Spokesman says patrons wouldn't like 'Zack and Miri'
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Thanks to Mr. Miller and his fine company for drawing the line somewhere. Its
funny that this is controversial to some. These are the same people that want
there to be no standards of decency in this world.
Good on them. It's their theater, they can show or not show what they want. If
people want to see it there's plenty other theaters to go to.
This is not a story that is worth writing about. Must be a slow news day.
Good for Larry.....you want to watch porn movies, move to San Francisco!
Accidentally showed some of the movie 'Sex Drive' for a 'High School Musical'
audience? LOL!! That is too funny! I bet that audience is still washing their
eyes and ears out! I will, however, never go to a movie at one of these theaters
due to their complete hypocrisy as far as what to show and what not to show. I
can't wait to see this movie!
Thank you: Taking Miller at his word, he has not drawn a line for decency but
for profitability. According to Miller's expressed standard, he would show the
rankest porn imaginable if it would make him a buck.(Of course, I
don't take Miller at his word and it sounds like you do not either)
I find it rather interesting that Larry Miller has decided that he is the new
"morality czar" for the Wasatch Front.Without Mr. Miller deciding
what are appropriate and not appropriate films for us to see how could be
possibly as adults make that decision ourselves?Without Mr. Miller I
might have made the mistake of believing that Zack and Miri was ok for me to see
and missed out on a masterpiece like "Sex Drive" that Mr. Miller has decided is
appropriate for our community.
My question is why do the "critics" care. Get a life and worry about something
that has some value. I applaud anyone who will stand up for a good cause, it
takes courage. This critic just wants the media attention. Get a life.
Glad to hear someone is standing up to the mainstream entertainment world...
Well, his spokesperson claims it's because the film wouldn't be popular enough,
not because he finds it morally unacceptable. But if Miller does in fact think
he's showing some sort of "moral fortitude" with this decision, well... He's
really just revealing his own hypocrisy.Remember back in 2006 when
he refused to show "Brokeback Mountain" - but deemed the juvenile, R-rated drug
comedy "Grandma's Boy" and the ultra-violent torture porn "Hostel" acceptable to
be shown in his theaters? Well, this time you can take a look at his website
and find that his theaters are currently playing yet another ultra-violent
torture porn - "Saw V". Not to mention "Sex Drive". Apparently there is enough
of an audience for those films. Anyways - anyone wanting to see
the film can drive an extra few miles to find a theater that is showing it. And
Miller absolutely has the right to do this - but to hold this up as some sort of
display of protecting our standards and "drawing the line" is foolishly
ignorant, since he's had no problem, in the past, and now, showing films that
are at least as corrupt as this one.
While Miller is at it, could he not show Saw 5 or movies like it?
Is this story really newsworthy?
I think Mr. Miller, and the officers of his corporation(s) should be thanked and
congratulated for exercising their constitutional rights to show they movies
they like to show at their own theaters. I almost hate to write this post
because posters at on-line newspapers are generally whiners and complainers. I
hope the whiners and complainers stay over at the Tribune, and those who wish to
make positive statements join us here at the Deseret News.
Good for Mr. Miller!
this behavior was news . . . two years ago. everybody knows the LHM group
allows certain offensive material while filtering out other equally offensive
material. they lose some profits, people see the movie somewhere else. nobody
This is great... Now if Miller's car dealerships could dig into their souls and
find some values they would probably be worth doing business with.
Porn is porn whether its called "Sex Drive" or whether its called "Zach and Miri
make a porno". Larry Miller needs to wake up and smell the coffee. Lets call a
spade a spade here. After exposing young kids to "Sex Drive" last weekend
enough is enough! According to Screenit.com the opening sequence in "Sex Drive"
shows a girl performing oral sex on a boy in his bedroom. Just the kind of stuff
I want my young or ever older kids to see. If you are going to show porn in your
theatre you better make sure it is on the right screen. Somebody needs to pay
the price for this. And we wonder why sex/porn addiction is becoming the norm in
this country. Of course it doesn't hurt anybody. There are no victims from porn.
Just ask Ted Bundy, John Gacy, Jeffery Dahmer or Richard Ramirez and about 30
other serial killers in this country. They all had 2 things in common. They were
murderers and they were all ADDICTED TO PORN!
I don't understand why Miller's decision to show some films but not others
should be an issue. A private theatre business has the right to show the films
it decides to show, so long as there is no law against showing the filem. It is
not required, by government or any other authority, to show what it decides, in
its own discretion, not to show.
I applaud his decision to draw a line somewhere, but I think it should have a
more universal application, so he doesn't set a double standard. I have to agree
with the article that I think it's somewhat hypocritical to bar this movie and
yet show "Sex Drive" which sounds just about as raunchy.
Thanks to Mr. Miller for shoving your moralistic values down the throats of
everybody just to satisfy your moralistic beliefs. Pathetic...
I'm just waiting for the many to opine about this being censorship...
This is obvious prejudice against porn lovers everywhere. I think all porn
lovers should boycott the megaplex theaters.
Its really not that big of a deal. I guess I could understand the idea of the
title being a little offensive. However, there is a choice on whether or not you
want to see the movie. Megaplex is just being silly about the whole situation.
Its not like you walk into the theatre and see this movie up on the screen. You
have to buy the ticket for it. Its up to the viewer. Taking away the choice is
just stupid at this point. I am sure there have been worse movies that are rated
R playing. I really think that people or just flipping out because the title
says porno. Heaven forbid we say porno out in public. People have standards and
just because you see a rated R movie doesnt mean you are a bad person. Get over
You own the business. You make the decisions. Thanks for making this decision.
He's just mad the movie is about the making of a porno! Glad to know Larry
Miller appoints himself as big brother for the Salt Lake County area. Mr. Miller
is in the business of movies and he needs to hold regard for ALL movies. If Mr.
Miller doesn't like this movie than I suggest he move away from showings of Saw
movies, Superbad & any other rated R movies. Be fair Larry, isn't that what your
AUDIENCES.. which AUDIENCES? Shall they continue to be the censors of Utah,
since the failure of Clean Flicks and the such...? Well, atleast we still have
our 10 dollars to use on other... appetites. Well, 9 dollars after tithing is
taken from it for the infamous Utah Corporate enterprise which I am quite sure
supports this insanity completely. Please join the 21st Century, Utahns, please.
Am I the only one who found this story hilarious? Newsworthy? Probably not.
Funny as heck? Absolutely. The guests wanted trash (HSM3) and they got trash.
Just came in a different form.
If you don't want to see it, don't see it,
Hey toolbag, Larry Miller is running HIS business. It isn't the public's theater
and he never said anything about being the "morality czar" as you put it. He
simply isn't playing a movie that he doesn't want to. Deal with it, or go back
to work in your cubicle while he counts his money. Stop drinking the hater-ade!!
While I plan to see the movie because I think it looks funny. Who cares if
Miller's theaters won't play it. They own their theaters they can play whatever
they want for whatever reason. If you don't like it then don't support their
business. I still will support his theaters because it doesn't bother me that
they want to run their business the way they want it to be run.
I can't believe that anyone would pay to see this movie in a theater. It's a DVD
rental or wait until it comes to cable at best.
You forgot to mention Dr. James Dobson. You could ask him too because he is so
knowledgable about everything. We should give porn the electric chair because
it is responsible for so many murders. All those kids who accidentally caught a
glimpse of 'sex drive' - Utahns beware - one day they will all become serial
Thank you Larry Miller! I'm glad someone will stand up for values in our world.
You do a lot of good for our community. By the way...GO JAZZ
Show 'em who's in Charge.
Larry's theater = Larry's choice of what to show, when to show it and how much
to charge. If you like his selection, schedule and price, feel free
to attend.If you don't like his choice, then YOU are welcome to
invest your own hard earned money and open a theater to show what you want, when
you want and at prices you want to charge.It's called freedom and
capitalism.It works every time.If you don't like it,
shut up or move.
I don't think I can improve on what you said, especially "Shut up or move."Go Larry!!!
This is the same guy who pulled Brokeback Mtn but did not know what it was
about. Somehow, I think the movie going public is wiser than Larry.I
did not see BBM for the same reason I won't see Zack & Miri or go to a Jazz
game; They don't appeal to me. It starts w/ one well meaning
businessman deciding whats best and where does that end. Hmmmmm? Hillary's
healthcare? Bailing out Wall St? please let me know.Is it just me or
is anyone missing the big issue which is give the consumer an option & let them
decide? Libertarian views in repressed Utah; what the deuce was I
Obviously he doesn't care if you want to go watch that movie somewhere else.Go ahead.If you don't like Larry, don't support him, but I'll continue.
I am not defending porn, but your insinuation that porn addicts will go on to
become serial killers is a bit extreme. Keep your overblown hyperbole out of the
I think that's what bothers Miller's critics the most: He has the freedom to
show whatever movies he wants to at his theatres.Only in the warped
world of the Left would a business decision by a private entity be seen as
Hm that movie appeals to me and I am a woman!! whats wrong with watching a porn
once in awhile. Larry Miller just doesnt get it, does he :0
Didnt God give us Free agency Whoo is Larry Miller to think he can take that
away from me ???? when did he become God? He may think he is
So quit blaming the decision on him. Remember he has given the reigns over to
his son, Greg. So quit blaming Larry.
Ray is correct. Keep your melodramatic posts where only you can read them!
Larry Miller has stepped down from the Miller Group, and his son Greg is running
the show now.
Thanks LHM for showing some moral courage in our world of "anything for a buck."
This movie is an example of the lowest common denominator.
"Thanks to Mr. Miller and his fine company for drawing the line somewhere. Its
funny that this is controversial to some. These are the same people that want
there to be no standards of decency in this world."You obviously
don't pay attention to all the other R rated movies he profits off of.
My only disappointment is the fact that Larry apologized for not showing Broke
Back Mountian. If a business doesn't want to show a show or sell a product, They
have that right. Quit worrying about being "Politically Correct". Go ahead and
say , I don't want to show this movie, because it has the word porno in it. Say,
I don't want to show this movie ,because it promotes a gay lifestyle. I don't
want to open on Sunday, because it is against my religion. I wish Larry Miller
and other business owners would do more. I think they would be suprised at the
level of support they would get from the public. So a few wacko's don't come to
a Jazz game, and a few Gay people don't come to a movie because they are
sticking to their standards. At least they are sticking to their standards. That
is where the Hypocrisy is in this situation. If you choose not to show it. Don't
show it, If somebody ask why, Tell them the truth. This movie violates my moral
standards ( or) This movie is bad for business, because people will think I show
porno's at my theaters.
It's Larry's theater... he can show whatever he wants. If you don't like what
he is showing, go someplace else... PLEASE!
You can show movie anytime you want in your theater.
"If you don't like it, shut up or move." Only in the warped world of
the Right would it be appropriate (and praiseworthy) to tell someone giving
their opinion of a private business owner to "shut up or move."
It's his theatre he can show whatever he wants. Don't like it? Go to another
That's ok, I know I will still be able to see it at the Marriott.
Ummm... Helloooo to you. It is his business. He should be able to show what he
wants. Start your own theatre if you don't like it.
Oh yeah, thats right, no one here likes movies unless they are squeaky clean and
made by the LDS church. Afterall, everyone in Utah is just in our own little
bubble and we are all self righteous Mormons who think we are better than
everyone else. Good for you Larry, you are such an amazing righteous man for
keeping this out of your theatre. BARF... Some Utahn's make me plain old SICK!
One day you will get what is coming to you.
Doesn't Larry Miller have agency as well? He is exercising it in not showing
that film. You also are free to choose to watch it at another location. In no
way is your agency violated, why is it that so many people don't understand
I will tell you what is wrong with this country! The liberal left and liberal
media are all over this. I can read between the lines. Here is the reason the
Megaplex theaters are not showing this movie. It has the word PORNO in the
title. Whether it is based on Larry's personal beliefs or the belief that the
word Porno is bad for business in the longrun, it doesn't matter. Larry owns the
business, he can decide to show it or not. Larry would be attacked by the media
and the politically correct crowd if he or his spokesman came and told the
truth. Apparently Larry does not want to be the lighting rod for this
discussion. Just like Civil Rights, Women's Rights etc. Somebody needs to be
that lighting rod. The 1st to take a stand. The 1st to take abuse from the
media and the advocates. Everytime I hear somone apologize to these liberal
groups for offending them , I want to scream. Being politically correct is
killing America. Say it how it is. Porno in a title crosses the line, it is bad
for my business, or it offends me. Go to another theater!
You're still more than welcome to watch whatever you want. Miller didn't take
that choice away from you, as there are many other movie theaters in the state
to choose from. He just said he wouldn't be the one to provide you with that
It appears to me that Larry Miller has a higher Sexdrive than most, and decided
to show that film instead of Zack and Miri Make a Porno out of spite.Because pornography bad, Sexdrive very very good.
i'm okay, your okay, larry's okay...kay.
They show Saw V at this theater. I guess murder is OK, but sex is wrong? Wow
that makes sense?
THIS IS WHY I HATE LIVING IN UTAH!!!!IF IT WASNT FOR WORK I WOULD
MOVE TO ALASKA!GOOD LARRY MILLER AND THE MORMON MAFIA!!
The comments on this forum are a perfect glimpse of what we can expect from the
same-sex marriage supporters.Here you have a private business
deciding not to show a porn movie. They are called names, accused of censorship,
and accused of trying to shove their values down our throats.Those
who support gay marriage say it has no impact on everyone else's beliefs and
they would never try to force religions to perform gay marriages or force
churches to change their stance on homosexuality.Baloney! We are
going to see every person and every organization that does not openly embrace
the gay lifestyle come under the same kinds of attacks as this theater.
He didn't show Brokeback Mountain and that film receieved many many awards, but
because he didn't agree with it's morals, standards or message he didn't show
the film. Larry Miller works hard and it's his theater, and he's choosing not to
show a movie about a PORNO. How bad are movies going to get? In the 80's there
were things in movies that were "dirty" and now days would be a bore. How far is
it going to go? I'm happy that he's standing up and saying no, he doesn't want
it. And that's his choice. If you have a problem with it, go to a theater that
is showing the film, don't whine about one that isn't because I'm sure that he
doesn't care, and your opinion isn't going to change anything. It's his, he pays
for it, he owns it, if you don't like it, go somewhere else. Well said Dennis.
ahhh man this movie is going to be hilarious
I saw the movie sex drive. One of thee more raunchy crude movies that i have
ever seen! and pretty sure i've seen alot of movies. but i guarantee zach and
miri won't be as bad. so is he boycotting this movie just because of the title.
it is really a surprise to me what is tolerated now days. the violence and
torture in the saw movies is permitted but not any type of over the top sexual
content is not? i think larry h needs to get his morals straight.
It's about value$. He wasn't going to make anything on this one. Slasher flicks
bring 'em in, though.
Looking at the other movies that have come out this year there are hundreds that
Megaplex hasn't shown... shame on them. Oh wait, you can't show everything in
one theatre. There have been plenty of good valued movies (some LDS themed) that
Megaplex has also not shown - fortunately - sometimes it does come down to
business (which is affected by the community around you). If it were my business
I would probably not show movies like this because I don't want a certain
audience hanging around - creepy people.Also, Sex Drive may have
been given a pass if it had opened on or after the date HSM 3 opened.
Unfortunately HSM 3 will make loads of money and cause other shows not to be
screened.When it comes down to it, who are we to tell someone how to
run their business? If it turns out to be a bad business decision then the
management/ownership will have to deal with that, but as far as I know there
isn't a law against refusing to show movies you don't want to show.Maybe some of you need parenting advice - let me know and I'll tell you what's
Larry is the owner of his business. He can do whatever he wants.
To Vegasman and others who can't stand the Mormon influence: please don't come
here and try to change Utah to be like the rest of the world.Utah is
unique, conservative, a step back in time, and many of us like it that way. Why
must Utah change to be just like every other liberal place?That
makes no sense to me why you would live some place that is so unique and
complain about it not being like everywhere else, and even try to change it to
be like everywhere else. Why?There's plenty of low standards
elsewhere where people are now "in the 21st century", as one poster put it,
there's no need to try to change Utah from the great traditions of conservative
family values that it has.As for LHM, I'm glad he's not showing the
"porno" movie, and Brokeback Mountain, but it is hypocritical to make a stand on
those movies and not others like "Sex Drive", "Saw V", and others mentioned
here. That's a double-standard that really undermines any stand that he's
trying to make. And saying it's purely a business decision is disingenuous.Larry, please be consistent.
Hey everyone,It's Larry Miller's theater and he can show what ever
he wants until Obama rewrites the constitution. Perhaps the
fairness doctrine comes into play here.
Laughing out loud.
I only wish more movies were blocked in more theaters. It's a good way to stand
up to Hollywood and some of the trash that comes from there.
Larry Miller owns the theater, he can do what he wants. If you want to see a
movie, you go where it is showing. No one will go there without checking
showtimes. Anyone out there EVER go to a movie without checking showtimes
before you go.
I agree what you said about LHM being consistant. It is his business and he can
do what he wants. But he should not get credit for upholding family values if
his theater shows Saw, Wolf Creek, Hostel and others like that.The
amount of violence in these gory films turn my stomach.
I think the problem with this is Miller's transparent "business purposes"
comment. He is the owner of the business and therefore entitled to show the
movies he wants. This is not a public library and we aren't talking about
banning books. I would respect Miller much more if he simply chose
to say "We have to draw lines occasionally and feel this film trivializes
pornography which we are morally opposed to as a company." I as a
consumer have the option of seeing the movie elsewhere anyway (and plan to) I
also have the right and option to never see a movie at one of Miller's theaters
again because I believe he is a hypocritical lying bigot (and I plan to take
that option as well).
Seriously, this is news?
I don't care who shows this movie and who doesn't. There will be plenty of
theaters where people can see it.What bothers me is that people will
actually see it! We, as the consumers of can choose to buy their product or
not. We need to come out and show that we don't want this kind of crap! It's
absolute junk! Seth Rogen is an absolute loser! I'm not going to be party of
paying any part of his salary. We need to expect more, especially for the
outrages prices we have to pay at theaters. Frankly, you can see it
if you want, but these kind of movies aren't worth the gas needed to get to the
theatre. The acting is horrible, the subject matter is the absolute bottom of
the barrel, and it's sad that people waste their time and hard earned money
actually participating in this kind of lousy entertainment, you know, the kind
that actually make you dumber after watching it. Better time spent is finding a
tree and bashing your head against it. Seriously...
"Prude and ProudThanks LHM for showing some moral courage in our world of
"anything for a buck."Current Rated R & PG-13 movies Larry Miller is
making money off of at the Jordan Commons:Sex DriveRating: R
for for strong crude and SEXUAL CONTENT, NUDITY, language, some drug and alcohol
use - ALL INVOLVING TEENS.Pride and GloryRating: R for for
strong violence, pervasive language and brief drug content.Body of
LiesRating: R for for strong violence including some torture, and for
language throughout.QuarantineRating: R for for bloody
violence and disturbing content, terror and language.Saw VRating: R for for sequences of grisly bloody violence and torture, language
and brief nudity.Nick & Norah's Infinite PlaylistRating: PG-13
for for mature thematic material including teen drinking, sexuality, language
and crude behavior.Eagle EyeRating: PG-13 for for intense
sequences of action and violence, and for language.Ghost TownRating: PG-13 for for some strong language, sexual humor and drug
references.Max PayneRating: PG-13 for for violence including
intense shooting sequences, drug content, some sexuality and brief strong
language.The DuchessRating: PG-13 for for sexual content,
brief nudity and thematic material
Some movies should never make it to the big screen and this may be one of them.
Not for the subject but the quality of production and acting. Some movies are
duds no matter the subject and Miller has a financial choice as well as moral
choice to show the movies they feel will benefit them. In years past there was
many movie theaters that only showed the quality movies and left the smut to
other less dubious theaters that catered to smut minded viewers. BTW-if you
subscribe to the SAT or cable company premium channels you too should be
chastised. I'm curious, what constitutes porn? It seems it has many definitions
depending on ones values and upbringing. The naked body is not pornographic, its
ones own individual minds imagination that is pornographic. To some movies are
pornographic if it excites them and turns them on without any nudity. But a
theater can set its values and what it shows just as they have been doing for
decades. They generally focus on the quality and profits of a film, not subject
It is nice to see a large corporation make a stand as far as moral decency goes.
Your joking, right?
Standards? Are you joking? They show films like Saw 5 (Rated R for sequences of
grisly bloody violence and torture, language and brief nudity), and you think
they are making a moral stand by not showing a comedy with some nudity in it?
This film is not a porno, it is a comedy. They are not making this decision for
moral reasons, they are doing it because they know the people in this state will
rally behind them in support of this move. Mo-mos who would not have thought
twice about this film are now talking about how great LHM is (see prime examples
above), and while this is an issue they will go out of their way to support all
things LHM. Would they have made money by showing the film? Certainly, but just
look at other comments in this story to see how not showing it could very well
make them more money.I think it is pretty sad that they would choose
to do this, but it is even worse that you people actually believe the choice was
motivated by morals, thereby allowing this evil plot to succeed.
I was raped at age 7 and molested at age 9 by two different men who had porn
problems. Thank you for moral courage to add light to a rapidly darkening world.
Since I graduated in 1963 I've witnessed the dramatic changes in values and the
effects on the young and impressionable because I have always worked with youth.
The damage is difficult to repair and sometimes heart wrenching. They are our
future leaders, and we have a responsibility for their environment. Having grown
up in a difficult home, the good community and church standards kept me solid. I
didn't become a sorrowful statistic and financial social drain on society. As a
grandma I see the time pressure on parents who both have to work or single
parent. It is impossible with all the time demands to protect kids enough from
moral filth and also stifling that they can't be more safe to develop a healthy
independence. Please care, because what isn't good for youth isn't good for us
either. "Adult" should represent being "mature" and emotionally healthy enough
to "desire" quality instead of filth. Many of the short list of clean flicks
made greater profits than sleaze.
I'm dedicated to finding quality entertainment that does't insult our family
values, and it is sad that it is so difficult. There are too few movies that I
can relax in and not have to be on guard for something disturbing to be suddenly
forced on my family. We have to enter after the previews when we find a decent
movie. It is the same problem with television commercials and previews during
clean shows. More profits could be made with two versions of excellent movies we
can't attend because of unneccesary smut mixed in. Then all of us could have
freedom to choose our own pathway. It breaks my heart when my children have been
polluted by either unclean air, rivers, etc. to their bodies - or unclean
entertainment environment. Let all care about both environmental hazards.
I have to laugh at all of you who are jumping to conclusions about the film
based on the title alone. Here is what it is about "it is a comedy about two
lifelong platonic friends who have managed to trudge into adulthood with a
satisfying lack of accomplishment. However, a high school reunion and dire rent
problems spark the novel moneymaking idea of pulling together an amateur porn
enterprise with their friends. As the film begins shooting, however, Zack and
Miri realize their feelings for each other might be more than just those of
friends" -- that isn't any more offensive then some of the other crap that
Miller has put in his theaters. They are just worried about the word "porno" in
the title. If it was "Zack and Miri make a movie" I bet they would show it and
it wouldn't be an issue
This is just another publicity stunt for Mr. Miller to drum up business. And
he's perfectly allowed to make that decision for his business. I, for one, will
not be a patron of any of Mr. Miller's theatres.Not because I think
this 'Porno' movie is going to be some uplifting or masterfully produced movie
that I HAVE to see, but because I'm not stupid enough to fall for this lame
marketing ploy.The representative who said they make their decisions
based on what they think audiences will want to see is basically code for 'we
want to entice the huge LDS population to come here by pretending we are
standing up for morality.' Make no mistake, THIS IS NOT about
protecting morality - especially when they continue to show movies like Sex
Drive, Sex in the City, the Saw franchise movies, and the sadistic Hostile.Banning a movie is always going to get media attention, especially
movies like Brokeback Mountain and Zach & MirI Make a Porno. Anyone who supports
these theatres because of actions like this is only falling prey to a wolf in
sheep's clothing. Again, they don't care about morality, they care about taking
Larry Miller is a hypocrite. Saw V and Sex Drive are okay and well-suited for
business, but Kevin Smith is not.
LOL!!!! Yes, Larry is a hyprocrite...is this supposed to be a revelation? Who
cares? I don't spend money at his theatres anyway. If you don't
like his "business" decisions, why would you worry about not giving him
How much beer does Larry Miller sell at Jazz games?
both movies were classics in my book...