I'm glad the law finally caught up to these criminals.Now IF they
are guilty and the justice system can convict them... it may restore my
confidence that we live in a land governed by law and order, not vigilante acts
of violence and destruction from radicals wanting to force THEIR ways upon
others.I know, I know, the ALF people will say, "But the butcher
famer is the criminal". But regardless of how convinced you are that this is
the case... By the laws of our land what the farmer was doing is 100% "LEGAL"
and what the ALF guy did is 100% illegal. Unless you are so radical that you
think you're personal law trumps the actual law of the land.
you know, mink pens need to be mucked out every now and again. I think if they
ever convict anybody, the judge should consider that fact when imposing a
sentence. after appropriate jail time, restitution, and fines, of course
Throw the book at these morons. They don't realize (probably because they never
got past 6th grade) that domestic ranch mink cannot survive in the wild for more
than a few days. They do not have the survival skills of wild mink. They
eventually die, outside of their cages, an agonizingly slow death. The rancher
is totally within his right to raise these mink. ALF is a disgustingly cowardice
organization of thugs and criminals.
Since these loons think animals have the same rights as humans, they need to be
charged with homicide for causing the deaths of mink being run over and dying
from exposure to the elements.
Animal activists, who think that animals are on par with man, are idiots, pure
and simple.God said that man was lord of the earth, and not the
other way around. Should we take care of the earth? You bet. Should we not
kill animals just for the sake of killing? Absolutely.However,
using the animals for our benefit....for food, for clothing, or for
companionship, if you wish, there's nothing with that.
To the many people who claim with 100% confidence that they know everything
there is to know about mink, check out a youtube video: "Debunking Myths About
Mink Liberations". Captive mink survive well once escaped. Much of the wild mink
in Utah comes from previous liberated mink. As for predictable comment coming
that liberating captive mink is cruel to the mink, don't you make the connection
that they are going to be confined and then slaughtered? This is far more cruel
than being given a chance to be free and live free and to die free.
I don't believe in god, and I see the whole idea that we own animals as archaic
and, quite frankly, outdated. But on a brighter note, domesticated mink can
survive in the wild. And a fur coat isn't necessary. Besides, how many people
can put $9,000 down on a piece of torture and still stomach it without breaking
their wallet? Probably a slim few, and they don't matter anyway. This is a dying
Dear FoxWesuoi and Intheend,Did it ever occur to you that maybe a
video on youtube would be edited and doctored? Hmmm. I have worked on a mink
farm before and saw first hand how the released mink were suffering. A day after
the break in, mink were being recovered who were suffering from dehydration
because they were not accustomed to finding their own water with a canal RIGHT
next to them. Several died because it got to hot and the were outside without
shade. The mink that were released were domesticated, which means they were
tame. They were just as confused as everyone else was. Think about it, if you
were thrown into either the Iraqi desert or the Amazon jungle you would realize
what the mink were feeling. Imagine being thrown into an environment where you
have no idea how to survive. To all those who say this industry is failing, the
fur industry is one of the only industries that is profiting in this hard
economic era. The auto industry is doing much worse! So think about that
@IntheendIf you don't believe in God why all this moralizing about
torturing animals being bad? Why would it be hard to stomach $9000 worth of
torture? It is smooth and is fashionable. Why is it bad in yoru view for
animals to suffer?Now, I probably am not going to be buy a $9000 fur
coat (actually, I might just to spite the ALF). I don't think it is good to
make God's creations suffer. I want to respect the life that God put
everywhere. But that is a religious value which I am told should not be applied
to those who don't believe in it.It would help if you better
explained your reasoning.Tekakaromatagi
Weird thing, you don't actually have to be fearful of a false god to be a kind,
compassionate, and moral person. Mindblowing I know!
Jordan, I fear no false gods. If you are so intent on being just
and good, kind and moral, why don't you and the rest of the anarchists BUY the
mink from the farmers? you could then meet your goals in a legal manner and
show the rest of us just how kind and good you are.
As long as someone holds something to be true all means justify their means. We
applaud unlawful behavior because someone is passionate. How would we feel if
the mink farmer was passionate enough to booby trap or heaven forbid defend his
own property with those awful guns. Would we respect his passion? I have a very
simple solution for those who want change. Purchase any and all things that
irritate you. You'd like to protect the poor mink then anty up and pay the
farmer the going rate and everyone is happy. Not to happy about a development
then feel free to purchase the ground and use it your own way. No violence just
step up and put your but on the line. Until then if the law is on the books
enforce it or change it. Crush criminals and we might see a safer environment
for all! If you don't like the law or situation step up and change things. Put
your money where your heart is and we'll see how passionate you really are.
Criminals should go to jail!
@holister7 I'm no animal rights person, I do feel fur is wrong. But to the point
you say the fur industry is the only business profiting in this poor economic
time. A. This is not true many businesses are still prosperous. B. The fur
industry has seen a decline in sales by 80% this last year alone. This isn't
even counting the decline from years prior. It's a failing industry. I'd
strongly suggest pulling out any investment in it and putting it into something
more profitable such as electromamograms I predict a rise in that soon.
There are good and bad in all groups of people in our society. There are good
and bad cops, there are good and bad judges, teachers, lawyers, chefs, and auto
mechanics. The list could go on and on. Bottom line there are good and bad
farmers and good and bad animal rights supporters. You can't label someone just
because they fit into a group any more than you should profile someone just
because of their race. I know for a fact that mink can survive in the wild. I
have seen mink that had escaped from pens years ago prior to all this present
day stuff that were surviving in the wild. Of course I am only talking of a few
and not the thousands which I am sure could not all survive. The argument about
the animal rights people buying all the mink from the farmers is ridiculous.
The farmers would just use the money to buy more or raise more mink. I don't
support releasing or raising mink. I hope these kids are not guilty and I do
hope they find the real guilty people so these kids can be left alone.
Dear Steve Olsen,You took my comment out of context. I did not mean to say
that the fur industry is THE ONLY business profitting. There are many industries
that are profitting also during this economic hardship. I was just pointing out
that the fur industry is not failing at all like Intheend states. The sales have
not decreased 80% from last year. In fact they are staying relatively similar to
that of last year and the year before. There is a difference of ten to fifteen
dollars between what a pelt is worth now and what it was worth last year.
I find it interesting that these two boys were indicted and both said they are
not guilty. I sure hope the feds have more hard evidence than maybe a he said
or she said sort of thing. So because of that, these two boys have to wait in
jail for a couple of months till their trial. It just does not seem right.I hope they are not just doing this to these boys just to set some sort of
example to the animal rights community or because they need to hurry and get
this case solved, cause people are getting sick of it. They do need to get this
case solved but not at the expense of ruining two young men's lives. If they
are guilty and if the feds do have the hard evidence against these boys, then
why did they harass the other two kids? I'm sure this case is far from being
over and we will be reading about it for months to come. I also hope that if
these kids are innocent that the feds are forced to pay them some kind of
retribution for the damages they have caused them.
Why does the ALF keep killing animals? thousands of mink, 2500 chickens, 60
raptors in a fire in Italy. Animal lovers? B.S. You selfish, confused, angry
people need to stop being such hypocrites. When your actions suffocate and
torture animals, how do you justify it? Grow up.
I read over these comments and immediately become embarrassed about being a
member of the human species. All I seem to deduce from everyone's
comments are the following:Law iz good.Terrorizts r stupid.Words cannot express my contempt for the human race.
Mink released from mink farm. Mink get run over by cars and killed by
predators. Is Utah even a viable habitat for mink? Way to drive your point
home guys. I'm in no way advocating the wearing of fur, but is this a logical