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Funding cuts may force release of 550 inmates

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  • Whiggy
    Feb. 10, 2009 12:51 p.m.

    This is absolutely shameful. The whole purpose of the government is to protect the public. If the legislature refuses to fund the corrections system, prisoners will be released and the crime rate will skyrocket. Criminals will get the message that if they commit crimes, they will not be held accountable because they will not go to prison.

  • territalks
    Feb. 10, 2009 1:16 p.m.

    what x-actly is the goverment protecting us from in these cases? i don't know what the # s are in this state but many of the prison population consists of crimes that hurt nobody x cept the person incarcerated such as marijuana further there are many crimes that were nonviolent such as hot checks etc.why don't we have a system for these type of crimes in whichj the responsible parties must support there own selves while being punished.they are not a threat to society and why should the tax payers suport them? we also should change some laws as to what you go to prison for.yes you are going to see an increase in crime because the people being released must also support themselves and with all the layoffs already taking effect in this country how will they do that? we need to reform the prison system in ways that will not leave the hardworking taxpayers footing the bill!criminals won't think they are not accountable/because they don't go to prison-prison already makes them unaccountable.[they eat sleep and play on the taxpayers dollar GUARANTEED!]

  • buy some cots
    Feb. 10, 2009 4:06 p.m.

    Buy some cots and give 'em another roommate. I get tired of hearing that the only choices we have are either to spend more or "let prisoners go free and take away the education of our children." Cut administration costs and cut any perks that prisoners get. Give the prisoners cheaper food, take away their cable TV, and pack 'em in a little tighter. It's a prison, not a hotel.

  • Good idea!
    Feb. 10, 2009 4:35 p.m.

    Why don't we just put them in tents like they do in Az. Works out great for them!

  • AMEN
    Feb. 10, 2009 4:47 p.m.

    Sheriff Joe let's his inmates sleep on cots...maybe they would think twice if they knew they were going to be camping out for the winter in SLC.

  • Anonymous
    Feb. 10, 2009 5:17 p.m.

    Send them to Iraq to finsh there sentence. 3 year dudy. Maybe when the come back the will have more respect for life...

  • John Charity Spring
    Feb. 10, 2009 7:27 p.m.

    If territalks ran this State, criminals would be allowed to raom at large. We cannot allow these new fangled notions of loving everybody no matter how much they harm society to override goog old fashioned punishment of criminals.

  • What a laugh
    Feb. 11, 2009 5:54 a.m.

    We in Utah are being duped. At the very same time we are housing over a thousand inmates for ICE and deportees for federal government, our esteemed prison system wants to turn loose convicted criminals. What should be done is that the federal prisoners be put in a detention camp surround by fences in tents and keep the criminals in jail. The jail should not be allowed to overturn convictions by trial. It is ahborant that our jail system allows this, we spend thousands of dollars to convict criminals then the jails just turn them loose on the public. If any thing is done, send the federal prisoners to federal prisons to house. Then cut the ammenities to bread and water and hard time as prescribed by law. Criminals rights are restricted to obeying prison rules and constituional laws are in abeyance until time is served. The prisons have no right to overturn our justice system to suit their failings.

  • let it be
    Feb. 11, 2009 6:39 a.m.

    Given that people are in lockup for writing bad checks, using small amounts of drugs, or in other words for crimes which they could just as well be on home confinement, using a gps monitor instead, why not let a lot of them go, the non violent ones, put them on home confinement? It would be better for them and it would be better for us.

  • IF WE ....
    Feb. 11, 2009 7:09 a.m.

    Can't afford to house and feed them - don't want to release them back out into society...Looks like the death penalty should be implemented a little more liberally to help offset the overcrowding in Utah.

  • Carl
    Feb. 11, 2009 8:54 a.m.

    We are slip sliding away.....

  • If you treat them like animals..
    Feb. 11, 2009 9:33 a.m.

    If you treat them like animals... guess what? That's exactly what they'll become. Of course prison is a punishment, but how far are we willing to go to "punish"?... I'm already starting to hear the de-humanizing of convicted criminals. Some of the posts read: "let the inmates sleep in cots"... "put them in tents"... "ration them with bread and water"... "implement the death penalty more liberally"... Look, times are tough. And when times get hard our first instinct is to lash out. But please people, let's not lose our civility. In the end, that may be all we can take with us.

  • Whiggy
    Feb. 11, 2009 9:49 a.m.

    It is not better to let forgers, theifs, and other "property crimes" defendants out of prison. These people cause a tremendous amount of damage to people's lives. A minor stab wound heals much faster than identity theft does.

  • Anonymous
    Feb. 11, 2009 10:19 a.m.

    Hey "Whiggy", & "John Charity Spring":
    There is this thing on your computer called a "Spell Check". Try using it!

  • Whiggy?!?
    Feb. 11, 2009 10:34 a.m.

    Whiggy, weren't you the one defending illegal immigrants in your posting on another story? Don't you think that a disproportionate amount of forgery and theft in this country is committed by those entering illegally? Or else how could they get a drivers license, or proper employment? I wonder how much jail space is occupied by Mexican nationals.

    I'd be curious to see what the real problem is with "overcrowding". Why not just fit more to a room, or have another row of bunks? Heavens forbid that these inmates' acccommadations are less spacious.

  • Anonymous
    Feb. 11, 2009 10:34 a.m.

    IF WE .... | 7:09 a.m I like death is the ultimate conservative solution to crime and poverty. We can't feed you, house you are provide basic medical care. What is the silent solution?

  • bob
    Feb. 11, 2009 10:53 a.m.

    go to a 12 bed system, when # 13 goes in #12 gets fatal shot. we would never have more than 12 inmates. ever again.

  • Sherriff Joe...
    Feb. 11, 2009 11:27 a.m.

    Most have it right. Arizona Sheriff has it right. Put them in Quonset huts on the south west desert near St.George Area where it is warmer. I lived that way in WW2 Navy and got along fine on spam and beans, why cant they do the same. Find cheaper ways to house them. Government spends way too much money, WAY TOO MUCH MONEY ON PRISONS AND PRISONERS, HEAR ME FOLKS, WAY TO MUCH MONEY IS BEING SPENT ON PRISONS AND PRISONERS. dO NOT RELEASE THEM EARLY, SPEND LESS AND KEEP EM TO SERVE THEIR TIME.

    WHY CANT WE GET THE POINT ACROSS TO OUR GOVERNMENT FOLKS?

  • SLC gal
    Feb. 11, 2009 11:29 a.m.

    Maybe there should be more focus on those who are about to be released, provided them resources so they are productive once they are released back into society. I bet there are more then a few that are repeat offenders.

  • Johny Fairplay
    Feb. 11, 2009 11:42 a.m.

    If you've got to do it release non-violent offenders only.

  • Whiggy
    Feb. 11, 2009 1:21 p.m.

    I do not support letting illegal immigrants break the law. My comment on the other story was not meant to support illegal activity, it was meant to encourage a respectful dialog on the issue.

  • RE Sherriff Joe
    Feb. 11, 2009 5:09 p.m.

    Is not always right. Some of the $$$ he is saving, is being spent on some costly lawsuits....... Ever heard of the ACLU???

  • QBA.24
    Feb. 17, 2009 1:16 a.m.

    SOME OF YOU PEOPLE SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOUR SELVES.
    DEATH PENALTY?BREAD WATER? TENTS.?
    CONVICTS ARENT JUST A NUMBER ALSO ON THAT NOTE THEY ARE STiLL HUMAN AND SOME DECENT HUMANS MAKE MISTAKES..
    YOU TALK AS iF THEY ARE ANIMALS.
    ;BEFORE YOU GO POINTING FINGERS MAKE SURE YOUR HANDS ARE CLEAN;
    MY HUSBAND IS AT USP. FOR A NON VIOLENT CRIME.
    AND HE HAS LEARNED HIS LEASON WITH OUT THE NEED OF 'BREAD AND WATER'.
    GRANTED THAT JUST RELEASING CONVICTS. WILL NO DOUBT BE A HORRIBLE MISTAKE . BUT WHAT OTHER RATIONAL/MORAL CLAUSE DO WE HAVE?
    'THE DEATH PENALTY' 'IRAQ'
    PEOPLE GET A GRIP.

  • Angry
    Feb. 18, 2009 9:16 p.m.

    I think that the state should look at each case
    in question, alot of inmates are being held in lew
    of restitution. So we the tax payer are spending
    46,ooo dollars a year to keep pepole in prison who
    owe money to the state. Make perfect sense to me

  • a better way
    Feb. 26, 2009 12:47 p.m.

    You all talk of locking criminals up, but you have no idea what hard time does to someone who just needs help. that is why we call it CORRECTIONS not WAREHOUSING!! There are those in there that want to change - they should be going through the system and releasing those indivuals into programs. There are some that will not change and they need to stay, but there are alot that do and funding to help them change is being cut. This needs to be addressed because if it is not, we are all in big trouble. It think the answer is much shorter sentences(much less cost) and more programs and therapy. This way we get people the help they need to change so that when they do get out, we won't have to lock ourselves and our children in the house. someone who truly is working and wants to change only needs about 1.5-2 years to do it. Lets get back to correcting and out of the stone age of just bread water and through away the key. They are people too, just need more help than the rest of us.

  • The truth
    Feb. 26, 2009 6:47 p.m.

    The truth is we are spending to much money on those in jail. Period. It's not supposed to be a hotel, it's prison. So whats the point of spending so many of our tax dollars for jailbirds when there are better things in this country to be spending it on right now. I also wonder why some get special treatment and why more of the petty criminals can't just be put on house arrest. And in case you didnt know, taxpayers pay approximately 19,000 dollars a year for EVERY inmate for things such as enjoyment (weight facilities), to medical bills. I believe the money should be coming out of their pockets just like it comes out of mine when I go to the doctor or to the gym.

  • uintah co
    March 7, 2009 1:12 a.m.

    My fiances Now ex husband RAPED HER daughter and beat the other kids DCFS Theatened her with arrest every time she tried to turn him in for the abuse,so for you people to say that these people are wronged in this is insane.Here in vernal,ut. DCFS stands for (Department of Child and Family Separations)if you look you will find that they have a website for caseworkers only that has photos of children and I quote "Not Yet Taken" these prisoners are one thing and some of them never deserve to see light again in there lives but another problem BIG problem is these idiots with badges that play at being legal and legit but use the law to thier own means these are the ones that are worse than every other criminal out there they are right up there with child abusers and sex offenders

  • s.c
    March 18, 2009 6:29 p.m.

    untill it's your family member who is in there for 8 years don't be so quick to Judge!

  • j.m
    March 27, 2009 1:47 a.m.

    Besides having to do time, my friend is forever going to be seen as a sex offender because he forgot to ask for I.D. from a 16 year old promiscuous girl, who, by the way, was already a teenage mother. She also testified that it was consensual. So I totally agree that some of our laws and officials should be re-evaluated,especially the public defenders who just want to make a quick $500 dollars by convincing their clients to plead guilty by promising little jail time and a few years of probation. I agree with s.c, don't be to quick to judge.

  • m.p.
    March 28, 2009 5:34 a.m.

    I love the previous comment, I 100% agree with the above person's comment, very true!!!