Good for Wikipedia! Those horrible politicians in Washington who are in the
pockets of the music and movie industries instead of serving the true interests
of all Americans MUST BE STOPPED!
Despite the inconvenience, as I use Wikipedia dozens of times each day, I'm glad
that they have taken this action. Too few "average" Americans are
aware that these bills exist and the devastating consequences that would result
if passed.Unfortunately, despite the Deseret News' usual diligence
in covering government actions it finds overbearing and anti-free market, this
is the first article the Deseret News has written on the topic (the bills having
been around for several months). There were two AP stories in the past week that
were re-posted, but this is the first actual article written by Deseret News
staff.Luckily, as far as I know, none of Utah's Senators or
Representatives have support these bills.
SOPA would create a "war on online piracy" just like we have a
"war on drugs." It would result in the expenditure of millions of man
hours and billions of dollars in an attempt to control something that can't be
controlled.To continue the comparison... Our jails are full to
overflowing with people arrested for drug crimes, yet you can still buy drugs on
the streets. For every shipment the govt. stops another ten get through. For
every pot crop burned another five go unnoticed.It is simply too
widespread. The manpower and money to enforce it effectively don't exist.
Woooo!! does anyone really care? Whatever will we do?
@Whoa Nellie: For people who use the internet and sites like Wiki or Google as
part of their everyday lives and jobs this really matters. A huge amount of
commerce is conducted online now, reflected by these companies being worth major
bucks. Losing them would certainly put a damper on economic growth.
SOPA and PIPA are pieces of legislation that were literally written by lobbyists
for the entertainment industry. It upsets me that the language of our laws are
often not even drafted by the government as is intended, but instead by special
interest groups.You won't find too many people who think internet
piracy is a good thing. However the negative effects of it are wildly overblown
by the entertainment industry. There is no way they lose billions every year to
it, and there is no way it threatens 19 million American jobs. These statistics
are just outright lies. The people saying them are liars.The best
way to combat piracy is to make content readily available at a reasonable price.
I happily pay for Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime, and Spotify subscriptions. I
also regularly purchase video games off of Steam. Why? because they are readily
available, and reasonably priced. The days of $20 CDs and $30 DVDs are over.
Your old business model is dead.Not many people are aware of this,
but the music industry actually settled a class action lawsuit where they were
accused of colluding to price fix music CDs. The price for a CD was set
artificially high by the industry, trying to gouge the consumer. And they
wonder why people were pirating.The reason SOPA and PIPA are so bad
is that the technological weapons given to the entertainment industry have the
potential to fundamentally break the way the internet works. It is written by
people who do not understand the technology they are attempting to regulate.
Leave the tech stuff to the tech guys.
I am usually against certain things, but I agree with Wikopedia. Why doesn't the
Movie and Music Industry come up with a great idea on how to code music so it
can't be transfered? Go back to CD's or something? You can't have your cake and
eat it too without some form of piracy going around with technology. Technology
is great, but it is also accompanied by EVIL as well! Look at Pornography, there
are no "Victims" there either? Look at how "Sex" is used to
sell everything today, No Victims there either? Cars, cloths, food, soft drinks,
alcohol, it all victimizes people. How one might ask, peer pressure, "The
Cool Thing", in dress that victimizes our women! in alcohol it victimizes
Children, everyone! Using "Sex" to sell victimizes everyone! It
promotes the downgrading of society. Simply look at the Modern Styles for
women's dress, Less is more! Look at men's clothing, they are taught to dress
like circus clowns, Baggy pants, baggy shirts, crooked hat brims, hanging
chains, straps, underwear showing, they look so stupid! Where has the gentleman
gone? Women are taught to live like prostitutes without collecting fees! It's
discusting! We all should take A Stand!
Re: DeltaFoxtrot - 10:44 a.m.A huge amount of commerce is conducted
online.Reply: Just look at the conservatives talk about jobs here,
when they all bow down to K Street and Wall Street Corporate sneakiness.
Government waste, outright-scams and con-games. All while in back stage secret
deals for them only. Perhaps you should get on your knees and thank AlGore for
inventing the internet, I say let's tax it to death then, that's one free market
we did not touch yet, costing us well needed tax dollars. Then where does all
Wikipedia other monies go, in "off shore bank tax safe havens" in
secret accounts?. The GOP must of had them trained real good. We the 99
percent are being taxed to death, we are the middleclass. Is that the opposing
Koch Brother's GOP/Tea Party ReaganBushClintonBush-villes economic systems of
corporate greed capitalism vs capitalist communism where they tax the poor and
give to the rich?. Isn't it "funny" how guys like Bush/Cheney made
gundles of money $$$ with ownership in LockheedMartin/Halliburton/Standard Oil?.
I hate War Profiteers also, talk about Gadiantons. WE HAVE the money to
enforce it effectively it does exist.
Wikiwhat? Honestly, it seems that Wikipedia has overestimated their value.
While I have used Wikipedia many times, it is no great loss if they shut down
permanently tomorrow. All the information is available elsewhere. Besides,
considering the open editing structure, Wikipedia is not a respected source.While SOPA needs a lot more work, something needs to be done to regulate
the uncontrolled copyright abuse that is so rampant across the internet. If I
publish a book, or distribute a cd, or broadcast a program, that violates
copyrights I can be severely fined and even jailed. Yet websites that violate
copyright laws seem to continue to do so with impunity. How so? None of us, if
we were the copyright owner, would want our work stolen from us.
@BH - Anyone who claims that Wikipedia isn't a "respected source" of
information because it is community edited is just plain wrong. Studies have
shown that Wikipedia is as accurate as any other Encyclopedia out there, and
given that over the past 3-4 years Wikipedia has been drastically improving
their editing policies, it now easily has a better fact-to-error ratio than most
publications, newspapers and encyclopedias included. Sure, there were problems
when Wikipedia first started, but those problems have been fixed. To dismiss
Wikipedia as irrelevant is arrogant foolishness. As far as SOPA
goes, giving the Movie and Recording industries veto power over the DNS system
is the worst idea in this history of bad Internet ideas. Giving a
self-interested group the power to pull any site offline without any judicial
review is an absolute travesty, and our technologically-illiterate Congress
Critters need to understand the true implications of what they are debating. My
guess is that they don't have the foggiest idea about what they could unleash.
Protecting copyright is very important, and the entertainment
industries have many legal tools in their portfolio right now to combat it, like
the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. To say they are powerless in the face of
piracy without SOPA is laughable. Giving them the power to pull the plug on any
site, any time, on their own prerogative isn't a step in the right direction. It
is a step toward giving Hollywood the right to control our technological future,
not to mention our First Amendment rights. Additionally, how can we
as Americans protest the censorship of the Internet in China and Iran if we give
that exact same power to Hollywood (of all people)? We can't. It would only
legitimize what Iran and China do.If it takes bold moves by
Wikipedia, Google and other tech giants to get the message across, I support it
No matter how smart Congress and the Movie Industry Lawyers think they are,
there is one thing that is even more certain: Hackers will always be 10 times
smarter than them.This law won't stop piracy, because Hackers and
pirates will always come up with new ways to subvert the system. This should
just be an accepted fact at this point. All this law would do is
give technological power to people who don't understand it and can not be
trusted not to use it without abusing it. The DNS system is key to the workings
of the Internet and the only people who should control it are people who
actually understand it, not movie studio executives.It's akin to
giving a gun to a toddler and telling them to "play safe." Guns, in
the proper hands, can be instruments of protection, but in the wrong hands, all
it will reap is destruction and wrongful harm.Hollywood (and
Congress) are the last groups of people to be trusted with the keys to our
Down with SOPA.
@Schwa: You got that right. People pirate entertainment because they believe the
price to obtain legitimate copies is too high. I respect artists, actors and
musicians for what they do, but they don't make very much money off of DVD and
CD sales. Most of that cash goes to the publishers and record companies. These
greedy megacorporations have a stranglehold on the entertainment industry, and
SOPA/PIPA are their agenda. Lowering prices would be a great way to combat
piracy, but who ever said big business did anything logical.My
problem with SOPA and PIPA is that they are a machete to the problem of content
management online where a scalpel is really needed. These acts have the
potential to change the way the web works globally and mass government
censorship by the US would only encourage web companies like YouTube and
Facebook to move their operations offshore, taking billions of dollars out of
our struggling economy.
As far as the condemnation of Wikipedia goes, as long as you stay away from
politics and popular culture the information Wiki has is generally very
accurate. It is a great way for people to educate themselves about history,
science, technology and the natural world.