Man refuses to testify about mink releases
richard g. it was humans that killed animals, regardless, so what does that say
about humans? so which point would you like to argue here? oh and for the
record minks are not domesticated, they live naturally in the wild, and will
always fight for their right to live.
Why is it always that the "Idealistic Euphoria" overwhelms some individuals that
otherwise may have a cause. If you take illegal actions, there will be
consequences. To most thinking adults, illegal actions in the name of activism
are not most effective. What if everyone pursued their favorite cause illegally?
We would be in a state of anarchay.I relly think people who do these
things are in a state of "Dufforia."
illegal actions in the name of activation created the united states!He is being jailed because he wont talk, yet when top level executives don't
co-operate or lie, they get a small(for their pay grade) fine.
Whether you support this person or not, you have to admit it's a little funny
that an animal rights activist is pictured wearing fake fur on his coat. He
likes animals but he also likes their look (and yes, I know, it's FAKE, but it
still made me chuckle).
What kind of fur is he wearing in the picture? What a poser!!
it takes courage to do the right thing.
Way to stand up for what you believe in Halliday. Maybe he learned from the
past Bush administration that most of the time to get things done you have to
bypass the law.Wish I was there to clap for you to."Animals
are my friends. I don't eat the flesh (or wear the skin/fur) of my friends".
"Halliday's attorney tried a number of defenses including his First Amendment
right to free association that were rejected by the judge."
"Contempt" is a legal fiction but a reality as to how many of us feel about the
Anyone has the right to not incriminate themselves and the constitutional law
exceeds the powers of Rule of Law which violates ones rights. We can't have a
court system or justice when it violates ones constitutuional rights. Rule of
Law is not an approved constitutional exception forcing ones self to incriminate
ones self. This whole new system of Rule of Law is a travesty to our
constitutional rights. The Rule of Law was written by an individual years ago
and adopted by our legal court system to override individual rights, and call it
justice. Also the use of ammnesty is criminal and an injustice, especially when
hardened criminals testimony is used as evidence. It is used as a means to
coerce evidence that is tainted.
That's not a fur-lined hood on his coat is it?
Did any people here who posted negative comments actually read the article?
Jordan did not release any minks. He is being arrested because he still believes
we ought to have a constitution that protects individuals from being compelled
to testify for the federal government. This type of activity by the government
is what is anathema to a liberal democratic society. It is what was used by
Joseph McCarthy during the Red Scare and sadly now many Americans are again
asleep at the wheel. Look at what's happening - this isn't a PETA vs. non-PETA
issue. This is a Constitution vs. Tyranny issue.
This is a Constitution vs. Anarchy issue. If I have knowledge of a crime that
someone intends to commit or has committed and am called to answer about my
knowledge in a court of law, I am compelled to answer or face constitutional
consequences. Mr. Beckham, if I don't like what you and your PETA
buddies are doing and I damage your property, or even worse in the case of your
more zealous PETA comrades commit violent acts against you, because I think I am
morally superior, is that OK? And if it is, then you must defend the same idiots
on the other end of the spectrum who bomb abortion clinics.I don't
like mink farms or fur coats, or chicken farms, or pig farms for that matter,
but we have numerous ways within our free republic to protest without breaking
the law. (Tyranny is when a government takes close to 50% of what
you earn from you and gives it to deadbeats that run around destroying private
property in the name of animal rights.)
I find it amusing that the majority of people who commented this article are
trying to express how much more intelligent and superior they are to animal
rights activists when it is apparent they didn't even read the story.Jordan is not being charged with releasing minks. Jordan is in jail because
he refused to participate in a grand jury which strips him of his constitutional
rights. The fact that he had the courage to stick up for what he believes in is
commendable. I think the world could use more individuals with such strong
conviction - instead there are an increasing number of people who are willing to
compromise what they believe in to appease other people. Change has never
occurred that way, and it never will.The fact the Jordan can sleep
at night knowing he didn't compromise his morals is admirable. I don't think
many of the people who replied to this post can honestly say that about
These animal rightists show their ignorance by releasing animals into the wild
when the animals are dependant upon their breeders to feed, water and care for
them on mink farms. When these mink are put out into the wild, they starve to
death or are hit by vehicles. What a waste of their purpose to exist! What a
loss to our economy!
Mink are Native to North America. They can survive in the wild. Studies have
been done (legally) where mink were bought and traced. Most of them survive just
fine.All of you talking about the mink that died really need to
think about the fate they would have suffered had they not been set free. They
aren't kept in climate controlled sheds, they aren't given proper care, they
live in feces and filth and are eventually killed for their fur.If
10 out of 1000 (or even if half of them) get hit by cars and the others go free,
I'd say those odds are better than what they faced in the farm.
To Ignorant PeopleI have tropical animals and once they have been
raised by humans they know longer can fen for themselves. So it is not so easy
when they have depended on humans their entire life to take care of them since
birth. So you do not know what you are spewing on here.
This is such a horrible injustice! These judges are the ones who should be in
jail. I can't believe our legal system can support these atrocities. This is for
sure a corrupted society and anybody who "dares" to disagree with it will be
severely punished by the grand jury. I strongly support to Jordan Halliday and
all brave people who offer their lives in the name of compassion. They are real
It is scary to think anyone on this post could be called up as a juror in a
court of law. I am surprised to read the strong biases and ignorance displayed
by so many. Jordan has never been even considered a suspect in the mink farm
vandalisms yet on this post he has already been tried and convicted. What
happened to our democracy?
To those who say someone on a grand jury doesn't deserve a lawyer, I have a
question:Do any defendants deserve a lawyer?What makes
Jordan, someone opposing a government strongarm tactic on principle, more
repulsive in your eyes than say, a husband who beats his wife or a drunk driver?
Do they not deserve lawyers as well? Should the government always be able to
muscle around the individual like that?It is amazing to me that
those in Utah that often call for smaller government - something I too often
support - are so willing to give the government so much unilateral power in
depriving citizens of the most basic liberties.
Correction:Sorry. I stated "someone on a grand jury" and I mean to
say "someone subpoenaed to testify" at a grand jury. My mistake.
Regardless of whether you agree or disagree with his cause, you have to take in
consideration the treatment he's been given. People who break the law and are
low income get treated a lot differently than those with money and power. We
just sit here, watch it, and let it happen. When a rich/famous/powerful person
gets aways with something we piss and moan but take no action. But when this kid
stands for what he believes in, just because we disagree we justify his unfair
treatment. But then again, how can people that devalue the environment and other
living beings be expected to treat each other any differently.
to ignorant peopleHave you even seen a mink farm?The mink that
are raised at the mink farms are not raised in bad conditions. They don't lay in
their own filth. They are given clean pens that are off the ground to keep them
out of their filth. they are given clean nest boxes and bedding to sleep in
every night. And by the way your study that says mink can survive on their own
doesn't mean anything. THat doesn't mean every mink can survive and besides you
can pay a scientist to say that they can survive in the wild.
Once again it is time for whomever monitors these comments to get busy deleting
the off topic, offensive, abusive comments. After all that is why the rules
I believe in what this young man is doing. He seems to have no evil intentions
unless you want to call being innocent something evil. He obviously does not
want to say anything about something he did not participate in. Imagine that a
young man who does not want to accuse the possibly innocent, someone who will
not spread unfounded rumors, someone who will stand up for what he believes in.
This wise old woman thinks those things are commendable in our young people.
You keep on sticking to your values, you have done nothing wrong young man. I
am sure that your family is proud of you.
Jordan hasn't done anything wrong. He's only standing up for what he believes
in. They don't have any type of proof that he helped release the Minks or
anything. So how can they keep him if they have no such evidence? He isn't going
to back down. Seems pointless to keep him when he won't back down from what he
believes in. And Mr. Beckham I agree with you.
Jordan we stand with you in solidarity!
I Can't understand why? inocent people like Jordan can be in prision only for
silence,where is the rights ?
The Constitution says you don't have to testify against yourself - it says
nothing about not having to testify against others.
KEEP ON! WE ARE BEHIND you!