo Anthony is the most over rated player in the game. He does not impact the game unless he scores and he has no defense. Billups has stunk it up each time Denver has played Utah. By the way, it must feel good as a Nuggets fan to actually win a few games. After years of being in the cellar you managed to make it to the playoffs and win a game or two or get in last year and get swept with the great AI and "Smello." The Nuggets are not for real. J.R. Smith aint doin' that every game. Enjoy your ugly victory, you guys should have won by 20 yet barely held on. Nuggs are out in the first round unless they get the lowly Mavs.

  • Jazz Cop
    April 3, 2009 11:32 a.m.

    Jazz just need to hang tough, there were some positives, they came out pretty focused and had a lead. They can't afford a player coming in and going through the motions, that's what killed the jazz last night; they lost the lead when ak came in and it was a huge drop off in intensity; and it spread to the rest of the team, first dwill, and then boozer. That laziness is like a drug, once it gets introduced, everyone seems to want some; ak, being the first one on the court who showed little interest in winning, bears the most responsibility.
    But dwill pulled out of it, and finished the game strong. Once boozer caught it, he couldn't shake it. His game just dissolved into nonexistence.
    I had a bad feeling watching kirilenko, especially the first half, like I said, he should've been an actor, he was only acting like a ball player last night.
    Millsap, brewer, and miles, played with the kind of focus the jazz needed from everyone.
    ALso, the jazz need to fix their free throw problem, that's one of the basic fundementals.

  • dwill
    April 3, 2009 11:34 a.m.

    great, and i mean great players just don't let this happen.....kobe, dwill, lebron, cp3, you name it 'will' there teams to wins....they take over games....dwill for all his greatness (and i love dwill) hasn't shown the ability to do this...until he does, we're in big big trouble...

  • Bart
    April 3, 2009 11:35 a.m.

    Way to go NUGGETS! Keep it up in the playoffs.

  • NUGGETS RULE!
    April 3, 2009 11:36 a.m.

    I was at the game last night and wanted to share my thoughts....I've been a Denver fan for 20+ years and have seen my share of Jazz-Nuggets battles.

    I can honestly say I have never seen a Jazz team play with less intensity, purpose and hustle. Not sure what to tell you Jazz fans, other than.......

    HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!

    MAYBE YOU CAN ACTIVATE OSTERTAG!! :)

    I LOVE IT!!! NUGGETS RULE - GET USED TO IT - LOOZERS!!!!

  • B.R.
    April 3, 2009 11:37 a.m.

    Correction: It was refreshing, not is was refreshing. Sorry, I'll proof read better next time.

  • Does it matter
    April 3, 2009 11:37 a.m.

    Inevitably it all comes down to the coaching. CJ Miles should come of the bench and AK should start. Utah needs more of a defensive presence to start the game which Miles doesn't provide. Obviously what Sloan has been doing isn't effective and some changes need to be made.

  • BOOZER IS A LOOZER!
    April 3, 2009 11:37 a.m.

    BOOZER HAS NO HEART, NO HUSTLE! ALL HE WANTS IS MONEY

    AND ITS GETTING OLD!! LET HIM OPT OUT AND GET HIM OUT

    OF HERE!!!

  • I could support
    April 3, 2009 11:45 a.m.

    Sloan if he would make some very minor changes.

    1. Let the players slam the ball. Don't take the fun out of the game for the fans or the players.

    2. Play the younger players when they have good match ups. Play all players according to match ups and hot hands instead of set rotations. He did play CJ more last night and that was very good. Sometimes he plays him less and that is good. Do the same to Boozer and Okur.

    3. Design and use some plays other than the PF/C plays when they result in blocked shots or TOs. The offense needs more flex.

    4. Design a defense that works. Or draft/acquire defensive players instead of just talk about defense. This is an organizational problem. Sit Boozer and Okur for lousy defense when necessary and play K2 or Fez even if it just for 5 minutes.

    5. Do something about the really bad interior defense and the bad 3 point defense.

    Sloan is an above average coach. However, some minor changes would get a lot of people off of his case.

  • CJ is Defensive Liability
    April 3, 2009 11:50 a.m.

    CJ can only play on one end of the court. He's a defensive liability who only thinks about hoisting 3s.

  • Jazz Cop
    April 3, 2009 11:51 a.m.

    Yes, CJ was a professional last night. Maybe his best game all year. He's getting better, he might be ok as long as he doesn't follow the example of laziness set by some of the other players.
    Brewer and millsap also played as well as cj; but brewer and millsap have had more games where they've played good, hopefully cj can keep it up.

  • Chukar
    April 3, 2009 11:52 a.m.

    It has become commonplace for DWill to get outplayed by the opposing gaurds and in this case Billups it was expected, but when DWill gets outplayed by CJ ????
    DWill is the only one who thinks DWill is a superstar

    PS Good game game CJ from someone who is not your greatest fan

    Cancelling plans to go to playoff games, will not be worth it!!!!

  • mercyfulf8
    April 3, 2009 11:53 a.m.

    Everybody is blaming the players, but what about the coaching? The same ineffective starting lineup keeps losing road games. Swap AK for miles for a more effective defensive presence to start games. Start Milsap in place of Boozer. Why should 2 of our better defensive players come off the bench? Wake up Sloan, and make some adjustments

  • RE:All you Jazz Haters | 11:10
    April 3, 2009 11:54 a.m.

    DWill is good and getting better huh? You sure could have fooled me. I think turnovers was the only category he lead in last night.

  • I disagree with no effort
    April 3, 2009 11:55 a.m.

    The Jazz gave effort. Otherwise they would not have been in the game as poorly as they played. If you watched the game you had to see that there was effort. BUT...Their interior defense is horrendous. They are like the Denver Broncos of the NBA NO DEFENSE. GREAT OFFENSE, NO DEFENSE! Well at least when Denver had Cutler. HA HA. The Jazz need to at least contest inside shots better than they are doing if they cannot block them. The Jazz just needed to combine effort with efficiency.

  • where is our heart?
    April 3, 2009 11:58 a.m.

    Im so sick of this jazz team. How can you be so good at home and so terrible on the road. I think the answer is we have a bunch of sally's. Boozer is a joke. I think we all thought that he would be dominate after his playoff performance two years ago, but we all forgot he has no heart and only cares about money, and no no body is going to take him off our hands and we will be paying that pud 12 mil next year. Thanks O'Conner for not trading him when he had some value. Millsap, Dwill, and Harpring seem to be the only players who seem to care. I wish the AK would be the players he can be, but it doesnt look like it is going to happen. Do we just crash and burn and go to the lottery? I dont think so, cause the chances that we will get a player that can make a difference is not a good one. To sum it up, if the Jazz were a cheese, they would be Swiss, full of holes. Get it together. GO JAZZ!

  • Fred
    April 3, 2009 11:59 a.m.

    There was no accountabilty last night.How can you have a competive team from a player standpoint when you know you burried on the bench.It dosnt work for anyone in any job.Then on other hand when coaches
    know the have job security regardless of how things go why change.Its the same old thing.
    It gets so old watching the pointguard walk the ball down put his hand out to show slow it down.
    after what got them a lead is pushing it.
    How many point would millsap score if he got to shoot as much as boozer?How can you go away from Price after how he helped a year ago?
    OH YA Knight has more years in the league that great because you dont have to guard him he is a libility.Is it not mandatory that these players lift weights?
    after all AK you should be ashamed on how strong you have became.hopefully in six games they figure it out.The diffrence of these guys and the Malone stocton years is mental and physical toughness.
    Karl would call the weak on the carpet BLESS HIM FOR THAT.


  • Memo to Deron
    April 3, 2009 12:00 p.m.

    When you're an All Star you'll get all the calls that you're whining about not getting now. Focus on the game and quit whining to the refs and perhaps your assist/turnover ratio will drop.

    You're not an All-Star, not even close. Accept that CP3 is far superior in every imaginable way and that New Orleans got the best deal by Utah taking you. Learn to accept your lot in life, that you surrounded by players who are unable to motivate themselves. Your getting big bucks and that's all that matter, right? Who needs winning and competing and proving themselves against quality opponents? You're now a MAX money guy.....look what that did to Kirilenko.....

  • re:It is worth the ticket price
    April 3, 2009 12:02 p.m.

    Denver is rebuilding? That's news to me. They just traded for a 32 year or however old he is (Chauncey Billups. They also hold the second seed in the west. Rebuilding? And the Jazz should not rebuild that is ridiculous. They may need to part ways with a couple players, but they have a good young core. They need a defensive center and another perimeter slasher, and keep either Booz or Millsap along with D Will.

  • west coast fan
    April 3, 2009 12:02 p.m.

    start milsap now dump the booz

  • My .02
    April 3, 2009 12:02 p.m.

    Snoozer, please opt out! Certainly the Jazz are smart enough to throw Greg's silver spooned inheritance in Millsap's direction instead of allowing that cancer (Loozer) to further erode the Jazz foundation.

    Maybe DWill can attend a CP3 basketball camp this summer to learn how to lead a team and not turn the ball over insessantly.

    Perhaps Greg could fund a Jazz surgery this summer. A HEART TRANSPLANT!!! He could fund it in part by stopping the purchase of tuxedos for Jazz players on the court.

  • RELAX!!!!
    April 3, 2009 12:04 p.m.

    The jazz are going to be just fine. Everyone relax and chill out! It will be #7 Jazz vs # 2 Nuggets. No way Jazz finish #8.
    They will win the road games they need to win in the playoffs. This is their pattern.

    SO RELAX!!!!!

  • Jazzguru
    April 3, 2009 12:08 p.m.

    You can all call me crazy but I am not counting the Jazz out yet. Well, let me explain that a little. They cannot beat SA or LA in the playoffs, but they can take ANYONE ELSE in the west. The Jazz are not going to lose at home to anyone unless it is LA or SA and even maybe not then. With that said, against any other west team I still think they could steal a game on the road. Call me crazy but that's the way I look at it. With that said. I think they need to get rid of Memo to go to the next level. They need a defensive center, a shot blocker, even someone like "birdman" and then get another perimeter slasher. They need to part ways with Miles, he is too streaky and seems to not be committed in the offseason. Whether they keep Boozer or Millsap, they need to keep one of them.

  • Note to Jazz Cop
    April 3, 2009 12:09 p.m.

    Please save the analysis: I can sum thing up for you: Jazz have no heart.

  • Booze
    April 3, 2009 12:09 p.m.

    I'm just afraid that as pathetically as Boozer is playing right now he's going to realize that opting out will land him in a pay cut situation and looking for a team that wants a no defense pretender. We might be stuck with the matador by way of him NOT opting out.

    Please Booze, opt out and take your heartless chest somewhere else! Millsap can do just fine without you.

    Where's all the chest pounders who were declaring the Jazz were better with Loozer starting instead of Millsap? Paul M. made Boozer look silly last night in every facet of the game. And he's a minimum money player. What irony.

  • Denver Thuggets
    April 3, 2009 12:19 p.m.

    I'm sorry. It's too bad a good guy team has to be trampled by the "Thuggets". I have been a faithful believing fan all year, but last night blew it for me. Looze the "Booz", File the "Miles" in G. Skewer the "Brewer", Stinko the "Kirilenko". no more ballin' for "Collins", Knight "No Fight". I've even lost my faith in "Williams". His Ice and killer instinct are gone. Maybe cause he's working with Boozers Loozers. Keep Milsap, Price, Fez, and Harpring & Sloan (at least they have "Heart"). I don't even care if we have a Jazz team anymore. Send The back to New Orleans to be a D-League team.

  • Overachieving Jazz
    April 3, 2009 12:20 p.m.

    I think at home Sloan is able to get the team to play at a very high level, but on the road you see what the team really is: a 7th seed destined to exit in the first round that can occasionally make it to the second round if they get a good match up. (ie Houston). If you don't believe that they are overachieving with Sloan ask yourself how many players have the jazz traded that have blossomed elsewhere?
    Why beat the team up for lack of defense when you pass up defensive players in the draft for Almond, Fes and Kufus. I think all three will have great carears in europe. Nothing personal but they are what they are.

  • D-Will
    April 3, 2009 12:24 p.m.

    Is BETTER than CP3 by a country mile. New Orleans has had a worse record than us most of the season. One "bad" game does not mean anything. I seem to recall D-Will SCHOOLING CP3 on many, many occasions while playing NO.

    Also, I would like to point out that Denver was constantly switching rotations (8 different players) on Deron, as well as double or triple-teaming him when he moved past the perimeter. They knew if you take him out of the game, Utah will struggle. Smart move.

    Also would like to point out that while CJ was guarding Melo, he pretty much shut him down, just like he did with Kobe. Melo's 9 shots were all made against Brewer or inside against Boozer.

  • RE:D-Will | 12:24 p.m.
    April 3, 2009 12:43 p.m.

    Sorry, your argument doesn't hold water. DWill might win head to head games but he's never been mentioned once outside of ignorant Salt Lake City as an MVP candidate. He doesn't lead the league in assists, he isn't an all-star, New Orleans (with less talent) is above the Jazz in seeding. The only category DWill leads CP3 in is Assist/TO ratio and he leads that in the wrong direction.

    So, you can argue for DWill all you want but paper/statistics don't lie and CP3 is the better PG. Where might the Jazz be today if they had taken the better player and not gotten into bed with a conniving Boozer pulling Cleveland's pants down around their ankles for them? We'll never know.

    But one thing we know unquestionably, CP3 is the better Point Guard. Ask anybody outside of Fairy-tale-land, Utah

  • Embarrassed
    April 3, 2009 12:46 p.m.

    I think we'd be less embarrassed in the long run if the Jazz didn't make the playoffs. I mean, we'll only be fodder for the #1 or #2 seed anyway. If only Shaq and the setting Suns could have picked it up sooner. Now we're stuck with a playoff berth and further embarrassment on the road against a good team.

  • get to the line
    April 3, 2009 12:53 p.m.

    How many free throws did Loozer attempt last night? That's right, 2. Malone would average at least 2 per quarter if not more. Loozer needs to be more aggressive on offense and not settle for jumpers all night. You aren't 37 years old yet Booz, you can take it to the rim you know. You have the left hand, remember? Something Malone never had.

  • Pathetic
    April 3, 2009 12:57 p.m.

    and sickening. Lets cut our losses and cut Boozer. His refusal to play defense, his refusal to play with any pain whatsoever is not going to cut it with Jazz fans. We've had enough of fancy suit boy. So long Booze go milk fans and owners somewhere else.

  • AK47
    April 3, 2009 1:01 p.m.

    everyone complains about boozer, but AK is worse. He is a max player that does nothing. He looks like a high school jr trying to play in the nba.

    I can't think of one skill he has which is above average for the league.

  • STEVE-O
    April 3, 2009 1:05 p.m.

    When Charles and Kenny were talking about teams that take on the personality of their stars I think he was right on. Boston follows the example of Kevin Garnett, Lakers follow Kobe, Spurs follow Duncan. Billups has changed the attitude of an entire team! Those great players get their team to take on THEIR tough personality!
    The Jazz are no different. They have taken on Boozer's personality!

  • Re: Jazzguru
    April 3, 2009 1:07 p.m.

    Keep Boozer? Do you actually believe that? You want a NON DEFENDER on our team? Whoa!

  • DWill Not The Player He Once Was
    April 3, 2009 1:11 p.m.

    I have to agree that CP3 is the better player. Not just one game, but many poor games, and it's killing us. He's trying to do to much. He's falling in love with that stutter step jump shot and needs to back to basics. Other thing that's disturbing, he's getting into the air more and more with no outlet. He ends up just chucking the ball in a certain direction ending up in a turnover. I've also noticed this season that Deron is not as confident as he once was. He's absolutely frustrated because he doesn't get any calls. That's obvious.

    I wonder is something's going on behind the scenes and there's trouble in the looker room.

    With ticket prices, so expensive, I have decided not to renew my season tickets for next year.

  • AK bb gun
    April 3, 2009 1:12 p.m.

    Whats up with Max Money AK? He doesn't look healthy at all. Dude needs to eat some beef or see a doctor. You got to watch those freebies.

  • Boozerite
    April 3, 2009 1:15 p.m.

    Stop! Stop! Stop! You really are the big band wagon fans of the west. As long as I can remember, even in the Stockton & Malone days, the Jazz have had sections of their season go this way. Lighten up. The Jazz are going through a tough identity stretch. They are trying to get chemistry with a team that has been banged up all year, and are finally getting to play together. I don't care where they end up in the standings, the Jazz will come to play in the playoffs. Western Conference finals is still not out of the question. They are much better than you give them credit for. Any loss makes all of you people crazy. The Jazz will prevail. I think the next week may surprise you.

  • POLL - Knight or Price
    April 3, 2009 1:16 p.m.

    Unscientific poll:

    Who would you have as #2 PG right now??

    Ronnie Price

    Brevin Knight

  • Hollywood
    April 3, 2009 1:16 p.m.

    Jazz really want their draft pick this year. Had we finished with one of the top 10 records, the pick would go to Minnesota via Philly (Korver trade).

    Major overhaul is needed. Keep Deron, resign Millsap, but listen to offers for everyone else. Jazz are worse since Boozer returned. Hmmm, could that be due to his non-existent defense. And when Booz is the focus of the offense, everything else suffers. Okur goes into a slump, Deron's TO's increase.

    Sign and trade for Carlos. Try to dump AK's salary.

    And yes, Sloan needs to be replaced. Greg does not have the cajones to do it openly - it would loook like he is disrespecting his father's legacy. But privately, I think Sloan could be coaxed into retirement, especially if he's admitted to the HOF this year.

  • nubbs1
    April 3, 2009 1:17 p.m.

    Ok I have an idea of how the Jazz can make the playoffs and have home court advantage for next year!......schedule all 82 games in the ESA!.....seriously though they look more mentally tired then anything...everyone of the Players have the skills and they have the system, Sloan is no slouch of a coach. but the problem is is that you can the greatest hops and skills but it takes mental toughness to execute the offense and play great defense and the jazz just look mentally and physically out of it at times....the shooting percentages both from the floor and the free throw line tell the story...incidently, these guys get paid millions and they cant hit free throws?

  • Olay!
    April 3, 2009 1:21 p.m.

    says Boozer the matador as he steps aside for any opposing player coming down the lane.

    He's really saying olay, even though it sounds like a screaming labor pain as the opposition flys past him.

    He ought to be paid based on the way he plays defense. That'd save the Jazz some money for real players like Millsap.

  • An Open Letter to Carlos
    April 3, 2009 1:21 p.m.

    Hey Carlos,

    On behalf of Jazz everywhere we want you off the team.

    How do you sleep at night, earning all that money and giving 40 (okay, maybe 43) percent every night for the Jazz. You're a slacker. You're a bad influence on the young guys. Take your game, what's left of it, and leave town.

    The Cavs survived your lack of loyalty -- and so can we. If there's any justice in the world, you'll end up in L.A. (Clippers, that is!)

  • miles
    April 3, 2009 1:21 p.m.

    one half-decent game in a month and he`s an all-star? he did very little on defense and doesn`t have a clue how to rebound,he stands out in 3 point land like a statue,he`s told to do that??? I think not,he`s worthless and needs to go

  • I think
    April 3, 2009 1:23 p.m.

    the reason Utah can't beat anyone decent on the road is because they have no confidence. As I was watching last night's game I noticed that the shots Utah usually makes at home, they couldn't knock down in Denver. It seems to me there is a huge mental block when they play on the road. The frustrating thing is they are good enough to beat most teams, but as soon as they go on the road it's like they expect to lose. I think there is still a major hangover from that debacle in Miami.

  • Idea
    April 3, 2009 1:34 p.m.

    I think Carlos, Memo, and AK should all quit and start giving fireside presentations on the afterlife...they would be perfect on the subject: they all look dead. Dead as a doornail as Dickens would say...

    "Where have you gone, Stockton and Malone, the State of Utah turns its lonely eyes to you, boo hoo hooo!"

    Carlos looks like he is in a serious daze out there - almost Shawn Bradley like.

  • 32
    April 3, 2009 1:36 p.m.

    Keep Dwill, Millsap, Price, Korver, Memo and Koufos..LET GO CJ Miles, Loozer, Kirilenko, Knight, Collins please!, that will give us enough $ to get Bosch and 1 more veteran, a nice one!

  • Hanging Chad
    April 3, 2009 1:38 p.m.

    "Jazz are pathetic", "Loozer is a cancer", "embarassing, sickening", "team sucks", "sloan is terrible coach, fire him", "so sick of this team", blah,blah,blah.

    By the vitriol of some of these posts it appears to me that some are OFFENDED by the Jazz's poor play. Well, in what way you been wronged or offended? Has Carlos vandalized your recliner? Has DWill gotten another tatoo against your wishes? Has CJ insulted your wife? On what basis are you offended? Do you pay their salary? Do they report to you?

    If you want to be offended at something be offended that our economy is in trouble and politicians are lining their pockets? Be offended that our country is flirting with socialism? Be offended that we have so much smut on TV?

    If you're personally offended by the Jazz, I say, "Get a LIFE". Be disappointed, frustrated, hopeful, desirous of improvement. Be a fan, or not. Leave the personal insults and ignorant analysis to unbalanced Rockets fans.

    If you want to invest in something, invest in your kids. It's a game. As Mr. Myagi say, "Balance, Daniel-son." ----Jazz Fan since 1981. GO JAZZ!!!

  • Defense?
    April 3, 2009 1:46 p.m.

    Okur and Boozer played NO defense.

    Wait, they NEVER play defense. Therein lies one of the major problems with the Jazz.

    To win on the road, something the Jazz has never done well, one has to play defense.

    What a shame...

  • FAN
    April 3, 2009 1:56 p.m.

    I think the problem with DWILL is frustration. He knows that winning on the road is a HUGE problem for this team and in turn I think he tries to do too much sometimes. It doesn't help that other teams know if they shut down Deron, they pretty much shut down our whole team-especially on the road.

  • re: Momentum Buster
    April 3, 2009 2:00 p.m.

    The offensive goaltend by Boozer is something that just happens. He was trying to make something happen. Memo never should have taken it in, if he kicked it back to D Will he had a stand up 3 pointer with no one within 5 feet of him. Also, I am not convinced that the shot was in. That was an unfortunate break. At least that showed hustle and trying to make something happen.

  • dan
    April 3, 2009 2:05 p.m.

    that game last night disgusted me, the only one showing any kind of effort was millsap. Why can't our starters step up a little?

  • Bill Dalew
    April 3, 2009 2:07 p.m.

    I would give anything to see Boozer opt out, not get any offers close to what he's making now, miss half the season because he's waiting for a good offer, then finally sign with clippers for a quarter of what he's making now. Because that's what he's worth.

  • Jazzguru
    April 3, 2009 2:09 p.m.

    Anyone who says that New York and Philly have tough fans have not lived in Utah. I lived in Jersey and outside Philly and I think Jazz fans are right there with them. Jazz fans are over the edge though. They scrutinize everything Boozer does. Millsap can step up and miss 15 foul shots and he gets a pass from the fans, or he can try and dunk it against the Heat and blow the game, yet it is always Boozer's fault. I love Booz and Millsap they are both quality players. Jazz fans need to support their team and deal with changes in the offseason!!!!

  • RE: Hanging Chad
    April 3, 2009 2:09 p.m.

    Based on the fact that you cite so many comments I would say you are reading too much - and you're telling us to get a life?! lol

    And BTW: Yes, we fans do pay the salary of the Jazz players - and in such a case we have earned (or at least paid the price for) the right to make such comments.

    Sorry you do not like the first amendment.

  • Bill Dalew
    April 3, 2009 2:24 p.m.

    Another thing, why is it that every Jazz fan on the earth can see Ronny Price is a million times better than Brevin Knight except Jerry? Can we all get together and storm one of the Jazz practices to protest sometime?

  • RE:Hanging Chad
    April 3, 2009 2:25 p.m.

    Well, la-t-da. In fact, yes, with my season ticket I partly pay the salary of Loozer, the point guard not as good as CP3 and all the other no shows, so I believe I'm entitled to voice my opinion in any fashion I like.

    So, while you continue on along the primrose path to mediocrity I, along with most other Jazz fans want accountability, from the top down. I've earned that right by continuing to pay increased ticket prices year after year so that these babies could war diamond studs and gawdy ugly tattoos.

    Any other occupation (the military excepted) if you don't step up and earn your pay you get your walking papers. Boozer should walk and the rest of the buffoons should take notice and start to earn their pay also, from O'Connor to Sloan to Boozer and on down.

    I'm not even going to the game tonight. I gave my tickets away. I'm too embarrassed after Portland and Denver to even ask for money for them. I'll bet dollars to doughnuts they lose tonight too. There isn't any fight left in the pathetic few who should lead!

  • My two cents
    April 3, 2009 2:42 p.m.

    Im not here to bag on the jazz like the rest of you bandwagoneers, just here to say what could help.
    1- Have Ronnie Price be the back-up PG. He may not score in bunches, but he is an outstanding hustler and plays tough D
    2- Put in DWILL, AK, Memo, Korver and Brewer in the entire 4th quater
    3- use Harpring more, He has always showed guts and toughness and can hit that 15 footer any day.
    Have book start but only play 25 minutes a game


    Anyone agree?

  • Hanging Chad
    April 3, 2009 2:43 p.m.

    Re: Hanging Chad

    Oh, you have the right to say whatever you want. Have a nut. I'll defend your right to sound uninformed any day.

    I'm asking for some to try to keep some perspective. You can "fire" Sloan, Booz, CJ or whoever else by supporting some other team or canceling your season tickets. I'm sure that will "show them". No one is forcing you to watch the woeful Jazz. I'm just saying, don't take it as if they've offended you personally until you can prove you actually sign their paychecks.

    If this is Greg Miller responding, good luck to you.

  • STEVE-O
    April 3, 2009 2:46 p.m.

    The Jazz esentially had this exact team (at least the core players) for the last three years. What's the difference this year? They had a little more success last year on the road against good teams. They went to the Conference Finals two years ago and have digressed from there. I see two major issues
    1- As much as I hate to admit it the Jazz still miss Derek Fisher's leadership and toughness. The guys seemed to rally around him and get fired up. Now there's nobody to calm guys down when the wheels start coming off the bus.
    2- Guys are looking out for themselves. Stats, money, notoriety! That's what these guys LOVE. There's no team continuity because these players choose themselves first.

  • Chukar
    April 3, 2009 2:53 p.m.

    RE-- RELAX
    I hope they do get the 7th seed, I think the Jazz can beat Denver, but something has to change between now and then, and that is not very long, and it starts at the top and rolls down
    Coach--DWill,Boozer--Okur, AK--Role players

    CMON JAZZ pull your heads out LETS GO

    PS Interesting to see how Phill Jackson coaches tonight

  • Evidence
    April 3, 2009 2:59 p.m.

    Sloan has nothing to lose by playing Price, Koufos and Fez for a few minutes. The Jazz are losing and most fans are rightly blaming him for doing the same old dog show.

    I would like to see evidence that Okur, Boozer and Knight are really better than playing Koufos, Fez or Price when the vets have a bad night. Show me the results.

    Adelman has had just as many injuries to deal with and he is coach of the month. I think the Jazz could get more out of Adelman or maybe even Avery Johnson or Alvin Gentry than they are getting out of Sloan right now.

    Show us Koufos, Fez and Price deserve to ride the bench and it is not just your bias.

    You have nothing to lose (you are losing anyway). If they can't play better than your beloved veterans did in the last 2 games then we will start blaming KOC and Rigby for not giving you the players you need.

    Show us you are right and not just difficult. You are losing anyway. You are losing the fan base. Half of them already hate Boozer and know Okur is erratic.

  • Jazz drop a big game?
    April 3, 2009 3:05 p.m.

    Surprise! Surprise!

  • Rufus bean
    April 3, 2009 3:09 p.m.

    JAZZ SUCK ON THE ROAD!!! They could play any team in the NBA at home and I feel confident that they would most likely win. But the second they leave salt lake city, no matter who they are playing, I'm not confident at all. They play soft, the energy is hardly ever there, and they almost always shoot worse than they do at home

  • Jazz doubter
    April 3, 2009 3:14 p.m.

    MARK MY WORDS! The Jazz will never win an NBA championship until they get a legitimate low post threat. Boozer and Okur aren't getting it done its that simple

  • Better Win
    April 3, 2009 3:29 p.m.

    PHO has 2 difficult games out of 7. The Jazz have one easy game (LAC) out of 7. The Jazz can still be out of the play offs and could easily be the 8th seed.

    In spite of bad coaching and last nights game, I think the Jazz may have a 50/50 chance of beating DEN in a 7 game series in the first round if they can get the 7th seed.

    The Jazz have not really been the same team since they lost Fisher. PG is the most important position and they have to have a very good back up PG. Also since that year, AK and Boozer have gotten worse. Millsap and to some extent Okur have gotten better. KK is an improvement. Brewer has gotten better.

    Over all this team should be better but it is not.

    In the off season a PG upgrade is essential. Usable depth at PF/C is mandatory. It does not matter how good Koufos or Fez are if they are not used.

    The sad thing is that Sloan has shown no ability to fix the glaring problems with this team. Ditto for management. The problems are at the top.




  • My Vote
    April 3, 2009 3:58 p.m.

    Ronnie Price, Fes, and Koufos. They all three should have been playing all along. It totally baffles me why they haven't. Sloan talks defense, then turns around and plays players that act like they don't even know what it is.( Boozer, Knight, and Okur )Why does Collins have a roster spot and why is Koufos in the D league? When ever Okur and Boozer come out and won't play defense they should be immediatly benched. Let some fresh new blood have a chance. The fans don't like the effort on defense that we are seeing. Price over Knight, is a no brainer, awaken Jerry.

  • SnagglePuss
    April 3, 2009 4:05 p.m.

    Jazz! Go Back To New Orleans! We want the STARS back! We want Ron Boone & Zelmo Beatty! Not Loozer and AK!

  • #2 Nuggets
    April 3, 2009 4:16 p.m.

    HA HA Jazz Suckas! We are on the top of the division looking down at you freaking heartless losers. You fans are a bunch of idiots, you should've known that this was going to happen last night, your overrated players and point can't hang with the big boys. I just find it humurous all of the crap you guys were talking before the game and now look at you all sitting here crying like a bunch of babies. I though last night was going to be a better game, but I guess that my impressions on the Jazz actually being a good team this year were just a fluke. Like I said you guys have a bunch of overrated players. I beleive you guys could have one of the best teams in the League but nobody cares at all about winning, just wanting to look good for themselves. So have fun getting wasted by the Lakers in the first round while we do a good job at representing. LOSERS, ha ha ha ha. Nuggets rule! Carmelo for MVP!!!!

  • Interesting
    April 3, 2009 4:17 p.m.

    The one night all year CJ shows up and no one else does... Why is that? I hope the Jazz don't resign Boozer! He is pathetic- Use the money to get someone with heart, who plays some defense, and doesn't spend most of his career behind the bench! The jazz really missed the boat- I think they had the peices to trade for Garnett when Boston got him but we chose to keep the amazing "Boozlander" if only looks could kill- we got the best dressed PF in the league! yay

  • RE:Jazzguru | 2:09 p.m.
    April 3, 2009 4:21 p.m.

    One slight difference that blows your Snoozer/Millsap comparison out of the water. $$$ Tell me how much Loozer gets paid and then tell me how much Millsap makes. Add to that the effort that each puts forth and you'll see how utterly silly your comparison is. At least Millsap fouls out trying to play defense. Yes, he needs to make free throws and yes he was a contributer to the Miami fiasco. But when you consider paychecks there's no comparison to expectations. "Where much is given, much is expected."

    Loozer, PLEASE opt out!

  • Boozers a loser
    April 3, 2009 4:24 p.m.

    He doesnt try he complains and he is getting huge money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Dell Mackie
    April 3, 2009 4:31 p.m.

    jazz are worse than sacromento

  • D-Will
    April 3, 2009 4:31 p.m.

    Has anyone seen D-Will lately? I think I saw him for a few minutes at the end of the game, but other than that I couldn't see him all night. Oh yeah that's right, he waits until it is too late and then he comes out and is aggressive and tries to take over. Wow could you guys imagine how good this team would be if No Guts No Glory played all minutes like he does the last 3?

  • Jazzguru
    April 3, 2009 4:34 p.m.

    Hold on a minutes RE: JAzzguru. I am not bagging on Millsap. So you are telling me because Millsap does not get a phat check he is allowed to make a stupid decision and miss foul shot after foul shot and it is ok because he does not make as much as Boozer? Where is your logic there? Then why not bag on AK, he gets the most money on the team and where has he been? How about Memo? Memo is the worste defender the Jazz have, not necessarily one on one defense, but he NEVER rotates. He is horrendous on the pick and roll. I love Millsap and I was not taking any shots at him, but it is lame that Jazz fans bag on Boozer for everything. Flat out stupid. I wish Booz played better defense too but I do not understand why he is always the goat. I love D Will, but man he has turned it over a lot lately, yet somehow it is still Booz fault. Wow, just another dillusional Jazz fan!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Jazzguru
    April 3, 2009 4:40 p.m.

    Attention all Jazz fans:

    Brevin Knight does not make as much as Deron Williams so it is ok if he turns it over like he always does, or bricks a shot, hey at least he is trying. It's also alright that CJ Miles cannot guard my 90 year old grandma because he does not make as much as AK, so it's AK's fault that Miles is a terrible defender. WOW is all I have to say. We have some really dillusional Jazz fans. Like I have always said, we have the most passionate fans, but we also have the most ignorant fans too. Wow, I am still shaking my head over that last comment by RE: Jazzguru. If Boozer was clankin' free throws as much as Millsap or got stuffed by Jermaine O'Neal like Millsap did, Boozer would be strung up by Jazz fans, but since Golden Boy Millsap made the stupid decision to take it up and the cost us the game, it is ok. Especially since, ya know, he does not make that much. That makes it ok. Again I love Millsap, but SOME Jazz fans never cease to amaze me.

  • re:D Will
    April 3, 2009 4:45 p.m.

    I disagree with you baggin' on the best pg in the league BUT I give you credit for calling him out for not performing instead of pinning it on Boozer. D Will does need to pick it up. I wonder if he had more freedom if he would just dominate games!

  • D Will
    April 3, 2009 4:55 p.m.

    I think you hit it on the head. I wonder how much of it is Sloan holding him back and telling him to be a PG and find others first. I wonder if by the end of the game is just sick of the game plan and says I am taking over.

  • another jazz oldtimer
    April 3, 2009 4:58 p.m.

    I though when carlos boozer returned that we would pick it up and make a dash for first place , but I have finally come to the conclusion that carlos is afraid to play with the big dogs, he will not get into the thick of things, he will not plug up the center,and all the teams know that, so they just waltz down the middle and score without any interferense. kinda like the bride walking down the aisle at her wedding. the jazz are to inconsistent. they just don't have the heart,nor do they have a good solid leader to keep them enthused . if all those millions are not inspiring them, then it's time for a drastic change.....from top to bottom.

  • Fat Fred
    April 3, 2009 5:06 p.m.

    I can't find him. Were is our Power forward. We have a soft Wissy!

  • todd on "fact or fiction"
    April 3, 2009 5:42 p.m.

    The story today is entitled "fact or fiction"

    Fact: Jerry Sloan is an inflexible coach.
    Fiction: It is not his fault with the players he has.

    Fact: Kevin O' Connor Refused to improve the squad
    Fiction: That David Locke is not a Jazz cheerleader.

    Fact: Jerry's assistants are clones and all in one.
    Fiction: They have minds of theyr'e own

    Fact: Carlos complains, smiles when called on foul
    Fiction: That he is trying his best

    Fact: Deron Williams is developing attitude.
    Fiction: He does not wait until last minutes to get
    serious and showing desperation to win.

    Fact: Okur and Boozer wave at defenders like flies.
    Fiction: That Sloan cannot teach proper defense.

    Fact: Sloan philosphies "pack paint" worthless
    when no interior resistance

    Fiction: Sloan good developing young players

    Fact: Sloan is stubborn playing Knight,start CJ
    Fiction: Jazz players road confidence

    Fact: That same teams that post people right as
    superior athletically look reverse at ESA

    Fiction: The Jazz are not as talented as other

    Fact: Knight off the bench/Miles Start
    Fiction: Will be different tonight under Phil

    Fact: 10 percent SLoanaholics will defend and
    criticize us for differing opinions

    Fiction: Avery/Flip not better

  • All together now. . .
    April 3, 2009 5:44 p.m.

    . . . repeat slowly after me. NBA basketball is entertainment, nothing more, nothing less. There, now doesn't that feel better?

  • id jazzfan
    April 3, 2009 6:01 p.m.

    Quit trying to pad your rebound stats and but the ball in the hole!!!!! Two hands on the ball...bend your knees and jump. Slam the ball in the big round iron thing with a net hanging from it!!!! These wussy little floaters and poor excuses for lay ups are pathetic. I have never been so frustrated watching a game.... okay maybe the Portland game. Btw... what game were the refs watching???

  • Putar
    April 3, 2009 6:23 p.m.

    Keep:
    Deron Williams, Paul Milsap, Ronnie Brewer, Kyle Korver, C.J. Miles, Kyrylo Fesenko, Kosta Koufos, Ronnie Price, Maybe Mehmut Okur if he starts playing defense.

    Dump for whatever we can get in return: Carlos Boozer (No D,), Andre Kirilenko (lunger,weak), Matt Harpring (he tries), Jarron Collins, Brevin Knight.

  • Turtle
    April 3, 2009 6:33 p.m.

    From here on out we need defense. Leave turtle on the bench.

  • Bring the Passion
    April 3, 2009 6:34 p.m.

    I didn't even read the comments, so this is probably redundant, but I think it is now obvious that Boozer has no heart to play basketball with Malone-Stockton-Jordan-Pippin-Miller-Magic-Bird-Kobe-Lebron-Howard-Wade-Duncan-Hakeem-Dwill-Paul-Nash type of passion and commitment. There are tons of players with less talent that play, or have played, with that level of commitment as well (Sloan, Fischer!!!!!!, Milsap, Hill, Bowen, Birdman, Hamilton, Prince, Harpring, Price, Korver, Ginobli, Vujacic, Walton, Corbin, MWilliams, an so on). Boozer will never EVER fall into this category. Either he can't (because he doesn't work on his quickness - ergo lazy), or won't play defense. EVERY game, he lumbers slowly up the floor on defense, then lumbers back down on offense. Until this guy leaves, and the other players on the ENTIRE roster start exhibiting the kind of passion demontrated by the greats and not-so-greats who bring it every night, the Jazz have no chance at excellence.

  • todd "shocking"
    April 3, 2009 6:36 p.m.

    No I will not be satisfied if we beat the Wolfies tonight. See me after a road win will talk..By the way "shocking" Dallas and Portland are winning without much issue. Dallas remaining schedule "hee hee" how easy. The Lakers are waiting. Good job guys.

  • IVAN
    April 3, 2009 6:46 p.m.

    You all should be excited you"ll be praising the the
    Big blue tommorrow.Its good its the only game in town. Why do some say Boozer is a Allstar. He WAS a allstar That term does"not go with you forever.
    Get it right.Boozer WAS an olympion.All Coach K did was have him on because of the friendly association.
    He couldnt play him he was a defensive liability.
    All of the subs tonight will be by the clock look at the minutes played after it will be the same as usual.Phil can coach but he cant go outside the realm because it woul make sloan look Bad.

  • magnus
    April 3, 2009 6:53 p.m.

    wow, 191 comments. I think it is funny really, when the Jazz were doing well these boards rarely broke 50.

    It's getting cold on the badwagon, to many fairweather fans jumping off.


    Being realistic and dissapointed about your team is one thing, berating their every failure and misstep is something else.

    I am hugely dissapointed in what I am seeing from teh Jazz right now, honestly I expected much better, but this is still my team and I still think they can make some noise before it's all said and done.

    They are better than they are playing right now, and they are certainly better than the Debbie Downer fans think they are.

    Lets go JAZZ!!!

  • AK Fan
    April 3, 2009 7:07 p.m.

    I read all post and comments. I guess for you people so named Jazz fan better off Jazz. Relocate Jazz is best solution no more headache, hatred and save money on season ticket. Why Jazz losing...I think Sloan lost his team. Jazz just quit.

  • todd from santa ana
    April 3, 2009 7:13 p.m.

    magnus i thought you were a season ticket holder, what you "stop believing" kidding cheese...by the way i do owe you an apology. You have been much more critical and opinionated these days. Maybe you should have coached tonight, you could not do worse.

  • Now hear this Magnus
    April 3, 2009 8:05 p.m.

    these are repeated failures we are speaking of..repeated failures. It comes down to character and if a player does not have it, Well what then.
    It won't take much to correct the situation just some discipline. if they don't perform, bench them. There is a desire on the part of some to get in there and do their job so let them play Coach Sloan, you may find out you have some winners, consistent like winners are. Then, go from there. What have we got to loose?

  • Anonymous
    April 3, 2009 8:29 p.m.

    Why is Ronnie Price not our backup point guard again? Oh, it's probably because Brevin knight hasn't been injured yet. Remember how the team improved when Hart got injured last year and Sloan was forced to use Price? He needs to do the same this year. Price is better than Knight!

  • todd from santa ana
    April 3, 2009 8:39 p.m.

    there is one piece of good news tonight, amidst the Jazz struggling to beat the horrible Wolfies. Dallas lost

  • Re: Todd from Santa ana
    April 3, 2009 9:07 p.m.

    Not exactly sure how that is good news. If the Jazz make the playoffs, they will get blown out. They can't even keep a lead against Minnesota. This team isn't going anywhere.

  • todd from santa ana
    April 3, 2009 9:27 p.m.

    Ok optimists, let me hear you. please i dare you. Actually do not waste the time of the intelligent fans.

  • Jazz
    April 3, 2009 9:29 p.m.

    are a lousy team ... Can't even beat Minnesota, at home, in a critical game at the end of the season. Playoffs or not, these guys are done.

  • todd from santa ana
    April 3, 2009 9:34 p.m.

    i am going to hold in my emotions. I do not care to, but the backlash I will get if I do not. Oh well. I am going to save it and let other vent. I will say tonight told me all I needed to give me an idea of next season who should be here, and who should not. I would like to say goodbye to Boozer and Okur unless Okur moves to #4, Miles, Knight (worthless), Collins. Keep most others, bring in new leadership, get a center and we might have a good future. Never guard the "3" Boozer missing 1,000 layups. DO NOT THINK OUR VOICES ARE NOT HEARD, LOOK AT NOSHOWS TONIGHT AND BOOS THAT BOOZER GOT. They DESERVE THIS., THINK GUYS ON YOUR FLIGHT TO THE CRESCENT CITY.

  • Johnson is actually
    April 3, 2009 9:39 p.m.

    a worse coach than Sloan. Okur was playing well but he sat. Millsap got it going but Boozer got most of his minutes. Boozer hit one shot all night did little rebounding and there was no defense as usual.

    I am not a Boozer hater but Boozer is destroying this team. Mainly because the coaches (if you can call them that) insist on playing him when they should not.

    Boozer should play 10 minutes unless he demonstrates that he will help instead of be a lead weight around this team.

    Miller I am going to root for SA and HOU in the playoffs. The Jazz are bad and you won't fix the problems. Stop wasting my time. Your team is a joke and the coaches are the problem and your management are the problem.

    I am fed up with the stupidity.

    Koufos can play better than Boozer. WE ALL KNOW IT.

    THE JAZZ are a JOKE. Huntley blames the players. Nonsense, it is the game management.

  • Jazz Lose
    April 3, 2009 9:50 p.m.

    It's official, in case any one still had hope in this horrible team, the Jazz don't deserve to make the playoffs.

    Can you say, bye bye season tickets!

  • with such a tough schedule
    April 3, 2009 9:56 p.m.

    to end the year, and with such lousy play, the Jazz wll be fortunate to make it into the playoffs. I hope they do and I'd be happy to see them take number 8 seed against the Lakers.

  • the Mailman
    April 3, 2009 10:15 p.m.

    The Denver game was always a certain loss and i missed the game today but really was not surprised at all..

    The Jazz are playin like a team with no spirit, no passion, thats what it comes down to.

    They know they have no chance in the post season and can not win on the road..they really are just going through the motions. It is sad becauuse there is so much talent on this team, and i think that is what is frustrating a lot of fans out there.

    Got to agree that the Booze is stinkin it up and Millsap should be playing more minutes but hey, its not his job to decide..