No one should be surprised by this latest news. Huntsman hasn't acted like a
conservative since pretending to be one to win his first election. State
conservatives need to remember next time not to be blinded by monied family
interest and name recognition and elect a true conservative after Jon boy moves
on to the national arena, probably after officially switching party affiliation.
Kudos to Governor Huntsman.Governors aren't elected to serve
their party. They're elected by the people to serve the people.If
legislators want an object lesson on just who the people support - look at the
polls. Compare the people's satisfaction with Huntsman v. legislators. You'll
see that the people of Utah think Huntsman is doing a great job. The
legislators do not fare so well.
Utah Bill. If I had to guess you are likely part of the same crowd that
regularly points out the failings of the Bush Administration. I join you in
this.A hint. John Huntsman is another neo-conservative big
government type. He is a cynic to good government.
Some day folks will look back and realize Gov. Huntsman had the best interests
of the state in mind when he declared his position on these proposals.The only people that stood to benefit from the recent grandstanding and
nativist posturing are folks like Gayle Ruzicka, LaVar Christensen, Chris
Buttars and Paul Mero ... folks who've made their careers hounding too many
otherwise decent Utahns into thinking that the rest of the country is going to
hell in a handbasket. It ain't. It hasn't. And plenty of us outside Utah
would appreciate the opportunity to visit and spend money without feeling
guilty.Again, thanks Gov. Huntsman. It's reassuring to know there
are a few grown-ups at the wheel. If only Gayle, LaVar, Chris and Paul could
get a clue and drive their little clown car over somewhere that actually misses
having a three-ring circus in town.
It's telling how the DN presents this article. Is the Governor really not
conservative enough, or is the legislature overly conservative? There are two
sides to every story and once again the DN gives us only one.
Please explain, Bob, the broad Republican/conservative standard by which we
judge any politican as being conservative. Help us understand how anyone would
regard Jr as being conservative. Maybe he is to you and a few other leftists,
but at least a few of us know what he really is--a liberal.Utahns
voted for him for three reasons: Huntsman family name (number one reason),
Republican party affiliation (number 2), and Mormon (reason 3).
my heck, utah is full of fruit cakes,thank god for moderation in the
pursuit of good government, a true virtue, rather then extremism in the pursuit
of the radical few, a vice.
Gov. Huntsman, unlike the legislature, has been able to get beyond the whole
"more conservative than thou" attitude that seems to have gripped the Republican
party here. His stance on civil unions, the Western Climate Initiative, and
other issues, is more reflective of the public at large than of his party. I
give him great credit for that. I voted for Matheson in 2004, but have been
very impressed with Gov. Huntsman in his first term and voted for him in 2008.
No doubt to the the hard right in the Utah Republican Party, as evidenced by
some of the posts here, my support will be further evidence of how far Gov.
Huntsman has strayed off the reservation. But I was joined by 78% of the voters
in my decision. If, as No Surprise claims, the "true conservatives" in the
state choose one of their own in the future, I suspect they will be sorely
disappointed in the outcome, since the rest of us won't vote for one. And I can
only hope that when Gov. Huntsman finishes his term he moves on to national
office, regardless of pary affiliation. We desparately need his approach at
Gov Hunstman has never been a Republican.... I can't believe he didn't get
challenged in this last election by a Republican. Utahn's think that just
because his dad is a good staunch Republican, his kids are too... Fact is most
of his kids are not. Jon Jr is a RINO, a several other of his kids are open
Democrats and big Obama supporters.
The guv is not a progressivist. He's a populist. He doesn't study the issues.
He studies where people are, tests the wind, and goes that way. Nolan Karras
would have been a much better conservative.
This is outrageous. The governor refused to appoint a woman to replace the only
woman on the Board of Pardons. At least 40% of the prison population is female,
yet the governor refuses to appoint even one woman to the board.
When you hire or replace someone you find the best person for the job. Please
don't think that because a woman or man had the job before that they should be
replaced by the same. This goes for gender, race, religion ... quotas are just
a form of reverse descrimination.
Jane is absolutely correct. We are not talking about quotas. Jane did not say
that 40% of the board must be women, she said that there should be A woman on
the board. I completely agree.
I think you answered your own question by stating #3, the fact that Huntsman is
mormon. Mormon Utah is normally under the impression that mormon = republican
and will cast their votes on the candidates religion, giving little thought to a
politician's stance on the issues.
Anyone who ever thought Gov Huntsman was a conservative has not been paying
attention to what he does. He is neither(1) a republican OR(2) conservativeHe's really a liberal democrat.
Republican John Dougall says, "[Gov. Huntsman's] civil unions sound like
gay marriage to me."Oh well, so much for compromise.Opinion polls indicate that most Americans would be agreeable to civil unions
for Gay couples. Even the LDS church has suggested that civil unions would be
acceptable. And as far as I'm concerned, if civil unions grant Gay couples the
same legal benefits and responsibilities as marriage, I'm not going to quibble
over what it's called.But John Dougall doesn't want to compromise. I
guess it's true what Andrew Sullivan said: "The forces against marriage equality
are also adamantly against civil unions for Gay people. And they have no
intention of allowing Gay couples any civil recognition, because we are an
emblem of sin to them."As law-abiding, taxpaying Gay Americans, we
contribute our fair share. Will we forever be denied a place at the table?
Sadly, this headline is pretty funny, as if its never before occurred to anyone
that maybe Governor Huntsman isnt as conservative as people thought. In many
areas he has been very liberal for a long time. He has abandoned his core
principles, and instead follows whatever political winds might give him the most
popularity with a given target audience. Thats a sorry excuse for leadership.
He apparently thinks that the safest group to offend is the ones who elected
him in the first place.
All he needs to do is get rid of the Utah Use Tax on stuff you buy on the
Internet (which, yes, I pay because I'm honest).
I'm not voting for Huntsman next election. Civil unions? No thanks.
You are either funny or missing a brain. Sorry to break it to you, but if
someone is registered as a Republican, they are Republican. And just because
they don't agree with you on all your pet ideas, that doesn't make them not
conservative. You don't get to define what conservatism is.And by
the way, the Utah idea of calling someone a liberal democrat as the ultimate
insult is downright laughable. What is that, a 5th-grade mentality?
I only hope that hunts/kennedy/man keeps his promise and doesn't run for a third
term. I hope the repubs nominate a conservative.
Huntsman is whatever you want him to be.He wants to be a politician on the
national stage, and will be whatever he needs to be in order to achieve that
Jon ought to cut Jr. off from the Trust Fund and make him go get a job like all
the rest of us poor schlocks that he wants to lead into Socialism. Huntsman
isn't even a RINO Republican any more. He's an outright
Progressive/Socialist/Nazi.Utahns are idiots. I saw this one coming
five years ago. I can truthfully say that I never voted for Huntsman and never
Conservative philosophy is about smaller government. Gay marriage/civil unions
has nothing to with that philosophy, that is a moral choice. You can support
smaller government and civil unions and be a conservative.
I hope that Governor Huntsman's example can lead other moderate Mormons to step
forward and support equality and denounce public policies that discriminate
against the gay community. Moderate LDS have been silent too long. Huntsman has
shown himself to be a man of character who is willing to stand up for what he
Hunstman never stands up for what he believes.He claimed he believed
in vouchers but he never stood up fought for them.I not sure he
really believes in anything,He just a useless rich kid given a job
and does whatever seems most popular, regardless of whatever he believes,
assuming he actually believes anything.He never ACTS like he
believes in something.In some circles that is considered being a
Hell yeah! Go Governor!
I admire Governor Huntsman more and more for his principled stand on many
issues. Go, Guv!!
Only in Utah can the Governor make a bad political move by standing up for
liberty and equality for all citizens.Only among the Utahn fascists
is this possible.
Mr. Anonymous, when you say Utahns are idiots, you have to obviously include
yourself in that category, however, I disagree and think that is a very
Gov Huntsman is not conservative - his liberal leanings are now receiving the
spotlight of scrutiny that they deserve. I predict he'll not amount to much
after his term even if he is appointed by Obama to a position. Going against
what's right (true conservative principles) will take him nowhere.
Huntsman wants more than he has - hence his steady move over the years to the
leftist liberal agenda. He will give up principles he knows are right for a
fleeting taste of fame and glory. Very sad.
in sheep's clothing. I continue to be grateful I didn't vote for the jerk.