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Obama wins — President-elect vows to lead all Americans

'Change has come to America'

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  • Happy
    Nov. 5, 2008 12:49 a.m.

    I am a Republican who is pleased to see Obama's outreach to all americans to solve the problems we face. I hope he lives up to his pledge and that my fellow republicans can unite behind our new leader.

    It's time to put differences behind us, bring our best ideas to the table, keep the pressure on for what we believe is right to do, and work together.

  • Obama Won Because....
    Nov. 5, 2008 1:01 a.m.

    1 - First and foremost, foolishness on the part of many voters, whites, blacks, etc alike, who still do not have any clue as to what this guy stands for. "Change!" they shout zombie-like, but you have no idea as to how that change will come about or, more importantly, what the consequences of those changes will be. The biggest negative consequences will be Americans dying while they wait for socialized medical help to arrive, just like occurs in Canada. And, just as bad, if not worse, will be the death of initiative, desire, dreams and effort from those who sit on their couches and wait for their government checks to arrive. What a colossal waste of talent and personal growth.

    2 - Guilt. Guilt on the part of those who wanted to assauge their conscience for past mis-deeds of all kinds, who got sucked into the Obama-mania hype the liberal mainstream media relentlessly pushed, and voted for a black American to show their willingess to restore past wrongs.

    3 - Racial pride from black Americans. How many polls, interviews, etc have you observed in which black Americans said they were overwhelmingly NOT going to vote for Obama?

  • Soldier
    Nov. 5, 2008 1:26 a.m.

    He has likely signed the death certificate for our country as we know it simply because of his haste to be the first in history to do this thing which so manyu have wanted. The U.S. is the first nation in history to completely outlaw slavery, although it didnt happen in northern states for some years after the Civil War, followed by giving full citizen rights and voting rights as well as the right to even run for office. We have provided the path for change and no, it wasn't all made possible by one man but a lot of decent and well meaning people along the way who were not blacks at all. He and his wife are America haters and will be good allies to those who attacked us on 9/11 and he has even said he will meet unconditionally with these people, some of whom do things like behead journalists to simply make a statement or get publicity. The president of Iran is one of the hostage takers that held our fellow Americans captive in the 70's. Obama wishes to sit down for a tea with him. when Joe the plumber made him show his immaturityonTV, weshouldhavetakennote.

  • Liberal Mainstream Media
    Nov. 5, 2008 1:28 a.m.

    How did Obama win?

    Good grief!, how could he NOT win with the country's entire mainstream liberal media sleeping with him long before he became the Dem's nominee?

    Can ANYONE honestly tell me that the media's coverage of this Presidential race was NOT heavily slanted towards Obama?

    Scott Card hit the nail on the head....

  • Socialism
    Nov. 5, 2008 1:31 a.m.

    yeah, I love socialism, I don't have to work now, Obama now will take from the hard working rich people and give to the poor. why work because now uncle Bill G will be helping me.

  • mcr
    Nov. 5, 2008 1:32 a.m.

    I was touched by the speeches of both McCain and Obama. McCain was so gracious and rose above party politics. As a teacher educator who cares about social justice issues in K-12 schools,

    I am thrilled by the grace, intelligence, and kindness of Obama's speech. He has demonstrated the beacon of hope so important for immigrant children. I love the image for the world to see of a strong, loving Black family in the White House.

    I appreciate "Happy's" post....willing to look ahead rather than continue anger and cultural wars. Thank you for beginning the healing.

  • Obam Won Because
    Nov. 5, 2008 1:38 a.m.

    He inspires hope- campaigned on hope- Mccain played on peoples fear- that's the CHANGE we wanted!

  • jasmine
    Nov. 5, 2008 1:39 a.m.

    to that last comment your post reminds us (americans) that a landslide victory is not because people actually came together and wanted to change their country and that the fact that we could all strive for a common purpose and actually make this happen and overcome hardships, INSTEAD you try to give a logical reason a racially mixed man won the white house? (dispicable!) because blacks got together and turned out in record numbers? because OBAMA is just so popular with young voters? and you assert that people voted for obama so that they wouldnt seem racist? your ignorance amazes me! I cannot believe you would try to speak for those and claim that people who voted for obama are "zombie-like" that we did it as part of a fad? and that we dont know anybetter to who this man is? you dont speak for me nor many of the americans that voted this year. Our dreams are alive and just as strong as ever and its about time we all got together an stop clinging to negative excuses such as yours.

  • GeeBee
    Nov. 5, 2008 1:41 a.m.

    Eat your hearts out Utah.

  • Re:happy
    Nov. 5, 2008 1:45 a.m.

    Our problems are just beginning, sorry!

  • RE: Obama Won Because....
    Nov. 5, 2008 1:48 a.m.

    sore loser

  • D Shields
    Nov. 5, 2008 2:01 a.m.

    Hello. Obama won because he resonated with the most people who made it to the polls.

    I didn't vote for him, but I hope the slogan all of us as citizens get behind is "Yes We Can!" Doesn't matter who the president is if we the people go back to our couches and tvs. If we want real change, if we want laws that protect our freedoms and reflect our personal responsibility and restore the Constitution, if we want to be better off with lower debt, disease, and unrest, with increased savings, innovation, and jobs in the coming years WE THE PEOPLE MUST GET OFF OUR BACKSIDES AND CREATE SOLUTIONS.

    Yes. We can.

  • Obama Won Because...
    Nov. 5, 2008 2:18 a.m.

    More Americans Chose to vote for a leader who represents a new era of American Prosperity and Leadership than Chose to listen to the insane rantings of the bitter like that person up there ^

  • Happy Day For America
    Nov. 5, 2008 2:24 a.m.

    It's quite safe to say most Americans are not better than they were 8 years ago. Obama will be a positive influence on the economy, foreign policy, and the debacle in the Middle East. He may be tested by some, but will have a stronger backing by others. It's time for a change and this is a great day in American history. If it were not for progress we would still be living in caves.

  • Actually, Obama won because...
    Nov. 5, 2008 2:48 a.m.

    ...his message of change resonates with a majority of Americans. It has been a rough eight years under George Bush, and the country needs to head in a drastically different direction, one that fosters (rather than tramples on) the principles that make our country great. That is the promise of an Obama administration, and I think the man can make it happen.

    The fear-mongering that apparently still continues among Obama opponents never ceases to amaze me. Give Obama a chance to share his vision and to try to put this country back on course.

  • Obama makes me barf
    Nov. 5, 2008 2:57 a.m.

    Does anyone else feel like throwing up?

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 5, 2008 3:30 a.m.

    Finally, the McBush nightmare is over!

  • European
    Nov. 5, 2008 3:43 a.m.

    To 'Obama won because ...' you might also consider the reason he won was because the majority of Americans were sick and tired of the past eight years under the rule of a buffoon masquerading as president. Thank goodness you now have someone who can put a sensible sentence together and will think before he acts. America can be great once more and not the laughing stock it became under Bush Junior. Great credit to your country for voting in a black president. It says a lot about the people as a whole. I hope he can deliver what he's promised. To McCain, I think he's a good guy but was hampered by the Bush legacy. I'm sure he'll continue to make a valuable contribution. As for Palin - (the person who put the Alas into Alaska), what can I say? Romney would have been a more sensible and timely choice with his business background. I guess the Americans were ready for a black president but not a Mormon. Now that is quite sad. You have still work to do.

  • Mahershalalhashbaz
    Nov. 5, 2008 3:46 a.m.

    We are about to enter the darkest chapter in American history. No racist pun intended.

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 5, 2008 3:54 a.m.

    sour grapes, my Utah friends, sour grapes!

  • Obama Won Because...
    Nov. 5, 2008 3:59 a.m.

    He was the best choice this year!!! Let's hope the nation can come together and support the new administration. Go America1!!

  • GWB
    Nov. 5, 2008 4:11 a.m.

    "Obama Won Because" why didn't you write, Obama won because I am the only one that can see that he was lying? Sounds like sour grapes.

    The reality you miss is that Obama won because he ran a superior campaign that focused on issues and people rejected Karl Rove style attacks.

    Obama won because people rejected paying $10 billion a month for a war in Iraq while we have a financial crisis at home.

    Obama won because this country actually is a centrist country, and Republican right wing theocratic ideals as embraced by Sarah Palin were rejected.

    Obama won because conservative ideals of an unregulated free market have failed.

    Obama won because people decided to embrace knowledge rather than revel in Republican anti-intelectualism.

    Obama won because he inspires people.

    Obama won because he did not vote for the failed policies of George Bush 90+% of the time.

    And by the way, had McCain, the one that gave the concession speech shown up to the debates and on the campaign trail there may have been a different outcome. Instead he embraced the nasty rhetoric of the divisive right wing of the Republican party. That is what America rejected.

  • Interloper
    Nov. 5, 2008 4:13 a.m.

    I believe that President Elect Barack Obama may prove to be one of the great chief executives of this country. He is brilliant, determined and a person with excellent judgment. Compared to the current occupant of the White House, Sen. Obama is an overwhelming improvement.

    Unfortunately, the McCain/Palin campaign chose to try to win the election by engaging in demagoguery. It has encouraged an often ignorant constituency to believe nonsense about the upcoming president, such as that he is a socialist, radical or even the Antichrist. John McCain, Sarah Palin and their surrogates have a duty to help mend the societal divide they widened. They can do so by declaring solidarity with the new president and repudiating the smear campaigns they encouraged against him.

  • Cilla
    Nov. 5, 2008 4:16 a.m.

    A reply to the person posting "Obama Won Because.."
    Wake up and see the real world! Have you even read his list of actions on Economy,Education, Energy & Environment, Foreign Policy, Health Care, Home Land Security, and the list goes on. Do you seriously oppose that McCain would have done a better job or has a better Economic solution/Plan? He even said he's not very good at Economics. Oh hey, maybe bright head Sarah Palin could help him? I can not remember when some one has ever come across as having such lack of inteligence and a lack of knowledge. She is a joke in Europe. And we are used to high profile politicians here. And what is wrong with focus on black Americans. Sounds like you're the one with the problem. Attitude!

  • Sad Day for America
    Nov. 5, 2008 4:28 a.m.

    It truly is. Socialism won. The war in Iraq has just been conceded. Our troops will come home in defeat and terrorists will glady inhabit Iraq again. 2nd Amendment rights are going to be tossed out the window. Rush, Glenn, Sean will all be shut down...by their own government. Socialized medicine will come along with the troubling issues that will cause. Redistribution of wealth will reward laziness and penalize free enterprise. Gas taxes, food taxes, property taxes, all kinds of "hidden taxes" will be placed on the shoulders of Americans enamored with a silly word "Change." It is a sure guarantee that our country will indeed change. That is certain. In the early 20th century, Germany went for "change" too. Look where it got them. I truly pray that we don't go that far.

    As to race, this is where America won. Not with Obama but their ability to look past race. This is positive but the victory is shallow as the substance of the candidate was not vetted by the far left liberal press who jumped on the bandwagon and slaughtered McCain in the process. Very sad indeed.

  • Let see what they do
    Nov. 5, 2008 4:29 a.m.

    Democrats have won control over the country. Now they will have no one to blame for their wrong decisions. Let see what you do now. Are you going to keep all of your promises or blame President Bush for the next 4 years.

  • oldman
    Nov. 5, 2008 4:44 a.m.

    Obama won because people are fed up with the carnage of the GOP. Eight years of the worst presidency ever and many of the GOP still don't get it. Obama won because the American people decided that we did not need four more years of Bush. Obama won because the American people wanted him.

    I agree with Happy - let's work together - as a country - to CHANGE America and to offer hope to future generations.

  • Obama Won Because....
    Nov. 5, 2008 4:48 a.m.

    4 - He was the better candidate

    5 - He ran a better campaign

    6 - George W. Bush

  • Nobama
    Nov. 5, 2008 4:51 a.m.

    Yes...I too am not quite happy that Obama won. All these things he promises he will do he can not do because of the US' failing economy. With him spending so much we might go into another Great Depression. He also taxes rich people unfairly like he is forcing them to do charity against their own will.

  • re: Obama Won Because
    Nov. 5, 2008 4:56 a.m.

    People die NOW waiting for medical help in America. How about we work toward a health care system in which more people can get to a doctor before they get that sick? We gave Republicans the past 8 years to solve this, and other problems. What happened? Certainly they did not get rid of people sitting on their couches waiting for checks to arrive! These problems existed before President Obama, they will exist after. If Republican government was the answer, the problems would be gone!

    The good thing about this election is it will become very apparent who the racists are. And I can stay faaaaar away from them.

  • Ryan Peterson
    Nov. 5, 2008 4:58 a.m.

    This past election was LONG, and hard fought. I don't remember such segregation as what I feel among this people. So many irate feelings have broiled within these "United" States. Lies and criticism have torn us. The issues we face are fascinating, and unique to our era. Even families and religions have been divided in this qualm.
    We have elected a new President! Although he's not the candidate I preferred, he is the one selected to lead this "One Nation, Under God". From this moment forth I hope "We the People" can support our new leader! As a people it is our responsibility to respect and uphold our leaders. I trust that he will do his best, and I trust that the Lord's eyes are upon this land, just as they've always been. Lets put this hate aside, let ire subside, and in synergy, let us continue to look at our banner with pride, working as One People!
    Again I throw a shout out to our new President-elect Barack Obama, and I pray that the Lord will inspire him to do what is best for the USA for the next four years!

  • Im a sore loser
    Nov. 5, 2008 4:58 a.m.

    I woke up this morning with a little less freedom. Mark my words....as time goes on with this guy at the helm and his ilk (Pelosi, Reid, Barney Frank)we will lose many freedoms. I am so proud to know that when I went to the ballot box and voted, I voted for freedom not communism, I voted Republican.

  • awesomeron
    Nov. 5, 2008 5:02 a.m.

    I Prayed morning and night that this male would not be elected President. Even though my Prayer was Not Answered, I will continue to Pray as I do every day for the souls of the Aborted Unborn.

    I agree with Obama Won Because, and what was posted.

    We have been trained as Americans that after an Election we put aside our differences and unite behind the person elected. A large part of me wants to do that. However not this time around.

    I am throughly disguested with what America did today. I am sick and tired of being sick and tired of Abortion and Partial Birth Abortion, as well as other things.

    Obama represents Hope but only for the Dopes that Voted for him. He is Not and He Never Will be My President.

  • Joel
    Nov. 5, 2008 5:03 a.m.

    The Republicans ignored mainstreet, the Democrats spoke to the heart of America, and America responded appropriately.
    Thanks be to God.

  • CP
    Nov. 5, 2008 5:22 a.m.

    Well I agree that there needed to be a change. But, I didn't vote for Obama or McCain. I just felt neither could do the job. I hope Obama didn't give the American people an ear full of empty promises. Cause he did promise alot and I hope he lives up to each and every one of them for ALL of U.S. Citizens.

  • ECR
    Nov. 5, 2008 5:28 a.m.

    It's a great day in AmericA. I voted for Obama for a number of reasons but the most important reason is that I thought he was best qualified to lead our country in a new direction - away from the status quo that has us mired in a financial disaster and in two foreign wars. I will also admit that a strong reason for my vote was the significance of voting for Barack Obama and the message it sends to the world. His face, his name, his dimeanor are all indications and signals that Americans want a change - especially from the path our country has followed the past eight years. Where we lost our position as the light of hope in the world, Obama's election is a signal that we want to regain that position, no matter how long it takes or how hard we have to work to regain it. It will take the efforts of all Americans from all parts of the country. I hope and pray that it comes about.

  • how can he?
    Nov. 5, 2008 5:30 a.m.

    how can he lead all Americans when his value system is so much different than that held by so many of us?

  • Sammy
    Nov. 5, 2008 5:34 a.m.

    I'm not sure who wrote his acceptance speech but it was Awesome. I loved it. That is what America needs right now.

    If he even tries to do that than we will be OK.

    He doesn't really have a clue and is just a politician so we are probably going to deal with the same old Democrat nonsense.

    But he did nail his speech and I will at least give him a chance because he got that part right.

    Impressed so far.

    .

  • Ned
    Nov. 5, 2008 5:46 a.m.

    Buckle up, lil campers. The change you think you wanted is coming. Don't be surprised if it isn't what you thought you were going to get....

  • Change
    Nov. 5, 2008 5:47 a.m.

    It was fear of change and loyalty to a king that led many early colonists to reject the ideas of the Revolution.

    FDR reminded us that our own fear of change was the real fear.

    As a white Republican, I reject the idea that my vote was based on guilt.

    My hope is that Republicans can find their way back to their platform and EARN my vote, rather than expect it because it was always there in the past.

    I am saddened that two or three Utah House members remain in their seats. Shows Utah can overlook weaknesses in their own representative but have difficulty in extending that empathy to some other groups.

  • A Parable 1
    Nov. 5, 2008 5:54 a.m.

    Evil Rich Person had an asset he was considering selling for a profit. His plan was to sell for a profit, pay a modest tax, and re-invest in another asset. He expected the new asset to produce income from which he would pay another modest tax and maybe, sometime in the future sell for more profit and pay another modest tax.
    The nation elected a president who did not believe in modest taxes for Evil Rich Persons. He raised them, hoping to gain enough money to pay those people who elected him. He called his Secretary of the Treasury and asked if Evil Rich Person had paid his increased taxes on the profit he would make on the sale of his asset. The Secretary of Treasury said that Evil Rich Person had not paid the tax because he determined that he would be better off keeping is asset and avoid paying the tax. We are worse off than we were with a modest tax.

  • Ain't what you thought
    Nov. 5, 2008 5:58 a.m.

    America got what the liberal media portrayed. Now America will get what they asked for...which isn't at all what was advertised.

  • Oh boy
    Nov. 5, 2008 5:59 a.m.

    Well said Obama Won Because...

  • Cover Up
    Nov. 5, 2008 6:01 a.m.

    Shame on the media cover up for not investigating that Obama was not born in the USA and that he shouldn't have been eligible to become a candidate in the first place. Despite pending lawsuits (Berg vs Obama)this has been kept a non issue through silence on the part of the media and also for the Bush justice department to act. We the people of the United States have not been served fairly.

  • Real US Citizen
    Nov. 5, 2008 6:09 a.m.

    This will wake up the silent majority, to take back our country.

  • carter
    Nov. 5, 2008 6:13 a.m.

    im a white american who lives here in utah and had no problem voting for obama. i get the feeling the majority of utahns voted solely for mccain for three reasons; because obama is part black, they say he is a terrorist, and because they just vote republican because they always have. you cant try and tell me its because alot of republican ideals coincide with the lds church, because thats ridiculous. the church would endorse a canidate if that were the case. i am lds and we were counciled to study each canidate carefully and make the decision we thought was best, i did that, and voted for President-elect Barack Obama

  • Atlman
    Nov. 5, 2008 6:19 a.m.

    Why cannot everyone who voted against Obama be as gracious and respectful of the will of the American people as Sen. McCain was last night? Let go of the hate. Pray for our new President-elect. If you continue with bitterness and hate, it will only feed on itself. Pray for guidance for our government. God is not a Republican or a Democrat.

  • Laura
    Nov. 5, 2008 6:27 a.m.

    All I can say is study the constitution. It's officially hanging by a thread. We are being spoon fed socialism. Time is running out on the freedoms that actually enabled this country to become what it is. Despite the death grip by democrats and other well meaning liberals, America chokes for air striving to stay alive.

    The last 4 years the democrats have been in control in both the house and senate. Now, who thinks it's going to get better?

    Sigh.

  • kudos to McCain
    Nov. 5, 2008 6:27 a.m.

    ... for his gracious and inspiring speech. I had lost respect for him during the campaign, but last night he showed true character and strength. Too bad he wasn't the GOP candidate in 2000. Had he been president for the last 8 years, Obama would not have so much damage to repair right now. Let's work together and stop the name-calling and divisions. God bless America!

  • Sanity, man
    Nov. 5, 2008 6:31 a.m.

    I woke up today so pleased to be an American. Yesterday I was thinking only life liberty and the pursuit of happiness were basic rights. Now I realize free college education, free health care, homes, transportation, vacations, flatscreens, cable, cell phones, internet access... oh wait. I'm one of the producers.

  • Mike
    Nov. 5, 2008 6:34 a.m.

    The Liberal Left is now in control...of the White House, the Senate, and seemingly of the majority of the minds of Americans.
    People think we are in bad shape now; lets see how bad off we'll be after the next four years...

  • Why Obama Really Won
    Nov. 5, 2008 6:37 a.m.

    1- The fact that he ran a Centrist campaign promising tax cuts for the middle class, domestic energy development (including offshore oil drilling), and more fiscal responsibility from government

    2- The changing demographics of the American voter which included many young and minority voters who were engaged by the Obama campaign and ignored by the McCain campaign

    3- The disillusionment of many Americans with a Republican party that has moved farther from the ideological platform established by Reagan

    4- The concern many Americans had over McCain's choice of Sarah Palin as a running mate

    5- The Market Crash coming under the watch of an administration that preached deregulation, and the fact that McCain himself continued to express further deregulation of industry

    6- The desire of the American people for a new direction in government, as proven by the many new seats gained in Congress by Democratic candidates

  • Black Vote
    Nov. 5, 2008 6:38 a.m.

    I am a black woman and I did NOT vote for Obama. Now we need to pray for our nation and for the government, because their decisions will affect everyone.

  • Interesting
    Nov. 5, 2008 6:57 a.m.

    I find it interesting that the Black community is making this out to be a "win" for blacks. I thought prejudice didn't exist in America anymore. I can't believe that people would vote for someone just because they are black and for no other reason?

  • SLC gal
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:03 a.m.

    "Family of color" - give me a break! FYI: Obama is half white, but that is not why I didn't vote for him. I dont think he can do the job PERIOD! I hope in four years the McCain supporters are proven wrong, but last night they blew the chance for real change right out the window!

  • Can I add a couple?
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:06 a.m.

    4-America just isn't quite as racist as the neo-cons calculated. Even people who are slightly bigoted talked about liking President Obama and said they would vote for him.

    5-Reverse Bradley affect--Some Americans who couldn't claim aloud (in their communities) that they were going to vote Obama, secretly couldn't pull the lever for 4 more years of Bush ideology.

    6-Barak's campaign was a finely tuned machine and McCain's looked like a AMC Gremlin with it's right front wheel missing.

    Boy I slept well last night.

  • Gretzky
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:11 a.m.

    heaven help us.

  • Oh No
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:12 a.m.

    Im building a bomb shelter in my basement.

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:14 a.m.

    There is a lot of real, vitriolic anger out there. I hope we can get past it, or at least that most people do.

  • To Awesomeron
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:15 a.m.

    He IS your President and you WILL abide by the laws he signs. I know you have a lot of anger right now. Try not to take it out on your wife or children or any perceived Obama voting motorists who might cut you off in traffic as they drive gleefully to work this morning. They're just ultra happy, Ron. Happy that people like you are fading fast from the "real" America.

  • Let's see...
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:15 a.m.

    The democrats have had control of congress for a while now and look at their approval ratings. They are the worste is history and they are even below Bush's. So don't hang your hat on a lot of change suddenly happening.

  • so glad
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:15 a.m.

    Oh I am so glad I don't live in Utah with you backwards fools anymore. BTW, if you're really LDS, you would've voted for Obama - the gospel teaches us to help the poor and disadvantaged - funny that there isn't anything in there about abortion or same sex marriage, which seem to be the way most of the state makes decisions.

  • Thank God Obama won
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:16 a.m.

    For the first ime in a very long, my country has a chance to regain its greatness and re-become what it is supposed to be. It's not going to be easy to clean up the mess of the last eight years, but that's a very necessary task and I think the man we just elected to be President is capable of doing it.

    Thank you, American voters, for seeing through the smears and fear-based attacks, and voting for the person this country needs.

    Congratulations, and God bless President-Elect Obama.

  • TKO
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:20 a.m.

    Obama won because:

    He promised the world

    He has the right skin tone

    sounds good on paper, but in reality?

    don't forget his and Ayers baby - ACORN

    Bush - nuf said

    leftist media accomplises

    Now, where do we go from here? take a very hard left and hold on for your life!

  • to all obama haters
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:22 a.m.

    if youre so bitter about him winning, why not get off your butts and do something about it? work a little harder, try to be a better citizen, get involved with your local community government. its easy to sit there and complain about things not going you're way, but they will continue to not go your way unless you do something about it for yourself. to all those who wont support obama as their president, you guys are the problems in america. grow up, take responsibilty for your own actions, and make the world a better place. if you dont want to call him your president, move to mexico or germany or russia, anywhere but here. till then shut up and support the president-elect barack obama. by the way, he is half-white and was born in hawaii. hardly terrorist roots.

  • Jaramiah
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:23 a.m.

    Obama people are here to stay. :O))

  • me
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:24 a.m.

    I agree with "Let see what they do". The dems have no one to blame, but themselves. However, when their grand ideas don't work Bush will still catch all the blame. It won't matter that the economic slump happened on their watch in congress.

  • Proud
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:26 a.m.

    I am a white moderate 50 something mother of 2 and I cannot tell you how proud I am to have Barak Obama as our next president. I cried with joy last night. I feel that as Americans, we finally have our country back. The people have spoken and for once I am truly hopeful about the future of our country.

  • Obama won...
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:28 a.m.

    because he had an excellent campaign, a good message, and knew how to excite the crowd. It's like watching a frenzied revival. Now let's see if he can keep that excitement going throughout his Presidency and work across the aisle like he promises. I didn't vote for Obama because I don't believe in big government or hand-outs, but like McCain, I will give him my support and hope that he can create the change that we need to put America back on it's feed. But then again, he may be just another typical politician...

  • Josh
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:28 a.m.

    This is a great day in American history. "Liberty and justice for all" makes sense again for the first time in a decade.

  • From Warfare to Welfare
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:29 a.m.

    Obama won because we now have terms like "baby daddy" and "baby mama". We have a country full of people that make babies with anyone and everyone without a thought as to how they will provide for them. They are excited to think that now "their" leader will take even more from the respectable, hardworking people so that they can continue to draw welfare and make babies!

  • Ernest T. Bass
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:30 a.m.

    The angry white man, Rush O'Hannity can no blame Obama for all of Bush's failures. That way in four years our inbox's will be full of emails that are based on outright lies.
    What I don't understand is all the anger from the far reich. You have all the wealth and yet you are angry and choose not to see all the problems reich-wing ideology has caused.

  • Keith, California
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:30 a.m.

    THANK YOU MAIN-STREAM-MEDIA!

    You chose both of these candidates. You are such sorry specimans of journalists. In 1976, we elected Carter after Watergate, then cleaned house in 1980. Hopefully, we can do the same in 2012, but the demographics are much different now. Assuming we can change in 2012, maybe there won't be too much "damage". Europe is excited about our slide toward socialism. I guess misery loves company.

  • Jimbo
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:33 a.m.

    Lead all Americans? Don't make me laugh. He will lead us to ruin, and a new era of slavery -- the sort of thing that always happens when leftists are in charge.

  • Cats
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:33 a.m.

    As a committed Republican I say it is time for us to congratulate the Democrats and all come together to support our new president. That is what we do as Americans. And, it is very historic. I am proud of our country that we could go from slavery to electing a black man as president. That shows a lot of greatness as a nation on our part.

    And to all you Republicans out there...WE RIDE AT DAWN!!!!!!!

  • Concerned
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:33 a.m.

    It's seriously sad to see so many people so bitter in losing. It's fine to disagree with Obama. Even STRONGLY disagree. But, it's sad that people have to pass judgment right now, prophesying doom and gloom in order to make themselves feel better. It's not enough to wait and see what will happen. Their pride forces them to condemn us all even before we've begun.

  • Obama wins...
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:34 a.m.

    Yes, we can! Can you say "Baaaahhhh!"

  • Media Coverage
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:37 a.m.

    Attention Media ... Please contiue to be unbiased & impartial for the next 4 to 8 years for Sen. Obama ... just like you were for Pres. Bush.

    Mark my words, nothing will ever be printed or broadcasted on the major networks that will ever be negative about Sen. Obama's Presidency!

  • Happy
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:37 a.m.

    When will Utah stop supporting the party of fear-mongering, war-mongering, and selfishness? It's so great that Obama won. Get used to it, Utards.

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:37 a.m.

    oh bummer

  • Victory
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:37 a.m.

    I'm so glad he won. Too bad about all the haters. You guys are real patriots.

  • Re: Soldier
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:37 a.m.

    I'm so glad people like you lost last night. Even as despicable and ignorant your comments are, I hope you can work with all of us to move forward.

    This idea that Obama hates America is plain nonsense. Turn off Hannity for a moment and think for yourself. If you honestly believe garbage like that, then it is you that is the fool.

  • Congratulations
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:41 a.m.

    You did it - Comrade Obamavich!! Let's start spreading the wealth now!!

  • Rafe
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:41 a.m.

    I am so ashamed of what remains of the once-noble Republican party. Bigots and rampant ignorance control what's left of the GOP. The party of Abraham Lincoln is unrecognizable. There was a brief glimmer of redemption in the gracious concession speech by John McCain, followed by a numbing vacuous void.

  • Joel
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:42 a.m.

    Are you kidding about the democrats, Obama's Campain said anything to get voted. Do you think that America is really socialist, do you think that the rich are actually going to pay more, do you really think that America is wants to pay more taxes. if that is America, then i need to move.

  • Changes are necessary
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:44 a.m.

    Thankfully, our founding fathers did not intend that one person would be president forever. It is good to seesaw back and forth with agendas. We all want our legislative and executive branch to work harder. Checks and balances are necessary. We have a very conservative judicial branch. But with GWB the neo conservatives brought attitudes into our country that were awful--especially the intolerance for religion that currently exists, and we were out of balance to the far right.

    The war in Iraq, sold to us as a good war for democracy reasons and religious reasons, has divided the country and contributed to the economic crisis.

    Yes, the democrats will have more power for this administration, but it is a good swing from the far right. If we don't like things in 4 years we can change it if we make our voices heard as has occurred in this election. We need a more moderate voice, some leadership and for all of us to get on board.

    Let's pull together instead of harboring such an attack mode.

  • Dr. J
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:45 a.m.

    Okay Utah, you ignored the promptings of truth and democracy and rejected what most of the rest of the country has embraced. Now you will pay dearly as you remain on the fringe of American Politics.

  • utah rose
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:46 a.m.

    I can hardly wait for you Demos to see a larger slice of your paycheck for taxes. Then if Obama does raise taxes for corporations you haven't seen anything yet. They will pass these taxes on to you and you will be paying still more for groceries, gasoline and other things. Better tighten your belts now. And if he gets national health care passed, there will not be enough hospitals or doctors to treat everyone, so you will have to "wait your turn" for a bypass or any other operation. An illegal immigrant may take your place. Also watch the Social Security System break down because I will not be able to handle them too.

    Your daughters will be able to get abortions without your permission, because he has promised to sign FOCA the first thing.

    Don't complain later-----you voted for him! We will now be a nation without God because we abandoned Him!

  • jim
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:47 a.m.

    obama won because of a flawed system of choosing canidates. I believe mccain would not have been the republicans choice if the primarys were run more fairly. The primary election should be held on one day across the nation for both parties. Why should iowa, newhampshire and other get to choose for us and then we get the leftovers.

    Both parties expierenced problems with states wanting to vote earlier and not wanting to be left out of the selection process.

    obama might not be president elect. Both parties have too much power over the people.

  • McCain's Achilles Heels:
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:47 a.m.

    1. He's a Republican (in other words, George W. Bush)

    2. Sarah Palin


    This why people refused to vote for McCain. And we voted Obama because he inspires us, because we feel that his policies are the change America needs (wake up and smell the roses, children of thirty years ago! The Cold War is OVER! It's time to move on!).

    I decided on Obama a long time ago. And everything McCain did or said made me more determined to vote for Obama.

  • DH
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:48 a.m.

    At this point it doesn't matter why Obama won. It just matters that he did, so how are we going to move forward. Let's tone down the hatred and ignorant comments and try to figure out how to move forward.

    I wish President Elect Obama the very best. I hope he is a man of principle, commitment and courage and can move the country forward in a positive manner truly focusing on what is best for this country as a whole and not just what is best for himself and his party.

    God bless America!

  • Amazed...
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:49 a.m.

    I am absolutely amazed at the ignorance of some people. One person will not be able to fix the problems America is facing today. I think Obama has some great ideas. I also think that he has some poor ones. He is a person...not a perfect one. He will be our president, whether you agree with him or not. This does not give us the right to say that he has absolute control and sit by while things happen TO us. We are in control of what happens to us. If more people decided to take responsibility for their own lives, and stop blaming government, church, boss, family or anything but themselves for the results of their choices, our country wouldn't be in such a big mess. I hope the greatest change that will happen throughout the next 4 to 8 years will be a realization that bad things happen, but only individuals can decide how to react to life. Our reactions make our lives positive or negative. No government will ever give people permission to be lazy! Stop blaming Bush, Obama, religion, or anyone else and start looking in the mirror if you really want to make a change!

  • Tina
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:52 a.m.

    Obama's the MAN! he will change the world. It will be like having an Egyptian pharaoh sitting at the head of this country within the white house.

  • Hall
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:56 a.m.

    I congratulate the USA on making the right choice. I am convinced that Obama will be an excellent President.

    To those of you who accuse him of being a communist and other things; you don't know what you are talking about

  • Inspiring
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:56 a.m.

    Golleee, that guys sure is a good salesman.

  • reject the politics of the past
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:57 a.m.

    Its time to follow the lead of McCain and become part of the solution instead of part of the problem. We need everyone ones ideas and solutions to continue to move forward as a country dont let your ideas be left behind because you insist on clinging to the politics of the past.
    Just as one example, Awesomeron why dont you help find solutions to the reasons why people seek abortions, lets make abortion so uncommon that the law becomes almost insignificant.

  • To: Real US Citizen
    Nov. 5, 2008 8:00 a.m.

    It looks to me like the silent majority has already woken up.

  • KJB
    Nov. 5, 2008 8:00 a.m.

    John McCain was quite gracious in his speech last night, but there are still too many here who are acting like your toys are being taken away. It's time to enter the 21st century, Utah.

  • Re: Obama
    Nov. 5, 2008 8:01 a.m.

    Um... if you look at the popular election, you'd see that over 50% supported Obama.

  • SORRY UTAH!!!
    Nov. 5, 2008 8:05 a.m.

    Im so happy for Obama and so Sad for Utah "town", OBAMA WON BY ELLECTORAL VOTES AND POPULAR VOTES!!! AMERICA wants to see to the future, It is time to come TO WORK TOGETHER!!! No blue and Red...TOGETHER, I hope that we can help our country to work for a better future.

    Im sorry for those rednecks who think that going to war with everybody is going to solve our problems!!!

    I hope God will help us to fight for our country, no more colors, race, political side and hate, WORK AS ONE, AS AMERICANS!!!

    Congratulations Pres. Obama!!!

    (Tooele and SLC voted more for the democratic party last night!!! small towns did it for McCain)

  • zuma
    Nov. 5, 2008 8:06 a.m.

    i love it you utah county nut jobs cant stand losing so you make up up how the country will fall apart while the rest of the world rejoices the change the rest of the country has made. utah will never be taken seroisly politically here in the usa

  • Amazing...and sad
    Nov. 5, 2008 8:06 a.m.

    It shocks me that this fascination with Obama has lasted this long. His message is one of little substance. "CHANGE" AND "HOPE" is about the extent of it. I guess throwing enough money at anything will work...for a while. It won't take long for almost everyone (even some who voted for him) to realize this is a mistake. To all those liberal posters on here saying this is all sour grapes and sore losers: This is the reality of things. National security was my biggest concern. The fact that Obama is going to pull our troops out, and that we will now face a crisis (Biden said it himself) is frightening to me. But keep on saying that this is all sour grapes. Just like your candidate, you don't have any substance in your arguments!

  • Kobe for prez
    Nov. 5, 2008 8:08 a.m.

    As usual,Utah`s racists show their hate,that`s why you are looked at as what you are...hateful racists,prtending to be "christians" hypo-crits is what you are,too bad,what a way to live,it`s a shame

  • Alex
    Nov. 5, 2008 8:08 a.m.

    Yes, we did!

    And RE: Obama | 7:05 a.m. - Obama won the popular vote, too.

  • Mike
    Nov. 5, 2008 8:09 a.m.

    Sadly, I don't feel that we had a truly good candidate to chose from this election.

    McCain didnt have enough 'business savvy' to help with the financial crisis nor did he have specific enough solutions to the other problems we currently face.
    Obama is too inexperienced, has too of a liberal/socialist agenda, and is too ready to assuage the world with accepting the idea that 'America is the bad guy'.

    I do not believe in or suppport abortion (with exception to rape, incest, or mothers life at risk).
    I do not believe in or support same-sex marriage.
    I do not believe in or support socialism.
    I do not believe in or support liberalism.
    I do not believe in nor will support a party or platform that supports these items.

    I will support America by being a good citizen, being a good neighbor, being patriotic, standing up for the Constitution, by being a good Christian and by praying for God's influence and guidance.

  • voting rights
    Nov. 5, 2008 8:10 a.m.

    Here's a thought. Maybe it's time that only people who contribute to society can vote! Requirements: Pay taxes, Employed or actively seeking employment, Finish high school, Pay child support, No criminal record, Full time student.

    I'm afraid that the reason Obama won was because a lot of people don't understand how money moves in the US and they think that taxing those who have worked hard so that benefits can be provided to those who haven't is the way to strengthen our country's economy.

    I agree that our country needs to protect those in need but this concept is abused.

    I hope Obama wakes up and realizes that taxing people into equality will depress the ambition that made America great. The best way is to give incentives for companies and people to take care of eachother not government to take on this responsibility.

  • Nick
    Nov. 5, 2008 8:13 a.m.

    I'm thrilled!

    FINALLY - a president to be proud of.

    Intelligent, educated, thoughtful, respectful of others.

  • SadDad
    Nov. 5, 2008 8:21 a.m.

    Hold on to your pocketbooks! Socialism is just around the corner with its higher taxes (on everyone, but more on the higher incomes) and higher unemployment, because our bosses will be getting taxed more so they can't keep as many employees. Robin Hood is a fallacy, but the Dems think it's real life.

    Also, hold on to your britches if you live in a large U.S. city. Another 911 isn't that many years off now that we have a dove leading the country, turning a blind eye to what's developing out there in the world. It'll be a repeat of the isolationism that Clinton created, causing us to be blindsided with 911. It'll happen again.

  • anon.
    Nov. 5, 2008 8:21 a.m.

    Obama won because of our current president. He really isn't that qualified, but i don't think a single repbulican candidate running this year would have won. I used to think the second coming wasn't going to happen in my life time...I am starting to reconsider.

  • The Rest Of The World
    Nov. 5, 2008 8:23 a.m.

    The rest of the world got the U.S. president that THEY wanted, I hope the U.S. can survive.

  • CNN.COM
    Nov. 5, 2008 8:23 a.m.

    Barack Obama thumped John McCain in the Electoral College tally and handily won the popular vote...do you need another proof of that Utah?

  • Party's Over
    Nov. 5, 2008 8:25 a.m.

    The party is over. Now the consequences. Party today; pay tomorrow. What people wanted was to vote for a black candidate. They have done that and now it is over! Now what? Nothing. There is no more. Obama is clueless. American is more divided than ever. A black president will not fix anything over anyone else. What the nation needed was talent. We have a financial crisis brought on by a democratic blocked congress. Mitt was the only nominee with experience we needed. Where is he? As well, we now have a very angry black first lady. Will she automatically become a proud American? And who has first word with the leader of the nation. America is leaderless with an attitude. We'll pay for it!

  • MMM
    Nov. 5, 2008 8:33 a.m.

    Congratulations America!!!

    Im so happy for Obama and so Sad for Utah "town", OBAMA WON BY ELLECTORAL VOTES AND POPULAR VOTES!!! AMERICA wants to see to the future, It is time to come TO WORK TOGETHER!!! No blue and Red...TOGETHER, I hope that we can help our country to work for a better future.

    Im sorry for those rednecks who think that going to war with everybody is going to solve our problems!!!

    I hope God will help us to fight for our country, no more colors, race, political side and hate, WORK AS ONE, AS AMERICANS!!!

    Congratulations Pres. Obama!!!

    (Tooele and SLC voted more for the democratic party last night!!! small towns did it for McCain)

  • New Blood
    Nov. 5, 2008 8:34 a.m.

    OBAMA RULES!!! LIVE WITH IT!!! AMERICA WILL BE OURS!!!!

  • DOTF
    Nov. 5, 2008 8:35 a.m.

    CONGRATULATIONS to all of the democrats. Yesterday was a big victory for you. I'm sure you won't be surprized if the Republicans give your president the same support and respect and your legislators the same co-operation as you have given their president and congress.

  • Evelin
    Nov. 5, 2008 8:37 a.m.

    I thought that McCain did a good job on his speech, he was respectful and gracious.

    Obama's speech was so inspiring, it was a really intelligent speech with references to Abraham Lincoln and FDR.

  • DOTF
    Nov. 5, 2008 8:44 a.m.

    to Amazed... you said, "This does not give us the right to say that he [Obama] has absolute control and sit by while things happen TO us."

    I thought that is exactly what Obama was saying during the campaign. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think this two year senator implied that the President was totally responsible for our problems. If that is the case, then he will be totally responsible for what happens to us in the next 4 years.

  • Time
    Nov. 5, 2008 8:45 a.m.

    to watch the ocean's rise begin to slow. Finally, the earth will begin to heal. Now we can cut and run from Iraq; prove our true cowardice.

  • How long until....?
    Nov. 5, 2008 8:46 a.m.



    I'm interested in seeing how long it will take for Nobama and the dems in congress to totally screw up our healthcare system, and energy companies.

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 5, 2008 8:48 a.m.

    Time to live in caves.

  • Technicality
    Nov. 5, 2008 8:52 a.m.

    Technically - not the first black president ...

    Barack is 50% white, 42% Muslim American, and only 8% African American - not that the media cared to point out the truth.

    It's more accurate to claim he is the first Muslim American President than the first African American President.

  • What's scarier?
    Nov. 5, 2008 8:52 a.m.



    I don't know what's scarier, Nobama's policies, or the sycophants that were crying as if he were the Lord had come back for the second coming.

    VERY disturbing....

  • A Liberal Utahn
    Nov. 5, 2008 8:52 a.m.

    I'm a temple going mormon who actually is glad Obama won because I do think the economy will improve under his direction. I also think gay and lesbians deserve the right to marry and enjoy the benefits of that union. I was for McCain until I actually got to the polls and then I did as directed and "voted my conscience" and it hit the Democratic party. I believe fundamentally that every man and woman has equal rights under the law no matter their race, religion, or sexual preference. I think in 4 years we will look back and realize the country made a good choice. I just hope nobody does anything stupid like they did to JFK. May God bless our new president with protection.

  • peppasensei
    Nov. 5, 2008 8:55 a.m.

    what Mr. Obama needs to understand is that he is is not in a position of leadership, he is in a position to server. therefore his statement should say that he is ready to serve all americans by upholding the constitution and fighting for our freedoms

  • cmk
    Nov. 5, 2008 8:56 a.m.

    If the LDS Church isn't a political organization per se, then why does it seem like all LDS politics are far right-wing Republican? I know many LDS people (some in my family) who act as though it's a sin to vote for a Democrat. However, they seem to have no problem voting for Republicans who have been guilty of adultery, corruption, greed, torture, war-mongering, etc etc etc. So where is the respect for human life in those areas. I think the LDS people have gone too far over to the evangelical way of thinking and have lost their 'political' way.
    To remain so rigid and fixed on the current policies of the Bush administration is to have blinders on.
    How can such an enlightened people be so in the dark on where the country and world want to go - which is toward peace and equality and toward the message Obama is attempting to bring. Christ brought the same message. It was popular in Christs time and it is popular now.

  • Failed party
    Nov. 5, 2008 8:57 a.m.

    Obama could have never have won without those voters who elected Bush. Republicans never accepted personal accountability so, voters held them accountable last last by electing Obama and by increasing the power of democrats in the congress.

    Lies and fear failed. the vast majority of Americans said no the Limbaugh's lies. They saw the conservative propaganda machine as part of the problem. How could those who were selling Bush and trickle down economics last election have credibility today?

  • AMERICA is the lesser
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:00 a.m.

    America is certainly no longer the "united states" but rather the divided states. Liberal socialists on one side and conservative people of faith and values on the other. America in my opinion still have many good, patriotic, hard working people however... they are in the minority in this country. I am NOT PROUD to be an American right now. The liberal and radical of this country (the majority) just elected a radical, weak, extreme left character that couldn't even pass an FBI clearance with his shady past. That is nothing to be proud about. America is a lesser country today and is only a sad shadow of what it once was.

  • Oh Brother
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:00 a.m.

    I felt sick when Clinton was elected in 94', now I feel scared with Obama. Heaven help us.

  • Simon Says
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:05 a.m.

    I am amazed at the insane ideas and folktales that are being spoken about Obama in Utah. He's the anti-Christ, he'll close gun stores, he's going to ban the Pledge, he's communist, he's going to usher in the end, if you vote for him you are not a good LDS, he's the one that will destroy the Constitution, he's actually an Arab Muslim, he is a terrorist in disguise, etc. Come on people. This is America. Trust in The Constitution, trust in the democratic process, trust in yourselves.
    I am not saying he is the panacea that this country needs, but he certainly was the best candidate, and the majority of the USA believes that. Certainly a better option than George Bush. If the Republicans had won, then the Dems would have been disappointed. Either way, embrace Obama. He, as other presidents, needs the prayers and support of a nation that is hurting.
    Utah needs to forget the radical right wing "folktales" and get to work.

  • So Sad
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:07 a.m.

    It is so sad that we voted in a man and called it a great day for Blacks. When will we as a nation look at a man based on the "content of his heart" and not his color? Surely, racism is alive and well in the USA and we don't even know it.

  • Yea Obama!!
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:08 a.m.

    This was my frist year to vote and I'm so proud to have taken part of such an election. Not, because Obama is the first African-American President (something our nation should surely be proud of) but, because I have watched for the last eight years through lies and bad policies my future being gambled with. Maybe Obama's plans won't work, but we know for a fact those of the Bush admisistration didn't. Congratulations Barack Obama!

  • OBAMA THE GREAT
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:08 a.m.

    McCain verbally abused his wife with trash talk. That put a stop to my vote for him. I have no respect for a man who would use such filthy words towards his wife or anyone else. I SAY, ALL POWER TO OBAMA!!!

  • I am not folowing.
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:11 a.m.

    I will not follow a marxist anywhere! I would say it in another way, but it would be filtered. God bless the sheep of america. er, actually never mind.

  • HE WON BECAUSE...
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:11 a.m.

    MCCain: 55.753.790 46% Popular votes / 147 Electoral Votes

    Obama: 62.945.914 52% Popular votes / 349 Electoral votes

    USA VOTED FOR HIM!!!

  • Edgar Friendly
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:11 a.m.

    re: Socialism | 1:31 a.m. Nov. 5, 2008

    3 words: Wall St Bailout

    Its okay to nationalize losses of the plutocrats so Joe Average has to struggle even more?

    It amazes me that average people swallow the GOP mantra yet its a party of rich old well connected white men.

  • stilinut84651
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:14 a.m.

    The sky is not falling. Obama won...whether you like it or not. Now, what are YOU going to do to help our country? Put down the poison pen, quit your griping, and look around you. Look for something that you can do; even if it just taking a walk, meeting your neighbors and work together. Start with baby steps; improve your neighborhood.

  • Well..
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:18 a.m.

    folks, that just goes to prove the power of the media. They picked their candidate, and everyone followed. If they would have showed McCain in a good light, and Obama in the the bad light it would have gone the other way. So who is really in control of America? Does that bother anyone else?

  • Time to unite
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:18 a.m.

    People, turn off Sean, Rush and Glenn and get back to some reality. The sky is not falling as they may want to believe because they hook you and make you want to listen to them like a soap opera. Same goes for Olberman and Franken and their like. Most of America is somewhere in the middle and believe some of the things Republicans say and some of the thing Democracts say.Get on with your life and put your best foot forward. Your negativity is making you grow old fast.

  • Utah in good company...
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:19 a.m.

    Let's see who voted with Utah:

    Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, Arkansas, Missouri, Kansas, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Dakotas, Wyoming, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Idaho, Montana...

    Must be the "Real America"

  • xscribe
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:21 a.m.

    There's many posts on this issue, but the only two that count are the first two. The first post, posted by a self-proclaimed Republican, is spot on, is what President Obama is all about and what he hopes for. I commend this person; your post is perfect.

    The second post (you know who you are) shows the ugly side of America, is antithetical to what President Obama stands for and what the majority of the American people want. It's also written with a thinly-veiled racist attitude that is disgraceful.

    Today we showed the world that America can once again be seen as the glimmer of hope, something we gave President Bush 8 years to achieve. How about we give President Obama his 4-year chance before we dim that glimmer of hope. Let's see if we're better off in four years than we are today. Instead of taking your ball and going home, stand up to the plate and hit a home run.

  • Listen to the man!
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:23 a.m.

    It is clear that many of the posts here have never taken the time to even listen to what Obama has had to say. If you get your information about Obama from McCain, if you get your information about Obama from the conservative talking heads, and if you get your information about Obama from viral emails then you deserve the self-inflicted disappointment you are bound to suffer over the next four years. Let's be sure to make Utah the self-deprecating, victimized state it was under the Clinton administration while the rest of the nation moves forward into a new phase of unification. Let's be sure to cry foul at every turn because Bill O'Reilly told us to. Let's be sure to deny the fact that the last four years were pretty terrible for the majority of Americans. And above all else, please, let's pretend like everyone else in the country agrees with us. That, after all, is what a good patriot would do.

  • Oh Please
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:24 a.m.

    It's morning in America. Obama is the first inspirational president we've had since JFK. It feels like the great days of Lincoln and FDR. Wouldn't it be great if we could all get behind him? It's probably too much to ask for some people to get their heads out of the mud...

  • red state, blue state
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:28 a.m.

    I disagree with Obama on many issues, but I'm fully with him on decrying the red-state, blue-state categorization of the country. Unfortunately it seems that many of his supporters posting here are not fully with him-- he means it's time to stop name-calling, and that includes epithets directed at the despised Republican party, the religious right, and even George Bush and Dick Cheney.

    Congratulations to the new president-elect.

    (For the record, neither major party received my vote this year.)

  • wow
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:28 a.m.

    I can't believe some of the stuff I am reading... I am disappointed to say the least. Not with the president that AMERICA picked, but with what so many people are posting here. I can't believe that we are actually talking about what color of president leads us. Either way we should support who leads us, and pray they lead is in the direction that is needed. I think we (America) is going to be just fine.

  • Webby- its a beautiful day
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:30 a.m.

    A degree of equality was realized last night- this man contains with in him, the American idea, he grew up modestly-internationally succeeded at an elite university and maintained his roots.

    This is a man who is supported by the entire world. Wake up Republican conservative haters; this isn't a time to expect failure, it is a time to identify that the world and this country wanted this man to be our president- the world is checking and now, trying to balance.

    This is a time in which we need the most support for a man who is promising big thing and needs your help to deliver. This is not communism, this is not socialism, this is the action of equality rather than the hope or thought of it.

    It is time for us to respect at least the idea of change and embrace the chance for unity.

    No man should blame what has happened on any single party or person, collectively the state of america has weakened and Obama is asking us TO BE TOGETHER IN CHANGE

    its not about pocket books, its not about bigger government. It is about an opportunity, what this country is founded on.

  • Good riddence
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:30 a.m.

    I grew up in Salt Lake. My entire family is still there. After reading the ignorant and hateful comments of Utahns on this website, I can only be grateful I no longer live there. Just shocking.

  • Shocked
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:31 a.m.

    I'm shocked how cynical some of those posting here. Someone hope is bad thing, and it isn't obvious that Obama is far more competent than Bush the experienced, I get you to re-examine your thoughts.

  • Des News should fact check
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:33 a.m.

    Some of the postings on here are full of wrong information. "Soldier" falsely claims that the US was the first country to ban slavery, that is incorrect, it was Canada followed by Britain. "Soldier" falsely claims that slavery remained legal in the Northern states after the Civil War, that is incorrect: Massachusetts banned slavery already in the 1780s (always a leader in civil rights) and one of the main causes of the civil war was the fact that slavery was illegal in the North but legal in the South.

    Bad enough that "Soldier" is ignorant of American history, I wish the Des News was not a forum for him or her to spread nonsense and ignorance even farther.

  • Wow
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:35 a.m.

    Wow! Someone posted that Obama is a Muslim. Where does such ignorance come from? Wow!

  • President Obama
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:36 a.m.

    I'm just glad that will have a president with some grasp of the English language and can articulate his thoughts...

  • Obama vs. Russia
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:36 a.m.

    Russia is about to place short range missle along eastern Europe's border.
    What's Barry gonna' do? Talk? Smile pretty?
    God help us.

  • yaba
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:36 a.m.

    McCain was a born loser

  • GWB
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:39 a.m.

    "voting rights" when you say "Maybe it's time that only people who contribute to society can vote! Requirements: Pay taxes, Employed or actively seeking employment, Finish high school, Pay child support, No criminal record, Full time student."

    You are positively stuck in the 18th century.

    How about limiting it to certain skin colors, land owners, heck, lets take the women voting rights away too.

    Is that the example of Democracy we want in Iraq and Afghanistan?

    I thought Democracy was about giving the ruled a chance to select their representatives? You know, a government OF the people, BY the people, FOR the people.

    Scratch that, just like in the Palestinian state, the elections didn't go the way we wanted so we are going to ignore the result.

    That is a twisted for of democracy you believe in.

  • I hope we'll be OK
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:43 a.m.

    All I can do now is hope that the feeling of dread that I have right now is wrong. I do not fear the president elect because he is black. I do not fear him because he is a democrat. I just feel that he might be one of those gifted orators with flattering speech that woos people into following him down a dangerous path. History is full of those type of men. Once again I hope, desperatly hope, that I am wrong.

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:44 a.m.

    Most of you who complain about Obama raising taxes will benefit from his tax cuts more than if McCain would have become president.

  • Thanks Cats
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:44 a.m.

    As a democrat and someone that has had their share of differences with Cats at times, I want to thank Cats for their respectful tone and fully support their call for republicans to take this as a call to reorganize and come back as a stronger party, our country really needs to have strong parties that can represent all points of view.

  • Obama2008
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:44 a.m.

    Media ... blah blah blah

    Socialist ... blah blah blah

    Not born in this country ... blah blah blah

    Terrorist ... blah blah blah

    Hey sheep ... I think Hannity is on right now.

  • Marianne
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:45 a.m.

    How can he wrote: "how can he lead all Americans when his value system is so much different than that held by so many of us?" He can lead us with dignity, kindness and grace. With honesty, as he promised in his speech. Get out and see the world--you will see we now have a leader who has a value system in line with most of the rest of the country and the world!!!

  • Dear "I am not following"
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:46 a.m.

    You clearly don't know what Marxism is. The ironic part of your post is that you call voters of Obama sheep when you follow like a sheep those who claim Obama is a Marxist.

    Educate yourself.

  • Dear Laura
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:48 a.m.

    You don't know what socialism means. Furthermore, Bush has threatened our freedom to an extreme degree, so don't fool yourself.

    Obama is a breath of fresh air! Horray!

  • MTB
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:50 a.m.

    Obama won, now let's move on. In-fighting will not do our nation any good. He will have many eyes on him over the next four years, I hope he doesn't make too many mistakes because in USA there always has to be a "Fall Guy". Bush was blamed for all the bad news but, we know that he did the best he could with the problems he faced and the restrictions that Congress placed upon him. Have a little heart and hope for the best for our country, perhaps this is a good change. Let's give Obama a chance.

  • Attention all Utah-bashers
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:50 a.m.

    Try to take a cue from your hero, the president-elect: we are the United States of America, not the United Blue States of America. It's time to end the partisan bickering. Be as gracious in winning (as Obama was) as you would like us to be in losing. Reach out and try to understand those you don't agree with. You may find that we have legitimate concerns too, and maybe, just maybe, find something to agree with us about.

    Congratulations Sen. Obama. You did not have my vote, but you have my support.

  • Thank heaven for term limits
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:51 a.m.

    If Bush-Cheney were on the ticket again, I think alot of you people would vote for them. Come on folks.

  • Dear "OH Brother"
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:51 a.m.

    You are scared because people are pumping you full of lies.

  • Obama
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:52 a.m.

    Time to paint the Whitehouse black! I love that everyone thinks our country is in trouble now the Obama is going to be President. How can it be worse? I think in Obama's speech last night the number one person he should have thanked was George W. If Obama is so against the morals that most people have in this country, then why did more people vote for him? I personally am not a big Obama supporter but anyone but Bush is an improvement.

  • Please, Stay in Utah
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:55 a.m.

    I was born and bred in Utah, still love Utah, but now live elsewhere for work reasons. I confess, I never realized how narrow my viewpoint was until I got off my steady diet of Hannity, Rush and the Fox gang. No one would ever consider me a Democrat, and my liberal friends would die laughing if you claimed I was liberal. With that said:

    I feel bad for those of you in Zion who still rant about Obama and destruction of American and Constitution hanging by the thread, etc. The only thing I ask is that those of you with such myopia please restrict your life in Utah so that the cancer is isolated in one place.

    For those of you in Utah who are ready to move on and make America work, but are stuck living with the first group: My condolences.

  • I'll be waiting and watching
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:57 a.m.

    to see what President Obama and a democratic congress do. It will be fun to sit by the sidelines and watch and criticize like the demos have done for 4 years. Or are republicans too polite or 'patriotic' to spread vile, disgusting, mean-spirited remarks.

  • english language
    Nov. 5, 2008 10:05 a.m.

    I've listened to Obama and thought he has an excellant grasp of the english language and can articulate his thoghts very well.
    That's why I didn't vote for him. His language told me he is a Marxist.

  • I guess
    Nov. 5, 2008 10:06 a.m.

    I'm the only Mormon who likes president Bush and still voted for Obama. I voted for hope, I didn't vote for Obama just because "Bush was so terrible". I really believe history will show Bush as a great president. But I also think Obama will be great too. From reading these posts I do not fit in with most people's line of thinking. Come on Republican's get off your high horse and come back to reality. We need a change. When the economy is failing and the rich just keep getting richer it makes sense to tax them more. It is a lie to say they earned it. How, when companies are losing profits, have the CEOs earned multimillion dollar bonuses? Obama won because he represents the middle class. The middle class that has carried the poor and rich classes for too long. I've never been so excited about a presidential speech. I'm glad our country will continue to climb.

  • By your fruit
    Nov. 5, 2008 10:08 a.m.

    I wonder how many conservatives here recall the laughter when Limbaugh called Clinton the first black president? Want was Rush's reaction to Powell's endorsement? It was because Powell was black.

    Obama makes a statement that our Constitution was imperfect because it had permitted slavery. This was morphed by propagandist into Obamas will change our constitution if he is elected. Rush figured his listen where so stupid they won't know it takes two thirds of congress and two thirds of states to ratify any changes to our constitution.

    It was Obama playing the race card?

    Americans made a historic statement last night that proved any kid growing up today can become president. No longer can it be said that America is inherently racist.

    What do you think the world saw? Few nations can claim to give this much opportunity. America is viewed today for it's ability to include all people.

  • NO SURPRISE HERE
    Nov. 5, 2008 10:09 a.m.

    If you are surprised that a radical, weak, liberal just won the white house - don't be. America is a fallen country leaning toward liberal socialism and France like appeasement. At least 60% of American's are NOT American's. Not true American's anyway. Ask people in the BIG cities why they voted for this impostor and they will say it is because they now get free welfare checks and government insurance. GEEE, how cool is that!!!! The greatness of the people of this country is a thing of the past.

  • Freedoms Gained
    Nov. 5, 2008 10:09 a.m.

    For those of you who believe freedoms will be lost, two words...Patriot Act.

    There really isn't anything worse than having our own government spy on us in the face of a real war, over oil. Obama has vowed to go after Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan, where they actually are. Not in america and not in Iraq where Haliburton and oil men are. Colin Powell said it best, it is the fear of where the country was headed that made him change his vote. That's why I voted for him.

  • to Republicans
    Nov. 5, 2008 10:11 a.m.

    You cannot ignore these words:

    "There will be setbacks and false starts. There are many who won't agree with every decision or policy I make as president. And we know the government can't solve every problem.But I will always be honest with you about the challenges we face. I will listen to you, especially when we disagree. And, above all, I will ask you to join in the work of remaking this nation, the only way it's been done in America for 221 years block by block, brick by brick, calloused hand by calloused hand"

    It is now up to you to at least give him a chance- he is promising to listen and explain every decision he, the senate, and the house make.

    He is best giving us a chance to be united. Please take this chance.

  • Obama Republican
    Nov. 5, 2008 10:14 a.m.

    We won! Now we will see the Republican's in their true light. The gears are starting to turn, we will see, stone walling, obstruction, negativity.

    Love it or hate it Millions of people world wide have a spirit of hope, a spirit of friendship, a spirit of renewal.

    If hope allows people to move forward, to have confidence, to take risks again, then more power to President Elect Obama!

  • An historic moment
    Nov. 5, 2008 10:15 a.m.

    Much of the country were supporting Richard Nixon in 1960. Instead, a young, charismatic, inexperienced, "liberal" first term senator out of Massachusetts won the white house. Let's get behind President Obama. Our country needs a great president right now.

  • anon
    Nov. 5, 2008 10:16 a.m.

    Hat off to "let's see what they do". Maybe we are entering the age of accountability! No one to blame but the dem's now.

  • home school
    Nov. 5, 2008 10:18 a.m.

    I plan to take all my children out of school and Home school.
    I suggest if you love your family you might consider it also.
    I will not allow socialists school teachers to continue to indoctrinate my lovely children.

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 5, 2008 10:21 a.m.

    To "I'll be waiting and watching"-

    If you read any of the earlier posts you'll see that republicans aren't, "to polite or 'patriotic' to spread vile, disgusting, mean-spirited remarks"

  • Good ol' USA
    Nov. 5, 2008 10:23 a.m.

    This should shut up all those Europena countries that think they have become more progressive that the USA. None of them have ever elected a minority as head of state.

  • what's the matter
    Nov. 5, 2008 10:23 a.m.

    I'm glad for the promise this election outcome holds for America. Like he said, it's not going to be an easy job- he acknowledges that and welcomes different view points on how to run the country. America is a great nation. It's a true democracy so stop fretting the he will run the country down. Work hard, realize your full potential and your American dream. America needs to soften its image in the world. it needs a peace maker and not a war monger, It needs to build new bridges and re-build the bridges burned by the prev admin. The nations of the world are interdependent on one another and we do better united. No man is an island. America, though a great nation, isn't an island.

  • Dana
    Nov. 5, 2008 10:24 a.m.

    I will never accept such a pro-abortion and anti-constitutuional quasi-socialist as my president. I have too much respect for the right to life to accept a man who is so pro-abortion. BO is a disgrace and Americans who voted for him will soon have buyers remorse and some of us will say I told you so.

  • dana
    Nov. 5, 2008 10:26 a.m.

    I am for the first real time in my life truly ashamed and embarrassed to be an American.

  • Obama Nation
    Nov. 5, 2008 10:27 a.m.

    I was so scared at the state of the country I didn't go to work this morning! I don't think I will go to work again for four years. I will just sit in my house and rot. I am so scared of change. Leave me alone. We are all going to die? Did anyone think of the children? 2 Legit 2 quit

  • 52% of Americans Ignorant/Naive
    Nov. 5, 2008 10:31 a.m.

    52% of Americans were stupid enough to believe that Obama will lower their taxes. He's voted almost 100 times to NOT do that. He threw out the word "Change" and 52% of Americans believed; yet he promotes "MORE OF THE SAME" government overspending. Obama has more questionable relationships than those who served Hitler. 92% of African Americans voted for Obama; sounds like a # that might bring up the question of racism.

    SOCIALISM here we come.

    If you don't know why you were put on this earth I would suggest you find out immediately.

  • O.K. Reps, Will You Own Up When.
    Nov. 5, 2008 10:33 a.m.

    OK, you Republicans who thinks the end of the world is coming because Obama won.

    I do like to ask you though, if the promises he made to America did work. If he made people live easier, pay less, and have medical coverage for everybody, and if were to garnered the respect of the world once more of this country, if he kept your home from being foreclosed, and reduced your taxes, would any of you ever be willing to own up, that Obama was the right man for the job?

    Would any of you own up that you had been wrong?

    Or does this man can never, ever meet your very decisive and very non-openminded attitude?

    Is there any part of you which is willing to have and at least an air of, well, lets see before I buy his product, or have you already decided that no matter how good he does, no matter how he has improved your life, secretly, like Joe the plumber when he admitted that his taxes will be lower with Obama, he will continue to deny as to who was the better person that changed America?

    WILL YOU OWN UP???

  • What a shame
    Nov. 5, 2008 10:33 a.m.

    McCain delivered a gracious, timeless concession speech urging unity and class. It's unfortunate and disheartening that his supporters cannot either follow his words or example.

  • Abortion issue
    Nov. 5, 2008 10:33 a.m.

    To all those poeple who are anti-abortion:

    How did Bush do on this issue? What did he do for 8 years to stop it?

    After Sept 11, Bush had a high approval rating, he could have done anything but he chose to kill people in iraq.

  • Obama2008
    Nov. 5, 2008 10:34 a.m.

    The sky is falling ... the sky is falling ...

    Kneejerk ... yank my kids from school ... all I can say is wow!

    Anyways, I'd rather my marxist kids not get mixed with your conservatism ... totally (tic)

  • Los Angeles
    Nov. 5, 2008 10:35 a.m.

    Wow, what a beautiful day it is Utah! Obama has won. Now is the time to set aside partisanship and step up to what our nation is truly capable of. How disappointing the Bush Administration was. Before we start calling Obama a socialist or marxist (which probably many of you don't know what the true definition is)we need to look at ideals that best fit the interest for our country's present and future. If you are SO against Socialist ideals. Stop receiving and reject government aid for college, social security, food stamps, WIC, medicare, and other governnment help. Are not these socialist ideals? Let's stop LABELING and use what we know what works for OUR country. We have much to learn not only what goes on in our own backyard but how other nations function as well. We could all learn from ONE ANOTHER and benefit as well. Keep an open mind and learn.

  • AH
    Nov. 5, 2008 10:36 a.m.

    All I can say is power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. You will see what Obama stands for during his term in office. You will see...

  • Re: Laura
    Nov. 5, 2008 10:39 a.m.

    Bush had control of the country for 8 years including vetoing congress. How did he do?

    I'll tell you what he did, he took over corporations like a COMMUNIST DICTATOR and gave the bill to the tax payers and their great grand children.

  • Dana
    Nov. 5, 2008 10:39 a.m.

    Many of you voted change just for change sake...do you have any real idea as to what that change is? How terribly naive. Again, I am embarrassed to be an American today and to see this country back so far away from the Constitution.

  • I'm offended!
    Nov. 5, 2008 10:41 a.m.

    I am a Utah born and raised Latter day saint who is living abroad, and has been for five years. I am getting tired of the misinformed people who think they understand other government forms. I live in a European country that is....get ready for this....SOCIALIST! I know...it is scary, right. Heaven forbid people get the health care services they need without having health care tied to a job that can be wiped out by a failing economy. Heaven forbid people have to pay a slightly higher tax for something, but get much more back from their government. (Oh, wait, when we lived in the states, my husband actually made less every year than we do now, and paid a higher percentage of tax)
    The reality is that most people have NO CLUE what a "social government" system means, and until you live in both, you really can't understand it. We have people here with extreme wealth, and people living off the system...hmmm just like when we were living in the states. The difference is that we don't have to worry about losing our home when we get sick.

    I am FOR positive changes in government. Good Luck, Obama!

  • Fred
    Nov. 5, 2008 10:43 a.m.

    So much emphasis has been put on Barack Obama being Black, when in fact he is half Black and half White. I am half Mexican and half White and consider myself just as much White as Mexican. Why does Barack and a good majority of his supporters suppress the White side of him (this seems a bit racist to me)? Especially when Barack's White side of the family is the one that raised him. Hey I'm proud to be White and I'm proud to be Mexican. Barack is just proud to be Black - something is wrong with this picture. I HAVE A DREAM...SO WE ELECT SOMEONE WHO SEEMS TO BE A BIT RACIST. THAT IS NOT THE DREAM THAT MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. HAD IN MIND. Please...Martin Luther King Jr. and Barack Obama DO NOT belong in the same arena. Now all you libs are going to jump on here and say that he does not suppress his White side, blah, blah, blah. The fact is he does, he embraces the Black side and not the White and it's so he can get the vote! That being said, he'll probably be as good a president as would John McCain.

  • When does my check come?
    Nov. 5, 2008 10:44 a.m.

    Yessirree, just so long as I don't make more than 300K ...er... 250K ...er... 200K ...er... 150K ...er... 120K ... just so long as I don't make any money at all I'll be doing great.

  • Braindead utahns
    Nov. 5, 2008 10:44 a.m.

    who think that any republican is better than any democrat, need to wake up and smell the roses. The times are too serious for us to be divided with this gang-affiliation loyalty to a certain party. Im a registered republican who happily voted democrat. I believe that we need a change in America and not a quick fix chamge like offshore drilling. We have 4% of the worlds oil supply and we use 25% of the world oil supply. So how much do you think prices are going to drop? Mcbush was not going to change anything. He has been in the senate for 29 years and votes with bush 95% of the time. Thats not change, thats more of the same.

  • Mike
    Nov. 5, 2008 10:45 a.m.

    I've talked to many business owners and they all say the same thing. "It doesn't matter if my taxes are raised, because I'm still going to make the same money as I always do, whether I have to decrease my employees pay or lay some of them off...I'm going to make the same amount of money". So all these people wanting to tax the rich, that's really not going to help things. And just for the record, I'm not rich, so when Barack raises taxes on my employer, I just hope my employer doesn't lower my salary or fire me so that he can afford the tax increase. So if the day comes that I'm fired, I'll thank Barack for taxing the rich guy and not me...great plan Barack.

  • Los Angeles
    Nov. 5, 2008 10:46 a.m.

    Dear Home School,

    I am single and my tax dollars pay for your child's education. Though I have no children I still have to pay taxes on my property so that your child can go to school to learn about how socialism is bad. Are you suggesting that because you do not agree with what you call "socialist ideals" that there should be no public school. Maybe all individuals who have children should pay for the children's schooling and receive NO help from the government. Then I can take those dollars I saved and buy me a nicer car was personalized licensed plates. Now that is true Capitalism. Think about it.

  • wrz
    Nov. 5, 2008 10:46 a.m.


    Anonymous | 3:30 a.m.: "Finally, the McBush nightmare is over!"

    Now begins the real life horror.

  • My heart sinks
    Nov. 5, 2008 10:48 a.m.

    I never knew people in Utah were so racist until I started reading the comments on this website.

  • dana
    Nov. 5, 2008 10:51 a.m.

    Why?

  • re: soldier
    Nov. 5, 2008 10:53 a.m.

    don't make stupid statements! the US was actually one of the last to ban slavery. england was actually the first. followed by the rest of europe, then the carribean, and then finally us!

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 5, 2008 10:53 a.m.

    MTB | 9:50 a.m. Nov. 5, 2008
    "Obama won, now let's move on. In-fighting will not do our nation any good."

    You shoulda told that to your Democrat friends for the last eight years.

  • Freddie
    Nov. 5, 2008 10:54 a.m.

    Obama Republican | 10:14 a.m. Nov. 5, 2008
    "We won! Now we will see the Republican's in their true light. The gears are starting to turn, we will see, stone walling, obstruction, negativity."

    Things learned from the Democrats over the last 8 years.

  • To Dana
    Nov. 5, 2008 10:58 a.m.

    I guess you didn't accept Bush as president either...he didn't do anything to stop abortion. Maybe you are NOT American.

  • michael in texas
    Nov. 5, 2008 10:59 a.m.

    what a great day in America democracy does work and works well

  • Baseball ,taxes, Obama
    Nov. 5, 2008 11:00 a.m.

    Well, that didn't take long. Baseball super-agent Scott Boros is looking into ways to avoid Obamas proposed tax increases on his very well off clients. You know, the "rich".
    Gee, I wonder if any other rich business people will be looking to avoid paying for Obamas idiotic tax and spend projects. Since Mr. Boros won't be in their corner maybe they can just lay off all the people that voted for this moron in the first place. Have fun small business owners.

  • Good grief
    Nov. 5, 2008 11:03 a.m.

    We're in this mess because no one has gone about fixing it. Democrats are to blame. Republicans are to blame. Doesn't matter who authored the bills that led to the mess, everyone's guilty cuz NOONE fixed it. Look in the mirror. What have we done for our country lately?

    Are we just going to sit on our behinds and whine like we have for the past umpteen years?

    I think we forget we elect people to represent us. Our bad that we allow them to forget/ignore what we'd like them to do then sit in office for years. If we aren't willing to take personal responsibility for how things are going in this country then we need to just shut up and take whatever happens with a modicum of dignity.

  • Reply to Soldier
    Nov. 5, 2008 11:03 a.m.

    The United States was NOT the first country in the world to outlaw slavery, not even on this side of the world. If I remember closely from history class, Cuba actually did that first in the Western Hemisphere. Also, most of the Latin American countries outlawed slavery as many as 20 or 30 years before the US. Actually, the US was one of the later countries to outlaw slavery. I actually think Brasil was the last. Gotta check your history . . .

  • Proud Obama Supporter
    Nov. 5, 2008 11:07 a.m.

    Go Obama! He won fair and square. Finally...Change is on the way!!!

  • 349 express to DC
    Nov. 5, 2008 11:09 a.m.

    re: Mahershalalhashbaz | 3:46 a.m. Nov. 5, 2008

    I disagree. Like many, I can see the light @ the end of the tunnel. It may be a freight train coming the other way but I'm willing to take that chance.

  • Re: Los Angeles
    Nov. 5, 2008 11:15 a.m.

    There is opposition to all things...sure those ideas sound great, sure they will benefit many. However, I am AGAINST my hard working tax dollars being distributed for government help plans to people who do give back. I am AGAINST illegal immigrants coming into this nation and reigning from these benefits. I am against distribution of wealth; taking from the rich and evenly distributing to the middle and lower class - I am FOR capitalism.

    You have to give a little to get a little...or at least you should if you don't want our economy to fall in shambles. Look at the UK in terms of socialism, their unemployment rate is ridiculous - their train of thought might be something like, "Why work if I am reaping the benefits of others".

    But what happens when the greatest minds and successful business owners don't get the recognition they deserve? I am not saying that there should be no tax breaks, by any means, you cut taxes to grow the economy - not distribute the wealth!

    -AH

  • To Dana
    Nov. 5, 2008 11:15 a.m.

    I'm ashamed you're an American too

  • Re: Obama Nation
    Nov. 5, 2008 11:16 a.m.

    I don't think I'll go to work either. I'll just live off of some entitlement program.

    I think it is funny that libs accuse conservatives of being brain washed by Rush. I don't have to listen to Rush to know what Obama stands for. I've heard it from his own lips that he thinks the constitution is an oudated document. I heard from his own lips that he wants to redistribute wealth. What part of wealth distribution is not socialist? Any logical thinker can see he is a socialist.

  • I voted for change...
    Nov. 5, 2008 11:16 a.m.

    because I BELIEVE in change. I BELIEVE we are capable of more. I BELIEVE we can do better. I don't think Obama is the sum of the answer. I think WE are.

    Can't we at least attempt to approach the new administration with open hearts and minds and see what it holds? It's our country, and just like we can make changes, we can also demand accountability from our elected officials. We have to be willing to do the work and not accept what we hear on Fox News or Anderson Cooper or wherever we are getting our information. We have to be willing to dig, and dig deep, and not accept something at face value just because it preaches to our particular choir.

    I am hopeful. Can't we all try to be hopeful, if only until we start to have reason not to be? Can we at least try to start healing divides, instead of spreading more hate?

    Please?

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 5, 2008 11:18 a.m.

    re: Ain't what you thought | 5:58 a.m. Nov. 5, 2008

    Alot of you are afraid of Obama being transparent and yet love the murkiness of the current monarchy? Interesting.

    Haven't you ever heard of believe half of what you see and none of what you hear?

    You prefer the heavy handed stupidity of W to Obama's pragmatism & message of hope.

    Its still We, the people right?


  • Tyler
    Nov. 5, 2008 11:17 a.m.

    To Freedoms Gained:
    If we were in Iraq for oil why are we spending all this time trying to set them up with a government? If we were in it for oil we would secure the oil fields and let the rest of the country rot. After saying that I am still for us getting out of Iraq responsibly.

  • Los Angeles
    Nov. 5, 2008 11:25 a.m.

    Dana, Dana.
    You are embarrassed to be an American!?!?! Hopefully just for today and tomorrow you will see that AMERICANS in a democratic structure built on the principle of our forefathers voted for this new direction for our country. Stop the sulking people!! Wow what a bunch of whiners and complainers! sheesh. Suck it up. Participate in your local government realm so that your voice continues to be heard whether or not people agree or disagree. But to say that you are embarrassed to be an American. whoa. Get your passport and go, baby go! Live in another country and you will see that what we have is a beautiful. Why do you think people risk their lives to enter this country? And men and women have given their lives for the freedoms that you enjoy. even the freedom to leave...Obama will bring a new direction a redirection, if you will, of what our country needs.

  • TWA
    Nov. 5, 2008 11:31 a.m.


    dana | 10:26 a.m.: "I am for the first real time in my adult life truly ashamed and embarrassed to be an American."

    For the first time in my adult life I want to puke.

  • Harold Bogatchie
    Nov. 5, 2008 11:32 a.m.

    Throughout this process I have said I respect John McCain, I do not like his politics. As evidenced by his e;pqiemt amd moving concession speech, John McCain is a Military man of honor. Having graduated Annapolis, duty, honor and country are paramount to John McCain. As the son of a military career (27 years) Sargent, I respect that. Having served 3 years myself, I respect that.

    Unfortunately, the "man" he chose to fall on his sword for, george w bush, does not DESERVE such an action from such a GREAT MAN as John McCain.

    Had John truly been a Maverick and turned against his cowboy Commander in Chief, I would have voted for him. Instead, he chose to "fall on his sword" for a punk cowboy. Not just any punk cowboy but a punk cowboy who managed to destroy the international reputation, economy and pride of this once GREAT nation! In fact, george may have managed to temporarily even destroy his own political party!

    I pray for the safety and guidance of President Elect Barack Obama! Your turn now to show some dignity and honor and, as John McCain advised, back YOUR new President!

  • Beau
    Nov. 5, 2008 11:44 a.m.

    YES WE CAN!
    YES WE CAN!

    It is my generation that has proven to break the chains of slavery. I am so pleased for America today. God bless America.

    Go Barack and my prayers are with you in your journey!

  • AH
    Nov. 5, 2008 11:44 a.m.

    This message board is seriously commical. Unreal. I don't even know how to respond. Praise the Lord above that Obama won.

  • Tammy
    Nov. 5, 2008 11:45 a.m.

    Whewwww! what a group.

  • Robo
    Nov. 5, 2008 11:45 a.m.

    If the United States is such a rotten place and no longer a beacon to the world, how come we have an illegal immigration problem?

  • Extremists
    Nov. 5, 2008 11:47 a.m.

    I'm alarmed by how people think Obama will "take all the money from the rich and give it to undeserving poor people." Even if he WANTED to do that, which he doesn't, he wouldn't be able to. Every president taxes. That doesn't mean all presidents have be socialists. Obama is just a little MORE taxing that Bush, that's all. Relax people. You'll be ok. And our society is not going to burn to the ground. But, if it makes you feel better to inaccurately assess our new president, well, that's your business.

  • I'm so happy
    Nov. 5, 2008 11:49 a.m.

    Finally, the government will take care of my every need. They will make me happy. They know me better than me. They will pay my mortgage, pay for my health insurance and provide for my every need. I don't have to worry about being rich any more as they will take what ever money I make to give to the poor. We can all be the same. Wait a minute, this sounds like Socia....! Opps I better not say that, they won't take care of me anymore.

  • heh
    Nov. 5, 2008 11:50 a.m.

    To echo a comment I've heard from so many Utahns:

    "If you don't like it, leave!"

    How's that shoe feel on the other foot?

  • IGNORANCE
    Nov. 5, 2008 11:52 a.m.

    STOP WRITING IGNORANT COMMENTS!!! about Socialism, Marxism, Economy, War etc...
    You live in UTAH, you dont really know what is really happening out there!!!
    WE NEED TO BE ONE!!! Thtas the only way that we can get things done!!!

    Do you think that is going to be easy to restore the economy, jobs, healthcare and all the issues we have now!!! NOPE!!! People talking about hate and ingorance DO NOT HELP!!!

    WE NEED TO LOOK FORWARD!!! UNITED STATES NOT "Joe the Plumber" (How much money he did make out of this election???)

  • OBAMA
    Nov. 5, 2008 11:56 a.m.

    you republicans are just jealous. You dont get your way so your cry about it like most republicans do. Barack obama is the next kennedy he is young and the young people in america trust and believe in him.

  • Frightening
    Nov. 5, 2008 11:56 a.m.

    I can't believe some of these comments. I voted for Obama because I read up on both candidates' policies and thought Obama's outweighed McCain's.

    Do people really think that we will be worse off in 4 years than we are now? Do people really think that Obama, a man who worked so hard to come from nothing, will just give "handouts" to people who aren't willing to work in order to prosper? Do people really think that Obama will somehow abolish the 2nd amendment? Do people think that he will work tirelessly to get Fox News, or any other right wing pundits, off the air? Do people really believe he will begin having dinner with terrorists and plotting ways to destroy the country he loves? Do people think it is true that his race will somehow affect their job status, one way or the other?

    Sad thing is, judging from the comments on this board, a startling amount of people here believe these things. That is the most frightening aspect of this election to me.

  • To: Soldier
    Nov. 5, 2008 11:58 a.m.

    Please check your history facts. America was a very late comer to the banning of slavery! One of the last of the 'civilized' world actually.

    Check out Great Britain, Spain, Sweden, Netherlands, France, Portugal, etc. All more than a half century before America stopped the horrible practice.

  • Dismayed yet resolute
    Nov. 5, 2008 11:59 a.m.

    Reading these comments, I am gladder than ever that I left Utah and quit the Mormon church. Such petty, small-minded, unintelligent nonsense. I am ashamed to have ever been associated with Utah.

  • Typical politician
    Nov. 5, 2008 12:01 p.m.

    It's amazing that so many slam McCain and praise Obama. A quick review of the committees they worked on and bills they sponsered would help enlighten everyone. If you look up the bills Obama supported you'll see see names like McCain. It sure looks like the senior senator did the work and the junior senator approved.

    This does give me hope that as with most politicians he said what people wanted to hear, but hopefully he'll continue to follow smarter, more experienced leaders.

  • Ing
    Nov. 5, 2008 12:02 p.m.

    Got news for you, "awesomeron": If you're an American citizen, Barack Obama is your next president, and everyone else's. Just like George W. Bush is our president now. If you don't want Obama as your president, you'd better find a new country to belong to.

    I think Obama has the potential to be a great leader. But the bottom line is that unless Americans all pull together as citizens of this nation and try to find the best solutions to the problems we face we will all decline together, and fall victim to our problems instead of making things better.

    I have great respect for John McCain because he has shown over the years that he is one of the few politicians in this nation who has the guts and good sense to do exactly that--he doesn't just see enemies in the Democratic ranks, he sees people who can help solve problems. His concession speech last night was one of the best speeches I've ever heard a politician give--and I believe he meant every word of it. Let's follow his example and see if somehow, together, we can make good things happen.

  • RE: Baseball, taxes, Obama
    Nov. 5, 2008 12:02 p.m.

    "Well, that didn't take long. Baseball super-agent Scott Boros is looking into ways to avoid Obamas proposed tax increases on his very well off clients. You know, the "rich"."

    So it's up to the people who write the tax code to make sure the loopholes are closed.

    The rich are good at finding loopholes - that's one of the ways they become rich. It's why "trickle down" hasn't worked - they're not just good at finding holes, they're good at plugging them too.

  • CB
    Nov. 5, 2008 12:04 p.m.

    Well there is nothing new here. It was all done under FDR. It's history repeating itself....it solved nothing then (the war saved the day) and what remained of his programs have prolong the misery even to this day and have solve nothing. I would sleep better if I knew how many voted for a black man and how many voted for a Marxist Socialist. Roosevelt had Stalin,Japan & Germany. Obama will have Putin,Iran and North Korea...and here we go, all over again.

  • Ernest T. Bass
    Nov. 5, 2008 12:05 p.m.

    O.K I don't care what all of you reich wingers say, I am ready to embrace Socialism if that what Pres. Obama wants.Stop complaining about high taxes. It is good for you.

  • @Dana
    Nov. 5, 2008 12:05 p.m.

    After you are done with the drama of being disappointed with McCains loss the country could use yuor help to solve the difficult problems we face.

  • Re: Ryan Peterson 5 a.m
    Nov. 5, 2008 12:13 p.m.

    Right on!

  • logically speaking
    Nov. 5, 2008 12:13 p.m.

    Yesterday, while at work, I changed the radio station from sports talk radio, to KSL hoping to hear some election coverage. It happened to be at 3:00 when the Shawn Hanitty show came on.

    Now I see where some of you people are coming from. What a waste of the five minutes that I could stomach that load of crap. But, here in these comments are the same ideals, the same bigotry and hate, and the same mis-information. I don't know how Rocky got through his debate with this yahoo without punching him right in the nose.

    Most of you swallowed the McCain campaign rhetoric hook, line and sinker. I only hope that you can follow the requests he made in his speech last night, and work to better your situation, instead of doing everything you can to fight the change that is coming.

    Judging from the posts, most of you will not, and my hat is off to the people who say they will. But, then again, the prophet told us to treat people that do not agree with us with kindness and respect. That hasn't happened either. Go figure.

  • Dave M
    Nov. 5, 2008 12:15 p.m.

    President Elect Obama is neither the second coming of Christ nor the antichrist. He is a skilled politician, who, like Ronald Reagan rode a wave of domestic and international dissatisfaction to the white house based on a message of hope. My fears for him and our country revolve not around socialism but rather, that he is beyond his depth in the international field. Also, that the level of expectation surrounding him is so exaggerated that no one could meet it.

    As to the hopes and aspirations of African Americans, it is frankly high time to have a black president. He may not have been my choice at this time, but as a Republican I will take to heart what John McCain said and offer our next president our goodwill and earnest effort to find ways to come together to find the necessary compromises to bridge our differences and help restore our prosperity, defend our security in a dangerous world, and leave our children and grandchildren a stronger, better country than we inherited. Whatever our differences, we are fellow Americans.

  • What happened.
    Nov. 5, 2008 12:15 p.m.

    In 2000, John McCain labeled Jerry Falwell and others like him as "agents of intolerance".

    On May 13, 2006, John McCain went to Lynchburg, VA and kissed Falwell's backside.

    That was the day he lost the 2008 election. When a man can't be true to himself, he can't be true to anyone.

  • Lanius
    Nov. 5, 2008 12:16 p.m.

    This is the very first time that I voted for a Demo President! This country must not stand still, change of any kind (good or bad) can only make us better/stronger as a nation. Standing still has not improved our nation on bit. What has happened in the last 8 years to improve our country? What progress has been made? Let's at least try something new. I would rather fail on my feet trying then sit on my butt and wait for failure to find me.

  • OmahaMan
    Nov. 5, 2008 12:17 p.m.

    "We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers"...

    You can either get behind him, give the man a chance, support him at the times he shows righteous leadership or wallow in your own sense of defeat.

    Ten billion dollars per month for an unjust war or 10 billion to help your neighbor in this country?

    "Freedom is never free"- But I'm sure the Iraqi's are grateful for the wholesale rate.

    "Irritate a liberal, be successful"
    Irritate a conservative, help your neighbor.

  • wrz
    Nov. 5, 2008 12:19 p.m.


    Harold Bogatchie: "Your turn now to show some dignity and honor and, as John McCain advised, back YOUR new President!"

    Republicans will back the "new president" just as the Democrats backed the current president.

  • Our America
    Nov. 5, 2008 12:20 p.m.

    I have to say it makes me laugh to read all these post about how far apart we are left and right wing. People on a world political scale Democrats and Republicans are so close to the same party that the majority of the world cant tell why there are two parties. I think it is long past time we put aside are very slight differences and come together as Americans cause that is what we are first and formost. And remember that it dose not matter who are president is or who controls congress, these men and women work for us and its our job to make sure they do what we want. So if you really want politics your way do what you should and raise your voice to those who represent you. Dont leave it in there hands. We all have a voice remember to use it.

  • Young Voter
    Nov. 5, 2008 12:20 p.m.

    The young voters that put Obama in the presidency are the same people who by a playstation and then turn around and by the ninendo. Simply because it's the next new thing (whether it's better or not is irrelevant). They voted for obama because he's the next new thing, I guarantee 90% of them couldn't tell you one of his policies. Now go have a cup of coffee so you can function today.

  • SuperObama
    Nov. 5, 2008 12:22 p.m.

    I woke up this morning and for the first time in 20 years I could walk.

  • Yay!!
    Nov. 5, 2008 12:25 p.m.

    Like his ubiquitous logo shows, the sun is now rising on a new generation of hope. I am so proud to be an American. I am so proud of President Elect Obama. He is a poet for peace, an icon for hope, and a beacon for change. The whole world celebrates this historic victory. It's just too bad so many in Utah are bitter and whiny about it. They are missing out on an amazing chapter in our history. I suggest they either join the movement, or get out of the way. We are moving on.

  • to Technicality
    Nov. 5, 2008 12:25 p.m.

    Since when is Muslim a race like black and white are? You do weird math.

  • Oblabma
    Nov. 5, 2008 12:28 p.m.

    He's been elected, where's the change? I don't see any change. Welcome to socialism people. God help us.

  • Socialism?
    Nov. 5, 2008 12:35 p.m.

    Anyone saying that Obama is bringing in "socialism," that he is going to re-distribute all wealth, and create socialized medicine, is willfully misunderstanding. Nothing he is proposing is socialism - by definition. Liberal and bigger government, yes. Socialism, absolutely not.

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 5, 2008 12:37 p.m.

    Just get over it antiobamas..Obama is our President and if you don't like it too bad for you...I couldn't be happier!!

  • RE: Beau
    Nov. 5, 2008 12:45 p.m.

    "Go Barack and my prayers are with you in your journey!" That was your ignorant comment. I thought it was America's journey. I guess Obama is bigger than America in your eyes. It's views like this that make me think that people like you just don't get it. If it's Obams's journey by himself it won't last long and you'll never see a half white man in the presidency again.

  • Fran
    Nov. 5, 2008 12:47 p.m.

    Attention to OBAMA posting here:

    Ummm...he's the next Kennedy? Kennedy is dead.

  • My fellow Republicans
    Nov. 5, 2008 12:50 p.m.

    As soon as we're over out tantrums (believe me, mine lasted all night), we need to get off of our butts and push conservative principles harder than ever--if our candidates for various pubic offices, even at the local level, don't reflect those values, then we throw the bums out and find ones who do. We lost this election not because conservatism is wrong or outdated, but because too many of our own elected Republicans had their own political and personal interests ahead of that of their constituents. Too many (including McCain, as well as occasionally President Bush, whom I dearly love and voted for twice and would have voted for again if possible)decided to throw their lot in with the liberals too often for the sake of political expediency. Some tried not to appear too conservative. It's time to purge the linguini-spined moderates and liberals from our own ranks, and get back to the conservative principles that made Ronald Reagan so successful. We can't beat the Democrats at their own game; we have to make them play our game. We have a lot of work to do in the next four years. Let's get busy.

  • Tolerance of others
    Nov. 5, 2008 12:51 p.m.

    People in Utah need to get a life and learn to get over all their holier than thou pompous nothingness. It doesn't help our country being the BIGGEST state known as the #1 bigot mongers. Peace to the Obama family. I believe they will do well in leadership.

  • irishman
    Nov. 5, 2008 12:53 p.m.

    Ryan Peterson, thank you I am proud I am An AMERICAN, and although my candidates did not get in, I stand readt to support the local, county, state an federal government elect. "We need to pray and wish all the best in achieving the goals to keep AMERICA FREE." Even if we differ, we need to take responsibilty, and learn and grow from them, so we can have our generations to come, know that we supported and kept America Free.

  • Why U Lost
    Nov. 5, 2008 12:56 p.m.

    If you really want to know why you McCain supporters lost, you need only to read all the vileness and hatred posted here. I would have expected better from a region that is the World Headquarters of a Great Amercian Religion.

  • SadDad
    Nov. 5, 2008 12:57 p.m.

    RE: Frightening

    It's not a matter of WHO Obama is, but the fact he's a socialist at heart and will have ALL of the government at his disposal. He'll NEVER veto anything.

    His policies will create more unemployment among small businesses (the heart of America's economy) and create runaway inflation. You can't stifle free enterprise and not pay the price.

    The worst thing voters can do is place all of the government under one party, Democrat OR Republican. In either case, bad things happen over time because of the runaway governing that goes on. I myself prefer at least one of the three be one political party when the other two are another.

    Dems are great for helping the poor and for the environment. Reps are great for security and the economy (don't let the liberal press brainwash you into thinking it's a Dem thing--history proves otherwise if your mind is open). We need both working together, which can't be done for at least another two years, and probably four.

    Keep your wallet close and don't live in big cities for the next four years. Some things will get better, but the key ones won't.

  • Breaking News
    Nov. 5, 2008 12:57 p.m.

    This just in: Obama wins the Presidency. Earth still in orbit. Life on Earth expected to survive.

  • GO OBAMA GO
    Nov. 5, 2008 12:59 p.m.

    OBAMA PRESIDENT....THE SKY IS FALLING...UNDER UTAH REDNECKS BRAINS!!!

  • Gal50
    Nov. 5, 2008 12:59 p.m.

    All of the backwards states voted for McCain and nearly all of the decent states voted for Obama. If you don't believe me, get out a map. Near the end, McCain got a few states that some find halfway decent - Texas, Arizona and Utah. But the rest of the map isn't looking too good for McCain.

  • Sad
    Nov. 5, 2008 1:01 p.m.

    Yes, it's sad to consider the hateful, ignorant comments posted from Utahns on a web page owned by the LDS Church. Sad.

  • Naysayers
    Nov. 5, 2008 1:01 p.m.

    Thats right all you naysayers put your binkys in your mouths cause your gona be crying alot for the next couple of years. Maybe you all should try a new point of view, maybe try being positive for once in your lives!

  • John Riggs
    Nov. 5, 2008 1:01 p.m.


    Proud Obama Supporter | 11:07 a.m. Nov. 5, 2008
    Go Obama! He won fair and square. Finally...Change is on the way!!!


    Wait until Obama takes all the guns away NO MORE DEER HUNT!!! He also will reinstate the draft and I hope all you little liberals are the first ones called to serve... You might just get what you asked for LOL HAHAHAHAHAHA!

  • Kermit the frog
    Nov. 5, 2008 1:04 p.m.

    i think it's time we stop, children
    what's that sound
    everybody look what's goin down

    there's battle lines being drawn
    nobody's right if everybody's wrong
    young people speakin there minds
    getting so much resistance far behind

    it's time we stop,
    hey what's that sound
    everybody look what's goin down

  • Obama wins, America loses
    Nov. 5, 2008 1:05 p.m.

    I am proud to say that I didn't participate in the madness of voting the most liberal politician in America to the presidency. I did not take party in putting a man in office who seeks to destroy the America I love. I can sleep at night knowing that I didn't side with socialism. I didn't support a surrender to our enemies mentality that will incite future attacks on America. I didn't vote to reduce national security and increase reliance on government. I didn't vote for the killing of the unborn. I didn't vote for increased taxation and the injustice of "wealth distribution." I didn't vote for increased pandering to special interests and earmarks that result in wasteful spending of my tax dollars. In other words, I can proudly say that I didn't vote for Obama and when this all comes down I can feel good knowing that I wasn't party to the madness!!

  • Steve
    Nov. 5, 2008 1:05 p.m.

    Yes! I'm a very happy Republican today... the right person won, Obama. Congratulations to Obama and I hope he does the great job I suspect he will.

    Oh, Rush Limbaugh should be very happy now (though he'll tell you he's not)... now he'll have something to gripe about on a daily basis. Much harder for him to do his show when a Republican wins I'm sure.

    But seriously... I do think Obama will be great and that he's just what the country needs now (and the world for that matter). It was very interesting to watch history literally be made last night.

  • Citizen
    Nov. 5, 2008 1:12 p.m.

    The person quoting Obama's voting record is not saying much, since he did not appear in Congress enough to vote. I fear for the country now that he is the elect-pretender. This will be one of the more difficult presidencies for Americans to endure. Especially with those like Rev. Wright, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton "helping" Obama. Hold on to your wallet and watch over your shoulder for the terrorists to take aim at the US again. Be prepared as this one is all hype and no substance.

  • what is the use
    Nov. 5, 2008 1:12 p.m.

    as a college student i am now wondering, What is the use for higher education? When the more money i make the more money i lose, why not settle for a lesser paying job in a lower tax bracket when my income is going to come out the same

    america has failed, someone call up jim morrison and tell him he was right, this is the end

  • New Citizen
    Nov. 5, 2008 1:14 p.m.

    As a new citizen of this great country, I was able to vote for the first time and I chose Obama. He lifted my spirits and made me realize why I came here in the first place. Please, let us put aside our fears and differences and give this person a chance to see what he is made of instead of casting stones before he has had a chance to govern. If you came from a place where people do not have a voice, you would understand what despotic governments are really like.

  • Steve - YES! Saved from Palin!
    Nov. 5, 2008 1:15 p.m.

    This is another reason I'm VERY happy today... this country and the world have been saved from Sarah Palin being in the White House (as VP) and she won't be a heart beat away from the Presidency anytime soon. She can go back to Alaska and fade into the sunset and be forgotten.

    Let's just hope she doesn't destroy Alaska while she's still in power. Hopefully somebody will keep her in check and prevent harm to endangered animals that live there (whales and polar bears) and that the hunting of wolves from helicopters will be stopped.

    OH! And don't forget the Oil. Hopefully all her efforts to get drilling to start in the National Arctic Wildlife Preserve will be nipped in the bud and no drills will be built within it's boundries.

    I'm guessing the only people truly sad she's out of the picture are the stand up comics, Letterman, Leno, etc. as they've lost someone to joke about. Well they can console themselves as they still have Joe Biden, surely he'll provide some material for them with his tendancy to put his foot in his mouth on a regular basis.

  • Re:watching (9:57am)
    Nov. 5, 2008 1:20 p.m.

    That is almost funny. Personally, I don't care for the name calling from either side of the aisle, but give me a break. Have you not really listened to the boorish behavior over the years of the Limbaughs, Hannitys and others of that ilk?

  • The End?
    Nov. 5, 2008 1:31 p.m.

    Such negativity! It's unrealistic.

  • Jade
    Nov. 5, 2008 1:35 p.m.

    To the person who said that this country would be hanging from a single thread in the last days and that day is now. Sorry to tell you, BUT that thread was severed for the last time. No strings attached. Obama is what we need.

  • awesomeron
    Nov. 5, 2008 1:37 p.m.

    We will always argue over why Obama won. I would much rather argue over Why He Lost, but such is not the case.

    I do not accept the result.

    I had a very liberal teacher a the Business College I Graduated from who felt the same way about Bush. Now I know how she felt and will E-Mail and tell her so.

    I have cancelled my Newspaper Subscription, as they Endorsed Obama, Maize Herono and Neil Abercrombie.

    Abercrombie was Obamas Mothers Teacher at UH, back in the day and socialized with her and Obamas Father, until he skipped out.

    All of these people are Pro Abortion, and Pro Partial Birth Abortion, with Maize Herono being the very Worst of the bunch.

    The Local Republication Party did not support her opponent in the last Election. Evans is way to far right for them. He did not stand a chance anyhow but still. I voted for him.

    As far as I am concerned Hawaii does not have representation in Washington and the Genocide against Hawaii's unborn continues.

    The Right to Life movement in Hawaii is on Life Support.


  • Re: what is the use | 1:12 p.m
    Nov. 5, 2008 1:41 p.m.

    "as a college student i am now wondering, What is the use for higher education? When the more money i make the more money i lose, why not settle for a lesser paying job in a lower tax bracket when my income is going to come out the same"

    As a college student, you might consider a math class. Keeping 70% of 100,000 is a lot better than 90% of $20,000.

  • SimonB
    Nov. 5, 2008 1:41 p.m.

    Hilarious. Those of you commenting on African-Americans willingness to vote for Obama, when we all know that >90% of Mormons voted for Romney in the Primaries--because he is Mormon.

    Pot? meet Kettle.

    No Crypto-Theocracy for another 4 years at least...

  • dear college student...
    Nov. 5, 2008 1:42 p.m.

    Well then, "what is the use", you didn't pay attention in class enough. When you get a chance, have someone explain to you how the tax system works. I am in that upper tax bracket, and the change will mean according to my tax guy a total of $773 more a year in taxes. I think I will survive just fine. And I will keep on trying to earn even more.

  • to Obama wins, America loses
    Nov. 5, 2008 1:50 p.m.

    "America loses" what are you saying!!! do you think??? AMERICA HAVE VOTED!!!! FOR OBAMA...FOR HOPE!!!

    Go to Walmart, walk to the redbox, rent a movie...enjoy!!! Obam is YOUR PRESIDENT!!!

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 5, 2008 1:52 p.m.

    Note to Laura 6:27:
    The Democrats have been in control of the House and Senate for only TWO years, NOT four. Do your homework. The GOP had been in control of Congress for 12 years! Like where it got us? I DON'T!!!
    Are you feeling bitter because Obama won and a few more Dems were able to ride his coattails?
    Well, check this out...In North Carolina, Elizabeth Dole (who has the R by her name...start bowing down!) lost because her people decided to slam Kay Hagan for being "godless."
    Fearmongering DOES NOT WORK!!! It's time for real change. It's time to not have to worry if you're going to lose your job and see it outsourced elsewhere. It's time for the troops to come home from wars that were based on an absolute LIE!
    Peace and prosperity can actually coexist. With the Dems running the show now, we have a REAL chance to see that happen.

  • Odekirk
    Nov. 5, 2008 1:57 p.m.

    We will probably see another 9-11 on his watch. The Americans who voted for Obama made the terrorist day.

  • To Utahns at large
    Nov. 5, 2008 1:58 p.m.

    Ever since my company transferred me to UT, every time I open my mouth about the bad weather, the one-sided politics, or even just to say that the inversion is particlarly bad today, someone invariably tells me "well that's how it is here and if you don't like it you can just move!"

    Well. It's MY turn. The country at large is sick of the greed of Wall St and capitalism. The country at large is sick of Republicans deregulating everything so it can be cheated. The country at large is sick of promises by the right to protect us from terrorists in Afganistan by invading Iraq. The country at large is sick of Republicans that don't act like Republicans. The country at large is sick of the class distinctions. So we voted in a Democrat.

    Guess what UT? If you don't like it, then MOVE!

  • Re: Laura
    Nov. 5, 2008 1:58 p.m.

    Better go back and re-read your pocketbook constitution. Bush & Co have done more to thwart the constitution than any government in memory. Warrantless wiretapping, lies, coverups, ill-conceived wars, torture, katrina, suspending habeas corpus. Shall I go on?

    Death grip by liberals? Are you kidding me They Senate majority has been the past two years, just to get the facts straight which you seem unable to do.

    Conservatives have had the grip on the house and Senate since '94 until two years ago.

    So, yeah, I think things are going to be A LOT better in the next four years. They can't get any worse. How's that 401K of yours doing, Laura?

  • EVIL PEOPLE
    Nov. 5, 2008 1:59 p.m.

    What a EVIL bunch of people! I mean to say, that you guys on here have to be of the WORST and the MOST MEAN and EVIL Group of people that I have EVER SEEN post on any blog. GEEEZZZZ!

    Obama won because McCain lost....DUH!

  • disguted
    Nov. 5, 2008 2:01 p.m.

    I am so digusted by the ignorant comments on this board. Utahns are truely showing their ignorance and acceptance of the world. Truly disgusting. Utah...GROW UP and join the 21st Century.

  • I'm Curious...
    Nov. 5, 2008 2:01 p.m.

    I wonder how many of you Obama haters were the same people admonishing BYU students to respect the office of the Executive Branch when Cheney spoke there, yet you have no problem bashing on the new President-elect when he comes from the party you don't agree with. Oh well, I am proud to be an Obama supporter. This is a great day for America!

  • Obama won't fix anything!
    Nov. 5, 2008 2:01 p.m.

    Let's see...

    He can't fix the surge becuase it is working. He can only break it.

    He can't fix the economy because it was OK before the mortgage crisis and he actually influenced Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to make things worse.

    He will make the economy worse by raising taxes.

    All I can say is Stupid Should Hurt, the American people were stupid because they voted out of ignorance, and now everyone will hurt.

    The Republican Party doesn't need to change a lot of things. They do need to make some adjustments but the liberal administration and congress will be the biggest factor in bringing the Republican party back because they are going to screw things up.

  • question
    Nov. 5, 2008 2:02 p.m.

    Did utah go for Obama or McCain, reading these blogs I can't tell, ha. And when did Kermit sing buffalo springfield? And wasn't that song a war protest? Anyways, it'll take time for some people to cope with this election, but Obama isn't socialist, people were just frightened into believeing that by the opposing party. Anywho, no matter who got elected we still had alot of work to do, and it won't be over quick. Oh, and one of the first posts said the US was the first country to fully outlaw slavery? Do some research bub. And a note in Iraq. If we were going to eliminate the terrorist ideals from Mesopotamia, guess how long we would have to stay-FOREVER. We'd also have to basically dominate the entire rregion, which, aside from being impossible, would ultimately create a golbal conflict to make WWII look like a fight at recess. It doesn't matter if we pull out tomorrow or in ten years, as soon as we do, Iraq qill plunge into chaos, it has done so its entire history.

  • Pure Hype
    Nov. 5, 2008 2:04 p.m.

    This election was supposed to be a ground breaking, record setting event. The fact is, in 2004 Bush had 62 mill. votes to Kerry 59 mill. for a total of 121,000,000 voters. This year it is Obama 63 mill. to McCain 56 mill for a total of 119,000,000 The 2004 election actually had 2 mill more voters. So, was this all just media hype saying that this was some special year for voting? Looks like 2 mill voters just stayed home and the ACORN efforts really had no affect.

  • but
    Nov. 5, 2008 2:14 p.m.

    who beliefs in the principle of being obeying kings and magistrates..we see who really walks the walk!

  • Marxist
    Nov. 5, 2008 2:17 p.m.

    The United States can know proudly join Communism and Fascism as a follower of Karl Marx.

  • Marc
    Nov. 5, 2008 2:23 p.m.

    Obama won simply because he was the better presidential candidate, although it is exciting that in this nation's cultural development, we finally have a minority as president!!!

  • Cowboy
    Nov. 5, 2008 2:24 p.m.

    "A Parable 1 | 5:54 a.m. Nov. 5, 2008
    Evil Rich Person had an asset he was considering selling for a profit. His plan was to sell for a profit, pay a modest tax, and re-invest in another asset. He expected the new asset to produce income from which he would pay another modest tax and maybe, sometime in the future sell for more profit and pay another modest tax.
    The nation elected a president who did not believe in modest taxes for Evil Rich Persons. He raised them, hoping to gain enough money to pay those people who elected him. He called his Secretary of the Treasury and asked if Evil Rich Person had paid his increased taxes on the profit he would make on the sale of his asset. The Secretary of Treasury said that Evil Rich Person had not paid the tax because he determined that he would be better off keeping is asset and avoid paying the tax. We are worse off than we were with a modest tax."

    Oh good master, if thou would impart but more of thy wisdom.

  • Sad
    Nov. 5, 2008 2:25 p.m.

    I just hope everyone is pleased with mediocrity, as that is what his socialost policies will produce.

  • To Dana:
    Nov. 5, 2008 2:31 p.m.

    You say you are ashamed to be an American today? Are you also ashamed to be a bigot? Probably not.

    Since you are such an expert on abortion, pray tell. Why didn't Bush with his Republican congress and Republican Supreme Court overturn Roe during the 2000-2006 period? What will Obama do that will make it worse?

    You have all the right rhetoric but no answers yourself! Maybe you should run on the Republican ticket in four years. McCain will be too old by then anyway, and you fit the mold perfectly!

  • AMERICA HATERS!!!
    Nov. 5, 2008 2:36 p.m.

    You anti-president, anti-democracy ranters are American haters! We, the American people, have RESOUNDINGLY spoken! You, who are cancerous, rankerous, and anti-democracy are THE haters of America, the sacred Constitution and Democracy. You spew lies and try to undermine the foundations of a democratically elected government! YOU ARE MORE INSIDIOUS THAN TERRORISTS, BECAUSE YOU UNDERMINE FROM WITHIN!! IF YOU DON'T LIKE DEMOCRACY, MOVE OUT OF THE U.S!

    (Wow, sounds just like you last week. Except the fact is, the American people have democratically and resoundingly elected a government that refuses to play the "fear and hatred" card. If you don't like it, you ARE free to criticize. And I will NOT call you anti-American for opposing the will of the rest of America. No, I will readily defend your right to rant and spew hatred. I wish you wouldn't, but that's your right. See, that's what democracy--and truly loving and living the Constitution--is all about. Welcome BACK to the REAL America, my friends.)

  • Observer
    Nov. 5, 2008 2:40 p.m.

    A great day for America. A showing that we're progressing, looking past race to issues. That we're maturing as a society and deciding that we want our nation to be responsible in the world. That we cherish education, thoughtfulness, compassion, and unification, above hate, racism, the worship of stupidity, devisive politics, and war for profit.

  • Socialism?
    Nov. 5, 2008 2:40 p.m.

    I am curious what the prevailing notions of socialism are amongst those who claim Obama is a socialist. I know of no policies where he supports government controlling the production and distribution of goods and services. Yes he has tax policies, republicans do to. All conventional wisdom tells us that there are two quick paths to dictatorship and communism - one is pure socialims, the other is unfettered capitalism. What Obama is calling for is market regulations. Welfare polcies already exist, he wants to refine those policies, and overall improve effective government. The most overt form of "wealth redistribution" that I have ever witnessed came six months ago under the Bush administration under the guise of "stimulus package". None of the prescient "conservatives" called foul on that public paycheck. Debate is the heart of American politics, intelligent debate is the soul of the matter. There are legitmate reasons someone could oppose Obama, he is not perfect but lets get the facts straight and have an effective exchange. Quick tip, anything promulgated by Fox news, Glenn Beck, MSNBC, Chris Mathews, Keith Oberman, Rachel Madows, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, is strictly partisan hype, and factually suspect.

  • disappointing
    Nov. 5, 2008 2:42 p.m.

    I've got to say that when I got on here to read, I thought I'd see a lot of positive things and a willingness to move on and work together like I saw from McCain last night, but that definitely isn't the case.

    Its sad to see people argue so much and so much hatred. So what if blacks voted for Obama! Can you blame them!!! I voted for Romney in the primary, and not just because he is Mormon (OLYMPICS), but I don't think thats the reason that black people voted for Obama.

    I look forward to seeing what the democrats can do in the next 4 years. I hope they do well, but if not then in 4 years we will have some more change. I echo the sentiment that I hope they just don't use Bush as an excuse for any problem that arises in the next 4 years. The greedy american people are the ones who caused this economic downturn not Bush. Don't blame this countries problems on its leadership. Look at yourself first!!! How many of you have have uneccessary debt?!!

    FYI, I am very Mormon, I go to BYU and I am pretty conservative.

  • turn off rush and sean
    Nov. 5, 2008 2:43 p.m.

    many of you guys are just puppets (or parrots) of these two toxic men ... their fat paychecks are based on how much they lie ... if you want to make america better, let's get to work ... we can do that no matter who the president is!

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 5, 2008 2:47 p.m.

    I would like to join the chorus of complaints about socialist policies but I have to go to the mailbox and get my "social" security check....whoops!

  • Jenny
    Nov. 5, 2008 2:50 p.m.

    I am truly sorry for everyone who voted for Obama. He is not qualified to be president. He was not born a US citizen! If he was he'd show us a legal birth certificate!!! And his changes with socialized medicine and all the promises he has given will come will great expense to the American people.

    Yes, there will be a change in America. Heaven help us. The next four years will be a great disaster!!

  • to Sad 2:25
    Nov. 5, 2008 2:51 p.m.

    What an IGNORANT you are!!! WE the middle class will just be erased with more Bushines and McCainess policies!!!
    I will keep working hard to pay my bills, I will keep going to school, I will keep paying my helthcare plan, BUT Im glad that somebody like Barak Obama will work to make my life better, NOT FOR FREE, THIS IS NOT CUBA, THIS IS AMERICA!!!
    Im sure you are not happy, because we are not going to spend millions in war, deregulate helthcare companies, talking with our enemies to find the solution to our problems in our world, no US world. sad because we are not drlling enough to kill wildlife and help to burn this world for our childrens, Get a life looser!!! It is time to be ONE AS COUNTRY AND HELP EACH OTHER!!!

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 5, 2008 2:52 p.m.

    Obama won because people from all groups went against stereotypes and voted for him, because he is awesome.

  • Its cool, we've paid our dues...
    Nov. 5, 2008 3:02 p.m.

    We have had to deal with your war criminal administration for eight years, now you can deal with our middle class loving, equality promoting President for awhile :) Your grandchildren will thank us for it :)

  • Cato
    Nov. 5, 2008 3:10 p.m.

    For all those saying that the Constitution is "Hanging By a Thread." THe Constitution is maybe being threatened. IT isn't hanging by a thread. It is working perfectly and the election is proof of this. Vox Populi elected President Barack Obama, and while I may not like it, I am going to support him. Please, let's wait until we see them trying to take our guns, limit our speech, control our media, remove our right to worship or establish a state religion, remove our right to petition, or to clearly threaten the rights of state sovereignty to say that "The Constitution is Hanging By a Thread."

  • Downside Up
    Nov. 5, 2008 3:12 p.m.

    Congrats to President-Elect Barack Obama...and good luck...he'll sure need it. This is truly a great and historic event for America and his race as well.

    He will soon see that most of the issues, challenges and opportunities he will encounter are indeed color blind. One thing for sure...the days of voting "Present" are over.

    In college I recall studying a book called "The Peculiar Institution". Essentially the book contrasts America's history, and the evolution of freedom in contrast to tolerance of slavery at the same time, during the country's early years. Obama's victory sure puts the conclusions of that book in a new light.

    Now if we can just find a way to keep Pelosi and Reid from polluting his thought processes.

  • Here is a novel idea
    Nov. 5, 2008 3:16 p.m.

    How about people take a step back and look as to why Obama won.
    I will give you a one word hint: Palin.
    McCain lost A TON of swing voters with this decision.
    First, because it was a low ball move to try and get all the democrats that wanted hillary away from voting Obama.
    Second, because it showed a lack of intelligence in that a huge arguement against Obama was experience... LOOK AT YOUR VP SELECTION!!!
    Third, people realize that McCain is one hearbeat away from death... and Palin is one heartbeat away from the presidency...
    With how split people were among the big issues, something as simple as this (well not really that simple seeing as it showed complete foolishness by the Elephants and McCain) swung those people to vote for Obama.

    And one last thing..... BUSH was part of what party again???
    I rest my case

  • Don't bash Bush
    Nov. 5, 2008 3:17 p.m.


    "War criminal administration"? Really?

    How have the anti-terrorist policies Bush put in place actually hurt you? Hmmm? They haven't.

    I, for one, am thankful for Bush and his response to the terrorist attacks.

    I guess you were stoned during 9-11.

  • Can't say it any better
    Nov. 5, 2008 3:18 p.m.

    Prov. 29: 2
    When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.

  • Sorry, don't count me in
    Nov. 5, 2008 3:19 p.m.



    Nobama - still not ready to lead.

  • A WHITE man in UTAH!!!
    Nov. 5, 2008 3:20 p.m.

    YAY to Obama!!! Its about time that this Country see some GOOD change! We will see that this Great Man will bring this country back to what is should be!!!!

    Congrats to you Mr. President Obama!!

  • you just don't get
    Nov. 5, 2008 3:21 p.m.

    the comments on this thread illustrate that those on the far right fringe of the republican party still do not get it. hopefully those less extreme within the republican party got the message last night that they need to no longer allow these people to have so much control over the republican party, it is time for them to go back to the fringe. "They just don't get it and they are vaguely proud of that. "

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 5, 2008 3:22 p.m.

    Oh, jenny. Tsk tsk. "not a legal citizen" "will take money from rich people to give to poor people" "is the anti-christ"

    Do you know that every. single. one. of your Obama bashes were demonstrated false?

    Just because a group of men, trying to control your emotions, tells you something over and over again, doens't make it true.

    It makes you silly, and them evil.

    Obama is a good man. He is a smart man. He is a terrific leader. You'll see.

  • Thinkin' Man
    Nov. 5, 2008 3:22 p.m.

    Is he a uniter? To be "my leader," Obama would have to do the following:
    Cut the size of the Federal government--that means fewer Federal employees and fewer programs.
    Renounce socialism.
    Lower taxes on all Americans and American businesses.
    Cut medical costs by limiting malpractice awards, reducing mandated paperwork and tests, and cutting out middlemen and administrators.
    Cut the bloated costs of Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security.
    Reopen backcountry roads closed in the past 16 years.
    Support domestic oil and gas drilling, including offshore and in ANWR.
    Never do something in the name of global warming without rock-solid scientific support.
    Support development of nuclear power and opening of Yucca Mountain repository based on sound science.
    Oppose abortion on demand.
    Support ideas that strengthen the traditional family.
    Maintain a strong military.
    Do what's right for America, not just what is internationally popular.
    Renounce the Jeremiah Wrights of the world.

    I may not support his policies, but I will certainly honor and defend the man in the office of President.

  • gagmewithaspoon
    Nov. 5, 2008 3:25 p.m.

    One of the things he said last night in his victory speech: "I will listen to you, especially when we disagree" Let's see him put his money where his mouth is...is he going to listen when we folks who don't believe in murdering innocent babies tell him how wrong he is? I like some of the democratic views but I'm mostly republican and I could simply NEVER vote for someone who believes in murdering babies, even if I believed in other stuff he was saying. What a joke...if people think the nation is in trouble now, just wait for the mighty change for the worse. It's going to be a long 4 years!

  • Clueless
    Nov. 5, 2008 3:25 p.m.

    UT is so clueless, spouting the words Marxism and socailism like they even know what they are talking about.

    Guess what? The Public School system is a socialist concept! True capitalism would privitize schools and allow the rich to get ahead from pre-school on.

    Ever heard of child labor laws? Karl Marx preached in favor of these! True capitalism would let anyone work, regardless of the social consequences.

    Guess what zoobies? Getting married at BYU when you are a freshman and taking out a pell grant is also a form of socialism. So is getting pregnant in your sophomore year, junior year, and senior year and having all those babies on Medicaid (socialized medicine) because you don't have a job with insurance benefits.

    I make almost double the median salary in UT and I'm ok paying more in taxes to help my fellow man. Seems to me that the root fear of your socialism is your own greed. After all, it's a lot harder to keep up with the Jonses when Uncle Sam gives some of that money you want to waste on a new boat to someone else so they can put food on their table.

  • Choice ...
    Nov. 5, 2008 3:30 p.m.

    Hmmm, what'll I pick? Socialism for rich guys, or socialism for the middle class? McCain or Obama - the old face or the young face of the EXACT SAME GUY?

    I miss the days when one of the parties stood for real conservative values - low taxes, balanced budget, limited government, avoiding foreign entanglements, and staying out of people's private business and lives. Republicans or democrats? Not a pitcher of spit worth of difference.

  • Re Thinkin Man
    Nov. 5, 2008 3:31 p.m.

    That list is both long and ridiculous. To be a uniter he has to lower taxes? OK, fine. So to lower taxes we lower services to pay for taxes. Don't expect anyone to repave your road for potholes, snowplow, and you can start educating your own kids home-school style. You can also cancel your SS checks and we'll end that silly war while we are at it.

    Do you get the point? This is YOUR list. It is not mine. It is not most American's.

  • Re gagmewithaspoon
    Nov. 5, 2008 3:33 p.m.

    OK, fine. You are against abortion. Just what exactly would you like Obama to do about it? The same thing your Republican congress and President did about it from 2000-2006? He can provide lip service with no action. No problem.

  • NoMISTAKESpleez
    Nov. 5, 2008 3:34 p.m.

    I hope the president-elect doesn't misread the win. He won because W. lied us into a war and ruined our economy. I look for Obama to become more republican just like Clinton did.

  • Gee
    Nov. 5, 2008 3:39 p.m.

    We yell and scream and otherwise celebrate that a "Black Man" has won the presidency yet we fail to judge a man by the "content of his heart and not his color." The very possible pending failure of his presidency may put the gains of "Blacks" many years back. How truly sad that we really don't know the content of his heart. How truly sad for America. I lover Her dearly and always will, but I am afraid for her future.

  • To Sad
    Nov. 5, 2008 3:41 p.m.

    I'm not the one you were talking to, but I just have to comment on your mispelling and very poor grammar. That is sad.

  • Yeah for Clueless!!
    Nov. 5, 2008 3:47 p.m.

    I couldn't agree more!! Well said!

    I feel sorry for those extreme right wingers who are sooooooooooo stubborn in their wacked out beliefs that they are failing to appreciate what an incredible time this is in the history of our nation.

  • Cato
    Nov. 5, 2008 3:49 p.m.

    Let's get one thing straight. We ARE ALL AMERICANS!
    I love history, the only time in the history of the nation that such hateful rhetoric has been spouted, one about the other, one feeling the other is stupid, the other evil, is the CIVIL WAR! Have we truly progressed much when we can't even speak to each other with respect and Civility. We may disagree but attacking one antoher, and then saying that we abhor attacking one antoher is the epitome of Hypocrisy. That goes for both sides of the Party. Vox Populi has spoken, now let's rally aroudn the people and the constitution and the man whom the people have elected.

    Don't let division lead to another Civil War, because it is guaranteed that it will be far more destructive and deadly than any other war known to man.

  • SNL summed it up
    Nov. 5, 2008 3:49 p.m.

    Bush: "when you hear the words McCain think of this face"
    McCain probably could have had the best campaign ever, but the fact that his fellow republicans (90% of the time McCain voted with bush mind you) did such a horrible job while in "control" he was doomed from the start.
    Also, to both sides, 4 years IS NOT A LONG TIME! Super left people: Obama cant fix everything in that span, sorry he just cant
    Super right people: Obama cant blow everything in that span, sorry he just cant

  • Just the facts
    Nov. 5, 2008 3:49 p.m.

    Bush's adm;inistration wasn't criminal
    Obama's administration won't be socialist
    Not everyone posting anti Obama remarks is from Utah.
    46% of the country didn't want Obama for president or 56,280,519 people. (cnn.com)
    African American's were racially motivated. 90+% voted Obama where statistically if people weren't racially motivated it should have been closer to 50-60%.
    Obama has little to no experience. Junior senator, but is charismatic.
    Palin has little experience. PTA/Gov. Alaska
    McCain is a senior senator with conserative views.
    None of the choices America was given were great or "Awesome".
    America is a great country because each person has the right to rant/vent/etc.
    American is a great country because each person can take part in the election process.
    Obama is the president elect of the US.
    America need the support and prayers of everyone to regain it's economic strength.
    Coporate greed not Bush, not Obama, not McCain is the blame for the decline of Wall Street,Housing,Banking
    Al Quida & terrorism is a real threat not just to the US but the world. They do not want to be our friend. They want to destroy our way of life.
    People help eachother without the need for government intervention.
    GOD BLESS AMERICA!

  • Change?
    Nov. 5, 2008 3:51 p.m.

    Can someone please tell me, in two sentences or less, the REAL DIFFERENCES between Obama's politics and Socialism? I'm listening. Because when confronted with this question, himself, he answered, "Who decided that selfishness is a virtue?" KILLS ME! He considers someone who chooses to keep something they earned to be selfish! On that note, I seem to remember $4.2 million dollars entering AND REMAINING in Mr. Obama's pockets just last year. SELFISH!

  • By the way...
    Nov. 5, 2008 3:55 p.m.

    When does the movie "Hussein" come out? We've already covered "W."

  • Welcome
    Nov. 5, 2008 4:05 p.m.

    to a socialistic society!

  • Re: Thinkin' Man
    Nov. 5, 2008 4:06 p.m.

    That will be the day when those items are a politician's agenda. Instead we will spend billions on ending global poverty and and on equalizing the wealth in our nation.

  • Re Change?
    Nov. 5, 2008 4:07 p.m.

    "He [Obama] considers someone who chooses to keep something they earned to be selfish!"

    Guess what? So does the Lord. Ever heard of the United Order? We tried to live it once, but had to give up on the law of 100% consecration to live the lesser law of tithing (10%). Based on your comment, I'd say we're still not ready to try again.

  • In my experience
    Nov. 5, 2008 4:08 p.m.

    liberals are tolerant of only those who are exactly like themselves. Any differences are viewed with a snobbish contempt. So here we go...

  • Dang it
    Nov. 5, 2008 4:09 p.m.

    I was really hoping to see Tina Fey as Palin the president in two years... Dang it all

  • Expatriate of Zion
    Nov. 5, 2008 4:11 p.m.

    A generation ago, another young president posed a challenge. Perhaps our largesse has made us deaf to our conscience. As cititzens, we have entitlements. That is the fear that most conservatives brace for ("lazy"). On both sides of the political fence we have lost sight of our responsibilities. Some claim the new administration will usher in neo-socialism and that redistirbution of wealth will destroy creativity and initiative. Wealth has been re-distributed under the current administration (the gap between the poor and the wealthy has been widening). The only difference is assignment of what is diminished. For eight years hope has been lost. Now it is initiative that will bear the burden though I doubt this will be the case.

    If there are successful LDS people complaining about the outcome, I suggest you re-visit the doctrines of the Church and realize your labors and attendant blessings are not intended to engage in indulgent behavior. To the poor of the Faith, remember the parable of the Talents. Goes both ways

  • Someone else's shoes
    Nov. 5, 2008 4:12 p.m.

    It's interesting to read that the Obama supporters are NOW saying it's time for the McCain/Republican supporters to accept "President-Elect Obama" and move on, "grow up", "work together", and "be respectful". Is this the same group who had an absolute hatred toward President Bush and would not recognize him as their president?

  • RE:Change? | 3:51 p.m
    Nov. 5, 2008 4:21 p.m.

    "Can someone please tell me, in two sentences or less, the REAL DIFFERENCES between Obama's politics and Socialism?"

    Same as the lack of differences between McCain's policies and socialism. If there are income or property taxes, it's a socialist government. We've had one since the Washington administration.

    Sorry, had to use a third sentence.

  • RE: By the way... | 3:55 p.m.
    Nov. 5, 2008 4:24 p.m.

    "When does the movie "Hussein" come out? We've already covered "W.""

    If the timing is the same, it will be at the end of his second term.

  • Canadian Lady
    Nov. 5, 2008 4:36 p.m.

    I am pleased that Obama win period. He stands for the new age for this generation. I am LDS and hope that President Monson gives his regards to the new President of The United States. If this is the true gospel and that we believe that everyone is equal. its about time that our church to look for leaders not for colour of their skin but for love and committment to the gospel and not because they live in Idaho or Utah or seven generation mormon.

  • To Gee
    Nov. 5, 2008 4:40 p.m.

    Your comments seem to show a complete unawareness of the whole election. Many of the analysts are already commenting the racial implications of this election, though great, are subtle. Meaning, race was not the pivotal factor in Obama's winning. Dissatisfaction with the Republicans for the last eight years on everything to the war and the economy were likely the largest. Second was Obama's charisma and ability to connect emotionally with people from many different backgrounds. This is true even for those who disagree with him. Third was a superfunded and aggressive campaign. Fourth was a poorly run flash in the pan campaign from McCain - with short term gain, long term deficit publicity stunts liking appointing Sarah Palin as VP.

    As for your vague imagery to Martin Luther Kings "I Have a dream" speech, who in politics do you know the "content of their heart"? We never truly know what is internal to them, but you got it all wrong. MLK did not say individuals should be judged by the "content of their heart", but "content of their character". Obama's display of character has been impeccable compared to that of his fellow politicians, now as well as the past.

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 5, 2008 4:42 p.m.

    Re: My fellow Republicans...LOL I can't stop laughin at your comment what? "our candidates for varies PUBIC office"??? LOL learn how to spell first and then preach to your equally smart "fellow Republicans"

  • wrz
    Nov. 5, 2008 4:42 p.m.


    to Obama wins, America loses: "'America loses' what are you saying!!! do you think??? AMERICA HAVE VOTED!!!! FOR OBAMA...FOR HOPE!!!"

    How anyone could vote for mere "HOPE" is very puzzling.

    "Go to Walmart, walk to the redbox, rent a movie...enjoy!!! Obama is YOUR PRESIDENT!!!"

    Quit saying that. I get nauseated each time.

  • #1 Liberal
    Nov. 5, 2008 4:49 p.m.

    Please, Please, Please promise me that the people of the Redest state in the nation will stay there and not move to California....ever. I love you all, but change is coming and with Demecrats running everything now, there is no stopping the change. Tie up your boots because it is going to be a wild ride...yeh President Obama. It has a good ring to it.

  • re Jenny
    Nov. 5, 2008 4:51 p.m.

    not a us born citizen? Wow, I think if that were true, the rep party would have been all over that, enough to make it true or false. you realy think someone would run who was born somewhere else? Oh, wait, you probably didn't realize that hawaii has become a state.

  • Cobb
    Nov. 5, 2008 4:51 p.m.

    To all those who still aren't clear on this. The LDS Church doesn't openly support any candidate or political party because if they did the Church could lose it's tax exempt status. The has always taught the principles of self-reliance. Ezra Taft Benson called socialism evil. How can we expect to learn from our failures if the government won't let us fail. How are we to learn the value of hard work to succeed if no one has to work hard because the government just gives it all to us. How is it correct and just to take wealth from those who earned to give it to those who haven't. Robin Hood robbed from the rich to give to the poor but he still stole (Thou shalt not steal). I say take welfare away and watch how quickly unemployment falls. Amazing how hard someone will WORK when their survival depends on it.

    One more thing. Voting against Obama doesn't make one a racist. I voted against him because he's a socialist and as world history has taught us socialism represses freedom and eventually always fails. I'm white but my wife is Black/Latin (Mulatto) so no one can say I'm racist.

  • No, Seriously....
    Nov. 5, 2008 4:54 p.m.

    Is Obama even a United States citizen?

    "What?!", many of you cry.

    No, seriously. Is he even a U.S. citizen? There are conflicting reports of him being born in Hawaii and a reporter or 2 who say his grandmother claims he was born in Kenya. Kenya hospital records previously available to reporters are now sealed.

    Why?

    If he was born in the US, where's his birth certificate? Why hasn't he produced one? Why are his college records sealed? Did he receive federal government money as a foreign student?

    What?, it's impossible that someone who is handsome, wealthy, a polished speaker and has a picture-perfect family can be a fraud?

    Think again.

    If he's an American citizen why doesn't he step forward and PROVE it?

    Maybe he is, but PROVE it.

  • For Jasmine at 1:39AM
    Nov. 5, 2008 5:03 p.m.

    So, Jasmine, why did YOU vote for Obama?

    What SPECIFICALLY has he done?, what SPECIFIC, LOGICAL plan did he expound that will move America forward in a positive direction?

    Leave Iraq immediatley and throw the country into chaos?

    Raise taxes on "only" 5% and still manage to fund the onslaught of government "take care of me now" programs?

    Build an entire national industry on chasing phantom global warning fears?

    Your move...

    Notice I said "logical"

  • PJ
    Nov. 5, 2008 5:04 p.m.


    Odekirk: "We will probably see another 9-11 on his watch. The Americans who voted for Obama made the terrorist day."

    No more terrorist attacks. Terrorists have their man in the White House now. They will begin their attack from within. Slow and gentle.

  • Typical White Person
    Nov. 5, 2008 5:06 p.m.

    We've seen our last white-guy president.

  • Talk Won't Cut It
    Nov. 5, 2008 5:13 p.m.

    I agree that Obama is a brilliant, EXTREMELY talented speaker but since when can smooth words alone keep a country safe?

    Since when can smooth words alone keep your IRA steadily growing?

    America allowed itself to be seduced by the mantra of "change" but failed to see what the consequnces of that change will be.

    According to Obama himself: a weaker military (does that make sense in a time of war?...you remember the war, don't you), continued abortion on demand, TAKING money out of your pocket and giving it to someone else withour your consent (that would be "redistributing wealth" to you Obama-ites), a massively bigger government and on and on and on...

  • KJB
    Nov. 5, 2008 5:19 p.m.

    MYTH: Conservative are rugged and independent people who tolerate no guff and tell the plainspoken truth.

    FACT: Based on the postings here, conservatives are quivering crybabies who blame others for their misfortunes when not name-calling or telling outright lies ("Obama's a socialist! No, a communist! It's the liberal media's fault! He wasn't even born in America! IT'S NOT FAIR! WAAAAH!")

    Thanks, guys. This has been enlightening.

  • wrz
    Nov. 5, 2008 5:19 p.m.


    re Jenny | 4:51 p.m.: "not a us born citizen? Wow, I think if that were true, the rep party would have been all over that, enough to make it true or false. you realy think someone would run who was born somewhere else? Oh, wait, you probably didn't realize that hawaii has become a state."

    Where's his birth certificate?

    His step father took him to Indonesia where he enrolled in school as a Muslim. To do that he had to be a citizen of Indonesia thus giving up his US citizenship. He never reinstated his US citizenship. And if he did he would be a "naturalized" citizen not a natural born citizen.

    He doesn't qualify for the office for which he has been elected.

    Will anything come of this? No. Liberal courts will throw the case out.

  • gagme with a spoon
    Nov. 5, 2008 5:22 p.m.

    abortion is a womans right. I don't know about you, but I wouldn't tell a man what to do with their bodies.

  • I Voted for McCain
    Nov. 5, 2008 5:22 p.m.

    Will I let go of my disappointment that America elected Obama instead?

    I don't know, quite honestly.

    It's hard to let go of disappointment when the biggest disappointments are still to come. What would those disappointments be? The failure of Obama to lead intelligently and courageously. Our country hangs in the balance. I'll be glad to say he did a better job than I expected. We'll see.

  • Damien
    Nov. 5, 2008 5:22 p.m.

    I bet that 12 of the first 15 US Presidents are rolling over in their graves.

  • Re: No, Seriously...
    Nov. 5, 2008 5:24 p.m.

    For the 10,000th time...

    Go to a little non-partisan site called Factcheck.org and you'll not only see a copy of Obama's birth certificate embossed with the Hawaii state seal but also a copy of Obama's birth announcement as it appeared in the Honolulu Advertiser (the local paper.) He HAS stepped forward and proven it, and your desperate attempts to ignore this doesn't change the truth. Sorry.

    Come to think of it, John McCain was born in Panama. Why aren't you demanding that he "prove" his citizenship?

  • Romney
    Nov. 5, 2008 5:25 p.m.

    I wonder if when the economic meltdown got going full bore if McCain wished he had chosen Romney as VP?

    Palin really energized the GOP in the immediate aftermath of the GOP convention but what about later on? I hoped for Romney all along....

  • 8 years
    Nov. 5, 2008 5:28 p.m.

    I give America 8 years.

    If we don't reverse the coming onslaught of "the government OWES me a bigscreen TV", etc, etc in 8 years (that would be 2 Obama presidencies) then realistically speaking there's no chance of us retunring to our former greatness.

    Our only hope is to concentrate on getting rid of immoral, selfish and cowardly Congressmen and Senators; they're the ones who really hold the power.

  • Not happy
    Nov. 5, 2008 5:34 p.m.

    First, I think it's clear that you liberals are very poor winners.

    If you wish to slap 47% of the nation in the face, taunt us, or discount us, you'll make the same mistake GW Bush made in 2004.

    Rather, why don't you consider taking the grand step of seeing why the other side thinks as it does and offering compromises.

    The alternative is more division, more gridlock and ultimately civil war. If you don't think another civil war is possible - even probable - you're very naive.

  • disappointment
    Nov. 5, 2008 5:43 p.m.

    I know all about disappointment, I remember when Bush stole the 1st and 2nd term. I was heartbroken that people would rather elect a man they want to have a beer with, than a man with intelligence, I don't want someone like me to run the country, I want someone who is a genius, like Barack. This is the best day for our country. Finally for the first time I AM PROUD OF MY COUNTRY. Yes the first time.

  • Vern
    Nov. 5, 2008 5:44 p.m.

    I hope he's a good president. . .

  • compromise?
    Nov. 5, 2008 5:46 p.m.

    Compromise? Really? Are you serious? When did you conservatives compromise? When you took away our right to privacy or outsourced our jobs.

  • Disgruntled
    Nov. 5, 2008 5:50 p.m.

    He's not my president-elect!

  • I'M the second poster
    Nov. 5, 2008 5:50 p.m.

    I wrote the second post, the one about why Obama won at the very beginning of this thread.

    I'm supposedly a racist because it frustrates me that a HUGE majority of blacks voted for Obama simply because of the color of his skin? Hmmm, I thought I was the only racist.

    I have nooo problem at all if a black man votes for a black man if the reason he votes for him is because he honestly believes the candidate's game plan is the best to lead America to success. If you're a black man or woman who REALLY studied what he stood for and why, etc then congratulations, you're not racist but chose to get informed as best as you could. However, I've seen and heard many, many interviews of black Americans in which they flat-out admitted they were going to vote for him simply because of his skin color.

    In case you didn't know it, that's racism too.

    And....if you'll go read my original post, I said that the MAIN reason Obama won is because he fooled the majority of Americans (mainstream media assisted) with the lack of credible plans and policies, not because of racism.

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 5, 2008 5:56 p.m.

    What are the odds that the mainstream media will ever seriously criticize Obama and the Democrat-controlled Congress and Senate for any mistakes they'll make?

    (unless you're foolish enough to believe they're all too smart to ever make any mistakes)

    I think that the answer to that question (and I seriously don't know the answer) will likely mirror the future of this country. If we are an honest people, we'll speak honestly, ie, expose and discuss errors when they're made. However, if we are dishonest and stick our collective heads in the sand and pretend "the king has clothes", we're screwed.

    Scott Card, where are you now?

  • not just 12
    Nov. 5, 2008 6:14 p.m.

    Damien | 5:22 p.m. Nov. 5, 2008:
    "I bet that 12 of the first 15 US Presidents are rolling over in their graves. "

    I'm sure Ronald Reagan is spinning in his.

  • Utah Jazz
    Nov. 5, 2008 6:18 p.m.

    Utah overwhelmingly voted for McCain unlike other states around it. It looks like the most white state has a problem with a black candidate

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 5, 2008 6:22 p.m.

    No seriously it is hard to take anything you say serious when you spot the same stupid lies over and over. Please get over yourself.

  • Gloria Steinhauer
    Nov. 5, 2008 6:27 p.m.

    I am glad that we now have a President elect. President Obama will do just fine - if we get behind him and support him. To those who are angry and full of hatred because he won, there are words from a Beatles song that goes . . . "I'm so sory, Uncle Albert!"

    Deal with it! The gavel has gone down. You'll have your chance again in 2012. If he blows it.

  • JahMessinJah
    Nov. 5, 2008 6:36 p.m.

    I think that now that we have a black President it is time to see a black man sitting on the stand during the Mormon General Conference. With all due respect. It's time for Black Apostleship in the Mormon church.

  • To Second Poster
    Nov. 5, 2008 6:54 p.m.

    It might be that black people, who typically live in lesser socioeconomic circumstances, are democratic regardless of color. It might also be that a man was so powerful in his words and vision that he could motivate the majority of the country to vote for him, and he is african-american.

    This just proves how outstanding he is as a candidate, because this country (including racists like you) would never have voted for him otherwise.

    Embrace this; a black man was just elected president, and he, more than any other, deserves this opportunity.

    Join him or simply makes things worse- you decide.

  • Voice of Reason
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:07 p.m.

    Three comments:

    Bill Clinton and Bob Bennett also promised change if they won. Nothing changed.

    Obama can either abandon much of his liberal constituency and accomplish something with Congress or he can stick with the left wingers who provided the margin of difference in the vote and accomplish nothing, as in Clinton's first term.

    The Republicans better start to divorce themselves from the big government/spending move or they will go the way of the Whigs.

  • I'm
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:25 p.m.

    wondering will there ever be a black governor of Utah? Now I see why.

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:25 p.m.

    so many argue and are so bitter....well like someone once told me in 2004.... if you don't like it... leave.

  • Cook em up & eat em up
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:31 p.m.

    Well folks , they way things are goen nowadays, our enemies will probably nukes us off the face of the planet eventually. Americans have turned into a bunch of wennie willies.

  • Too much time
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:36 p.m.

    There's almost as many posts on this blog as people from Utah who voted for Obama. Saving the world one lifeless blog at a time.

  • Randall Bogart
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:37 p.m.

    Whatever you think about President-elect Obama's views and politics, this is truly an historic event and is significant in many ways. In short, as a country, we have learned that anyone, regardless of color or race, can achieve what he or she puts her mind to. This may be the most significant change that will come out of this.

    As a young child, I remember seeing the footage of the dogs attacking peaceful protestors in Birmingham. The last lynching occurred just a few blocks from one of my missionary apartments. The pain from those experiences is still real and tangible to this day.

    As I watched Obama's celebration last night, I was struck by how the crowd resembled America. It thrilled me to see the flags and people of all races gathered together in celebration.

    Whether we agree with President-elect Obama or not, he is our president-elect. I intend to give him the respect and support that he deserves. I wish him well. We are in perilous times and I ask each of you to pray for him and our country. It is time for all of us to pull together.

  • momof5
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:48 p.m.

    Congratulations to President-elect Obama! I was unable to vote for him, due to his liberal political views, but I truly admire his achievements and intelligence and poise. We need a leader like Obama to unite this country so we can work together to get out of the mess we're in. My only wish would be that his political views were closer to my own. However, how thrilling to see the US elect our first black president and now that the election is won, I hope that the nation will rally around our new president and give him our support and prayers. He'll need them. McCain bowed out with good grace, and I thought President Bush's remarks were very gracious as well, especially in light of the drubbing he receives daily by the candidates and the press - deserved or not. But the night --and the next four years-- belong to Barak Obama and may God bless him as he leads this great nation.

  • Andrew
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:53 p.m.

    Wow.

    Nothing like reading what people in Utah are saying. It is really sad to see such uneducated views. Raising the banner of logical fallacies, the attacks on Obama fall well short of anything worth considering. I won't even touch the racist comments.

    I have my own reservations about Obama, but he is smarter than anyone who has posted on this board including me. It's funny to me that the same people criticizing Obama also think Palin would be a dream president.

    Obama will make mistakes, that is certain, but he will be the best thing we've had in decades. (Ronald Reagan was a good President, but I don't espouse myself to the triumphalist interpretation of the Neo-cons).

    So please, all of you, before you post a comment and embarrass yourself, get an education first. If you have a problem with Obama, please go about constructing something, rather than tearing down.

    Build something and make things better rather than sitting around complaining.

    There are many challenges ahead, and if America fails, it will not be because of Obama. It will be because many decided to sit and carp rather than working for something better.

    God Bless.

  • Obamanite
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:53 p.m.

    This is history, and very good history. All you people out there must learn now to accept your new president. he's a great man.

  • To Awesomeron
    Nov. 5, 2008 7:57 p.m.

    Cool your jets.

    Get over yourself.

    Obama is not the antichrist.

    Get a life.

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 5, 2008 8:00 p.m.

    Soldier...go and beat your M16 into plough shears
    Republicans...take down the banners and candles...the Party's over
    Lets bury war and be more socially aware of our fellow man "Love thy neighbor as thyself"
    "I have a dream"
    "He has a dream"
    and You need to follow the dream.....

  • I am amazed...
    Nov. 5, 2008 8:23 p.m.

    Wow. The maturity level of some of these post is incredible. It is too bad these sites let you post here without identifying yourself. You have to wonder if everyone would be so bold if they could be held accountable for their statements. Make outlandish claims with only web-lore as your basis "proof" only shows how badly you want to believe the worst about someone, regardless of your motives. How lovely that Utah and Idaho are now associated with the deep south. How enlightened and christian of you all.

  • wrz
    Nov. 5, 2008 8:29 p.m.

    Don't bash Bush | 3:17 p.m.: "'War criminal administration'?"

    Just watch. The Democrat Congress is, as we speak, drawing up indictment papers for Bush, Cheney, and much of Bush Administration personnel. With a Democratically appointed and approved Attorney General the witch hunt will begin.

  • Why...
    Nov. 5, 2008 8:32 p.m.

    does everyone assume these comments are from Utah residents? I post here quite often..I am an active LDS woman...and I live in VA. Have never lived in Utah, and in fact, only visited Utah for my first time almost 4 years ago. Why are there so many Utah haters here?

  • wrz
    Nov. 5, 2008 8:34 p.m.


    gagme with a spoon: "abortion is a womans right. I don't know about you, but I wouldn't tell a man what to do with their bodies."

    It's not the woman's or man's body. The issue is the third party's body... the baby.

  • Summary
    Nov. 5, 2008 8:37 p.m.

    I would have voted for McCain if he had run with the same "voice" I heard on TV last night. A humble straight talking therefore likeable super patriot. John McCain served this country as few ever have.

    However, the John McCain who ran the campaign became the personification and the epitome of ROVIAN RANTING. If John McCain had not sold his soul to ROVIAN RANTING, he would be the President-Elect of the United States of America.

    Sarah Palin will remain a footnote to the FAILED ROVE STYLE CAMPAIGN. AMERICANS DO NOT SUFFER LOSERS. In the final analysis, her selection contributed to McCain's loss.

    The AM TALK RADIO KINGPIN FAILED to deliver the goods. Corporate America paid him at least 400 million to stop Obama. The GREAT AMERICAN is equally culpable. Both of these SHILLS FOR CORPORATE AMERICA WILL CONTINUE TO SPEW THEIR VENOM. There is at least 55 million people who love to lap it up.

    Who knows what will happen during the next 4 years?

  • Foolishness
    Nov. 5, 2008 8:38 p.m.

    NO ONE is coming home from any WAR. That was nothing but a heaping crock of mouthing off with hot air just to get elected. You will all see that I'm telling the truth.

  • awesomeron
    Nov. 5, 2008 8:48 p.m.

    Lead us like the Pied Piper of Socialism. Down the Beaten Pat of more Taxes and Government Dependence. I will not be lead by this male individual.

    Until he takes office I will not pay attention to him or the media at all. I have cancelled my newspaper subscription because they supported him and several other Pro Choice Individuals both Males and Females.

    Race was apparently not much of a factor, so the moment I had hoped for in the voting booth never transpired.

    The thought of Kerry being Secretary of State is Mind Boggling. However he could be Ambassador to Duffer

    I have thought about moving to another Country becoming an illegal alien but most other countries arrest, Jail and Deport their illegals. In a couple of places they shoot them (North Koreans going into China, to provide China with Cheap Labor. The Government of China Frowns on that.

    I decided that my little island in the sea is a bout the best place the is. Until Obama starts taxing me for your heating oil.

    I wish we could either Delete or Undo Yesterday. However I woke up and it was real. The Nightmare has begun.

  • PJ
    Nov. 5, 2008 8:48 p.m.

    For only the second time in her adult life, Michelle Obama was proud of her country!

  • 90% BLACK VOTE
    Nov. 5, 2008 8:49 p.m.

    Just to be clear here, this number has been tossed around like it proves something - that blacks only voted for him because he was black. Well, that would be true if they also hadn't voted for Gore and Kerry by the same numbers. And for that fact, Democrats as a whole (black, white, latino, male, female, etc) voted for him at that rate. And no what, Republicans voted for McCain at those same levels.

    So truth is, neither Gore nor Kerry were or are black. Yet the black vote flowed at the same levels to them. No, they didn't vote for him that way because he is black. It is because 90 plus percent of blacks are Democrats, and they voted for their own parties candidate, just like they did in 2004 and 2000. Reading more into it than that either means you just don't know what your talking about (or understand stats), or that you are actually the racist and saw in that number what you wanted to.

    Bottom line, those numbers are historically in line with how blacks have always voted, in all the past elections.

  • wrz
    Nov. 5, 2008 8:59 p.m.


    Foolishness | 8:38 p.m. Nov. 5, 2008
    NO ONE is coming home from any WAR. That was nothing but a heaping crock of mouthing off with hot air just to get elected. You will all see that I'm telling the truth."

    You are absolutely right. And when the now talked-about withdrawal date of 2011 comes and goes, you will find that Al Qaeda has reentered the country, taken over the government by force, and slaughtered all pro-western Iraqis by the millions. Saddam Hussein will look like a saint.

  • Re: Foolishness
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:08 p.m.

    Yep, Obama already said that he would continue war in Afghanistan.

    Re: Summary
    Oh please, the Democrats are just as much in bed with corporate America as the Republicans. Obama's biggest campaign contributors were corporations such as Google.

  • Hooray!!!
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:08 p.m.

    I am proud to be an american and always will be! I am so happy to have Obama elected. God Bless America!

  • mark
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:15 p.m.

    What case wrz? I swear you have to be the stupidest person on here.

  • mark
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:29 p.m.

    "Rather, why don't you consider taking the grand step of seeing why the other side thinks as it does and offering compromises."
    Are you insane not happy? For how many years have the conservatives attacked the liberals every which way? Calling them traitors, treasonous, godless. And every other name. Attacking them every which way, even demonizing the very word liberal, every day, day in and day out.
    And now you say "consider taking the grand step of seeing why the other side thinks as it does and offering compromises."
    The gall.

  • PJ
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:30 p.m.

    Here's what Ann Coulter had to say about why McCain lost. And I agree with her. This is classic.

    "Republicans lost this presidential election, and I don't blame the messenger; I blame the message. How could Republicans go after B. Hussein Obama (as he is now known) on planning to bankrupt the coal companies when McCain supports the exact same cap and trade policies and earnestly believes in global warming?

    How could we go after Obama for his illegal alien aunt and for supporting driver's licenses for illegal aliens when McCain fanatically pushed amnesty along with his good friend Teddy Kennedy?

    How could we go after Obama for Jeremiah Wright when McCain denounced any Republicans who did so?

    How could we go after Obama for planning to hike taxes on the 'rich,' when McCain was the only Republican to vote against both of Bush's tax cuts on the grounds that they were tax cuts for the rich?

    And why should Republican activists slave away working for McCain when he has personally, viciously attacked: John O'Neill and the Swift Boat Veterans, evangelical pastors Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, and John Hagee, various conservative talk radio hosts, and on and on?"

  • mark
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:33 p.m.

    Yeah disgruntled, he is not your president elect, huh?
    Where do you live disgruntled? Cause you are not an American. And I for one am glad. What country do you live in?
    For all Americans Obama is the president elect.

  • Freddie
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:37 p.m.


    To Second Poster | 6:54 p.m.: "Join him or simply makes things worse- you decide."

    That's what the Bushies suggested to the Democrats when Dubya was elected. They elected not to.

  • Short lived honeymooon
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:46 p.m.

    The honeymoon will be short lived. After people realize that Obama cannot give them every thing he promised then reality will set in. How will he pay for all of this? He can promise you the moon, but if the money is not there it will not happen. With the financial troubles of the nation right now, that money will be quite a while getting here.

  • Voice of Reason
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:49 p.m.

    Two more comments

    Obama spent $750 million to win the election, thus breaking his word that he would only use public financing. McCain made the mistake of sticking with his principles and select $80 million in campaign financing. No candidate will ever risk opting for public financing again. It is a dead concept and the federal government can shut down the agency regulating public financing. Congress can remove appropriations for it.

    The election illustrates most Americans have gotten over color as a factor in how they judge a person. However, sinve 94% of African Americans voted for Obama in the general election and the democrat primaries, one must ask if most of them did so simply because he is African American. If some did, they demonstrated a prejudice against candidates of other races simply because of race and our country will never become colorblind until all neither support nor deny a candidate on the basis of race. Until then, Obama's election merely means we still have a large societal element which values race (their own) above merit.

  • mark
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:50 p.m.

    Randall Bogart, you are a very cool man. What kind words.

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:50 p.m.

    The young people actually won this election for Obama. He got nearly two-thirds of the 18-29 year old vote and they actually showed up in record numbers. It wouldn't have mattered if Romney was at the top or bottom of the ticket and Palin was a non-factor...

  • Kathy Hall
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:50 p.m.

    I live up by Seattle, but I was born and raised in SLC so I was curious about the response down here. It's pretty much what I expected from the Mormon state. I was thrilled by the results. I am excited about the positive changes that will come about now that we have a president who has a brain and is for the people and will focus more on the good of OUR country. I voted for Obama and I am thrilled that he won.

  • PJ
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:52 p.m.

    Ann Coulter said further, which is also classic:

    "For now, we have a new president-elect. In the spirit of reaching across the aisle, we owe it to the Democrats to show their president the exact same kind of respect and loyalty that they have shown our recent Republican president.

    Starting tomorrow, if not sooner."

  • mark
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:53 p.m.

    Momof5, what a great person you are too, you, and those like you, are truly what make this country great.
    You, and those like ya, bring a tear to this old gruff guys eye. Thank you.

  • wrz
    Nov. 5, 2008 9:56 p.m.

    mark | 9:33 p.m. "For all Americans Obama is the president elect."

    Please post for us, your dedication to and support of the current president, George W. Bush.

  • RE: PJ
    Nov. 5, 2008 10:08 p.m.

    Anyone who quotes Ann Coulter is suspect. All she wants to do is sell books and stir up trouble. She is NOT a credible source. Please stop quoting her and come up with some original thoughts. Thanks.

  • McCain Supporters MOVE out of US
    Nov. 5, 2008 10:10 p.m.

    This is simple to fix for those who just can't get over your loss.

    First of all, what happened to the mormon god out there, didn't he answer your prayers?

    Why didn't he listened to your prayers, didn't he said he'll answer your prayers, and most particularly, the prayers of the prophets and apostles?

    If you can't live with yourselves that Obama had won, then why don't you move out to alaska, live with your diva, sarah palin.

    Or, better yet, move out of the country altogether, because you're only patriotic when you win, but man, you're all such crybabies.

    Move, nobody is keeping you in this country. We don't want people like you anyway.

    You're all so hypocritical, with a doctrine from your own 13th article of faith, about following the laws of the land, and magistrates, etc, but when it's not your laws, and not your magistrates, you live opposite to your own teachings.

  • ann coulter
    Nov. 5, 2008 10:13 p.m.

    you dare to quote words that originated in the festering, hate-filled mind of this bottom-of-the-barrel person? ... if she says anything, ANYTHING, we can feel safe in believing the opposite ... she is a disgrace to this country and there is nothing classic about her.

  • RE: Voice of Reason
    Nov. 5, 2008 10:20 p.m.

    The concept of public financing of elections was dead before this one.

    Problem- the acceptance of the $84 million in public financing only limits a candidate in their fundraising AFTER they have accepted their party's nomination. Anything they have raised before that point, and not already spent, is theirs to use from the point of nomination to election day.

    Not to mention the fact of "joint fundraising committees" and national political parties who all continue to fundraise and spend on their candidates.

    Oh, and by the way, neither George Bush nor John Kerry elected to using public financing in 2004.

  • Grimble
    Nov. 5, 2008 10:27 p.m.

    wrz and PJ,

    You forget, George W. Bush enjoyed TREMENDOUS bipartisan support during our country's crisis in 9-11.

    But he exploited that support and squandered it.

  • OBAMA BACKER AND SUPPORTER
    Nov. 5, 2008 10:27 p.m.

    LOVE YA OBAMA!! YES WE CAN AND YES WE WILL!!! LETTING YOU KNOW YOU HAVE TONS OF SUPPORT HERE IN UTAH. I THINK ITS ABSOULTELY SICK THAT YOU PEOPLE STILL TALK BAD ABOUT OBAMA. HE IS OUR PRESIDENT ELECT! GET USE TO IT!!! IF YOU DONT LIKE IT GET OUT OF HERE!! THE MAJORITY HAS SPOKEN AND THEY HAVE SPOKEN LOUD AND CLEAR!!! OBAMA!!!

  • Grimble
    Nov. 5, 2008 10:29 p.m.

    To the commentor at 10:10:

    The Mormon god answered THIS Mormon's prayer, to the tune of 349 electoral votes!

  • demo-cat
    Nov. 5, 2008 10:47 p.m.

    Why is it that all these patriotic republicans who say they "have all ways been proud of our country" sound like they are only proud if their guy wins.
    I'm sure we whined when Bush won, but this is pathetic.

    Reagan = deficit
    Bush 1 = deficit
    Clinton = Surplus
    Bush 2 = record deficit

  • Joe from Iowa
    Nov. 5, 2008 11:07 p.m.

    Since he announced his he was running for President Obama has inspired me like only one other and that is Bobby Kennedy, who I campaigned for, I hope and pray the entire nation will rally around this great man and solve our problems at home and abroad....

  • WOW
    Nov. 5, 2008 11:19 p.m.

    Obama finally voted on something, himself. After casting 113 Present votes in the Illinois State Senate he finally something he could take a stance on. That is a true narcissist.

  • Disgruntled
    Nov. 5, 2008 11:28 p.m.

    I am an American, Mark, and a very proud one. I've served my country. I've given much. I've taken little in return.

    Obama is not my president. I have the right to refuse to recognize him as such. Every time I see him on TV or hear him on the radio, I will shut it off. Every time I pick up a newspaper or magazine and see his face, I will put it down.

    I want nothing to do with the man. I am not a racist. It's more about Obama's ideas and the kind of people he associates with.

    He is not my president.

  • To: Move out of US
    Nov. 5, 2008 11:56 p.m.

    OK, if all McCain supporters moved out of the US (or seceded from the union), there goes most of the wealth (we will be taking it with us), the overwhelming majority of the military, by far the greatest contributors to charitable causes, most of the small business owners, and about 75% of the tax base.

    You really sure you want us to leave? How are you guys going to support yourselves?

    It wouldn't be like a divorce. More like the parents leaving behind the lazy, ungrateful teenage kids.

  • No Envy
    Nov. 6, 2008 12:03 a.m.

    I didn't vote for Obama, don't care much for his views. I certainly do not envy him. He will be under more of a microscope than GWB. Every decision he makes and plans he implements will be heavily scrutinized. The MSM gave him a pass during the campains but I doubt they will be nice when he takes over as POTUS. I almost feel sorry for him, but I don't. He set the expectations during his campain so he better deliver on whatever this "change" is. Otherwise his campain was just smoke and mirrors.

    My confidence that he will be successful is exremely low, but it can change. Hopefully he can dig us out of this rut we are in without expanding Gov too much. I am just glad I am not in his shoes. I don't envy anyone inheriting this mess. Good luck President Obama.

  • Change?
    Nov. 6, 2008 12:14 a.m.

    Obama just named Rahm Emmanuel, a guy with mob ties, as his chief of staff.

    We're already off to a great start!

    So much for stamping out corruption in our government.



  • Obama won
    Nov. 6, 2008 12:32 a.m.

    Ombama won the election buy we all lost:
    #1:Tax payers lost.
    #2:Military and those they protect lost this election.
    #3:Family values lost this election.
    #4:The unborn lost this election.
    #5:People who own businesses lost this election.
    #6:Gun owners lost this election.
    #7:Religious liberties lost this election.
    #8:People who consume energy lost this election.
    #9:People who don't accept junk "science" environmentalism lost this election.
    10:Our grandchildren lost this election.

  • The Dow?
    Nov. 6, 2008 12:39 a.m.

    It fell nearly 500 points today. I blame it on Obama.

    How does it feel, Democrats?

    I had a bad day at work. Obama's fault.
    Someone was mean to me. Obama's fault.
    My wife is mad at me. Obama's fault.

    Demos, who will YOU blame now that Bush is gone?

    There is no laziness. There is no accountability. There is no stupidity.

    If you aren't happy, BLAME IT ON THE PRESIDENT!

  • PJ
    Nov. 6, 2008 1:03 a.m.


    RE: PJ | 10:08 p.m.: "Anyone who quotes Ann Coulter is suspect. All she wants to do is sell books and stir up trouble. She is NOT a credible source. Please stop quoting her and come up with some original thoughts. Thanks."

    Typical democratic effort to stymie free speech.

    Ann Coulter is one of the most brilliant, informed, accurate, and interesting writers of the day.

  • mark
    Nov. 6, 2008 1:35 a.m.

    Yep, like I said disgruntled. You are not an American. Not for one second are you. Don't try to tell yourself that you are. You do not have any understanding of what it means to be an American.
    I feel though, and hope, that your kind is fading away.
    When you can say that you do not support this country yet think that you are patriotic, well you should be ashamed.
    One of the fundamental ideals of this great country is the peaceful transfer of power through elections.
    If you dont accept that, you dont support this country.
    Americans understand the beauty of elections. But a few, like you, scorn them through your non acceptance of the results.
    Now, you don't have to like Obama, you don't have to agree with his policies, you can fight against him, and in four years try to replace him.
    But the majority of Americans have voted for him. He will be your President. Unless you are not an American.

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 6, 2008 1:56 a.m.

    "Ann Coulter is one of the most brilliant, informed, accurate, and interesting writers of the day."
    Wow, I actually laughed PJ.
    Say, have you ever read an Ann Coulter book, PJ, and then looked at her footnotes and gone to the sources she is citing and read them?
    You should try it. Accurate indeed.

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 6, 2008 5:40 a.m.

    All I hear On the radio is the First Black President this, the First Black President that. People say he is fulfilling Dr. Martin luther Kings Dream. Yes He is a Black man. But What kind of a man is he? Dr. King spoke of judging by the content of character and not the color of the skin. I'm not saying he is all bad. What I am saying is he is not all good either. I hope he doesn't fail our country in the next 4 yrs, but I have the feeling Im going to be one of many that says (Just as many Bush haters have), "I didn't vote for him"

  • Obama Republican
    Nov. 6, 2008 7:50 a.m.

    Look at market over history, all you morons that think republican have a corner on great stock markets are wrong.


    (R)Coolidge 1929 mkt crash
    (R)Hoover 1930 mkt fell 25% 1933 mket fell close to 40%
    (D) Roosevelt 10 out of 13 years stock market up coupled with higher taxes and social reform
    (D) Truman not one year was market down with Truman Taxes high
    (R) Eisenhower 1 down mkt 6 up Great social programs continued like Freeway systems. Not once did Eisenhower cut taxes, he wanted fiscal responsibility
    (D)KennedyJohnson mkt up 6 out of 9 years
    (R)Nixon 73-74 crash market down huge both years
    (D)Carter market up all 3 of 4 years of Carter's admin small drop in 77
    (R)ReaganBush 1987 crash, 1990 Banks and S&L's fail nation wide
    (D) Clinton 94 pull back caused by bush recession, huge mkt growth nxt 6 years
    (R) Bush 2001-2003 bear mkt, todays mkt crash and Bank Failure
    Source CRSP grad school of business Chicago

    Wake up please

  • Dutch
    Nov. 6, 2008 8:22 a.m.

    To Kathy - Not all Utah Mormaons voted for McCain

  • To PJ
    Nov. 6, 2008 10:14 a.m.

    Ann Coulter indeed. I am a staunch Republican and am terribly embarassed by the woman. She uses her hate and lies for money.

    You know, it really is dangerous to be that "right wing." I doubt any of the Brethren would go new her material.

  • Re: To move out of the US 11:56
    Nov. 6, 2008 10:19 a.m.

    The problem is not the Republicans. The problem is not the Democrats. The problem with our country is greed. And you are the epitome of that greed.

    You think you are so great? Why is it that rich people get a preferential tax rate of 15% while the rest of us have to pay on W-2 wages at much higher rates? By the way, not all rich people are GOP members. I make double UT's median salary and I am willing to share with those less fortunate. My biggest client made $40M last year and he's a Democrat as well.

    When is enough enough? I would much rather give some of my excess to put food on someone's table than buy another boat, upgrade my car that is only 2 years old, buy a McMansion, etc so I can be a big showoff to my neighbors.

    How very Christian of you to horde your money. Please, don't let the door hit you on the way out. We'll do just fine without you and your showoff money.

    Also, we won't need a military without you anyway. All the loathed people will be going with you.

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 6, 2008 10:24 a.m.

    oh happy day!

    you people need to stop acting like such drama queens!

  • Re: Kathy
    Nov. 6, 2008 11:11 a.m.

    I also grew up in SLC and live near Seattle. If the Democrats run the country like they've been running our state, we're in real trouble. Businesses are closing or moving from here left and right.

    We keep bad-mouthing big business and in the same breath saying we need more jobs. It just doesn't work.

  • Re: Obama Republican
    Nov. 6, 2008 11:15 a.m.

    Yeah right. The Market is down over 850 points in two days of Obama. That's how much confidence investors have in him so far!

    And how dare you cite the 1990's S&L Scandal as a Reagan/Bush problem? The leaders of the Keating 5 were Cranston (D-Calif) and DeConcini (D-NM).

    People in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks! How Chris Dodd (D-Conn) and Barney Frank (D-Mass) aren't in prison right now after taking Freddie/Fannie money and failing in their duties as chairs of the finance committees is inconceivable!

  • Re: Obama Supporter
    Nov. 6, 2008 11:17 a.m.

    "I THINK ITS ABSOULTELY SICK THAT YOU PEOPLE STILL TALK BAD ABOUT OBAMA. HE IS OUR PRESIDENT ELECT! GET USE TO IT!!!"

    So, you're saying we should get behind Obama, just like he and you got behind Pres. Bush? Now that's funny.

    I respect the office, but I do not respect anyone in favor of infanticide and socialism. Obama even voted to have doctors kill still-alive babies after botched abortions. This man is sick, sick, sick.

    His resume is the thinnest of any president ever. He's promised to spend more money than ever, at a time when our country is already in the hole big-time.

    He's never managed so much as a McDonald's and knows nothing about business or the private sector. He has ZERO executive experience. Yes, McCain said he's weak on the economy, but compared to Obama, McCain is Einstein on the subject.

    How we can elect a president who would immediately fail an FBI background test is beyond me.

    Respect is earned, not granted. If anything, looking at past words, votes and actions, Obama deserves our highest dis-respect.

    Those of you who voted out of emotion because he's a great speaker should not be allowed to vote.

  • Disgruntled
    Nov. 6, 2008 11:21 a.m.

    OK, I get it. So the 8 years we've seen the "W" with the cross through it on bumper stickers and "Impeach Bush", "No more Bush**", etc. - that was OK?

    But now the shoe is on the other foot, we're supposed to just "fall in line" and support your guy?

    I didn't vote for the man and I don't have to see his face or hear his voice.

    And I suppose when I put my "Obama" bumper sticker on with a cross through it, I will be labeled a racist and my car will probably be vandalized.

    You liberals are all about free speech and rights - YOURS! You sure don't care about anyone else's.

  • SS
    Nov. 6, 2008 11:42 a.m.

    To move out of the US @ 10:19 am

    Very gracious winners, you Democrats.

    You don't need a military?

    I give thanks every day for the men and women who gave their all so that I could have my freedom. Do you think freedom is free?

    How ungrateful!

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 6, 2008 12:21 p.m.

    Re: Utah Rose and a nation without god.

    It's about time! But I'm afraid even with 2 terms Obama won't be able to rectify all of the damage done to this country by the god believers in the last 200 + years.

  • Obama Republican
    Nov. 6, 2008 12:51 p.m.

    It is so funny when people leave out the facts. The Keating 5 were not 2 as shown by the above message. But were JOHN MCCAIN, and 4 others yes the two you mentioned are in the group.

    The 5 stopped Regulatory investigation by Federal Home Loan Bank into Charles Keating.

    The numbers do not lie, the markets have crashed more times with Republican Presidents. (see 7.50 am) Could it be the excess greed that comes with the party of Big Business, Big Oil, Big Finance, and Big Military?

  • Fact
    Nov. 6, 2008 12:53 p.m.

    People supported Bush when he was elected president for a year or two. Then things went to hell.
    If Obama does the same then he wont get re-elected.
    People step back and realize something. The elephants put this beautiful nation of ours in a pretty crappy situation. You lost your chance to run it, and obviously the nation thinks so.
    If Obama screws up, then in 4 (most likely 8) years you can take the reigns again and "fix" things how you see them needed.
    It amazes me how some of you people think we just elected a dictator and threw out everything this nation was built on.
    Seiously, step back and look at it from a NORMAL PERSON PERSPECTIVE

  • mark
    Nov. 6, 2008 1:33 p.m.

    RE:Obama republican:
    "And how dare you cite the 1990's S&L Scandal as a Reagan/Bush problem? The leaders of the Keating 5 were Cranston (D-Calif) and DeConcini (D-NM)"
    You don't know what you are talking about, do you?
    You do know what the Keating Five did don't you?

  • mark
    Nov. 6, 2008 1:44 p.m.

    RE:Obama republican:
    "Obama even voted to have doctors kill still-alive babies after botched abortions." No he didn't. Do you people enjoy being so ill informed?
    "His resume is the thinnest of any president ever." No it's not.
    "He's promised to spend more money than ever" No he hasn't.
    "He's never managed so much as a McDonald's and knows nothing about business or the private sector." That's not true.
    "He has ZERO executive experience." So?
    "Yes, McCain said he's weak on the economy, but compared to Obama, McCain is Einstein on the subject." Really?
    "How we can elect a president who would immediately fail an FBI background test is beyond me." He would not. You have no clue what you are talking about.
    "Those of you who voted out of emotion because he's a great speaker should not be allowed to vote." Wow, so now you are going to tell people what they have to base their votes on?
    And do you not realize that your whole rant is based on nothing but misinformation and emotion. Indeed, if their are people that should not have voted you should have excused yourself.
    Besides the election is over.

  • mark
    Nov. 6, 2008 2:07 p.m.

    I'm not liberal disgruntled. Although I would be fine being liberal. But you are making a huge assumption.
    "So the 8 years we've seen the "W" with the cross through it on bumper stickers and "Impeach Bush", "No more Bush**", etc. - that was OK?"
    Sure was. Freedom of speech is a great thing.
    "we're supposed to just "fall in line" and support your guy?"
    You have a tough time with reading comprehension don't you?
    You don't have to support anyone you don't want to, like I said, fight against him, every step of the way. Write editorials against him. Go stand on the corner and shout out your hate of him. In four years try to vote him out of office.
    What a great country this is.
    "You liberals are all about free speech and rights - YOURS! You sure don't care about anyone else's."
    Really? I'm all about free speech, you can say anything, write anything, put any bumper stickers on your car you want.
    But all that said, it still does not change the fact that you are not an American if you do not recognize the legitimately elected new American President Elect as your President.

  • Obama Republican
    Nov. 6, 2008 2:18 p.m.

    "Mark" seems to me you want to re write history. You also seem to know little about the K5.

    Lets see what Time Mag has to say about the Keating 5 or in your message 2.

    "Following the deregulation of savings and loan associations (S&Ls) in the early 1980's, several of these banks began taking greater liberties with depositors' money, sinking it into risky real estate ventures and junk bonds in an effort to reap maximum profits. Fearful about the future of the vast amounts of federally-insured money being invested, the Federal Home Loan Bank Board (FHLBB) instituted a cap on the amount of money S&L's were allowed to place in such volatile instruments.

    But before any measures could be taken against the company, five Senators came calling at the FHLBB, requesting that the charges against Lincoln not be pursued, on the basis that the S&L was a major employer in their states. These Senators John McCain , John Glenn , Alan Cranston , Donald Riegle and Dennis DeConcini.... One of the only elements that linked the men together was Charles Keating"

    Reagan and Bush Deregulated! But I am sure you do not blame them?

  • Thank You, Rush Limbaugh
    Nov. 6, 2008 3:02 p.m.

    I just want to say thanks to all of you on this site who spout the words and policies of Limbaugh, Coulter, Fox News, O'Reilly, et al. I was born and raised a TRUE conservative in Utah, and I will stack my bona fides against anyone claiming to be conservative on this site. I am also a successful businessman, so I have a major concern about the economic viability of our country and world. Because of the shift of the Republican party to Rove and his politics of utter divisiveness, I voted for Obama. Sometimes I've reflected on this choice. But coming on this site and reading the tripe that is being spouted as political commentary by the "Republican base" reminds me that I made the right choice.

    So please, keep spouting. That is your right, and I would never try to stop it. The good thing is that it will strengthen the rest of us, left and right, red, white and blue, as we unify against such garbage to work through the problems we face as Americans.

  • mark
    Nov. 6, 2008 3:14 p.m.

    Ahh, Obama Republican, It's got nothing to do with rewriting history.
    You made the claim that the Keating Five were the leaders of the S&L crisis.
    "And how dare you cite the 1990's S&L Scandal as a Reagan/Bush problem? The leaders of the Keating 5 were Cranston (D-Calif) and DeConcini (D-NM)."
    You said this in response to Obama Republican's comment:
    "R)ReaganBush 1987 crash, 1990 Banks and S&L's fail nation wide"
    The Keating Five were accused of trying to intervene on the part of the chairman of the Lincoln S&L who was involved in a regulatory investigation by the Federal Home Loan Bank Board due to the S&L failure.
    The Keating Five were not accused of having anything to do with the S&L failures.
    They were accused of interfered with the FHLBB in its investigation of Lincoln Savings

  • mark
    Nov. 6, 2008 4:09 p.m.

    Oh, I'm sorry Obama Republican I didn't notice that was your post at 2:18, I thought I was responding to re:Obama Republican. (why can't people just put a lil name in there, oh well)
    But anyway you say I am trying to rewrite history. Really? How so? Especially when I said nothing in my initial post about the Keating Five's history. So, pray tell, where am I rewriting history?

  • mark
    Nov. 6, 2008 4:10 p.m.

    Especially because I said exactly what you said.

  • Voice of Reason
    Nov. 6, 2008 4:50 p.m.

    To: Re: Voice of Reason. Public financing was obviously not dead since McCain used it, sacrificing an election by adhering to his principles. It is dead now. No candidate will use it again, so the demos and repubs in the Congo should remove it from the appropriations and the bureaucracy administering it should be cut.

  • Re: Mark
    Nov. 6, 2008 4:55 p.m.

    You completely glossed over the part about Dodd and Frank. Or is what they did OK? I sure don't think it is.

  • Disgruntled
    Nov. 6, 2008 5:00 p.m.

    Mark, you don't decide who is and isn't an American. Anyone born in the US is an American. If I got so angry with the election of Obama that I moved to Canada, I'd still be an American.

    Anyway, it's a silly argument.

    I don't like Obama, I don't have to listen to him or see his face. I will vote for whoever runs against him in 2012.

    What comes around, goes around. You Demos beat on GW Bush from Day One. Your man won't get a honeymoon from the right. You "upped the ante" in the hate category, now don't whine when it comes back to haunt you.

  • John Pack Lambert
    Nov. 6, 2008 8:20 p.m.

    I think we need to give Obama a chance.
    I voted for McCain, but Obama won fair and square.
    I wish that people would show respect for other human beings and not insult them.
    I am encoraged by those who see that we need to get behind the new president-elect to move things forward.
    I also have to observe that the rudest comments still come from some of the Obama supporters. They will still claim that Utah is the most out of touch state, even though Wyoming and Oklahoma voted for McCain by significantly wider margins than Utah did.
    Well, I wonder if Reid will keep a cabinet seat?

  • John Pack Lambert
    Nov. 6, 2008 8:26 p.m.

    I also have to say what the 6:13 commentator said was reprehensible.
    I think the majority of residents of Utah voted for McCain and Palin because they believed they have better policies and will be better leaders.
    I think the 6:13 commentator has to understand that Obamas declaration of opposition to Proposition 8 distubed many of us. Many people also take offense to his having voted in favor of infanticide.
    We may overvalue social issues, but to act as if we ignore social issues is unfair and wrong.

  • John Pack Lambert
    Nov. 6, 2008 8:49 p.m.

    To Edgar Friendly,
    The bailout was passed by a Democrat house and Democrat senate. So do not claim that it was just a Republican idea. There were people from both parties for and against it, so your simplistic blaming it on Republicans has no relevance to what really happened.

  • John Pack Lambert
    Nov. 6, 2008 8:53 p.m.

    To Good riddence,
    As a non-Utahn reading the Deseret News discussion boards why do you assume everyone else is a Utahn?
    Your assumption is illogical.

  • John Pack Lambert
    Nov. 6, 2008 9:02 p.m.

    To the 9:33 commentator (Des News should fact check),
    Canada did not become even marginally independent until 1867, while Britain banned slavery in all its colonies sometime in the 1830s.
    Slavery in Great Britain itself was outlawed in about 1770 (I think it was a bit earlier, but am not sure).
    By 1810 and I believe earlier all Northern States had began gradual abolition, but slavery did not fully end in Pennsylvania until the 1830s if not latter.
    All northern states had banned slavery before the civil war. However New York had tolerated southerns bringing their slaves and keeping them in bondage.
    However, men like William Steward were clearly opposed to slavery, and the South's repudiation of the election was clearly based on fear that the "Black Republicans" would end slavery in the south.
    One must also bear in mind that the Dred Scott decision had made slavery legal in all the territories. It also may have made slavery legal in all the states, since Dred Scott had lived in Illinois and should in theory have become free by living in that Free State.

  • John Pack Lambert
    Nov. 6, 2008 9:10 p.m.

    To the 10:23 commentator,
    However the French did elect a son of an immigrant father who was not a presence in his early life as president.
    I am pretty sure that Obama is the first son of an immigrant to be president of the United States since Andrew Jackson.
    However, he is not the first who people claimed was born outside the USA. Actually, Chester Arthur might have been the son of Canadian immigrants. I know his family lived in Canada for a time, and it was claimed he was born there and that it was his brother who died who was born in the United States and his parents switched the info on which son was which so Chester could be a native born US citizen.

  • John Pack Lambert
    Nov. 6, 2008 9:33 p.m.

    To ignorance at 11:52,
    Actually for the most part you assume people live in Utah with no real basis in fact.
    If you want our country to move forward in unity you need to stop acting like some states do not count as part of the country.
    Stop insulting people based on where they live. You can not insult people into accepting unity.

  • John Pack Lambert
    Nov. 6, 2008 9:53 p.m.

    To Gal50,
    I wish people would stop being so judgemental and hateful towards parts of the country.
    It is no longer 1962 and your attack on Georgia is totally without merrit.
    I am also still trying to ffigure out why you hate Tennessee, Kentucky, Arkansas, Missouri, Wyoming, Nebraska, the Dakotas, Oklahoma and Kansas.
    Even your hate of South Carolina, Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama seems to be based on outdated stereotypes. You seem ignorant of the fact that Louisiana is the ONLY state to have ever elected a man of Indian (as in India) descent as their governor.
    I have forgotten that McCain also carried Idaho, West Virginia, Montana and Alaska. The fact that the vote was so close in North Carolina that it was not called for over a day by some news agencies and so close in Indiana that it was not called for at least twelve hours after the polls closed should cause you to avoid making such generalized and derogatory statements.
    If we want to end rejudice and stereotypes, we first have to stop spreading them ourselves.

  • John Pack Lambert
    Nov. 6, 2008 10:06 p.m.

    To the 3:16 commentator on page 7,
    I am sick and tired of the unjustified and hateful attacks on Mrs. Palin.
    The attacks on her were the lies spread by the anti-life movement because she did not tow their line and did not particiapte in the genocide of the Down Syndrome people.
    There are many of us who only voted for McCain because it was a vote for Palin.
    I am tired by the fact that feminist attack and vilify with unending invective any woman who does not tow their anti-life, anti-morality, radical line.
    The election is over so end your hate spewing. Mrs. Palin is still the governor of Alaska, and still the hope of destroying embedded networks of privalege and mediocrity.
    I am tired of the elitists who assume that just because you did not go to a private school in a coastal state you are unqualifed to be a leader.
    Obama is president, so stop mocking the governor of Alaska. She is not running for any office right now, so your attacks basically constitute libel.
    One reason Obama won is because he never stooped to the mean-spirited type of attacks you engage in.

  • John Pack Lambert
    Nov. 6, 2008 10:15 p.m.

    I have to agree with the first two comments by "Just the Facts Man". His third comment ignores all those who voted for candidates such as Barr and McKinney.
    The comment about the African-Americans being racially motivated ignores many facts. The fact of the matter is that for a wide variety of reasons African-Americans tend to vote Democrat by very large margins. It is also true that Mormons tend to vote for Republicans by very large margins. The reasons for these things are quite complexed, and calling African-American voters racist for voting for Obama ignores many things. Unless you have ever lived in a city where the majority of residents are African-American do not even pretend you understand what is going on.
    I do not understand even a little bit the African-American thought process and I went to school in Detroit for two years, which is the most African-American of the top 100 cities in the United States.

  • John Pack Lambert
    Nov. 6, 2008 10:48 p.m.

    To "Utah Jazz",
    The margin that Wyoming voted for McCain by was greater than that of Utah. I seem to recall that Idaho voted for McCain as well.
    You ignore the fact that Utah's population center is in the north, by Wyoming and Idaho. The population centers of Colorado and Nevada are far away.
    It is true than St. George is close to Las Vegas, but that is only geographically, and it still provides far fewer people than Nevada.
    However, when did Utah stop bordering Arizona. True, it did not go for McCain as much as Utah, but it still went to him.
    To claim that the results in Utah have to do with race is unjustified.

  • John Pack Lambert
    Nov. 6, 2008 10:50 p.m.

    Even in Nevada Obama only carried two counties. Elko county, the nearest to most of the population in Utah, voted for McCain by 68%, higher than the percentage in Utah. Lincoln Couty, the closest Nevada county to St. George, voted for McCain by 71%. So stop claiming Utah is unique politically, and especially that it has any racial meaning.

  • John Pack Lambert
    Nov. 6, 2008 10:52 p.m.

    To "Utah Jazz" again,
    Utah is not "the most white state".
    Iowa and New Hampshire, which both voted for Obama are much more white than Utah.

  • Disgruntled
    Nov. 6, 2008 10:54 p.m.

    Hah! Mark, are you the same guy over on the Prop 8 board calling for an overturn of the will of the people of California?

    And you're chastising me for not accepting Obama as president? Hello, Pot, I'd like you to meet Kettle.

  • John Pack Lambert
    Nov. 6, 2008 11:00 p.m.

    There were 301,771 people in Utah who voted for Obama according to the stats I obtained for cnn.com about a minute ago.
    This is more votes than Obama got in Vermont, Delaware, Rhode Island or Hawaii, each of which states Obama carried.

  • John Pack Lambert
    Nov. 6, 2008 11:07 p.m.

    To PJ,
    No I reject vitriol.
    I am encouraged by the few scatered voices of reason and end to the causticness spewed by too many people.
    I have respect for the presidency, and will no longer be lead by anyone to mock the office.
    We need to unite and move forward.
    I just hope that more people will realize this.

  • John Pack Lambert
    Nov. 6, 2008 11:12 p.m.

    To the 10:10 commentator,
    To began with it is people like you who keep the Democrat vote low in Utah. To mock people for praying is just uncalled for.
    Second, it is not the 13th article of faith that talks about honoring the law.
    Thirdly, as the liberals have said for the last eight years, we do not have a kind in the United States and critcizing the President of the United States is no crime.
    I have not seen anyone on here suggest breaking the laws. Utah is not where protesters are vandalizing property to express their dislike of the outcome of the election.
    I want us to unite and end the vitriol of this election, but to say those who do not like the president of the United States on political grounds are in violation of the law is not at all justified.

  • John Pack Lambert
    Nov. 6, 2008 11:16 p.m.

    Obama will be my president come January 20th. I think people need to get over political notions and move forward to unite the nation. Denouncing the president will only hurt yourself.

  • John Pack Lambert
    Nov. 6, 2008 11:22 p.m.

    To the 11:21 commentator,
    I hated every stupid "impeach Bush" bumper sticker I saw, and I hope that the Republicans show they are above such pointless and meaningless petyness.
    Just be glad that Bill is not back in the White House.
    Hey, I just realized how happy I am that Bill will not be in the white house. I think I will be happy for the next day because of that wonerful thought.

  • mark
    Nov. 7, 2008 12:50 a.m.

    Disgruntled, swing and a miss again. Not a Democrat. And upped the ante in the hate category? I did no such thing. Show me where I have said anything hateful about President Bush.
    But all the same, I have not "whined" one bit about anything you have said. Nothing you have said "haunts" me. You give yourself far to much credit. In fact like I have said three times now, say all you want against Obama, knock yourself out, criticize away. It is your right. And I would expect nothing less if you disagree with him. (Of course I don't know how you can disagree with someone if you refuse to listen to them.)
    But you are not an American. You may think you are, your not. Yes, yes, you have your citizenship, you were born here, but being a true American means more then that. There are many people that were not born here that understand what it means to be an American, maybe you can trade places with them. You are a sad example of the type of person that would bring this country low.

  • mark
    Nov. 7, 2008 12:52 a.m.

    Re:mark, I glossed over Dodd and Frank? What did they have to do with the S&L crisis? That is what we were talking about, you and I. What did they have to do with it?

  • mark
    Nov. 7, 2008 1:07 a.m.

    Ahh, disgruntled, no that is not me "over on the prop 8 board." That might be Mark or Mark B. But it is not me.
    Swing and a miss again disgruntled. That's three strikes. You're out.

  • mark
    Nov. 7, 2008 1:18 a.m.

    You know John Lambert, even though I don't agree with most of your positions (imagine thinking Palin would be a good president) I do think your calls for unity are outstanding.

  • 武汉 China
    Nov. 7, 2008 1:30 a.m.

    I live in China and have been able to see this election through the eyes of the Chinese.

    China has been through a lot these last 50+ years and when you simply want "Change", they can tell you change for the sake of changing isn't always a good thing. "Change" needs a purpose. They have gone from being run by us westerners who called them the "little sick people" to one of the strongest countries in the world today because of "Change". They did this not only by "Change" but by ALL supporting the chosen leader who implemented these changes.

    I have to be careful what I write, the leader didn't always make the right changes, but in the end has led them to one of the world's top nations.

    My point is to say that in order to be a great country with life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness we all need to have these differences put behind us and unite as one nation under God to support our leader. China is a great country with many many great things, so imagine what America could be if we all supported our leader?

  • Illinois Cougar
    Nov. 7, 2008 8:14 a.m.

    Well, the fact that B.O. has already drawn a "Chicago Machine" politician to be his chief of staff indicates that he has no desire to change anything.

    If anything, the whole country will get a good whiff of Chicago politics- Highest fuel prices in the country, 12.3% sales tax, Chronic 7.8% unemployment, Negative job growth,etc. Pay to play politics at its' best.

    The whole country will get a whiff of good ole' B.O.!

  • off topic...
    Nov. 7, 2008 12:54 p.m.

    but I am really, really curious as to why there are so many Utah haters on this board? And why do so many people think everyone that posts is from Utah? Such narrow mindedness is a huge form of ignorance. I am from VA, I live in Va, and love to read Deseret News. I just visited Utah for the first time ever in 2005 (and I'm 51 now) and I wouldn't mind living there myself! Geesh...stop the narrowmindedness hate mongering!

  • Cradle to Grave
    Nov. 7, 2008 9:12 p.m.

    "Socialism? | 2:40 p.m. Nov. 5, 2008
    I am curious what the prevailing notions of socialism are amongst those who claim Obama is a socialist. I know of no policies where he supports government controlling the production and distribution of goods and services. Yes he has tax policies, republicans do to. All conventional wisdom tells us that there are two quick paths to dictatorship and communism - one is pure socialims, the other is unfettered capitalism. What Obama is calling for is market regulations. Welfare polcies already exist, he wants to refine those policies, and overall improve effective government. The most overt form of "wealth redistribution" that I have ever witnessed came six months ago under the Bush administration under the guise of "stimulus package"."

    The stimulus package was "socialism"?

    Uhhhh, no. The stimulus package was essentially giving money back to those who ALREADY PAID FEDERAL TAXES! Obama said he'll give money to those who have NOT paid ANY Federal taxes.

    It isn't rocket science: Obama's plan is the introduction of socialism; the Government being made responsible to take care of citizens in EVERY way from cradle to grave.

  • mark
    Nov. 7, 2008 11:31 p.m.

    I swear you people have no reading comprehension.
    Cradle to Grave, the post you are referencing stated that the stimulus package was the "most overt form of 'wealth redistribution.' "
    Wealth redistribution, not socialism.
    Oh wait, you think wealth redistribution and socialism are the same things.

  • Disgruntled
    Nov. 8, 2008 9:32 a.m.

    Mark

    First, sorry for confusing you w Mark on the Prop 8 board. But as you can imagine it's very interesting to hear the same people saying we have to accept the victory of Obama while protesting the outcome of the Prop 8 vote. By your definition, they are also not Americans.

    Second, I never said Dodd and Frank had anything to do with the S&L scandal. I cited them as another example of Democratic corruption and the press (and seemingly your) turning a blind eye to it. The chances of these 2 being investigated now are slim to none.

    Finally, you can have your own definition of what a true American is but I don't have to buy it. You can't tell me if the shoe was on the other foot that you wouldn't feel the same way I do now. There can be no honeymoon for Obama. He's already named a highly partisan chief of staff that doesn't work well with those who don't share his views. Obama has no intention of reaching across the aisle.

    It's not winner take all Mark. Obama can unite or further divide. Looks like he chose the latter.

  • Scaaaary!
    Nov. 8, 2008 3:35 p.m.

    Michelle Obama scares the snot out of me.

    She was racist when she was in college (go do some internet research on a paper she wrote in college) and then she says towards the end of the Democrat primary (and it's important to note that this was completely UNSCRIPTED, i.e., it reveals her as she REALLY is) that "for the first time in my adult life I'm proud to be an American".

    W-H-A-T?!?!?!?!

    And THIS is the person that is going to be the "soul mate" of our nation's most powerful man?

    May the good Lord help us all.

    I'm sure I will be verbally flogged as a racist for claiming I think Mrs. Obama is a bigot and tremendously unpatriotic but, hey, if the shoe fits...

  • The Orator and The Fighter Pilot
    Nov. 8, 2008 11:23 p.m.

    Obama's one heck of an orator. However, being a great speaker alone can't keep us safe from terrorists. Nor does great oratory skill guarantee that the economy will always grow.

    Pres. Bush has been ridiculed, verbally abused, blatantly misunderstood, disrespected, ignored, blamed and mocked for EVERYTHING bad in this country. And this by his fellow countrymen!

    And what is he guilty of? Not controlling the weather in the Gulf Coast? Saying "nuc-yu-ler" instead of "nuc-le-er"? Being a down-home folksy kind of guy? Not joining in the cult-like fervor for global warming? Attacking a country with a known mad-man for a dictator because our nation's intelligence sources, AS WELL AS THE GOV'T/MILITARY INTELLIGENCE OFFICES OF M-A-N-Y OTHER NATIONS AROUND THE WORLD, believed he had weapons of mass destruction again? Trusting his military commanders that adequate troops were in place after the ground invasion had finished?

    Is Pres. Bush perfect? Absolutely not. But major mistakes in the Iraq war were identified long ago and were corrected relatively quickly compared to errors in other American historical military campaigns.

    HE'S KEPT AMERICA SAFE!!!

    To listen to die-hard liberals, you'd think Pres. Bush can't even tie his shoes correctly.

    God bless Pres. Bush!

  • mark
    Nov. 9, 2008 12:52 a.m.

    You know disgruntled, you sure have a hard time following what other people say.
    If the shoe was on the other foot I would not for one second take the same stance as you.
    If John McCain had been elected president I would recognize him as the US President as well as my President.
    I would not be criticizing him based on half truths and lies. I would not listen to the rabid partisans while trying to make my own judgement of him. And I sure would not be judging him before he had done anything in the office.
    And no, choosing a Chief of Staff is not a big deal to be criticizing a President on. Can you even tell me what a Chief of Staff does?
    President Bush has done many things that I disagree with, I did not vote for him. But when he came into office I tried to give him an honest shot.
    Not once have I ever said, or thought, that he was not my President. And on these boards I have tried to be respectful to both the man and the office, while at times expressing my disagreement.

  • anne
    Nov. 9, 2008 4:18 p.m.

    A funny thing happens when a person stops regurgitating and starts reading and listening. Preferably people with all sorts of views. Then, and only then, making a decision on what you think is right.
    Keeping in mind that as you CONTINUE to read and listen you may find that you have to tweak or change that decision.
    I promise you won't die if you do this. It will not be fatal.
    Please if you hear something that just sounds too stupid to believe stop and think. Maybe it is too stupid to believe because it is not true! Even if it is in the same direction you are inclined!
    Politics have gotten really stupid in recent years because everyone is so willing to believe the stupidest things!
    McCain isn't satan and neither is Obama. They both want to do what they can to serve this country. Huge stories have been told about both. The truth is most likely a lot more boring than the headlines give us to think.
    Don't close your mind to new information. And new thoughts.
    On both sides! We can do it. All of us.