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Gore and LDS leaders meet

Former v.p. engages in brief discussion on global warming while in Salt Lake

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  • You know...
    April 2, 2009 1:09 p.m.

    to get his "message" out to all of us members at one time.

  • lost in DC
    April 2, 2009 1:37 p.m.

    what a waste of time this story was, didn't say anything.

  • Why are you all so angry?
    April 2, 2009 2:04 p.m.

    Ok, let's pretend for a second that you're right and the scientists are wrong. You win: there is no such thing as global warming.

    Even if that's true, why would you be so upset at what the global warming activists are pushing for? They want less pollution, more greenery, and more open space. Global warming or no global warming, those are all good things. Unless you enjoy things like smog and inversion, that is, which I'm guessing you don't. So what is there to get so angry about?

  • Man-E-Faces
    April 2, 2009 2:11 p.m.

    These are all great men. I'm sure they're having an important meeting.

  • Cats
    April 2, 2009 2:14 p.m.

    Very interesting. The First Presidency will be very polite, cordial, kind and warm. They'll listen to what he has to say and that will probably be it.

    No amount of lobbying on Gore's part will affect whatever position the Church takes on anything. The Church will set it's own position on any issue that it deems important to set a position on.

    That's it...plain and simple.

  • Private Jet
    April 2, 2009 2:16 p.m.

    So will Al Gore fly into SLC on a private jet and out on the same? At what cost of fossil fuels and cost to the environment?

  • SJ
    April 2, 2009 2:19 p.m.

    Ponder this, Al Gore requests a meeting with the First Presidency but ignores his fellow climate-control advocate, Governor Huntsman. That's odd!

  • WOW
    April 2, 2009 2:26 p.m.

    This is a tough crowd of readers ! LOL

  • CP
    April 2, 2009 2:40 p.m.

    That's cool, I like Mr. Gore and the fact that he cares about the Earth, most people close their eyes about Global Warming and what it's doing.And it looks like "Cry Repentance" falls into that catagory cause Al Gore isn't misleading anybody about Global Warming, IT'S REAL!!!! And I think it's great that he wants to meet with the First Presidency.

  • xsync
    April 2, 2009 2:47 p.m.

    Their messages are not too different: the world will be destroyed if we don't change the way we live.

  • BYU Law Student
    April 2, 2009 2:48 p.m.

    These comments are incredible. Way to go people. Way to go. You show him...

  • Anonymous
    April 2, 2009 2:51 p.m.

    He's a child of God, too.....

  • Anonymous
    April 2, 2009 2:54 p.m.

    Christ died on the cross taught us you will suffer for teaching truth. People will mock you. It was Christ wh0o said be like the child. A child hasn't been corrupted by greed.

    You are a great American and a positive role model for kids. I know, with your wealth, you could hang out doing anything you want. You put telling the truth above personal just like I expect from a son of a senator who made the choice to serve in the army in Vietnam when others went AWOL from the national guard or used there family's wealth to get deferments.

  • If he's interested in economics,
    April 2, 2009 2:56 p.m.

    Maybe someone told him about the welfare system of the church.
    Be a good time to learn about food storage, self reliance, etc.
    For all of us, really!

  • Fresham
    April 2, 2009 2:57 p.m.

    Well, it should prove to be a compelling meeting. I'm just thrilled to have such big name people to my lil' ole' Utah. Fer heck sake.

  • Liberty
    April 2, 2009 3:17 p.m.

    Thankfully, the above Desnews bloggers will not be the ones who meet with the former VP. The First Presidency has much more intelligence, charity, class and wit.

  • Albert
    April 2, 2009 3:31 p.m.

    Is this the same Al Gore who killed half of the Tennessee forest to build a wrap around log porch on his incredibly expensive electric mansion?

  • I Love GLobal Warming
    April 2, 2009 3:32 p.m.

    the climate here in Vernal is just too cold for my liking. If we warmed it up a bit, I might can grow items from the seed catalog in "Zone 5" as opposed to "Zone 3."

  • KJ
    April 2, 2009 3:40 p.m.

    To all the Global Warming Zealots, the question isn't whether Global Warming is real. It is (at least in the last few years). The question is whether man did anything to contribute to it and whether man can do anything to stop it.

    Clearly, not polluting and not wasting energy are good things regardless of global warming. What isn't good is creating a new world order and spending billions of dollars to combat something that we probably have no control over at the expense of other things than we can control (i.e., feeding the hungry, clothing the naked).

  • tennessee resident
    April 2, 2009 3:40 p.m.

    Al Gore kept his lights on during earth hour last Saturday night. I thought he was big on global warning. He does not practice what he preaches

  • WOW
    April 2, 2009 3:48 p.m.

    That is all I have to say...

  • Idaho
    April 2, 2009 3:52 p.m.

    I think some church members thinks that you need to be a Replibucan to be saved. I think they are confused? Pleassssse try to be a little bit more open-minded.

  • Aaron
    April 2, 2009 3:52 p.m.

    Yeah Global Warming is real alright, it's caused by the sun's galatic rays and how they interact with cloud formations. NOT CO2. CO2 is not a driver in climate, clouds are and the types of clouds that form determine our climate along with orbital rotations and the earths axis. CO2 rises and falls with temperature, it doesn't cause the temperature to rise or fall, just the opposite.

  • Colleen
    April 2, 2009 4:08 p.m.

    I can't stand Gore because of his arrogant attitude during the promoting of his film. I also am disgusted that he won the Peace Prize instead of the woman who smuggled jewish children out of the ghetto's during WWII. He won because he put together a power point?!!!

  • EM
    April 2, 2009 4:12 p.m.

    Totally agree with "Here's Why I'm Angry". It's another way government takes from the masses. I went out a long time ago and bought the good old regular light bulbs - my 2 year supply! Right back at you - put that in your global warming pipe and smoke it Al Gore!!

  • Lovin' the DesNews
    April 2, 2009 4:15 p.m.

    These comments are what brings me back here. There's not another group of readers like you all. Congrats.

  • Anonymous
    April 2, 2009 4:24 p.m.

    Gore... Gore... Hey! Isn't that the guy that invented the internet?

  • You're right...
    April 2, 2009 4:34 p.m.

    ..the reason that the World War II holocaust woman didn't get a Nobel Prize for things she did in the 1940s was because Al Gore put together a documentary in the 2000s. No other intervening events there, just her and Al Gore.

  • I also say WOW!
    April 2, 2009 4:39 p.m.

    Who would have known that the Des News forums had so many experts that could set us all straight on the farce/conspiracy that is Global Warming!!

    Maybe you should all get together and publish your findings in peer-reviewed scientific journals to counter the ever increasing consensus that Global Warming is indeed happening, and we (humans) are having an impact.

    Can't wait!!

  • Colleen
    April 2, 2009 4:56 p.m.

    Al Gore is a great man performing an important service for the well being of all the people of the world. He is like mother Teresa giving of himselve.

  • Action
    April 2, 2009 5:02 p.m.

    We believe in being honest, true...and doing good to all men (This includes Gore)... Admonition of Paul...If there is anything praiseworthy or of good report..We seek after these things.

    Love your neighbour..Isnt the environment our neighbour? We should respect it too.

  • Welcome to Utah
    April 2, 2009 5:03 p.m.

    Mr Gore,
    Welcome to Utah. Many of our brothers and sisters, children, and parents have fought hard for this country. You will find people from all walks of life and all types of backgrounds. The large majority care about their friends, neighbors, country, leaders, and the earth. We have some of the best God created earth in the world. I hope you enjoy your visit.

  • LDS 'green'??
    April 2, 2009 5:28 p.m.

    Seems to me that on concept the church should be in complete agreement with Mr Gore. Don't LDS also believe in taking care of God's earth? What I don't understand is why does the church not say more and encourage it's members to be more 'green'. How much will be said in conference this weekend about members trying to be environmentaly friendly. Hmmm?

  • green mormon
    April 2, 2009 5:29 p.m.

    maybe this will help some mormon utahns get over themselves and realize that what gore teaches about the earth DOES correspond with what's in the D&C. the whole concept of "be good to the earth and it will be good to you" or "multiply and REPLENISH the earth." sound familiar? once again, we are reminded (as stated in the article) that political parties and religions are SEPARATE. just cuz you're christian doesn't mean your republican.

    i am suprised that mormons are NOT leading the whole "save the earth" movement that is going on right now. after all, it IS Gods gift to us. isn't it just, maybe, sorta, kinda, our responsibility to treat is as such?

  • Good deal
    April 2, 2009 5:34 p.m.

    It is nice that Gore will meet with the LDS first presidency.

  • Aaron
    April 2, 2009 5:45 p.m.

    Multiplying and replenish the earth goes against the Green Movement. One of the top scientific advisors in Obama's said the earth was over populated. So no more multiplying.

  • GSL
    April 2, 2009 5:51 p.m.

    Gore did not technically win an Oscar. The documentary filmmaker won the award; Gore just took credit for it. Just checking your facts for you, Lisa.

  • Jeanie b.
    April 2, 2009 5:52 p.m.

    The earth is our stewardship. That is taught in Mormon doctrine. What I disagree with is the unspoken message that mankind is essentially aparasite on earth.

    The earth was made for us and we are commanded to take care of it and use it with wisdom, not apology.

    Could we cut down on our consumerism? Absolutely. Would the earth be cared for better if we did? Absolutely.

    Nevertheless, I do not feel that Al Gore has done a whole lot of good. Nothing he said outweighs what I have been taught for 40 years anyway.

    And really, some of these comments are just halarious!

  • Temple Square participated!
    April 2, 2009 5:54 p.m.

    Even Temple Square turned off unnecessary lights last week during the "Earth Hour".

    What is wrong with turning off lights, combining errands in the car, mass transit etc.

    I don't understand all the bitter comments.

  • Too many LDS miss the point
    April 2, 2009 6:06 p.m.

    According to the scriptures, all of the animals, including man, were told to "multiply" within their spheres. Only man was made steward over the whole earth and told to "replenish" it. "Replenish" means to put back into it what we take out - to fix it up - to make it whole. If all man does is multiply, then he's just another animal. It's only when he takes care of the planet (or talent, if you will), and returns it to its rightful owner better for his having had it, that he is better than the other creatures. If he doesn't - if he just continues to "break it in" and "wear it out," then he (we) will have to answer for being "a slothful servant."

  • this is great
    April 2, 2009 6:12 p.m.

    whats wrong with Gore wanting to talk to the church? and whats wrong with the church listening? i think its great. We should treat the earth better and LDS people should know that, being that we believe its a creation and blessing of our savior. Gore maybe knows that and would like to increase our efforts in these areas. that would be a good thing i think. nothing wrong with being more aware and less wasteful.

  • Being a parasite isnt always bad
    April 2, 2009 6:16 p.m.

    Jeanie b.,

    "The earth is our stewardship. That is taught in Mormon doctrine. What I disagree with is the unspoken message that mankind is essentially aparasite on earth."

    The word "parasite" has neither a negative or a positive connotation. A parasite and its host are involved in a symbiotic relation. By definition we are a parasite and the earth is our host. The LDS Church teaches that all living things including the earth have souls and that the earth and mankind are formed from eternal intelligences and that all of us have spirits which were spiritually created before being temporally created. That includes the earth. The spirit and body are a soul and all living things including the earth have a soul.

    We are commanded to take care of the earth because our Heavenly Father knows that the earth grieves when we hurt her unnecessarily and she is making a real sacrifice by providing us with a host body to live on.

    The earth will be exalted for her sacrifice but if we mistreat her we will be condemned.

    The "spirit" of the earth feels pain and knows when we harm her. In fact, parasites in us keep us alive

  • unabashed capitalist
    April 2, 2009 6:21 p.m.

    What is a steward?

  • To: "I also say Wow!"
    April 2, 2009 6:26 p.m.

    What is the point of doing our own research and publishing it in peer reviewed journals when the many qualified scientists who have are discounted as kooks?

    That is not meant as some type of "gotcha," rather an honest question. I have listened to many of those who have been written off as lunatics, and most of them, if not all that I've heard, are clearly reasonable people who are not on a crusade but are frustrated that their professional opinion does not count.

    As has been said many times on these boards, science is not about concensus, but about what can be proved; It only takes one.

    Very few people want to destroy the environment, but to be forced to pay ridiculously high taxes for the agenda of some who do not know whether it will even work despite all of the hyperbole is maddening. The kicker is that only a few developed nations (Mostly the USA) will be the only ones complying with this lunacy. Like someone above said, let's spend those billions on things we know will work.

  • Nan
    April 2, 2009 6:59 p.m.

    Al Gore is a child of God - granted. We could possible disagree with him more respectfully. But seriously, seriously do we doubt his sincerity. And we seriously disagree with his teachings.

    This is not Republican/Democrat nonsense. Do we all swallow the party lines in totality? I hope not.

    Contention is of the devil. That we know. We should be kind and respectful, but we do not have to agree.

  • Anonymous
    April 2, 2009 7:30 p.m.

    LOL!

  • Let me understand this
    April 2, 2009 7:53 p.m.

    Al Gore bad because wants taxes & laws to help protect our enviornment to create a better world.

    George Bush good because he spent billions to send our kids off to war to die, and turned the world against us...

    I just don't get it.

  • re: Anonymous 3:46 p.m.
    April 2, 2009 8:09 p.m.

    Anonymous 3:46.

    You're right we do need to treat others with courtesy and respect whether we agree with what they do or not. Sometimes people forget that and then wonder why we have the problems we do.

    Hope Mr. Gore enjoys his time.

  • Rob
    April 2, 2009 8:35 p.m.

    Our understanding of science is very limited. To make any definite conclusions about the sun and the weather patterns of the earth is far beyound our reach. People are opposed to the "global warming" push for many reasons: First, it is never good science to completely close the door on other options (we have made a lot of mistakes in science and will continue to do so). Second, people want to protect to environment but don't like it forced upon us by the government. Third, people don't like that gobal warming is a guise for government control.

  • Ed
    April 2, 2009 9:12 p.m.

    I'll be buying a HUMMER so I can help head off the inevitable global cooling that will happen when all the carbon is removed from the atmos. Nature, not man, is in charge here and she will show us again how little impact we have on the enviro. Oh, I do recycle paper, glass, metal, plastic.

  • Earth is getting warmer
    April 2, 2009 9:36 p.m.

    The earth is getting warmer. That is an irrefutable fact. You can say it just doesn't matter, you can say it is part of a natural cycle, you can say that nothing bad will come of it, but you cannot say that the earth is not getting warmer. I have worked on Capitol Hill and heard the IPCC, NASA, UN, and countless others testify of this. Even George Bush admitted this before he left office. Also, in my undergraduate at BYU and graduate at SU I heard many true experts testify of this. When I say true experts I mean exactly that. When I compare the testimonies of the experts in this field to the hilarious comments of the people who post on here it is actually sad in my opinion how uneducated a lot of people from Utah are.

  • Anonymous
    April 2, 2009 10:15 p.m.

    To the Earth is getting warmer:

    That why it is snowing in April. Cuz it's getting warmer....not.

  • Howard
    April 2, 2009 10:16 p.m.

    For my liberal friends out there, you can be a conservative and a wise steward over the environment. The difference I want to have the freedom to decide how I conserve and protect the environment and not the government telling me how I need to conserve. Ducks Unlimited has done more to restore the wetlands and the duck population than the government, the Sierra Club and the Nature Conservancy combined.

    As for Al Gore, many of his conclusions have been proven to be false. If he wants to be taken seriously he needs to practice what he preaches. If he was really serious he would fly commercially and get rid of his private jet. When he starts flying commercially like the rest of us, I start to listen to him.

  • Rich
    April 2, 2009 10:35 p.m.

    I care about the environment, but Al Gore goes too far. Too many on the left are critical of those of us who buy SUV's and fly on Jet's, and yet you don't see Al Gore going all over the country in a Toyota Prius. He flies on a jet just like the rest of us. I for one love technology, and I love SUV's and Trucks, and will continue to purchase them, because I don't think it will change anything when it comes to the environment.

  • PR firm needs lesson in PR
    April 2, 2009 11:03 p.m.

    The thing that cracks me up is that the PR firm refused to comment on anything...they're a PR firm, right?! Their answer to everything is "No comment." And they're getting paid for...what?

    It's cool that church leaders are open to both democrats and republicans, but I think Gore's lecture about global warming is just annoying at this point. It's the one thing he can continue to bring up and get people's attention. I can't believe he actually won the Nobel Peace Prize.

  • Enjoyglobalwarming
    April 2, 2009 11:32 p.m.

    Humans don't cause global warming! Watch "The great global warming swindle" documentation from Channel 4 UK on Google video or Youtube.

  • Ripp
    April 2, 2009 11:59 p.m.

    Response to "Why are you so angry".
    Your answer is because it is being mandated. They decide for us instead of letting us use our agency. Furthermore, the process is weakening our country when our enemies are strengthening their forces all around us. I have no problems being ECO friendly. I do not likes mandates, nor weakening our country during at time like this.

  • I still think it is hilarious
    April 3, 2009 12:02 a.m.

    That Al Gore wants to lecture people on global warming. Two different panels of scientists, one from the EU and one from the UN, have said that the models used to predict doomsday global warming use junk science, and that they cannot confirm man-made effects have significantly contributed to warming. Al Gore loves to fly around in his private jet and keep his mansion rolling in electricity (house and plane combined- he pollutes nearly 200 times more then the average American/yr), and he wants to lecture me on driving twenty minutes to school, not owning a prius, and for traveling too much. Al Gore is the biggest hypocrite on the planet. He can fly his jet and use triple the electricity in a month then I use in a year to power his home, but I should feel guilty for driving to school ? He's a joke.

  • Anonymous
    April 3, 2009 12:38 a.m.

    6:06 - that was an awesome comment. I honestly never thought I'd read someone's comment for any reason than entertainment but that point was very well made and gave me a very good alternative perspective to how I've always viewed tree huggers.

  • Jenny
    April 3, 2009 12:42 a.m.

    Okay....so, Al Gore met with the leaders of the LDS church. Why? Really, someone explain to me why he requested such a meeting.

  • nation'scoolerthanever
    April 3, 2009 1:08 a.m.

    Where my brother lives in Oklahoma they got 21" of snow last week(the end of March!) They closed the road just north of the Point of the Mountain 4/2/09 because of snow.
    Pretty warm,huh. Gore craves attention and money. He didn't get to be President so he found a way to get some global attention.
    There are plenty of scientists that don't agree with him!

  • wake up
    April 3, 2009 1:25 a.m.

    1: The commandment to "multiply and replenish the earth" refers specifically to human procreation, not the way we use natural resources.

    2: The earth WAS created in spirit, but it has no nervous system and can't feel pain. Trees and rocks were also created in spirit, but "spirit" in this instance does not mean intelligence. I mean, are you high?

    3: The consensus is NOT that the world is rapidly warming. That's actually a lie. Around half of the scientists who study climate change suggest that the world is now cooling down. NASA studies show that the oceans have lost heat dramatically since 2003, and that the warmest year on record was 1934.

    4: Al Gore is an opportunist. Nothing more. A large portion of his wealth comes from Occidental Petroleum. He is rich from coal and oil revenues. Look it up. Moreover, he is purchasing green-credits and is heavily invested in "green" technologies and if his agenda gets pushed through he will make hundreds of millions of dollars. He's just a business man. He tells you to turn off your lamp and tv while he flies from mansion to mansion in private jets.

  • RE: Ed @9:12pm
    April 3, 2009 1:49 a.m.

    Nope I don't think you will be buying any Hummer. Don't you watch the news? Pres. Obama has ordered the manufacturing of all Hummer's to stop. And actually the junk man throws into the earth's atmosphere has alot of impact on the environment.Better do a little bit more research on the subject. So glad to hear that you do at least recycle.

  • Cats
    April 3, 2009 4:04 a.m.

    I think it's so funny that someone thinks the fact that Gore is a Democrat has anything to do with anything. The leaders met with him out of courtesy and that's all. It has nothing to do with whether he is a Democrat or a Republican. It has NOTHING to do with politics. That this should give heart to Democrats in the Church is silly.

    The Church has always taken the position of wise stewardship of the earth and being careful with our resources. It has NOTHING to do with politics or global warming.

    The fact that Gore requested a meeting with the Church shows that he believes the Church is an important force in the world today. THAT'S what should be heartening to members of the Church. Party affiliation is IRRELEVANT.

  • Emjay
    April 3, 2009 4:13 a.m.

    To "The earth is getting warmer:" Apparently you are not aware of the 650 climate scientists who recently submitted a report to the U.S. Senate. One of these scientists is a Nobel Prize winner. Another one is formerly with the U.N. and stated that now he is no longer with the U.N. he can say what he really thinks.

    What the report states is that the evidence DOES NOT support the conclusion for man-made global warming. Also, recently a PhD scientist confronted Al Gore and asked him to debate him about global warming. Gore refused to do it. It sounds like he's not quite so sure of himself as he claims.

    The fact is that MANY climate scientists think that the whole global warming thing is nothing more than a lot of alarmism perpetuated by people who want to get government grants for their research projects and put a stop to economic development.

    No matter what Al Gore says, the debate is NOT over.


  • Nils
    April 3, 2009 4:25 a.m.

    I think one of the benefits of Gore's work and why he has received recognition for it has been the awareness he has raised, not just for the existence of global warming, but the effects.

    The Church absolutely has interest in the effects of global warming. For instance, the nations of the South Pacific are already feeling the biggest effects of global warming. The Church has many congregations living in these countries. The nation of Tuvalu will be unable to sustain the population within five years because of the rising sea level (they are relocating to New Zealand). The nation of Kiribati is likely next, and with a population of over 100,000 (about 11% LDS) I am sure the Church is interested in knowing more about the situation in order to know how to care for the people there.

  • kjco
    April 3, 2009 5:29 a.m.

    Just cannot understand why, if Al Gore TRULY believes the stuff he is promoting, why doesn't he TELECONFERENCE?? SKYPE??? He could even broadcast big speeches to the masses via the internet & they wouldn't even have to leave their homes & spew toxic waste into the air in trains, planes, buses or cars (or risk life & limb on a bike).
    He is enough of a hypocrite to make me just disbelieve anything he says. If it were as dire as he is making it out to be, then w/every meeting he goes to he is killing the rest of us slowly. Kinda' sick n twisted, don't you think?

  • Gore Shmore
    April 3, 2009 5:54 a.m.

    Be careful all you "green" people. Gore is a baffoon. First, if you do homework, most of the changes he wants to make laws involve companies you would be using things he has invested in. He's full of crap, and if the LDS leaders have their antennas up, they will recognize that. God, and only God, can control the climate.

  • Good Riddance
    April 3, 2009 6:00 a.m.

    Hopefully he has taken his private jet elsewhere. I am sure Ezra Benson is rolling in his grave as his prophecies of the dangers of socialism are being fulfilled before our eyes.

  • To: Anonymous @10:15
    April 3, 2009 6:09 a.m.

    The earth's temperature is measured in more complex ways than "if it is snowing" in Utah in April. It snowed yesterday where I live in NY too. It probably snowed in lots of places. But at the same time, the summers are getting hotter and longer elsewhere around the world, our summers will be hotter when they get here too. Ice caps and glaciers are melting on the poles as well. Again my friend, you do not have to attribute this to man, that is your prerogative. You can say it is part of a natural cycle or that you don't care, but you cannot say that the earth is not getting warmer. But don't take my word for it. Just a little but of research into any reliable study of organization like NASA will confirm this. Personally, I know the earth is getting warmer but I honestly don't really care. Call me selfish, but global warming is not really ever going to affect me so I don't really care. I probably wont buy a hybrid or anything like that. But I am intelligent enough to understand the earth is currently getting warmer.

  • Jason H
    April 3, 2009 6:24 a.m.

    Alright, First of all, Gore and his Global Warming is not accurate, sure The earth is warming, but wasnt it in the 70's when everyone thought the ice age was coming back? Leading Scientest claim "its a natural earth cycle" however you wont hear that arguement from Gore or his followers.

    regardless, This is our Earth, our planet, we must take care of it. We must be responsible for what GOD gave us to watch over. I highly dislike Gore and his policies, But the activists Gore represents are anti People (i.e. Peta, etc)

  • We're All Environmentalist
    April 3, 2009 6:24 a.m.

    I have to laugh at all the nay-sayors here who say this meeting is a waste of time.

    In building the Conference Center the Church initiated a wave of "green" urban buildings. It remains one of the top five examples of how to build green even today.

    If you're going to be a conservative, at the very least agree that we should conserve the natural resource with which we have been blessed.

  • Al's Cause
    April 3, 2009 6:29 a.m.

    Gore's refusal to debate man-caused global warming leads me to conclude regarding his fear mongering claims "...he betrayed our country..he played on our fears"!

    Until and unless Gore can use more science and less propaganda to support his claims he is a false prophet.

  • CO2 scariness
    April 3, 2009 6:30 a.m.

    imo, CO2 is not the enemy. I'm down with reducing sulphur in the atmosphere, and methane emissions, and CO ain't good. But CO2 is a fundamental food source for plants, and imo, could be controlled by simply planting a few more and wise land management.

  • No "new world order"
    April 3, 2009 6:30 a.m.

    Reading over these comments, a key theme of the climate change deniers is evident -- they don't want a "new world order" that changes the status quo. Let's see -- America and the world are addicted to oil controlled by authoritarian governments, most of which are anti-democracy. Our oil dollars desvistate American families financially, whenever the price reaches $3 or more per gallon, which has contributed to our current economic crisis. And those oil dollars have been traced to sponsoring terrorism against the West.

    As consumers, Americans have no choice but to use oil to commute to work, and that oil distribution is controlled by a tight-knit oligopoly of oil companies, many of which have openly denied climate change or claim they are not interested in investing in new, cleaner, alternative energy sources (e.g., Exxon, Shell), even though every other constituent yearns for it as a means of reducing our oil dependency and cleaning up the environment.

    In short, there's no free market for us to move away from an oil-based infrastructure that clearly is bad for America's national, economic, and energy security -- I ask, is this the status quo that climate deniers want?

  • Tokenism
    April 3, 2009 6:32 a.m.

    At its very worst.

  • Yes
    April 3, 2009 6:34 a.m.

    Gore, yah got class.
    Yah got brains.
    Yah got guts.

    The little people are embar. by your work. Ignore them.

  • Dennis
    April 3, 2009 6:36 a.m.

    If Al Gore has lips moving, he's telling a lie or eating. Both of which produce the same result the next day.
    Of course places on earth are warmer. It's arrogant of human beings to think they have any control over it or even started it. The "carbon footprint" of humanity is so low compared to 30 to 40 years ago it's ridiculous to assume that anything mankind is doing today makes any kind of a difference in the weather, heat, cold, or any facsimile thereof.
    Meeting with Al Gore. How silly.

  • Charlotte
    April 3, 2009 6:40 a.m.

    Rob sums up my position quite nicely. It's the guise of government control that causes me to be wary. Any contientious person wants to conserve our resources and keep the earth clean. One gives too much credit to mankind to think we can absolutely control climate. Also, we need Co2 if we want all the "green" to thrive. Co2 is a necessary component of photosynthesis.

  • Non issue hot bed
    April 3, 2009 6:58 a.m.

    1st Al Gore is a profiteer plain and simple who is riding a political game to millions of dollars and world fame. That is all.

    2nd Not all scientists believe the hype

    3rd the benifits of climatology do not outway the rewards. Arrogant western culture is acting as though taxation on green house gas emmisions will make the earth cleaner. When in fact it make everything I use more expensive giving more money to undeserving beurocrats. It also sends Millions of Jobs to countries that are not participating in this movement ie China, and India.

    People who live in counties without industry don't live on dirt floors because it's more eco-friendly. They do so because they have no choice. Now why can't we do something that benifits both the ecconomy and the eccology like remove cap and trade and let those companies reinvest that money in cleaner techologies.

    finally People a shouting match and a feighned outrage by some will not settle this neither will hidden agendas which both sides seem to have so stop with the WOW comments and the insults we ought to be more mature than that.

  • Meeting was at Gore's
    April 3, 2009 7:00 a.m.

    Request. Did you get that part of the story? Gore is running around the country presuming to "lecture" us all, including religious leaders of many demoniations (he knows more than God, after all) on how we're all going to cook th earth. He's a politician, not a scientist. He studied journalism in college! He's a "true believer" in the talking points generated by Earth First! Of course the First Presidency and General Authorties would be gracious; that's what they are. But for people to read into that it's an implied endorsement of liberal Democratic politics and some compatability with LDS teachings and values is patently absurd.

  • Anonymous
    April 3, 2009 7:03 a.m.

    "Prudent stewardship and wise use of resources are principles that church leaders have emphasized throughout the history of the church," This is correct and true. The Church should work with Gore in this effort. By the way, Robert Redford used the same language as Scott Trotter, back in the 1970s. Just like Gore, he was mocked by Utahns who care more for big industry and the despoiling of our planet so that their money hungry selfish interests can be served. Redford was right then, and Gore is right now. We need a long term approach.

  • Clean Air
    April 3, 2009 7:10 a.m.

    I just want to breath clean air. If dropping CO2 emissions helps me to do that then I am all for it. I just want to breath clean air.

  • Rebecca to Ed
    April 3, 2009 7:17 a.m.

    When your Bishop says it, will you believe it? Also I think it is very wise of you to use a lot of gasoline. Guys like you will certainly drive the price of oil back up. Of course then we will use less. Maybe your thinking is right.

  • MCH (East Coast Mormon)
    April 3, 2009 7:18 a.m.

    When one analyzes anything, all factors must be considered. Certainly Mr. Gore is welcome to share his views and should be treated with dignity. That said the science as of this time is inconclusive. There are hundreds of scientists with views that the earth is not warming. There are hundreds who say it is. The fact is we need more study. Billions of dollars should only be spent if we are as certain as we can be that it is true. Secondly most people do not realize that Mr. Gore has made over 100 million dollars giving speeches and presenting his views since 2000. He will leave Utah to give a speech that he will receive tens of thousands of dollars to give. I am a capitalist. If people want to pay to be warned then that is their choice but to compare him to Mother Theresa or a Bishop who serves for nothing is not a rational comparison. I was raised by a father who told me that when I went anywhere leave it cleaner than when I got there. If Mr. Gore truly wants to help the earth perhaps he should live a less extravagant lifestyle.

  • Anonymous
    April 3, 2009 7:21 a.m.

    Al Gore wants your "Carbon Taxes" They are coming.. we'll all pay for the tax man for breathing!

  • I am green. . .
    April 3, 2009 7:21 a.m.

    . . . therefore I exist.

  • Cody
    April 3, 2009 7:32 a.m.

    Environmentalism is about control, the want to contol peoples lives, It has nothing to do about the "environment". Every environmental position is a way to control the masses. It takes away libery and freedom, to cornerstone of the gospel and constitution, Which the church teaches, is inspired by God.

  • GWB
    April 3, 2009 7:45 a.m.

    Wow, as I read these comments it seems to me that the Church leaders talking with Gore has caused some to question their faith in their leaders.

    These people have been indoctrinated that talking with Democrats and Democratic principles are at odds with being a Christian in the vein of Republicans and that you cannot both be a christian and a Democrat.

    This is where the problem lies. It appears the leaders they seem to question from this meeting are not Rush Limbaugh and the Republican Party Leaders, but rather the LDS Church leaders.

    That is unfortunate.

  • Hoax
    April 3, 2009 7:46 a.m.

    Al Gore and his following are a hoax and are scamming everyone out of millions of dollars. There is no proof that Gullible Warimg is a man-made event. It is ignorant of Al or anyone else to think that man is important enough on this earth to have cause some global event that has taken over the course of this planet. This scam is going to cost everybody millions of dollars and freedoms we used to enjoy just because we gave into it. Come on people, wake up before it's too late.

  • Knowwhat
    April 3, 2009 7:47 a.m.

    The Arctic ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some places the seals are finding the water too hot, according to a report to the Commerce Department yesterday from Consul Ifft, at Bergen, Norway. Reports from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers, he declared, all point to a radical change in climate conditions and hitherto unheard-of temperatures in the Arctic zone. Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met with as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes. Soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters showed the gulf stream still very warm. Great masses of ice have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, the report continued, while at many points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared. Very few seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic, while vast shoals of herring and smelts, which have never before ventured so far north, are being encountered in the old seal fishing grounds.
    A RealClimate blogger? No, that was the US Weather Bureau in 1922.

  • multiply and replenish
    April 3, 2009 7:49 a.m.

    The commandment to multiply and replenish the earth is just that multiply AND replenish, not replenish by multiplying. We have stewardship over the earth just like we have stewardship over our children or church calling. That doesn't mean we have the authority to USE them but to TAKE CARE of them.

  • Knowwhat
    April 3, 2009 7:49 a.m.

    March 9, 1999, Al Gore, worlds greatest snake oil salesman and I quote,"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system."

  • wood1271
    April 3, 2009 7:52 a.m.

    He was searching for "manbearbig" "Excelsior!"

  • Ben McAll
    April 3, 2009 7:56 a.m.

    Al Gore is of the "Elite Class" and has demonstrated that he has no intention of practicing what he preaches.

  • Re: The earth is getting warmer
    April 3, 2009 8:03 a.m.

    Fact: The pacific northwest (where I live) had the coldest June on record - ever - last year. The second coldest February (last month), the second coldest March - ever.

    Fact: Headline from the Seattle Times, July 2008 - "Colder than Siberia"

    Fact: Unusually cold waters in Alaska last year led to the worst salmon season in recent memory. The fish were confused and didn't move up river to spawn.

    Fact: The cold weather last summer badly damaged the berry crop in the NW. One of the worst seasons ever.

    Fact: Al Gore lives with his wife and two kids in a 10,000 sq ft mansion and flies private jets. Until recently, he drove an SUV. Hypocrite.

    Fact: John Staussel from ABC News aired a piece five years ago where THOUSANDS of scientists called climate change a natural phenomenon. Left wing groups sued to keep the story off the air, but it still ran (Hmmm, freedom of press/speech?).

    We've all read "Taming of the Shrew," so you can't fool us. It's cold. Stop telling us it's hot.

  • I am green as well....
    April 3, 2009 8:11 a.m.

    .... but I. Gore is nothing more than a doomsday seller. However, maybe if we re-counted the votes, we could get a different Nobel Peace prize winner. Those darn chads.

  • Lee
    April 3, 2009 8:11 a.m.

    It's about the money.Also, power & control.There is a payday coming.Everyone will pay REAL dollars for all this "climate change".It will be a BIG payday, not paying a few cents for "greener light bulbs",etc. It will be an increase of at least 40 to 50% more in electric rates.BUT, it doesn't stop there.You will pay the addl. 40 to 50% for every one of your goods & services.I am not making this up.This notion of "being greener "is going to be painful for everyone.

  • Green but not really
    April 3, 2009 8:20 a.m.

    green. Al flew in on his private jet and was driven around in monster SUV while he was here. Way to go AL!!! Practice was you preach my friend.
    Oh...wait...I am sure it was a Hybrid SUV and I bet his jet uses Biodiesel. Right....

  • Proof
    April 3, 2009 8:22 a.m.

    The facts posted at 8:03 a.m. support the theory of global warming. "Global warming" is something of a misnomer. The theory does not imply that every location around the world will experience a rise in temperature. The theory implies that AVERAGE temperatures will increase.

    Extreme weather conditions, including unseasonal weather conditions, are evidence of global warming. This includes hotter summers and droughts that last an unusually long time. It also includes snow in April and May, longer hurricane seasons, and Seattle being colder than Siberia. Google global warming, or look at global warming in Wikipedia for a basic understanding.

  • george
    April 3, 2009 8:23 a.m.

    Let's see now, Al Gore, King of the global warming charade; what could he have told the mormon church on his visit and what it was about.

    Let's see, mormons are famous for large families, big SUV's, numerous loads of laundry, numerous mouths to feed.

    How about hugh houses with numerous rooms.

    It has numerous church buildings that have their lights on constantly.

    mmm, what else?

  • anon
    April 3, 2009 8:25 a.m.

    Al Gore has an agenda that only he understands. This is absurd. Of course we should take care of the earth but we should also enjoy our environment, use our roads, harvest our tree crops. He is such a hypocrite, bet he didn't come to SLC pushing his handcart or riding his bicycle, no doubt he roared in on his private "carbon footprinting" private jet. What an idiot. What does he think he gained by meeting with church leaders?

  • Anonymous
    April 3, 2009 8:25 a.m.

    So Called Climate Change is a natural cycle, that is not caused by human activities. The average volcano puts out more emissions than the USA puts out in a decade. The world cools, then it heats up, do you think the ice age was caused by the terrible people and their cars???? no. Remember this one thing...Al Gore is a politician, and cannot be trusted. He is profiteering on global fear and I am appalled that he would have the nerve to try to push his political adgenda on the prophet, seer, and revelator or the world.

  • Simon Says
    April 3, 2009 8:26 a.m.

    Goodness, I cannot believe all the negative, critical comments being posted. So what if Mr Gore met with LDS CHurch leaders. Personally I think that that is great. He has an agenda to get out there, and the LDS Church continually emerges as a major player in the global world. Why wouldn't Gore want to talk with them. Looking after our precious planet is the responsibility of all who live on it.

  • STRONG ARM POLITICS
    April 3, 2009 8:32 a.m.

    This was strong arm politics at its best. Gore came to say "get your church on board with global warming and we'll forget about taxing charitable contributions".

  • ABB
    April 3, 2009 8:35 a.m.

    Agree with thine adversary while thou art in the way with him. The global tax empowering the UN to become a true global governing entity is now coming out of fear of global warming. sleep sheeple sleep, drink more fluoride.

  • Sorry, Al
    April 3, 2009 8:38 a.m.

    If you're going green, go all the way. Come to SLC the way mormons of old did-in a wagon or pulling a handcart. This ol' plane and gas-guzzlin limo stuff just doesn't cut it.
    But beyond that, can you imagine sitting for t...h...i...r...t...y minutes of him talking? OMG, talk about CO2.

  • Michael
    April 3, 2009 8:42 a.m.

    Man-made climate change is not nearly established as scientific fact. Those scientists who most loudly proclaim it are also those who gain government grants to keep it going. It has become a big business unto itself.

    Climate scientists can barely make an accurate forecast about what will happen in the next 24 hours and we're supposed to believe they have a firm enough grasp on the many, many variables to accurately tell us what happened thousands of years ago? Come on, that's not science, that's religious devotion to a hypothesis.

  • Facts
    April 3, 2009 8:44 a.m.

    Fact: We as a people produce way to much CO2 and we don't really know exactly what impact it's having on the environment and overall health as a people and and we should do something about it.

    Fact: Global Warming is a scientific theory and not fact. At one point scientist's believed the earth would cool significantly and throw us into an ice age all because of human activity. Even now scientist debate on the real cause of Global Warming.

    I do believe that God has given this earth to us and that we should be wise stewards. I'll listen to Gore about what he says we can do to reduce pollution, conserve energy, etc. And do my part. But there is just to much conflicting scientific debate to consider me sold on Global Warming.

  • Active Mormon environmentalist
    April 3, 2009 8:45 a.m.

    1. The vast majority of climatologists agree that the earth is warming due to human emissions of CO2 and other greenhouse gases. New studies further support this.

    2. Tremendous harm will result from sea-level rise, increased spread of tropical diseases, changes in weather patterns, etc. The biggest losers will be the poor and endangered species; dealing with these changes will cost us far more than the costs of preventing them.

    3. Under a carbon tax or cap-and-trade system everyone will pay more for things that result in lots of CO2 emissions. This is fair: market theory says we SHOULD pay for all the costs associated with producing a good. We haven't been paying for the environmental costs. Rebates to the poor can cushion the blow.

    4. As prices go up, research into low carbon alternatives will go up too. Markets will work to foster innovation, and clean energy will rapidly replace dirty energy sources. This won't happen if CO2 emissions aren't expensive.

    Thus govt. action to raise fossil fuel energy costs are consistent with market principles, are fair, and will help us, our posterity and other living things in the long run.

  • JJ
    April 3, 2009 8:45 a.m.

    I think it is ironic that when Al "Mr Global Warming" Gore, Jr. comes to town it's chilly and it's snowing...

  • To: Why are you all Angry
    April 3, 2009 8:47 a.m.

    So I guess you are okay with Pres. Bush invading Iraq for erroneous reasons (weapons of mass destruction) as long as the result was positive (deposed a ruthless dictator, stabalized the region)?

    Why doesn't Al Gore create an organization devoted to lowering pollution and developing alternative energies? Because he doesn't really care about these things. He perpetuates this global warming lie to line his own greedy pockets.

    Reducing pollution and developing alternative energies, if done in a reasonable way, would have almost universal support. Gore's approach would destroy our economy and waste billions of dollars toward an end goal (reducing global temperatues) that is not attainable. This is about greed and money and trying to stay relevant and nothing else.

  • Mormon from Missiouri
    April 3, 2009 8:48 a.m.

    Wow, Colleen what are you smokin. That is the most studpid thing I have heard.

  • Thank You Rob
    April 3, 2009 8:56 a.m.

    The most sensible comment here. The bottom line is the reasons behind all the "good" going on with the Global Warming. I love the earth and all that it provides and I know who created it and why. I want to take care of it for that purpose only and not out of fear. You can find just as many scientists that believe it is a hoax. Listen to the guy who created the weather channel. He says the earth cycles like this all the time. It is nothing new. Al Gore and his followers have an agenda I do not believe they really care about the earth or they would give a lot more credit to the Creator. I believe it is for an evil purpose. Doing all the good in the world for an evil purpose is still evil and it is the d definition of guile.

  • Cap'n Trade
    April 3, 2009 8:59 a.m.

    There's nothing wrong with being conservation-minded and being good stewards. We all agree with those principles. The problem is using misleading information to promote political agendas that don't actually REDUCE pollution, such as the sham CARBON CREDITS and CAP AND TRADE legislation.

  • Cats
    April 3, 2009 9:02 a.m.

    The issue it NOT whether the climate is changing. It has changed many times over millions of years. The issue IS whether it is manmade. The evidence to support that is very questionable. Many scientists are completely opposed to the man-made global warming theory and consider it be a bunch of alarmism. Even though the pro global-warming croud claims scientific consensus (which actually DOESN'T exist), consensus is NOT scientific fact.

    No matter what Al Gore says, the debate is NOT over. However, if it IS warming, the solution is to find ways to adapt to that...NOT to bankrupt our economy by trying to change it. Destroying our lives by adopting actions that MIGHT lower the temperature by 1/2 degree is stupid. It's actually quite arrogant to believe that we have that kind of power.

  • Liberty
    April 3, 2009 9:03 a.m.

    In the first chapter of Glenn Beck's book, "An Inconvenient Book" He had chart's demonstrating the close relationship of the Earth's temperatures to Solar activity and the outrageous stretch in trying to connect those same temperatures to CO-2 emissions.

  • Roy Rogers McFreely
    April 3, 2009 9:06 a.m.

    re: Anonymous | 7:03 a.m. April 3, 2009

    ((Redford was right then, and Gore is right now. We need a long term approach.))

    You mean an eternal perspective?

  • Mike
    April 3, 2009 9:07 a.m.

    I agree with all of the comments that suggest we should be mindful of how we effect our environment and should take steps to midigate any negative effects. Whereas, we don't need to apologize for being here, we could definately do a much better job respecting and conserving the wonderful world we have. Additionally, I disagree with the many divisive and unkind comments, I don't think there is a need/place for that in thoughtful discussions on important issues.

  • Aaron
    April 3, 2009 9:11 a.m.

    Show me where the climatologist agree that global warming was caused by man.

  • Lonie
    April 3, 2009 9:13 a.m.

    The mormon church needs american indians as part of the general authorities to give the church more balance and appreciation for care of mother earth. The white man only thinks in terms of greed, ownership, control, power and profit. The indian thinks in terms of sharing, community, and harmony with god and nature. Earth was happier before white man.

  • To: Acitve Mormon Enviro
    April 3, 2009 9:17 a.m.

    1. Only the vast majority of climatologists at the Weather Channel agree with global warming, not the vast majority of real scientists. In fact, the founder of the Weather Channel debunked global warming recently in a paper about how the scam started in the first place. Even the man who started the global warming histeria had second thoughts about it before he died.
    2. Sea level rise is way over-exaggerated. In fact, they recently found that there is much more polar ice than their computer models said. Anyone who uses a computer knows how reliable they are.
    3. Cap and trade will bankrupt everyone, especially the poor.
    4. Alternatives are way too expensive and not at all reliable. Everything will cost too much to produce. Ane when has government action ever solved any problem? Bottom line is that enviro's hate our consumer society and our freedom to come and go and earn and spend. They want control.

  • Hmmmm.
    April 3, 2009 9:23 a.m.

    Some of you need an education on what Mr. Gore's agenda is. It's politcal( read greed and power based). Of course we need to be good stewards - no question, but all he really wants. He's the biggest hypocite there is on this subject. Do you know how much he has invested in CAP and Trade? He's using fear, lies and some truth to confuse people - in the end he's looking for the windfall. He's no better then the fraudulant wall street types and the politicians (heck that is what he is). Can't trust him one bit - his end is evil and he uses some good to get there.

  • It's about the money
    April 3, 2009 9:26 a.m.

    I think most people agree that we should conserve energy when we can, and should decrease pollutions as new technologies develop. I think many people don't trust Gore and the Global Warming movement because their motives may not be pure. Gore makes money as we move to Green, as do much of the corporations behind the movement. Plus, the science IS NOT CLEAR. We should not dump excessive amounts of money (and our unborn children's money) into fixing something before we understand the problem, and KNOW we can fix it. We're just throwing money at a possible problem without really knowing if it will help. There's smarter things to do with money.

  • Anonymous
    April 3, 2009 9:27 a.m.

    Cats. I realize how ignorant some people can be. I didnt know everyone here knew so much about global warming. You guys are all experts.

  • Silly People...
    April 3, 2009 9:33 a.m.

    Don't you know the DN News Readers only condone meetings with Far Right Personalites.

  • re: Earth is getting warmer
    April 3, 2009 9:33 a.m.

    I have as much education as you, if not more. You "educated" people crack me up with your, "look at me, I have a master's, so what I say is set in stone."

    Give me a break. I too have studied the global warming issue, including things such as the chemical reaction of car exhaust on the ozone.

    So far, 31,000 scientist have signed a petition against the idea of global warming. Yes, that's 31,000. That means there must be a pretty strong argument against global warming, because scientist rarely take a stance without first examining the facts.

    Go to petition project dot org to see all of the names yourself. You will see there are a lot of PhD's and MD's on the list.

    Another thing, Utah people are not ignorant. Utah people are very well educated. You just claim they are ignorant because they don't share your opinion. The fact is it's your opinion, and nothing more.

    P.S. The Theory of Evolution is a "theory" and not fact also., so it would be appreciated if you liberals would stop forcing the general population to accept it as fact.

  • cb
    April 3, 2009 9:50 a.m.

    We are all for the wise use of our resources. We are not for the government or some nutcake like Gore mandating how we use them. The green movement is all about socialism. It is another way to put government in control of your life.

  • That big yellow thing
    April 3, 2009 9:52 a.m.

    What about the fact that the SUN actually has cycles? It gets warm for a while, then cools for a while. Anyone else remember in the early-mid 70s how the scientists were predicting another ice age??

    I am all for real conservation without bankrupting people. I turn my lights and water off every chance I get. I keep my heat down. I recycle cardboard and don't idle my car on cold mornings.

    I hate feeling forced to pay for unproven methods when that money could be better used in many other ways--especially right now. I think this global warming craze is like a new religion. There are so many believers willing to throw billions of dollars at it, when there is NO agreement about the causes. Just a lot of posturing and threats. And if the sun and volcanic activity and other HUGE, natural factors can't be ignored, then why are many doing so?

    One last thing...whose plan is it to limit the size of families and say, you shouldn't have more than 1 or 2 kids because of your "carbon footprint"? Would that be God's plan? NO.

  • Anonymous
    April 3, 2009 9:52 a.m.

    I am for conservation and looking for alternative energy but this should not be forced upon us by government. I fear that this is just another way to control us through taxation. I am tired of big government and our politicians in Washington. It is time for change.

  • Robert - St. George
    April 3, 2009 9:56 a.m.

    I am a Republican, but not a member of the LDS Church. (Yes it is possible to be Non Mormon and a Republican in Utah). I think it is great that the Mormon leaders can reach out to all people. The Mormon Church has been a great steward of the land and its property. I think people like Al Gore recognize that and so he came to thank and to encourage the Church to continue their actions. I admire that about the LDS. I think the Mormon Church claims stands that are attractive to both political parties. I remember in the 80s how the Church attracted the GOP with its stand on the ERA and then turned around and attracted the Dems with their stand on the storage of missiles in the Utah desert. What a great religion the Mormons have come up with. I just sit back and marvel. LOL.

  • Oh Please
    April 3, 2009 9:57 a.m.

    Republican/Conservative Gospel: To heck with thy neighbor. Ignore the science, fill the atmosphere with crap, pave over every living thing, drill it, suck it up, and burn it--all for the benefit of my wallet.
    Christ's Gospel: Love thy neighbor (or at least don't choke him to death just to fill your wallet). As for the Earth, He said: "Take good care of it."

  • Pedro
    April 3, 2009 10:08 a.m.

    "Bottom line is that enviro's hate our consumer society and our freedom to come and go and earn and spend. They want control."

    When I read statements like this, I trust the writer about as much as I trust Glen Beck. In other words, not at all.

  • Christopher
    April 3, 2009 10:09 a.m.

    Fact is LDS leaders had a meeting with Al Gore, they felt he deserved a meeting. That is all the article says. And it says a lot.

  • We are green..
    April 3, 2009 10:10 a.m.

    Most of the Mormons I know, including myself, are people that look after the environment. Cleaner cars, recycling, growing gardens, etc. It just appears that most of us don't feel the need to vocalize to the world how great we are.

  • Cyril H. Noble
    April 3, 2009 10:11 a.m.

    As a uniom member in Seattle, I met former vice president Al Gore he is a real gentleman and a great representative
    for the global warming truths.

  • frost
    April 3, 2009 10:11 a.m.

    Back in the seventies there was going to be an ice age and now the earth is warming. The fact is the earth naturally goes through phases or warming and cooling. I agree we need to take care of the environment, but anyone can see that this is simply a great way for Al Gore to make money.

  • wer
    April 3, 2009 10:21 a.m.

    Bottom line: a photo op and a chance to keep his foot in the presidential puddle.

  • Get priorities straight
    April 3, 2009 10:29 a.m.

    LDS 'green'??, Is it more important to not dump engine oil in your backyard or to not surf pornography on the internet?

    Sure we all need to do our part to conserve energy, reduce waste, pollution, etc., but it is more important to have the companionship of the Holy Ghost. That is probably why you won't hear much during the upcoming general conference from the leaders of the church about saving the earth. Our souls are more important.

  • Arizona
    April 3, 2009 10:32 a.m.

    I believe Al Gore means well and is trying to make the world a better place. Whether or not global warming is man-made, working to reasonably reduce pollution is a good thing. Hopefully his meeting with church leaders was mutually beneficial.

  • Wow!
    April 3, 2009 10:39 a.m.

    Lot's of Straw Man (fallacious) arguments being expressed here - on both sides of this issue. Many of you need to "get a grip" and check your egos at the door.

  • Skeptical
    April 3, 2009 10:46 a.m.

    I don't believe in this global warming nonsense, at the same time I do believe in being conservative and protective to our planet. At the same time using all of our resources our great Earth provides us.

    The reason I have a problem with listening to Mr. Gore is because I know there is an agenda behind his preaching of global warming. Washington Democrats are always looking for a reason to stick their hands in our pockets and steal our money with taxes. My gut feeling is that this whole global warming agenda is based around taxing all of the evil people who drive SUV's, and don't buy eco-friendly cars. Or maybe shut down important projects bacause they don't meet their overbearing environmental protection policies.
    It would be a lot easier to follow someone in being conscious to the environment if there wasn't always a hidden agenda with Washington to take away some of our freedoms. It would also help if the person preaching the message wasn't such a hypocrite.

  • J Miles
    April 3, 2009 10:49 a.m.

    Global warming is not caused by man's technology. Warming and cooling cycles existed long before we had the kind of technology Al Gore aledges causes global warming. Besides, many experts now say the Earth is cooling again and the ice layer is increasing. We have had one of the coolest winters in many year. Having said that, we all need to conserve our natural resources.

  • Realistic View
    April 3, 2009 10:58 a.m.

    The comments after articles always crack me up. I swear some of the views that are voiced are posted just to disagree with others. Today's comments have shown many posters uneducated and wrong views. Global Warming (or Climate Change) is happening and it is being influenced by human activities. However, I think it is important to communicate that just Climate Change is not just resulting in the warming of the earth. In fact, some areas are cooling. The point of the Greenhouse Gas Effect is that it is going to influence our planet and our temperatures.

    Please before posting an argument, research the topic.

  • John Wicks
    April 3, 2009 11:05 a.m.

    The biggest loser of all times. What a hypocrite! Get on your jet and get out of my city.

  • I know....
    April 3, 2009 11:08 a.m.

    he is still trying to get support for patent rights to the invention of the Internet......LOL!!

  • 2009 International Conference on
    April 3, 2009 11:11 a.m.

    Did anyone hear about the 2009 International Conference on Climate Change, held March 8-10 in New York City? Of course not, because the media is liberal.

  • Thanks to Wow!
    April 3, 2009 11:11 a.m.

    Thank you to Wow! for condescendingly defining "straw man" for the rest of us lowly readers. Obviously your own ego couldn't be checked at the door long enough to overcome your haughty assumption that we wouldn't be familiar with that term.

  • To Realistic view
    April 3, 2009 11:25 a.m.

    Now are we a know it all? Get over yourself.

  • Nan
    April 3, 2009 11:27 a.m.

    We pathetic lowly uneducated people have to decide which brilliant well-educated leaders to believe. And it so terribly difficult to know in whom we should trust. Please don't hate us because we don't trust Mr. Gore.

    Many of us have lived long enough to learn that you can't trust "experts." I look back through the years at how we have been jerked back and forth by doctors etc. One year it is good for you, the next they are suing for damages.

    Trusting in man is just not a great idea. Oh be wise! (And "follow the money.")

  • Anonymous
    April 3, 2009 11:28 a.m.

    As an open-minded individual, I have noticed that there is a BIG BALL OF FIRE in the sky called THE SUN. It goes through cycles, and in turn the earth (and Jupiter, Mars, etc.) to get hotter or cooler.

    But that is the lease of our problems. We need to watch c02 emissions people! But that is only a small portion of the atmosphere. We should focus on one of the larger greenhouse gasses like H20. That is messing up the planet hard core!

  • Pedro
    April 3, 2009 11:29 a.m.

    Al Gore clearly has an agenda, and he stands to profit from this global warming nonsense.

    That is why I only trust Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck. They say global warming is a hoax, and they are obviously well-informed experts on the topic who don't have any alterior motives.

  • Anonymous
    April 3, 2009 11:32 a.m.

    It is ironic and funny to me that Al Gore made this presentation on "global warming" during an April snowstorm. I'm starting to wish "global warming" was real so we could get some decent weather around here.

  • Mark
    April 3, 2009 11:36 a.m.

    It is funny and ironic to me that Al Gore gave his presentation on "global warming" during an April snowstorm. I'm starting to wish "global warming" was real so we could get some decent weather around here.

  • Shauna
    April 3, 2009 11:40 a.m.

    When Mr. Gore was a twinkle in his Mother's eye, the LDS Church had already preached that over-indulgence in any way was against the teachings of Our Father-in-Heaven. Science has always been a hypothesis of expected outcomes. When I see people, like Mr. Gore preaching that "Global Warming" is a problem, and requiring that we, the American People, should be spending billions of dollars combating the alledged problem, while he flies around the world in his private jet and lives in a multi-million dollar home, his preachings are simply as "dust in the wind".

  • Gree/Blue planet
    April 3, 2009 11:47 a.m.

    After reading so many comments against Al Gore from good LDS citizens, I wonder if the authorities of the church are wrong. After all, they accepted to meet with this good for nothing of Al Gore.
    May be Al Gore paid them to meet.
    May be Al Gore is becoming a Mormon.
    May be this is a plot from the left to mislead all of us.
    I'm just being a sarcastic idiot tryng to tell all Al Gore haters....Relax, is no big deal.

  • LDS Hoosier
    April 3, 2009 12:00 p.m.

    Just for the point of correction, the former Vice President did not meet with the First Presidency. He met with Elders Ballard and Cook and other members of the public affairs committee. So far as I know these two apostles head that committee, so it would be appropriate that they be the ones in the meeting. I just wanted to set the record straight. Okay. Back to the global warming debate -- please keep it civil.

  • NOT a Gore fan...
    April 3, 2009 12:03 p.m.

    You people are idiots....Comparing Gore to Jesus? The environment as our beloved neighbor? Give me a break! Gore is not a scientist....He did not invent the internet....He is a politician who is good at his job of getting mindless, stupid people, and hollywood to follow him... This gives him power....

  • It's going to be funny
    April 3, 2009 12:12 p.m.

    when the Church comes out with a new "Green Revelation" and all you deniers will have to change your stance.
    Oh, no, that could never happen!

  • Anonymous
    April 3, 2009 12:15 p.m.

    If we want to significantly reduce CO2 then every country would have to be involved. (The Chinese factories put out a huge amount of CO2.) Things would have to regulated. We would have to have laws and they would have to be enforced. We would need a world government! Al Gore for president of the world. Yea!!!! Yah, he has adgenda and I doubt it is only the welfare of our planet.

  • anonymous
    April 3, 2009 12:17 p.m.

    STOP! Read a couple of science journals and you will discover that 2007 and 2008 were both colder than previous years and the "real" scientists believe there is a greater chance of another ice age than global warming.

    Or..... believe that there is a God with a plan. No stress :)

  • To: Active Mormon environmentali
    April 3, 2009 12:17 p.m.

    You made several assertions of fact. What are your sources? Before you try to fob opinion off as fact, please provide your sources.

  • Paul
    April 3, 2009 12:22 p.m.

    Church of Jesus Christ, I'd like to introduce you to the Church of Global Warming.

  • scomf
    April 3, 2009 12:36 p.m.

    first Gore is one of the biggest hypocrites out there when it comes to practicing what he preaches. He is also a might loonie by attempting to lay clain to "creating the internet".

    Global warming is far from a fact at this stage. It wasn't long ago these same scientists were running around claiming we were headed for another ice age.

    The sooner folks realize Gore is a nut case, the better off we will all be.

  • Anonymous
    April 3, 2009 12:37 p.m.

    PAUL LOL!!!!

  • democrat
    April 3, 2009 12:38 p.m.

    this global warming thing is all george bushes fault!!
    him and that dang war.

  • 2 bits
    April 3, 2009 12:39 p.m.

    Why do so many feel the LDS church needs to make a statement or take a stand regarding Global Warming?

    How could their position be any more clear?

    One of the most fundimental concepts of the gospel is... That God created this earth and gave it to us (human kind) with a COMMAND to take care of the earth.

    How could they be any clearer than that?

    If you read the scriptures or if you've been to the temple (and not just seen it on TV) you already know that the LDS consider the earth to be sacred and it is OUR responsibility to care for it.

    Personally I don't think Al Gore (who uses 10 times more energy than the average family in just ONE of his luxury homes and flies around in a private jet spewing jet fuel and hydrocarbons into the air DAILY) has any room to preach to the LDS people about how to care for the earth.

    This topic is something the LDS leadership and doctrine are ALREADY perfectly clear on. We ARE responsible for caring for the earth.

  • Paul, it's funny.
    April 3, 2009 12:58 p.m.

    Religious people tend to see rapid global climate change as a religious issue, hence your "Church of Global Warming" moniker.
    Do religious people have a difficult time incorporating new ways of thinking which are at times required by society in general?
    I wonder about that.

  • New MIT Report
    April 3, 2009 1:08 p.m.

    Unlike you local "experts," I've been reading MIT's latest report on global warming. Just released, the report says this: "All our simulations have a very small probability of warming less than 2.4C in this century." (See Report 169, MIT Joint Program on Science and Policy.) To translate for all you Limbaughbrains out there, things are gonna get hotter than they thought. But then MIT's opinion CAN'T be more trustworthy than Glenn Beck's, right?

  • Adam
    April 3, 2009 1:11 p.m.

    There has been some real Global Warming. So far the best scientific measurements put that Global Warming at a 1/2 degree farenheit raise in the last 3/4 of a century. There has been zero rise in the sea level. The temperature was higher in the 13th century than it is now. The Vikings settled Greenland as dairy farmers. Should we plant trees? Yes. Should we set aside more urban open space? Absolutely. Should we create more bike paths? Yes. Should asphalt parking lots get islands of shade trees to improve beauty and coolness? Of course. Should billboards be outlawed? YES!!! Does Al Gore's agenda have some major flaws that would probably greatly deepen our current economic downturn and the loss of jobs? It's not that hard to connect the dots.

  • Mike
    April 3, 2009 1:16 p.m.

    H20 is a greenhouse gas? Funny, I always thought it was water, in it's liquid form. I guess Anonymous must just be funnin us poor backwoods hicks.

  • By the way
    April 3, 2009 1:18 p.m.

    Algore is making billions off of his companies he has set up to take advantage of "green" stuff.

  • re: Why are you all so angry ??
    April 3, 2009 1:21 p.m.

    well lets see , I am angry because I will be taxed for this con job... Cap and trade for starters - not to mention the proposed legislation to attack home grown gardens.. and the list goes on... The coal industry will suffer and so will I with higher energy prices... Nice of you to go with the patented " don't you want clean air and water..."

    oh and not all scientists agree sir -- NOT EVEN CLOSE>

  • Hollywood
    April 3, 2009 1:28 p.m.

    Doesn't matter if Gore flies in on his own jet. All he needs to do is buy some carbon offset credits. Didn't you know that's the solution to all these problems? Carbon offsets will stop global warming.

    The U.S. and Western Europe just need to transfer billions of dollars to countries such as China and India. After all, those countries are pristine, unlike the corrupt and dirty "West."

    I'm all for wise use of resources, less pollution, recycling, more open space and greenery. But for Gore and most environmentalists, global warming is about transfer of money and power, not making the earth a better place to live.

  • Bill
    April 3, 2009 1:33 p.m.

    Al Gore is a joke, and obviously the noble peace prize has been cheapened because of him winning one. I'm all for doing things cleaner, etc., but global warming is just another urban myth.

  • PP
    April 3, 2009 1:35 p.m.

    ----Unlike you local "experts," I've been reading MIT's latest report on global warming. Just released, the report says this: "All our simulations have a very small probability of warming less than 2.4C in this century."----
    The key word here is "simulations". Simulations are a great for starting but at some point you actually have to take a measurement. To date all the simulations have predicted wild temperature increases and sea level rises but real data have found neither. The problem with a simulation is that it will find what the programmer tells it to find.

    Temperature wise we are well within historical norms. I am not sure why anyone would even give it a second glance, much less panic (and spend money) over it.

  • Here's to Granny
    April 3, 2009 1:36 p.m.

    If you are blessed to have a woman born before 1930 closeby, I suggest that you watch her at the kitchen sink. She knows how to conserve. We would do well not to waste things.
    And pat yourself on the back for cleaner/more efficient cars, cleaner water, and less energy use.
    The cause of our woes then? Growth through immigration. Talk about that, Gore!
    I resent Al's carbon footprint nonsense which is nothing more than a global tax a la UN. Run from that deal because we're the payers and the rest of the world are the getters.
    His agenda is redistribution of wealth with a handling fee for himself.

  • RE: Mike
    April 3, 2009 1:36 p.m.

    You might actually be a backwards hick. Water vapor is very much a greenhouse gas. Perhaps you weren't aware that water can exist in a gaseous form as well as liquid form. Look it up if you don't believe it. This is according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA). Look up NOAA, look up water vapor as a greenhouse gas in google. Even look up greenhouse gas and you will find water vapor.

  • RE: Mike
    April 3, 2009 1:39 p.m.

    H2O is the single most important greenhouse gas. CO2 is singled out because it is one most likely to be created by burning of fossil fuels (meaning attributed to man).

  • PP
    April 3, 2009 1:41 p.m.

    ----H20 is a greenhouse gas? Funny, I always thought it was water, in it's liquid form. I guess Anonymous must just be funnin us poor backwoods hicks.----

    To add to this, H2O is a self regulating system. If it gets too hot more evaporates and blocks (not increases) warming thus helping the temperature cool down. Many studies have found that CO2 acts in the same way. Face it, we have very little effect on the climate of the earth. We are tiny and insignificant and it is the height of arrogance to think otherwise.

  • Hey Ed
    April 3, 2009 1:52 p.m.

    You sound like a real bonafide scientist. Why don't you quit your job bagging groceries and apply for a professorial position at the U.

    You seem to know a lot about the environment.

  • Victor...it IS ironic!
    April 3, 2009 1:58 p.m.

    Right on, JJ! Looks like mother nature played a somewhat belated April Fool's joke on Mister Albert Gore, jr.

  • Thelma lou
    April 3, 2009 2:04 p.m.

    Oh my, What a very nice picture of the two of them on here.

  • Blaine Nay
    April 3, 2009 2:15 p.m.

    Meeting with Earth's biggest source of hot air doesn't do much for the credibility of the church and its leadership.

  • Knowwhat
    April 3, 2009 2:18 p.m.

    Nils, are you serious? In 5 years? Based on the latest extreme predictions the oceans are only rising at the most 1.3mm per year. They also predict that a maximum increas of 1.8 meters for the next century. I don't anyone will be moving out of their home in 5 years.

  • RexidaWyo
    April 3, 2009 3:10 p.m.

    I thought the comments toward the end of the article were a little ridiculous when quotes were made about the church meeting with a democrat. So what? That doesn't mean anything.

    We are a church of many lands, of many nations, and of many political systems. Who cares whether the church leaders meet with Democrats, Republicans, or any other number of political agendas in this country. That meeting didn't put a stamp of approval on the Democratic Party nor would meeting with some Republic worried about the same issue.

    The journalist should keep her personal agendas out of her work. Report the news as you did the first half of the article and stop trying to sway the public into believing something that obviously meant nothing more than meeting with a man that has a concern with the environment. It was a quote from Jowers, but a ridiculous one to add to the article.

    The church backs no political party and maybe if we would follow its example there wouldn't be such poor representation from either side of the isle.

    Politics or not Mr. Gore is a hypocrite and anyone that can't see that is blind.

  • Climate science
    April 3, 2009 4:08 p.m.

    According to the director of the National Weather Service, "climate science is in its infancy". Do we really want to trust such "babes" to meddle with our prosperity when their theories are based on unprovable assumptions?

    These geniuses can apparently see what's going to happen 100 years from now, even though they can't accurately predict the weather tomorrow. They completely ignore the facts in the ice and fossil records which suggest that climate has always been quite cyclical.

    Maybe if Gore talks with the prophet more often, he'll become better at predicting things...

  • JG
    April 3, 2009 4:10 p.m.

    I am happy that Al Gore met with church leaders. That is awesome! Go Green!

  • Chad
    April 3, 2009 4:19 p.m.

    LDS Church leaders are certainly cordial in welcoming Gore. Gore certainly wants ANYONE to listen to his message. But it is still nothing more than a waste of time - Gore is a freaking buffon; regardless of any validity in Global Warming.

    Just wish he would go back to some rock and crawl under it again.

  • Cosmo
    April 3, 2009 4:26 p.m.

    I would not vote for a Democrat, if the Pope, President of the LDS church, or the Arch Bishop of Canterbury said to do so. It is voting for the Anti-Christ! Global Warming is the "Big Lie", of the Fascists!

  • John Pack Lambert
    April 3, 2009 4:56 p.m.

    What the "anti-global warming" activists are pushing for is a system that penalizes the United States for production, but gives no credit to our forests.
    They also push for a system that limits new development so people remain crowded in slums and suffer the negative consequences of this crowding.
    There is inadequate evidence that global warming is anthropogenic, and much of the evidence that is presented is either of questionable value or actually misinterpreted.
    It is not a case of those who do not accept the case for anthropogenic global warming verses science, but among scientists there are differing views on the causes and future trends connected with global warming.

  • Here is....
    April 3, 2009 4:57 p.m.

    an idea, how about starting the "perpetual global warming fund?"............LOL!!

  • Look at the Picture
    April 3, 2009 5:00 p.m.

    The goofy look on Al's face in the pic says it all. He's a manchurian candidate and he wants everyone to just fall in line and obey his Gullible Warming Hoax. After everyone is mesmerized by his superior intelligence, then he and his group can start making millions on there mandatory new laws.

  • John Pack Lambert
    April 3, 2009 5:07 p.m.

    To Green Mormon,
    Maybe living in your Utah bubble where you can pick and choose what parts of the Environmental movement you embrace it makes sense.
    However, living here in Michigan I get mocked by enviromentalists and told my parents are bad and destructive to the environment because they have seven children.
    Such insulting of people for fullfilling the commandments of God is what makes me dislike environmentalists.

  • A scientist
    April 3, 2009 5:13 p.m.

    @New MIT Report
    Due to funding concerns, many scientists are just likely to be distorting the truth as the right-wing commentators that you lambast. The simulations that are run are often used as proof of global warming. However, what many scientists are reluctant to acknowledge is that many times if the same simulations are used with actual data from the past, the simulations incorrectly predict that the average temperatures would be several degrees higher than what they actually are today. Many scientists then makes adjustments to their model to make the data match. This results in a large error in future prediction because the assumptions for the adjustments are always skewed for past events that have already happened (i.e. volcanic eruptions, in this case), and which there is not yet sufficient evidence for the same adjustment in the future.

    Thus, I wouldn't throw our economy in the tank for models that may not even be close. In addition, most environmental legislation would have a negligible effect on future temperatures even if you assume the models are correct.

    P.S. A Policy web site is not usually a good source for unbiased science.

  • John Pack Lambert
    April 3, 2009 5:20 p.m.

    The International Journal of Climatology has published at least one article that argues the recent increases in the tempature of the earth are not the result of human activity. John Christi has specifically argued that the rise in temperature does not fit the green-house warming model.
    Unfortunantly since this issue has been politicized, some have tried to weigh the number of people on each side of the argument. The real question should be which view has more actual evidence in its favor.

  • Enoch
    April 3, 2009 5:33 p.m.

    The Pearl of Great Price says that before the Lord comes the skies will darken and the sea will be troubled. I wonder what would cause such a thing?

  • John Pack Lambert
    April 3, 2009 5:35 p.m.

    I think the earth warming is a good thing. During the medieval warm spell they built the Cathedrals, then it cooled down and they suffered from the black plague.

  • Claude Dallas2
    April 3, 2009 5:56 p.m.

    VP Al Gore is a passionate man. I have a difficult time swallowing his carbon tax agenda. I am a working man living paycheck to paycheck. I suggest we work on a realistic approach to protecting our environment. Not Taxing Americans in a bad economy.
    StateCost at 100% Auction
    (in millions)Increase in Electricity Costs per Capita
    .California4647.8$126.45
    .Colorado3471.5$702.81
    .Delaware19.9$22.79
    .District of Columbia578.4$977.30
    .Florida11077.6$604.40
    .Hawaii767.6$595.87
    .Idaho113.4$74.42
    .Utah3052.4$1,115.47
    .Vermont1.2$1.93
    .Washington1267.1$193.47
    .West Virginia7207.6$3,972.29
    .Wyoming3861.6$7,249.54

    Source: Committee on Ways & Means Republican Staff analysis


    Sincerely,

    Jason Chaffetz
    Member of Congress

  • Ryan
    April 3, 2009 6:00 p.m.

    I'm glad people care about the environment, recycling, etc. but the notion that man causes ANY sort of shift in weather or climate patterns is the most absurd kind of thinking since.............. never, it is the most absurd thought of all time.
    Al Gore just wants to feel important any way he can.

  • mitchell
    April 3, 2009 6:09 p.m.

    This meeting was to ingratiate the church to the party in power. That what seems prudent. I know that's cynical but the meeting could have happened any time in the last 4-6 years but didn't till a popular Democrat was elected president.

  • Implied Endorsement of Democrats
    April 3, 2009 6:11 p.m.

    I was not impressed by the statement in the article by Kurt Jowers from the Hinckley institute that the LDS general authorities' meeting with Gore demonstrates that being liberal Democrat is not incompatible with LDS teachings and beliefs. THe fact of the matter is that the LDS church is full of Democrats; conservative ones, and few wackos (some in every group). They're usually over 70 years old and would not feel comfortable with Nancy Pelosi liberal politics (or even Harry Reid for that matter). The General authorities would meet with just about anybody because they're nice and polite....They'd probably meet with Karl Marx if he were alive and requested a meeting. No one should take away from that fact that its an implied endorsement of the requestor's politics or positions. That's patently absurd. What were they going to do; snub the former Vice-President of the United States? Wacko environmentlaist though he may be? He was still the Vice President and of course they were going to meet with him and be nice. End of story. (Gore is still deluded talking suit).

  • Dave
    April 3, 2009 6:42 p.m.

    Yes, it has recently been warming. But, even with increased CO2 emissions, the temperature has not risen for the last 10 years. The warming and cooling cycles that have occurred over the last several thousand years were not driven by CO2, but by variations in solar activity and other natural cloud and oceanic variations. The temperature rise and fall actually precedes the corresponding increase and decrease in CO2 by a period of around 800 years. The danger in the "Climate Change" promoters is that they have drastic solutions for a non-crisis. The "Cap and Trade" policies pushed by our politicians would cripple our already highly damaged economy. Do a little reading. Try: Red Hot Lies by Christopher Horner and Unstopplble Global Warming by Fred Singer and Dennis Avery.

  • Wow!
    April 3, 2009 6:49 p.m.

    Gee how nice that the LDS church turned off the lights at temple square for on hour. What is that suppose to prove? Hell, the ventilation system in the conference center alone uses more electricity in one hour than the lights use in a year!

  • What's next?
    April 3, 2009 6:52 p.m.

    Is the super ruling elite going to out law the human race from exhaling to minimize carbon dioxide?

  • Debbie
    April 3, 2009 6:53 p.m.

    This earth is our stewardship. It is the creation of our father and a gift and on loan to us. Our personal opinions of Mr Gore should have nothing to do with our responsibility to this earth. I am not a green person but I do feel a need to try to assist the future of the earths atmosphere. I feel the need to mention that I am ashamed of the comments and attitudes I have read today. such anger and rudeness. As if it is ones place to tell off the world. This is an opportunity to make the world a better place and should be used as so. Not a sounding board for lousy attitudes and ill mannered personal hang ups. Those that come to this site are church members or investigators. Take stock of your comments and attitudes people.

  • Tell me--
    April 3, 2009 6:56 p.m.

    What does multiplying and replenishing the earth have to do with global warming?

  • Been Gore'd too much
    April 3, 2009 7:17 p.m.

    First he invented the internet. Thank goodness for that so we can blog together.

    Then, Al Gore KNEW there were more votes for him in Florida... JUST COUNT THE VOTES! (nevermind that recount after recount validated W's victory).

    Now, Gore wants us all to stand on our heads to stop global warming.

    I personally am not sure either way on the cause of global warming, but could there have been a kookier advocate emerge than Mr. Al Gore?? Maybe Al Franken?

  • Turtle dove
    April 3, 2009 8:35 p.m.

    Wow, some of the comments written since 6:53PM sound like my 3rd grade kid writing on here. Take stock- huh? LOL!

  • Anonymous
    April 4, 2009 8:59 a.m.

    This is news? Sitting around talking about CO2 emissions? *Yawn*

  • Anonymous
    April 4, 2009 9:01 a.m.

    Al Gore looks like such a gomer in that picture...I would hate to be on the Church's public relations committee and have to sit through such a boring presentation about CO2 emissions...fascinating stuff, let me tell ya...

  • Scott
    April 4, 2009 9:29 a.m.

    What is it with the mormon church members, they cry about how they are shunned and picked on, and now a world prominent personality and world leader pays them respect with his visit and they complain about it.

  • Publius
    April 4, 2009 5:25 p.m.

    The Gore meeting is not disturbing: dimming the temple lights for Earth Hour is. Earth Hour had nothing do do with the wise use of resources as suggested by Church Spokesman Scott Trotter.

    The event was organized by WWF with the idea of demonstrating global support for government action, specifically the Cophenhagen Conference this coming December at which a replacement will be drafted for the Kyoto Protocol. It was, in short, a highly propagandized effort to promote support for another government power grab.

    UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon specifically stated that such was the object of Earth Hour. Dimming the temple lights suggests the Church is in solidarity with the objectives of the event. As political positions have always been scrupulously avoided by the Church, one can only wonder why the lights were dimmed--almost a dark irony.

  • Chris
    April 4, 2009 10:41 p.m.

    I'm not an enviromentalist and I think Gore is one of the most moral people to walk the earth, he married at 21, has stayed married, believes in having children, he loves art, science, language, culture, music and technology----he has southern charm, laughs and knows when to be serious. Granted, it may be an easy life to be born to a powerful US senator and to have a mother who was one of first female attorney in out country and he still went to Vietnam---- He is one of the most talented people on the planet in my view-----smart and moral and a beliver in God's word.
    Having said all of this, I wish he would speak out as much on morals and marriage and family as about the weather; but he has lived a good life so I can't say too much against the man.

  • Gore: our 43rd president
    April 4, 2009 10:55 p.m.

    Like most Americans, I voted for Gore and I'm LDS and have always thought Gore is a better person than I am in so many categories. I think God took a lot of his weakest children and made them members of his church to humble the church and the world----Gore is my superior in so many areas-----I hope someday to be the husband and father, friend that he is. He believes in the scriptures as much as anyone else. He prays as much as anyone else. He thinks as much if not more than anyone else. He thinks deeply about eternal things as much as anyone else, and believe it or not, perhaps I may be biased, but I do believe he played as integral a role in the internet as any other human being. Who invented the internet? Can you name who did? Give me a name. When Gore was in Congress in his 30's, Congress was all old men and Gore was on cutting edge of so many industries and technologies. And believe it or not, he knew Hollywood was corrupt in the 1980's. I thank God for life of Gore.

  • Algore is IMMORAL!
    April 5, 2009 6:09 p.m.

    This was a total waste of time. Algore is immoral- enough said.

  • Savant
    April 5, 2009 6:32 p.m.

    To: Gore, our 43rd President

    Most attribute the invention of the internet to Tim Berners-Lee, and MIT professor.

    Claiming to have invented the internet is not what makes most people dislike Al Gore. He is an opportunist who put our national security as risk by giving defense secrets to the Chinese, rented out the Lincoln Bedroom for campaign contributions, and lives in a 10,000 sq ft mansion, flies private jets and drives SUV's while telling everyone else they need to cut back.

    He only wanted to re-count the votes in the 4 most Democratic counties in Florida in 2000 and threatened to sue to allow the counting of the votes of felons and to disallow votes of our military that, through no fault of their own, arrived after the deadline.

    Your respect for him is admirable and it's true, he is very persuasive and articulate. But from what I've seen of him, he is a hypocrite and a demogogue.

    Rounding up sympathetic scientists who want to believe Americans are soley to blame for climate change is politics, not science. Sorry.

  • KYinAZ
    April 5, 2009 7:22 p.m.

    I submitted a comment that did not show. Maybe because it may have read like I was advocating violence. I suggested that true environmentalists should run Al Gore out of town on a rail. I did not mean this as a violent act or actually tying him to a rail, I only meant it as a figure of speech. I don't think Algore cares at all about the environment. I think he only cares about money and power. Man-caused climate change is just ridiculous. Did you know that termites alone put more carbon into the atmosphere than all human activity combined? That's just one bug. There are many more carbon producers than that. We need to take care of our planet, there is no doubt. But this claim is preposterous.

    Quit bringing up George Bush. He was an idiot, granted. I have no respect for members of either party. Current congress and immediate past members are guilty of treason, IMHO

  • KYinAZ
    April 5, 2009 7:45 p.m.

    Here's the thing. Man is nothing. He is a blip on the radar of infinity. There is only one source for global climate. Only one entity with the power to end the planet or let it continue, that entity is God. Not man, not science, not Algore, not George Bush, not even Barack Obama, Nor all evil humans all combined together, they are powerless to make a single hair-width of a difference.

    Let's be the best stewards we can be. Respect the planet, but let us not support stupid empty causes based in fear, lies and made-up science.

  • tyler
    April 6, 2009 6:15 a.m.

    I'm 100% behind caring for the environment. But Al Gore is a proven hypocrite when he uses 12 times the amount of electricity in one of 3 mansions in one month than the average American does in an entire year! I don't mind caring about the environment, it's when hypocrites are the ones pretending to care except when it comes to powering their mansions and private jets

  • Jade
    April 6, 2009 6:53 a.m.

    Al Gore does not live by what he professes to support, ie large home uses a third more electricity than the average person. I support trying to be more green. But the global warming part has not been proven. There is great debate to its merit in the scientific realm. If fact more studies our concluding it is not a fact. It concerns me that with all things that our government is doing right now, it is one more way to control the people. Global warming is another theory, like Darwin's theory it is not a proven fact.

  • Marnie
    April 6, 2009 12:16 p.m.

    I think the only reason Mr. Gore stopped in Utah and talked with the Church was to solicite contributions for his cause. Follow the money. I think the Church cannot get involved with his causes because they are political and will do nothing to keep the earth safe from us. The only thing we can do to change things if they need changing is to follow the God who gave us this world in the first place.

  • re KYinAZ | 7:45 p.m
    April 6, 2009 2:48 p.m.

    wow - dude - you are really out there. God is off visiting the other 10,000 planets that didn't kill His son. He left us with the responsibility to care for this planet. And while man certainly doesn't have the power to end the planet, we certainly have the ability to make it uninhabitable to the human race, or kill off the human race with one good mutated virus.

    It's a scary world. Don't count on God to fix it. He expects us to do it ourselves....

  • re Jade 6:53am
    April 6, 2009 2:51 p.m.

    and yet your entire religion is based on faith, without a shred of evidence.

    It seems strange that you would reject something that most of the world agrees on (global warming) yet accept something that most of the world finds bizarre and extremely doubtful (the mormon religion). Why is that?

  • Anonymous
    April 6, 2009 4:40 p.m.

    To Jade,

    "Global warming is another theory, like Darwin's theory it is not a proven fact."

    If global warming as achieved status on par with evolution, then you better start riding a bike to work TODAY! And you better start having a LOT more respect for Al Gore!

  • Respect for Al Gore?
    April 7, 2009 10:46 a.m.

    Are you kidding me? If he really believed what he is selling, his lifstyle would reflect that. It does not. He is living high on the hog with wasteful spending on his part towards his SUV's, private jet, large energy wasting home, etc... Please look past his fake concern for the earth and the potential climate change. His real motive is to implement laws to change our behavior. Within these new laws are ways for him and his friends to make money. That's it, pure and simple. And for anybody who understnads the geo-sciences, it takes a long time for any real change to happen to our earth. A global freeze or global warming is going to take a really long time to have any real affect. Anything that may have been detected in the last 10 years is meaningless in geologic time is just a hiccup in our earths history. Remember, it was just 30 years ago that we had a global freeze scare making the headlines.

  • Anonymous
    April 7, 2009 1:02 p.m.

    To Respect,

    Clearly, you have no clue what you are talking about when it comes to the "global warming" phenomenon.

    Go get an education before you try to put an argument into this discussion. You are clueless.

  • Cindy
    April 7, 2009 4:45 p.m.

    If there is one thing GOOD about the effort of those trying to take care of the earth, it is that it might remind us that we SHOULD try to take care of our earthly spaceship, instead of depleting all that it holds just to make things like $150 tennis shoes.

  • Mr. Sarcasm
    April 7, 2009 6:28 p.m.

    Wow, LDS leaders AND Al Gore together? Talk about a meeting of the minds. How wonderful that discussion must have been.

  • re:Re:Jade
    April 8, 2009 12:18 a.m.

    You show your ignorance. "Most of the world agrees on (global warming)." How so? Has their been a poll? From everything I've read, heard and seen, there seems to be an erosion in support for the theory. That's why it's now billed as "climate change."

    "Most of the world finds (Mormonism) bizarre and extremely doubtful." Again, do you have proof? Most of the world has never even heard of Mormonism. Or, what they do know is limited and just as likely to come from those outside the church as actual Mormons. I don't know what's so bizarre or doubtful that God would still talk to man today? Why would He suddenly stop talking to us 2,000 years ago? What's so bizarre about not wasting one's time, money and health on alcohol and cigarettes? Why should that bother you if someone else chooses not to get involved in those kinds of things?

  • Alisa Terry
    April 20, 2009 7:55 p.m.

    I think you are missing the point here - despite Al Gore's alleged personal failings, the Church considers environmentalism a valid concern. It is part of our stewardship over the earth to take good care of it, and Church leaders are willing to meet with those who share similar goals.

  • Who are you people
    April 22, 2009 11:25 a.m.

    As I have been sitting here wasting fifteen minutes of my life, I cant help but think who are some of you people?
    First, Al Gore requested the meeting with the leaders of Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Second, for some of you, what do you suppose Al Gore could every tell Prophets of God about how the earth works? Third, for those who were around in 1971 you might have read articles that warned of an impending ice age within 50 years. The world could be as little as 50 or 60 years away from a disastrous new ice age, predicts NASA scientist. - the average temperature could drop by six degrees...
    Same old stuff just a different spin. Yes, we need to be good stewards of what has been given us as we have been told, whether it is our families or whether it is the earth.
    Dont just rely on the mainstream media for your information. Read as much as you can.
    Please, for some of you, dont get caught up in this new religious man made hysteria. Stay focused on the Brethren.