Attention writersThe schedule makers are listening.Alta
and Bingham both play each other AND Cottonwood AND Timpview. Break
out the popcorn, I'll be all over those games.But one question. IF
cottonwood and Tiumpview both show well against Alta and Bingham does that mean
that 4A really HAS been the best classification the last 2 years?
is only scheduled to play Alta and that might change.. the bingham game had to
be cancelled because UHSSA changed the regions again and added provo back in the
region.but for now, Alta vs. Timpview is on...
It doesnt matter because PG will beat you both next year and you are both on
schedule. Returning 16 starters from a 10-2 team. Should be a good year and a
new, tough 5A Region!!! Anyway Alta, TV, Cottonwood, Bingham and PG will be
strong. Getting ready for a great year in football. Congrats again TV and
Alta. You are the favorites until beaten.
Please tell me you're joking... I had to listen to smack from PG all season.
"Were going to own 5A" "were the darkhorse and we well take state", "We barely
lost to TV so were going to dominate, at the end TV and PG will be holding
trophies", "PG is going to roll Alta then take out Bingham for state". Honestly
when will you learn? PG is good in Utah county and that's it. You lost to a team
that Alta straight up hammered the following week. You didn't make it to state.
You didn't make it to the semis even. Deal with it! You're not as good as you
think! You might be returning a bunch of starters but guess what, it doesn't
matter! Syracuse returned THEIR WHOLE TEAM! Plus Alta's JV got to play almost
half the season so were returning plenty too. I'm glad you're proud of your team
and you should be. They had an awesome record and an awesome season but not good
enough and it'll be the same next year.
How about Utah prep wrestling? Jason Chamberlain from Springville was the no. 1
high school wrestler in America. Several other Utah wrestlers were
all-americans. Mountain Crest High finished a three-peat, Viewmont won its 5th
title in 7 years, Wasatch won state again and Millard proved to be as good as
anyone. Wrestling is one of the top Utah sports and yet the local newspapers
snub it for the typical basketball and football stories. Wow! Haws is going to
BYU. How about Ethan Lofthouse of MTN Crest signing with Iowa? Now that's big
I agree with the well stated wrestling fan. I have been a part of high school
wrestling for the past 7 or 8 years and rarely if ever do these young men get
the credit that they deserve. All of that goes to basketball and football as
previously stated. Our sport is by far the toughest of them all. Congrats to
Jason Chamberlain, Ethan Lofthouse and many other great wrestlers for the pay
off of their hardwork and dedication. Too bad nobody really knows about it
because of the lack of coverage given to the sport of wrestling. What a shame
that such great talent is overlooked by the general public.
no one cares about wrestling..if you want people to notice, move to
Iowa or Heber, otherwise don't worry about it-it people ACTUALLY
cared, then people would want to hear about it more..
To: Anonymous -- First of all, please write properly, spell words correctly and
make sense with what you write. Now---Being involved with wrestling
for over 30 years, I believe many people 'do care'. To say "no one cares about
wrestling" is totally incorrect. There are many people who care and enjoy
reading about wrestling. I enjoy reading about any high school sports. It just
would be nice to read more about sports other than football and basketball.Utah does quite well nationally in wrestling. We have had some of the
best wrestlers in the country in the past years and Utah is represented well. An
article on some of those outstanding individuals would be great. (Like the one
on Ethan Lofthouse)Congrats to all those high school football and
basketball players who have received mention in the Trib and let's hope more
articles will be coming on other sports and their athletes.And,
hopefully, comments on this site will be positive and upbeat toward ALL high
school sports and get fewer comments from those who either don't know what they
are talking about or those who love to see their negative comments in print.
no you don't get it - if the general public CARED about wrestling then the Dnews
would write about it..but guess what the GENERAL public doesn't care
about wresting, they don't care about Ethan Lofthouse or some kid from
Springville.that is not to take anything any way from those kids..
I use to ski race. there are a lot of great ski racers in Utah -
does Dnews talk about them - no - should they - no - because the GENERAL public
well actually your not paying a lot of attention the article you're commenting
on just mentioned how park city resident's put Utah skiing on the map and for
your information the "kid from Springville" is Jason Chamberlain he's one of the
best high school wrestlers ever he lost two matches his entire high school carer
so obviously you don't know a lot
jason who??never heard of him...
AnonymousSo I guess the DNews should just print football and boys
basketball games from Salt Lake and Utah counties since that is what you think
the "GENERAL" public wants. Utah is a great high school wrestling state and it
deserves more coverage.
What about girls basketball?
Update to all Alta football unbelievers: Alta's only loss this year
was to Grant High School out of Sacremento, CA. Grant just won the open division
state high school football championship over previously top ranked Cal Poly from
Long Beach. Not a bad loss for the Hawks!With the football season
now in the books, Alta has finished the season being ranked 31st in the nation
by Max Preps. The next closest Utah team to Alta is Timpview who finished the
season being ranked 63rd in the nation. That's right, Alta is the BEST high
school football team from the state of Utah!!!Way to go Alta for
finishing a near perfect season!
ESPN, Sports Illustrated, Rivals, USA today and Scout have Timpview ranked in
the Top 25 in the country (which is ahead of Alta).Alta
players/coaches/fans need to get over this INFERIORITY complex and just MOVE
ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!who cares if
people think Timpview is the best/top program in Utah
ANOTHER ALTA FAN WHINING ABOUT THE PUBLICITY TIMPVIEW GETS. ALTA WON THE 5A
CHAMPIONSHIP TWICE - YOU GUYS HAVE A GREAT PROGRAM AND NEED TO STOP TRYING TO
TALK PEOPLE INTO THINKING YOU'RE BETTER THAN TIMPVIEW'S PROGRAM. I'M A FAN OF
NEITHER BUT GET SICK OF 4A AND 5A SCHOOLS SAYING WHO'S BEST-LET IT
GO ALTA FANS...
RE OH JEEZ!!, I'm not going to say that one program is better then
the other. I would love to see it decided on the field. When I talked to Les
Hamilton at the state game he said TV refused to play yet again so hopefully the
posts at the top of this page are correct. That being said, can you really blame
the hawks? All year for the last two years TV fans have been running their
mouths about how they're ranked higher and how they would roll us yet continue
to refuse to play. Lots of smack with no action is going to get people riled up.
It's the nature of the beast. We just want to see some action behind the words.
Play an out of state team once in a while. Play a good 5A team once in a while.
Beating one or two weak 5A teams doesn't mean you own the state. A little
humility will go a long ways. TV should be proud of what they've done as should
Alta. Until they actually play each other this will never end.
Have you ever heard of that thing called the Olympics? Five Utah wrestlers
competed in the Olympic Trials in wrestling (Nathaniel Holt, Talon Knox, Bo
Beckman, Cheney Haight and Justin Ruiz). I was also wondering if you have heard
of Cael Sanderson, even made a wheaties box--best wrestler college wrestler
ever, won 159 matches without a loss, even won of those ESPY things--I'm sure
you have heard of ESPN--right! Educate yourself and learn to write! And just because our newspapers don't have a clue doesn't mean the sport
doesn't exist or that the sport turns out more nationally recognized athletes
from out state in one year than basketball has in a generation.
I'd love to hear more about Wrestling, Track, and Swimming. The good thing
about these sports are the kids participate for the love of the game. There are
no coaches deciding who gets what spots on any politics, just kids gutting it
out winning or losing. It's a real fair equalizer. Do your best for your
individual competition and help the team in the long run. Great individual
accomplishments adding to team effort. Hats off to the lesser published sports
and the great athletes competing.
Wasatch front area schools fill up their gyms for wrestling matches ..... then
the newspapers will not cover wrestling until the region & state meets. And then
will they only post the winners.Newspapers have limited space and
limited resources. It can not be all things to all people.It's a
life lesson, please learn it.
all the time...go watch Delta--Wasatch match next Friday, you won't find a seat
in the house. Saw more fans at a Spanish Fork--Springville wrestling match than
most basketball games, the Box Elder--Mountain Crest is standing room only...I
was also wondering whether girls basketball fills up the gyms, they get plenty
of coverage. The UHSAA wrestling tournament fills the rafters of UVSC, the
all-star dual has had crowds of several thousands, the Rocky Mountain Rumble
will bring in teams from several states and will boast a field of nearly 65
teams...again anonymous and UNTIL, just because our newspapers have their heads
in the sand along with you doesn't mean the sport isn't thriving in
participation, interest or fan attendance...,
oh my gosh. Just to settle this dispute, people care about wrestling. Big whoop
someone said nobody does. Get over it!
Personally, I wonder if there are any Delta, Wasatch, Spanish Fork, Springville,
Box Elder, or Mountain Crest fans that can read a newspaper. I don't blame
DesNews for not publishing articles about wrestling. Plus, all of the above
mentioned schools aren't exactly in population centers. I'm from Southern Utah.
Just get over it. If you want feature stories about local athletes, talk to your
I think there should be a lot more in this article and in this paper about high
school athletes. I'm sure there are plenty of athletes who deserve a lot more
attention. There were a handful of swimmers who were All-American last year and
who went or are going on to Division 1 colleges (that people care about, sorry
wrestling--Iowa?). But what it comes down to, student athletes shouldn't compete
to try to win the eye of one of the big newspapers, they should compete for the
love of their sport.But more coverage would be nice fans like
I'm with "Sports Lover", the sports that feature individuals are the only sports
where you can pick one true top athlete. All others make it too difficult to
compare stats when different teams play in different classes against different
opponents. I love sports like track and swimming where you are the fastest, or
you aren't. There's no arguments, and no excuse.And to "soaptheman",
your comment "Our sport is by far the toughest of them all" is inappropriate. I
have no respect for athletes who dare belittle any other sport. Have some class.
Wrestling is the grossest sport that could possibly exist. Sweaty guys grabbing
each other for 3 minutes at a time. The practice room stinks to no end. I
don't know how the coaches could stand being in there. No one watches
wrestling. Now wrastling, that's another thing.
Are you kidding me about the wrestling schools not being in population centers.
SF is 5A MC, Springville and BE are in 4A (Mtn. Crest is only a couple hundred
students from being 5A)and Delta and Wasatch are 3A. I have seen more people at
wrestling tournaments and matches than any girls basketball game. I have even
seen more people at wrestling events than some boys basketball games. And fans
of those schools can read, I am one of them. Perhaps you should take your
ignorance else where as your senseless rants just make you look uneducated.
Wrestling is a big deal in Utah weather you like it or not, Get Over It.
I'm sorry we've offended you "gross" maybe you can spritz some perfume on the
practice room. I'm sure you have some in your purse. O and I guarantee if you
said that to the face of a wrestler you wouldn't last "3 minutes"
Last I checked, Drill Team was a sanctioned high school sport. Lets get some
coverage on the Duchesne High School Drill Team that has won 5 consecutive state
titles, and will be going for a 6th this January. No other drill team in state
history has done this. It's news worthy. Get down to Orem at UVU on Jan 31, and
get a write up on these girls and their coaches. Thanks
By the sound of it you are very capable of spritzing all on your own. Sorry but
I have never met a wrestler who made me shake in my pants. Now boxing, that's a
real sport. Name two famous wrestlers? Now name two famous basketball or
football players. I rest my case.
the SLC guy | 12:21 a.m. Dec. 25, 2008 To answer your question:"IF cottonwood and Tiumpview both show well against Alta and Bingham does that
mean that 4A really HAS been the best classification the last 2 years?NO- by the way what does 'show well' mean? If TV ends up playing Alta and beat
then next year, it just gives some justification to all the TV fans that during
their streak of UT county foes they can argue that they are or were the best
team. The rest of 4A doesn't automatically become better than 5A. GET A CLUE!!5A is the better classification either way. 5A wins
over 2/3 of the games every year in the head to head games. The all star games
---WOW--- talk about blowouts. The 3rd best 4A team got blown out by NR and beat
a 1-9 Freemont team by 7 against their only 2 5A opponents.
Another note. Alta could have pulled that game off like they did the year
before, but too many turnovers this year for the repeat. Interesting
notes:Grant finished #14 in the nation and were the CIF champs and beat
Poly/Long Beach. It was Poly's only loss. Poly started off the season with a
blow out win over 2 time 6A Florida champ Northwestern. Northwestern was coming
off a national #1 ranking in several polls. Northwestern lost in the 6A finals
this year. Why does this matter?The Utah teams are not
as far behind the so-called national power HS teams.
RE:Anonymous | 1:05 p.m. Dec. 27, 2008 ESPN, Sports Illustrated,
Rivals, USA today and Scout have Timpview ranked in the Top 25 in the country
(which is ahead of Alta).ESPN had TV at #50, not in the top 25. btw-
Grant was #10 and Trinity #9 (after Allen, TX #2 got payback from a earlier loss
to Trinity and won 5A-region 1 in TX)-Good luck next year Bingham.SI.com -Now there is a reliable source. Poly who was ranked #2 and finished
ranked #13 after they lost to unbeaten Open CA St champs Grant. What did they
rank Grant after beating their #2. They didn't-Go figure.As a UTE
fan I want to send a memo to the Bronco and his coaching staff.
PLEASE....PLEASE.....PLEASE... keep recruiting TV kids. I love seeing them get
smoked in big games and especially on national TV. Keep them coming, need more
slow guys in the secondary.
american fork beat skyline in football... that should be up there
Guess these knuckleheads missed the Viewmont-Davis match. Packed house at
Viewmont. Last time I checked both schools are along the Wasatch Front. Problem
is, they aren't in SLC.
I can't believe how some people talk so much trash about wrestling. If you
don't like it then that is fine, but don't talk smack about those kids. Pound
for pound I would say they are the toughest kids in highschool. Also I
encourage you to look at the average GPA of the wrestling teams. Wrestling has
more honor roll kids than football and basketball combined with not near the
kids. Don't talk smack about smart tough kids.
It's just typical for a lot people here. They still live in the 1950s.
whatever man wrestlers are tougher than any other sports group. o and you want a
list of famous wrestlers how about: Dan Gable, Cael Sanderson, Rulon Gardner,
Pat Smith, Brian Urlacher, John Mcain, Warren Sapp and Ray Lewis were both state
champs in florida. Carlton Haselrig was a NCAA wrestling champ and a pro bowler
for the Pittsburgh Steelers.Yeah check the list it goes on and on O and for
those of you who don't know who Jason Chamberlain is check out the article on
Utah's top ten high school sport stories of the year
How about adding these to the list: Abraham Lincoln, Joseph Smith, Dennis
Hastert (former Speaker of the House), Tom Cruise, William Baldwin, Robin
Williams, Stephen Neal (New England Patriots--never played college football by
the way) and Utah NFL products Ryon Bingham (two-time state champ Alta HS with
Chargers), Haloti Ngata (second in state with the Ravens) and Chris Cooley
(state champ and All-American and all pro with the Redkins). Also add in Rondo
Fehlberg, much respected former AD for BYU and NCAA All-American. I hope some
of you out there have heard of these folk!
To Anonymous, Joe Smith is not famous, don't include him in your list.
We play sports because we love them!! Not for recognition. We shouldn't expect
to be covered and be appreciative when we are. All sports have challenging
factors and deserve respect. Our state has produced some very talented athletes
from every sport because those athletes work very hard to get there.
Joseph Smith was actually nominated by former BYU coach Mark Schultz (Olympic
Gold Medalist) for the National Wrestling Hall of Fame. He was one of the best
"catch style" wrestlers of his area with quite a reputation. He was also
contemporary with another catch style wrestling legend of that area--Abraham