if Paul is one of your best 3 point shooters on the team its time to trade for
one. We did way better when we had Kover. You think that with a great shooting
coach like Jeff we would not be better from outside the arc. If we want to make
the playoffs we need a 3 point threat.
The Jazz have lost a lot of games bc they aren't able to either make shots from
3-point range or guard the perimeter. It really is the achilles heel of this
team. I remember in the recent Mavs game thinking if this game comes down to a
three point shot that the Jazz have to make at the end, we'll lose. Then, Harris
took one and air-balled it by 3ft. It was embarrassing after they showed clips
of the recent game winning threes in the NBA. They are trying to downplay it
saying they are an inside out team but that scheme only works if you punish
defenses for crowding the paint by nailing threes on them; that's what made the
Lakers so good in the past and that's what's working in places like Orlando and
Chicago. You can't beat teams when you're exchanging 3's for 2's. You need to be
able to make a min of 33% of your attempts as a team. The game has evolved and
you need good 3-point shooters to be elite. Hayward has the most potential here
and needs to get it together.
Good attitude by Hayward...his percentage should be much higher by the end of
the year. Bet it would be higher now, too, if he was playing as a 2-guard and
expected to shoot from the outside more.
Pavarotti cannot teach me to be an opera singer and Hornacek cannot teach
shooting. History proves this point. Ask Ronnie Price who had scoring records
in college but when he arrived in Hornceks care his shooting went south, as has
Raja's HAywards, CJ's until late. Devein Harris used to be a threat as a
shooter. Fesenko could not even make a free throw after working with Hornacek
for 3 years.Yesterday the Wizards made a change because the players
were not following the coach. the problem is the Jazz are following Hornacek
who has his own shooting style but has not worked for the rest of the team.Corbin needs to make a change..or the team can wait and suffer
In any top notch offense, there is inside and then outside. You go inside and
then when the defense adjusts, you go outside. This is obviously lacking. The
best shooting guard around is Bradley Beal of Florida who will be "one and
done" as Gatorade HS Player of the Year for 2011. The Jazz need a point
guard. There also is no mention of the "power pups". Millsap and the
"power pups" and a point guard and there is "no stoppin' me
Not to worried at this point. We are very young. Liking Coach Corbin and staff
more and more...BTW...why not go inside first and use our bigs...percentage
BBall. I say lets be nasty inside!!
Scalman: What does Hayward playing the 2 or 3 spot have to do with his 3 point
shooting percentage? Confused on that commment......The problem is
Harris and Jefferson. They don't know who to get players open looks. They are
slow to pass because they are "Score first" players. There passes are
too late and come after guys are standing instead of catching in motion and
@YoungBloodJazz - The Jazz have only lost 5 games this season, which is hardly
"a lot" since they are currently ranked #12 in the NBA, ahead of the
Lakers. The point is, they are still winning games without making 3-pointers, so
I think their current attitude of "let it happen when it happens" is
just fine. This team has already exceeded a lot of expectations,
especially here at home. There's even some buzz that if the Jazz continue to be
successful Coach Corbin could be up for a Coach of they Year award. While I know
we're only a 3rd of the way through a short/belated season, I think we've seen
our team win enough games to say that he knows what he's doing. 3-pointers only
win games when they go in. I'd like to us continue to develop our inside game
and once we're a little more sure there, then we can focus on the outside. I
agree that it's important to our game, but let's not force it too much and have
it cost us.
John and Karl had Hornacek..every team needs a three point
threat.teams will pack it in if the threat is inconsistent.the acid test will how the team will fare offensively will be determined the
second time the team plays opponents.In the NBA teams adjust
defensively.Refreshing though and fun to watch. I thought this
franchise was headed back to the "Brown Bear" era.
Here's my 2 cents worth on this topic. I believe the whole league average is
down this year so far probably do to the late start and the small number of
pre-season games. The Jazz shooting is bad, but ithere are other teams that are
worse. Also, the Jazz haven't taken as many 3's, and when you start with a small
number the percentage can change quickly. For example if you have made only 3
out of 10 shots you're only shooting 30%, but if you hit your next 2 shots the
percentage rises rapidly. However if you're shooting 30% after taking 100 shots,
hitting the next 2 in a row won't make a big difference. Because the Jazz
haven't taken many 3's, if they have 1 big game and hit a high percentage, their
average will rise quickly. Thanks to Mrs. Doran, my 3rd grade teacher for giving
that valuable lesson about 50 years ago. Having said all that, I also agree
though that the Jazz could benefit from picking up a great shooter!!
CJ, Hayward, Harris and Bell are all threatening enough that players have to
head back out and guard them if they are open. I agree with Hornaceck. If we
aren't making them, we would be stupid to be taking more.
A trade that sends out Harris and returns Mo Williams will cure the outside
shooting ailment. Imagine, Mo tosses the rock to Big Al, who draws the double
team. Al throws it back to Mo standing behind the arc, hitting over 50% of
those shots, or passes it to a wing player who would be wide open (although
probably only hit 1/3 of the time). Very tough to defend.
Possible 3 team trade to cure this outside shooting and the PG issue. Jazz give
Clips their Memo Okur trade exemption. Jazz receive Mo Williams. Jazz give
Lakers Devin Harris and Orlando Raja. Lakers give Orlando Pau and Bynum.
Orlando gives Lakers DHoward, and the JAzz JJ Redick.
I forgot to mention that the Lakers take on Turkoglu's contract. I can't post
espn trade machine link.
You're probably right on that, C.J. It shouldn't make a difference.
The Jazz have and inside out game? More like inside out without the out. I think
we are looking at this 10-5 record through rose colored glasses. These games
have been mostly at home with a pretty weak schedule plus most of these games
have been against teams with key players out. I think the lack of 3 point
shooting is going to be our downfall as the season progresses and teams start
packing the defense inside the way Dallas did.There is a reason
teams keep trading Mo Williams for next to nothing or letting him go for
nothing, he is not the answer.We do not want to make a trade that
will help the Lakers, Harris might be a great fit for them.
Two observations1. Not being able to shoot them does not hurt the Jazz as
much as not being able to defend them. For the last 6 or so seasons the Jazz
have been horrible at letting good/great shooters get wide open looks around the
arc. 2. I cannot help but think that if Burks would get more
Playing time to establish his rythm that he would not light it up, he can't be
worse than Haywards 9-35 or what ever it is