The writer reports this:"Hatch said, however, he would prefer that
the BCS fix its problems before the matter goes to the courts or Congress
because they should be focused on bigger problems that are facing the
nation."Isn't that basically saying that Congress should be focusing
on the big problems that the nation faces but, by golly, Congress may have to
set that aside to take care of the intransigent BCS?Okay, I am not
very good a prioritization either. Here I am posting on the Reader Comments,
Hatch should be commended for drawing attention to the travesty that is the BCS.
As I understand it, he isn't saying Congress or the courts should fix the
problem. He is calling on the BCS and the universities to clean up their act. I
don't know if Utah could have beat Florida. The Utes sure deserved a shot,
though. That much is certain. The BCS is a joke.
With all the problems in this country Orrin, wouldn't your time be better spent
Who cares if they could beat Florida? Could they beat Texas or USC? Why is
Florida always the standard? Well, because they were the BCS champ. Using them
as the measuring stick only validifies what the BCS has done.
I believe that Utah could have matched up with any team in the country. But we
will never know will we. At least they deserved a shot at a national
championship. If basketball can have a playoff system, why not football? They
are the only sport that still has a "Mythical National Champion"!!!
give me a break. yeah the BCS is fixed and cheats out a bunch of people but
honestly i am a little embarrassed by this and by AG Shurtleff for doing all
this. don't get me wrong the Utes are number 1 and should be the Champs but come
on its college football. there are more important things that need to be taken
care of by men using our money. we the people are paying for the investigating
and legal battles that will happen from this.
Thats is exactly what Senator Hatch is saying here. Congress' priorities should
be elsewhere so he's asking the BCS to straighten itself out so the Government
doesn't have to.
The triumphs and failings of college football are not a matter of national
security. The presence or absence of Utah's football team from the BCS
championship game will not determine whether our economy survives or
collapses.For some, college football is a temporary escape from a
bitter reality in which government has played no small part. As
such, college football should not be subject to the meddlings of one disgruntled
fan, whether that fan is Orrin Hatch or Joe Sixpack.
Sure there are bigger problems facing our country, but this is one that we can
actually fix rather quickly. This has gone on way too long! Why would the
current BCS conferences want to change when they get such an advantage in
recruiting (informing the blue chip recruit that he can not play for a notional
championship if he goes to Utah, BYU, or Boise State)and the large amounts of
money from the BCS Bowl games. Thanks Senator Hatch!!
The question isn't whether Utah could have beaten Florida or USC or Texas. The
question is if any of those teams could have beaten Utah.
The BSC will watch out for their own and still give the 6 BSC confrences the
advantage in a playoff. All the confrences should have input and equal weight.
The + 1 modle stinks. A 4 team playoff stinks. Even an 8 team playoff stinks.
There should be at least a 16 team playoff. If we had a playoff the championship
game would be the second, if not the first, next to the super bowl, as a
sporting event in the USA. Thee are no good excuces for not having a playoff
except in the minds of thoes who control the BCS and who want all the money.
Some entity other than the BSC, like the NCAA, should have the final say. The
NCAA does a pretty good job with the basketball tournament.
It's all about money and power. It's the prime example of a "good-ole-boys"
club that permeates society. What can we do about it? Just go out and punch em
in the month every chance you get . . . just like Utah did on Jan 2.
Threaten the money-monger BCS top guys with jail time and see what happens! If
it's criminal, why not?
errr "mouth" not "month". (typo in my previous comment)
Orin Hatch makes a statement about something. He is too old and too tired to do
anything but talk. He has been basically useless as a senator for the last 20
years. I think he did some good work when he was head of the committee. Now he
does nothing. He is on the BCS bandwagon because he can just talk. If you want
him to act, people you will have to wait a looooooooong time. He only shows up
when he is up for reelection. We are stuck with him until he dies. At least Bob
Bennett has done a couple of useful things lately. Utah is not well
Thank-you Senator Hatch! While others grumble that there are more important
things to do you hit it right on. The money that is being excluded for the
non-BCS conferences is enormous. The schools can earn that money if they can
play in those big bowl games. If not fair citizens, it's YOUR tax dollars that
will need to be spent. The athletic programs bring dollars to the Universities
for more things than just athletics. So while it was a few words from a powerful
Senator, the words spoken could really help all Universities achieve fairness
and revenue that they deserve based on their records and performance. Thank-you once again Senator HatchThank-you to the U Football team for
busting the BCS and putting the issue squarely on the table.Thank-you for
being the TRUE National Champions!!GO UTES!!!
This is about big $$$$$$$, not just a game. Take it to them Orrin!
Besides, with the makeup of THIS congress, I'd like them to be
preoccupied with something so they don't screw up the country too horribly.
why does utah have to prove that they could beat texas, usc and florida...could
any of those schools beat ALL of the other teams too? why is it always cold utah
beat them? or could utah beat them? why not-utah beat everybody in front of them
, when no other team did the same. including 4 in the top 25. and alabama in the
sugar bowl. could texas beat sc? could sc beat florida? could florida beat utah?
...who knows-EXCEPT that UTAH won all their games.
orrin, please go back to where you came from - you have worn out your welcome
While the senior senator is giving impassioned speeches on the floor of the U.S.
Senate about how un-American and vile the BCS is, this same paper reported this
week that the U of U, led by Michael Young, is doing its best to get into the
BCS and is lobbying for a meeting with the BCS brass to persuade them that the
MWC deserves a spot. Which is it? Seems like if you're one of the conferences on
the inside, the view looks pretty good.
Correction . . . It's all about money and power. It's the prime example
of a "good-ole-boys" club that permeates society. What can we do about it?
Just go out and punch em in the mouth every chance you get . . . just like Utah
did on Jan 2.
The NCAA makes the decision when a school qualifies to be a Division 1 School.
They have guidelines. Once the school has met those guidelines, they should be
able to work their way to the top. College sports being tied to educational
institutions should be the last place for unjustified bias. Have a playoff..the
big heavier weighted schools will be there with the majority of the teams
anyway, but give everyone an equal chance...the American way. Thanks Orrin
you've done a lot of good for Utah and its citizens. You've done more than those
who come for six months, get a drivers license and declare themselves Utah
citizens, get their benefits and leave. Your heart is here and here is where you
I watched the Sugar Bowl with a close friend of mine, who holds a PhD in
sociology. He pointed out to me during the game that, regardless of how
dominating the University of Utah might win, that they would be denied a
national championship because, in sociological terms, they (and other non-BCS
teams) are the victims of discrimination. The way that
discrimination works is, those in control continually change the rules of the
game. When the victim meets the unusually difficult standards set by those in
control, then the rules of the game get changed so the victim still cannot
attain the desired results. Unfortunately, we in America know all too well
about discrimination against certain racial and religious groups. In this case
it's been extended to the athletic field.
Way to go Orin!!!! You are the man. Way to stand up for your state and your
Look, there cannot be playoffs - ever.There are only so many weeks
and every week a game can be played is already taken - get it?You
cannot add more games - ever. Same reason + who's going to fill all
those big stadiums after the semester? Alumni? Come on?You think
students are just going to "hang-out" on campus when there's no classes? Never
happen.You cannot cut games - ever. Football is a
revenue producing sport. It pays (in part) for all the other sports. If 8
teams are in a playoff, that means 112 ARE NOT. Who's going to cover the losses
of those schools if they have to cut their schedule to make room for
playoffs?By the way, if you think revenue sharing will, sober up. A
3 week playoff will eliminate 168 games. All the playoffs in the world will not
cover a loss that big.These are the core obstacles and there is no
way around them. It's been studied to death. However, if someone knows a way to
have playoffs without changing the number of games, the schedule or using polls,
please tell us.The world is waiting.
Jeeze, folks. Several teams have gone undefeated through the years and not
awarded anything. Talk to Penn State. Talk to Auburn. Take to Alabama. Talk
to Boston College, Washington, Virginia, Wake forest, Montana: the list is
long. Yes its unfair that you got little respect. You had a great team and a
GREAT Sugar Bowl whipping of Alabama, something the National Champs couldnt do.
But, its done. The sooner you move on, the better.
While I agree that a playoff is the ultimate solution, I have a great deal of
trepidation over our government getting involved. Aren't there more important
and constitutionally based things for government to worry about?
What difference does it make if there are "more important" things to spend money
and time on? There are certainly "more important" things for cops to do than
cite someone for 10 over the speed limit, but we still benefit as a society when
all laws, including the "less important" ones are enforced.With the
huge amount of money and institutional inequity involved, the BCS monopoly is
certainly worthy of attention, especially if laws are being broken, even if
there are "more important" items on the agenda. National security and economic
stability will always be among, if not the most important issues for our
government to face. Should every other issue be ignored because they are less
There are four weeks from the end of the football season in Nov. until the
championship game in Jan. There could be a playoff game each of the four weeks
and it woulw be much better than the teams all practicing and getting stale for
4 weeks. The BCS college presidents say they are concerned the players will
miss too much school. Bull, how many days of school are there in December they
just want to continue their liscence to steal which is what they are doing.
There only needs to be a playoff for 8 teams with 4 more playing in and you have
the playoff. Lets get some honesty here.
Uh not to point out the obvious but if you need a model just look at the rest of
college football that isn't D1. DIAA, DII, and DIII all have a playoff. The
argument that D1 cannot fit the extra games into its schedule has never held any
logic when the rest of college football does it every year.
to There can be a playoffEver heard of Finals, they are scheduled for 4 to
6 days in Mid-December. These football are called Student-Athletes, not
the economy is already messed up; so lets fix the BCS.
The economy is messed up - so let's ignore every other problem in our country.
It seems everytime I hear Orrin speak I like him less. Yes the BCS is screwed
up, but it's just a game. He's just pandering to his constituents. What a
waste of time.
where's the presidential order to eliminate the BS-C by next week??? Obama
orders federal funding for foreign abortions but he cannot get rid of the BSC???
murder is okay but extortion and robbery are okay??? i see how this
administration works....good job Uncle Orrin!!!!
The BCS is "just a game" only to extremely naive and uninformed people. To the
schools that benefit from the monopoly, and to those that are hoping for BCS
crumbs, it's not just a game at all. It's tremendously huge amounts of money
and big business. Any other large business that isn't "just a game" gets
scrutinized for unfair business practices - why not the BCS just because it
Hatch is such a media magnet. He is only after attention. Where was this when it
all mattered a few months ago or a few years ago? Hatch knows he can talk about
this now and get a lot of play in the media. Typical Hatch. Only concerned with
propping himself up.Where were you Uncle Orin? Oh yeah, you live in
Virginia year round.
How is the BCS a monopoly? BYU and Utah do not have to play in it if they do not
want to. There is Division I-AA. All 3 Divison 1 in-state teams chose and agreed
to the system. They can even start their own league if they wanted to. Orrin
Hatch is a RINO and and embarrassment to the state. What an anti- free
enterprise idea he has... Legislate the BCS?
Can we please stop complaining about how "Congress/Senators/AG should focus on
the bigger problems!" Using this flawed logic, 98% of Congress' work should be
set aside to work on poverty, war, etc. The facts are:(1) Congress
has to deal with everything, and the BCS controversy involves more jobs, money,
and fundamental fairness than most of what they deal with. This IS
important.(2) Congress has direct constitutional authority to
regulate interstate commerce, the most important part of which is antitrust
enforcement (A1, S8)(3) College football is entertainment, but it is
also a huge business. The money generated by the FBS teams dwarfs the income of
many other businesses Congress is required to regulate.
Sen. Hatch is fighting for the future tens of millions of dollars that would
flow to this state and some of its Universities both public and private. Why is
that not important? If the MWC had an auto bid or was allowed to compete in a
playoff the financial reward would be HUGE.
The UTES will never challenge for a National Championship again anyways! 2 years
of luck, fools nobody! You'll never be one of the ELITE!GO USC
College football is part of our history, our national past-time. College
football is part of our culture. College football generates huge amounts of
dollars, and helps thousands of other businesses across the country from
restaurants, gas stations, clothing suppliers and manufacturers, sod farms,
fertilizer manufacturers, athletic support staff,...not to mention all the
businesses and products that are advertised on tv. To pretend that
college football, and its attendant playoff system and crowning of a national
champion is not important is quite naive. College football is HUGE! Of course
congress and the courts should be involved. WHY HAVEN"T THEY FIXED THIS SHAM
BEFORE NOW?!! WHAT IS TAKING CONGRESS SO LONG!!!??
The u finished fourth in the nation, they didn't come close to winning the NC.
They never have and never will...we have been waiting for more than 100
years...the mighty yewts...pathetic!!
Did Hatch attend The Sugar Bowl?The Gov. did NOT.What a couple of
The BCS is a non-profit, amateur athletic association of associations. Congress
has no business getting involved in it. It works perfectly just the way it is.
The strength of a Conference is taken into account when computing a team's
rankings. The Strength of a team's schedule is also taken into account. The
Polls are completed by coaches and sports writers and people who are experts in
the area. The MWC and the WAC have not been around long enough to build up good
records against other, older Conferences. All your Y-ning t-Uting your own
horns isn't going to change that, you bunch of crybabies! Hatch is an idiot.
Antitrust laws do not apply to non-profit, amateur athletic organizations, just
as they don't apply to non-profit Church organizations! Utah has NO legitimate
claim on Florida's National Championship, just as BYU has no legitimate claim on
Miami's 1984 National Championship! Get a life you bunch of dishonest
To win the national championship you have to play IN the National Championship
game... Simply having the best record does not validate national champions...
Sorry, Hatch. Tom Hanks already did that "un-American" game!
I'm ith 8:15, here we are getting sucked into believing that anything anyone
says on these posts is important. However, as a BYU alumni and old die hard blue
fan who follows it all even though I can't get any of the games on TV, (Canada)I
must admit that Utah had a very impressive year and no doubt needed to be
considered a national champion, congratulations. Can anyone tell me why BCS
doesn't follow the basketball championship format?Games in the sweet 16
and the elite 8 and the final 4 could be called by the traditional bowl names,
making plenty of games (28 plus a final)(tons of money) and creating far more
interest. I would be interested in the "Motor City" bowl if it decided the
central conference finalist far more than if it were just a couple of no-name
teams from Illinois or Wisconsin satisfiyng some sponsors ego or greed in
"their" bowl. Makes sense to me, but then it is a pretty simple plan.
I would love to see the BCS get into legal trouble. That would be the only thing
that would get us a playoff. A 16-team playoff would be the best.GO
What is more American than hoarding the big bucks? The BCS and NCAA are just
getting athletes ready for the multi-million dollar contracts pro sports will
offer them. Its all about the money.The networks, the BCS schools and their
coaches are getting rich off the current system.
The government can't do anything. The only thing that can change it is if the
NCAA takes some responsibility and takes over its own postseason, effectively
disenfranchising the BCS (which it has the power to do, but Brand doesn't have
the courage to do it).
Na Na Na Hey Hey SEC # 1, What's all the cring for, Can't walk the walk so ya'll
beat Alabama (Who didn't want to be there) so what! WHO CARES! Utah had it's 15
min of FAME, It's over, the SEC is still is # 1 three years in a row. Quit
whining and get a better conference that's all. The MWC an't good enough to get
in, quit playing with the NM, or who's else in this pee-wee conference. Better
yet GO INDENPENDANT so Utah can play in the NC game. ND is indenpendant and when
they earn it they get to play.
The Bogus Chump System was formed a SEC commissioner and is now run by ACC
commissioner. It favors east coast conferences such as the The Easy, the Awful
Coaster Conference, and the Secondary Eastern Conference. Of the course the BCS
chump was Flawdah that trounced the mighty Citadel. And of course Flawdah has
scheduled Charleston Southern a Division II team this coming September. East
coast bias is in charge of college football.
I think we should keep the BCS ranking and the bowl games and add a 32 team
playoff bracket and have each of your first round games at your smaller
bowls.Then your second round games played at your bigger bowls and then your
quarter finals at the Rose, Fiesta, Orange, and Sugar Bowl.Then you got the BCS
Championship and the there will be no arguing over who was the real champion
because it will be proven. I think at the end of the regular season you take
your top 32 and starting with the number one school let them pick what bowl they
want to play in and the number 32 team would have to go there and play them.
Then let number number two team pick what bowl game and number 31 would have to
go there and play them. Then after they play round one do the same thing with
round 2. I feel lt would be better for the cities of the smaller bowls to have
big name schools go there and play. This way we can keep the BCS rankings and
still have your bowl games.