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  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Jan. 1, 2012 10:26 p.m.

    Fantastic recruiting success we're having this year! Haven't seen DNews say anything about it yet, but also the other day, OT Cedrick Poutasi, the second-ranked recruit from Nevada and a four star by Rivals, committed. That gives us 4 four stars and 5 of the top ten in the state so far. Elliss, Kemoeatu, Pouha, Fanene, Soliai, Fifita, Lotulelei...Vainuku??

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Jan. 1, 2012 11:01 p.m.

    We've converted many from BYU so no worries... Welcome to the Ute Nation!

  • BYUte06 Beverly Hills, CA
    Jan. 2, 2012 1:03 a.m.

    Welcome! Best of luck to you during your transition and at the U!

  • Brad E. HERRIMAN, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 1:40 a.m.

    Welcome to the U!!! You are joining a fine heritage of U of U Alumni such as President Hinckley and President Monson! We are proud of your decision to come to the U, and also to serve a mission!! Can't wait to see you on the field! Go Utes!

  • Magna Ute Fan Magna, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 2:53 a.m.

    Welcome to the U Vaha! From a fellow East High Leopard, we're very excited to have on board. Best wishes on your mission.

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 6:32 a.m.

    He had 4 offers, Utah St., Wazzu, Hawaii and Utah.
    Hardly the Who's Who of College football.
    BYU did not offer!
    Utah was his best offer.

    Calm down Red Tailed Hawks, don't make more of this than it is.
    U beat out USU, WSU and Hawaii for his services, that's it.

  • SC Native South Jordan, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 7:51 a.m.

    He may change his mind if the news last night was true. Sitake may be going to Washington. He won't have the same defensive coaches there that recruited him.

  • golfrUte SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 8:47 a.m.

    Sitake is staying at Utah. He's also getting a very substantial raise.

    Kilani is a great coach/recruiter and an even better person.

    Go Utes.

  • GoRed WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 9:20 a.m.

    @bluto

    Where did you get this "inside information"? If you would do your research, you would find that he chose not to consider BYU.

    Your hatred toward Utah is apparent in all of your posts.

  • thebigsamoan Richmond, VA
    Jan. 2, 2012 9:30 a.m.

    As a fellow poly and big Cougar fan, I can't be excited at the prospect of losing all the good poly recruits to the Utes but I guess this is what the effect of playing in a BCS championship conference can do. Utah definitely has got the edge now in the recruiting process. Unless the BCS folds in the future and a NC game is decided on the field through a playoff system, my cougs I'm afraid, will have an impossible chance, if at all, of putting together a talented enough team to compete for a national title.

    As sad as that picture looks, I'm still hopeful that Bronco and his coaching staff can recruit and put together a squad of talented enough choir boys that can keep us cougar fans excited and proud to continue giving our support.

    Go Cougs!

  • TheNun Granstville, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 9:38 a.m.

    The news surrounding this latest recruit only continues to expose the arrogant, bullheaded, and delusional behavior so typical of the coaches at BYU. The article said the Y hadn't even offered Vainuku and wouldn't even consider doing so until he visted happy valley.

    The bottom line is they expect most church member recruits to receive "preferred" walk on status simply because they are a member of the church, instead of offering them a scholarship outright. This instance only helps other kids realize if they want to come to play for the Y, be a walk on, then be evaluated for a scholarship if one becomes available.

    The Utes do it right, if the kid is worthy of a scholarship, they offer him one and then welcome him into the fold so he can become acclaimated with the entire process of being D1 scholarship player.

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 9:47 a.m.

    Poor Bluto.

    1. Did you read the article? BYU had an offer in hand for when he visited, he told them "forget about it!"
    2. Vaha is nowhere near our best recruit this year, but still an in-state win as one of the best players from the state. This impacts future local recruiting classes, and draws fans from families who were not fans before.
    3. We actually develop our players, especially the defensive guys, into great players. We don't have teams like USC develop them and then transfer them. I'll listen to your argument of who is worth a scholarship when I see half a dozen Cougs starting in the trenches in the NFL.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 10:14 a.m.

    Byu had an offer in hand, only if he promised to commit to them. That way we can believe we get every recruit we want. It's all part of the confirmation bias we have grown accustom to.

  • Fly Fisherman Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 10:52 a.m.

    "I hated Utah growing up," he said. "I was a BYU guy"

    Same with me. I always loved BYU growing up, and hated the Utes. Now I love the Utes. Now, I don't hate BYU at all, and in fact would call them my 2nd favorite team. But I love the Utes, and hope they get a Rose Bowl win soon!

    Good job, Vainuku! And I am glad you made the decision to go on a mission!

  • 61Cougar Seattle, Wa
    Jan. 2, 2012 11:07 a.m.

    @StGtoSLC re: Your 3 points to "Bluto"

    Ouch.

    It hurts, but I believe you to be spot on with all three of your points.

  • golfrUte SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 11:11 a.m.

    @ bluto

    Take off the blue colored glasses and read the article again.

  • Magic Happens Kaysville, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 11:13 a.m.

    Re: Go Red & STGtoSLC - Don't be to hard on Bluto. He tries but can't help himself. It was just last week that BYU announced a new commitment, Marques Johnson, a 3 star JUCO who was offered scholarships from both BYU and Washington State (kind of familiar offer list) with some interest from Indiana. It was also (I believe) the same day that Poutasi announced his commitment to Utah and it wouldn't be right to upstage the BYU announcement with a superior 4 star commitment from the Utes. This is an article about a local player and his decision. Lets have compassion for those few BYU fans that can only feel good about themselves by belittling and trying to find fault with others. Most of the fans in this rivalry do respect the accomplishments of each team, but some just don't have the maturity. Perhaps someday... after all
    Magic Happens!

  • Kiboo South Jordan, Utah
    Jan. 2, 2012 11:16 a.m.

    Congrats to this kid for picking the school that was most appealing to him.

    The problem here is larger than this kid choosing his "hated Utes" over BYU. He may or may not pan out as a D1 football player, particularly when injuries, other talent on the team, etc. are factored in.

    But what is clear is that kids that would never have chosen Utah over BYU are now doing just that. So one has to as why - and I think the answer is clear. The opportunity to play USC, UCLA, Stanford, Oregon, Big 10 teams, etc. - win or lose - is a huge draw vs. the uncertainty that independence offers BYU. We saw the Cougar's schedule last year and know that it won't be much better this year. So in that regard how can you fault the kid?

    All BYU fans can hope for is that Holmoe and the administration know what they are doing. Because if they don't and BYU is ultimately left out of a BCS conference, the results could be dire.

    I am and will continue to be a huge BYU fan - a fan that is seriously concerned about the future of BYU football.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Jan. 2, 2012 11:19 a.m.

    Bluto:

    Vaha was a 3-star Defensive recruit; ergo, not bad! While he's nowhere near our top Defensive talent committing to the U, it's good to know that his commitment could rain down your jealous frantic and emotional tears like a monsoon. Delicious!

    But hey, for what it's worth, it's still looking like you'll be landing the top recruiting class in the WAC.

    [*snicker*]

  • azjim GILBERT, AZ
    Jan. 2, 2012 11:24 a.m.

    and Harline is still open............

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 11:59 a.m.

    61coug, haha sorry, my remarks aren't directed at you classy guys, just to bring some of the haters back down to Earth.

  • ImaCaMan Oceanside, CA
    Jan. 2, 2012 12:07 p.m.

    Re:AzJimmer

    No; Harline is so closed, but have fun continuing to live in the past. All excited about the upcoming game in the SlimGym? It'll make St. Mary's gym look like the Delta Center (if that's what it's still called).

    54-10

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 12:07 p.m.

    azjim, Brandon Burton is still in your backfield. And VJ Fehoko is still jogging.

  • TheHailstorm South Weber, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 12:43 p.m.

    Isn't Harline playing guitar in a rock band and not on Sunday's

  • Duh west jordan, ut
    Jan. 2, 2012 12:44 p.m.

    @StGtoSLC
    From: 61Cougar re: Your 3 points to "Bluto"

    He is right, it hurts but even I can agree. Doesn't change the fact that I am still a BYU fan, true blue.

    That is what makes BYU so unique. Say whatever negative comments that Ute fans can say about BYU, given their circumstances, the limiting factors ie: honor code, it is still amazing that BYU can put a decent team together to be competetive. No, I don't think we will ever win another National Championship and no I don't think we ever get to a BCS game, unless we go undefeated and if we become part of a BCS conference but, that won't change my mind about BYU. They always have and always will be my team.

    The problem for Ute fans is they know that if they lose to BYU, it will make them look bad. I don't have to worry about that.

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 1:21 p.m.

    Duh, to tell you the truth, I don't have too many problems with BYU's program, and I enjoy civil football x's and o's talk better than smack talk. I watch as much football as I can, so when I watch BYU, it's not out of an obsessed desire to see them lose. They definitely are one of the more unique programs at the FBS level, and I think some of those same limiting factors you mention are also becoming strengths for them. I think many LDS families are becoming much more avid sports enthusiasts and BYU is generally the top choice for out-of-state LDS recruits. It will be very interesting in the coming years to see how the respective directions the two programs are headed will impact the success each is able to have.

  • USNGary South Jordan, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 2:31 p.m.

    By the time he gets off his mission he will not be going to Utah any more. Watch and see

  • 54-10 Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 3:38 p.m.

    and the beat down continues. First on the field, now with recruits.

  • Hatch Sandy, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 4:29 p.m.

    Good for him. You have to support any young man that carefully weighs the options and makes his OWN decisions. Thats leadership. Obviously his parents have much to be proud of.

    Always a Cougar but impressed.

  • Wally West SLC, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 4:53 p.m.

    re: StGtoSLC | 9:47 a.m. Jan. 2, 2012

    "I'll listen to your argument of who is worth a scholarship when I see half a dozen Cougs starting in the trenches in the NFL."

    I can think of one and he is hair obsessed like his team mate Paulallama

    re: azjim | 11:24 a.m. Jan. 2, 2012

    71-26

  • 61Cougar Seattle, Wa
    Jan. 2, 2012 5:45 p.m.

    "61coug, haha sorry, my remarks aren't directed at you classy guys, just to bring some of the haters back down to Earth."

    No prob. And thank you!

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 7:03 p.m.

    Wally, for your 1, I can think of Pouha, Fanene, Gross, Kemoeatu (x2), Soliai and Beadles off the top of my head. Keisel is a stud, though.

  • hymn to the silent Holladay, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 9:18 p.m.

    Good choice for a big man...Utes have been turning the likes of his body type into NFL beef. The maturity of a mission will help, then it's time for tons of hard work and some fun playing against the Nation's best...If I had those genetics I would certainly trust them to Kyle and the gang. It will be fun watching him develop.

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 11:30 p.m.

    @ 54-10

    I was willing to just say congratulations to Utah about winning their bowl game and doing well recruiting but you continue to bring up an irrelevant game that seems to define everything about Utah. I have news for you: 54-10 is meaningless to anyone with any concept of a season record.

    17-14 is more telling about your program.

    And for those like you crowing about how great the PAC 12 is this year, they went 2 - 5 (.288) in bowl games. The independents were .500.

    The PAC 10.2 is OVER RATED and it will be a long time from now that you'll ever see Utah is the Rose Bowl. I'm not saying it won't happen, but the Rose Bowl isn'y the National Championship Game either. So no NC for Utah; no Heisman Trophy Winner for Utah; and a Southern Division chamionship---waaaaaaay in the future.

    I base this on the great results of being tied for 6th in the PAC, losing to Colorado AT HOME, and thinking that beating BYU was the coolest thing since sliced bread. Everyone knows that is your true priority EVERY year. Big deal......Try winning more games.

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 3, 2012 12:03 a.m.

    toosmartforyou -

    If you think going 10-3 with that schedule was more fun than going 8-5 with Utah's schedule then you've definitely picked the right program to keep rooting for ... and for years and years to come I may add!
    Not me, I'm far more proud of the Utes and what they accomplished this year. And how awesome is it to have a good opponent to watch every single week outside of maybe one?!! Even when Utah loses, the fans still win.

  • MidMajor4ever Syracuse, UT
    Jan. 3, 2012 1:29 a.m.

    toosmartforyou, why the bitterness?

    Yes, the PAC-12 went 2 - 5 but had two teams in BCS Bowl games.

    Nearly 50% of your team's games were against WAC teams so to be fair, let's include both the independent and WAC bowl games. The combined WAC/Indy bowl record was 1 - 4 (.200) against lower competition.

    No the Utes haven't had a Heisman Trophy winner but we have had the 1st overall pick in the NFL draft. No, Utah hasn't won a NC but if they could have played the 7th place team in a 10 team conference in a mid-tier bowl game for the championship they might have a couple of NCs.

    Beating BYU isn't "the coolest thing since sliced bread", it's expected. BCS conference teams are expected to beat mid-majors.

    "Try winning more games"? Playing the 90th most difficult schedule would certainly put a team in a good position to win more games but no thanks, I like Utah playing a more difficult schedule in the Conference of Champions.

    Utah and BYU have gone different directions and we can now cheer for both programs as they are no longer conference rivals.

    Congrats on your bowl win.

  • PAC12Fan South Jordan, UT
    Jan. 3, 2012 7:36 a.m.

    BYU has a nice program but nationally has become the equivelant of Utah State with more fans. As ESPN's darling, they should be helping BYU get into a real bowl. It's come down to all or nothing. After their loss to Notre Dame or Utah next year, they won't be playing for anything again.

    BYU had their 15 minutes. I hope one day, BYU gets into the Big 12 but for now, BYU will be losing out on a lot of great recruits.

  • AZguy Phoenix, AZ
    Jan. 3, 2012 9:35 a.m.

    Why am I the BYU fan that has to calm down the other BYU fans? Very odd. I guess it is because of my love of the ASU and PAC-12 that is only a hair below my love of the Cougars.

    The young man chose Utah over BYU. Good for him. It has happend before and it will happen again. It is ok. It works the other way too. I hope he has all the success in the world except for the day he plays the Cougs.

    There is nothing wrong with going to Utah. Look at the BYU pedigree in the coaching alone. Not only that 25% of the coaches in the PAC-12 are from BYU. Though it is hard to count Leach since he only watched Lavell's game from afar. BYU and Utah are both in a great position moving forward.

    Stop trashing the U. It was 54-10! That is not a couple of missed plays away. The past can't be undone. Trashing on them for losing to CU when CU lost to Hawaii doesn't count. Utah had redemption from the CU in the bowl game.

  • TheNun Granstville, UT
    Jan. 3, 2012 10:03 a.m.

    @ azjim,

    and....Brandon Burton is still unblocked off the edge.

  • Cali Coug Visalia, CA
    Jan. 3, 2012 11:10 a.m.

    And BYU is still a better school.

  • williary Kearns, UT
    Jan. 3, 2012 12:43 p.m.

    Facts are facts. Utah is winning the in-state battle for football recruits over BYU, and it's not even close this year.

    Looking at Rivals, ESPN and Scout, there are 14 different players listed in the Top 10 in the State of Utah. Here's how each school is doing with those 14 recruits:

    Utah - Has verbal commits from 7 of the 14.
    BYU - Has verbal commits from 2 of the 14.

    4 of the 14 have either verballed, or soon will, to out of state schools, they will not attend either Utah or BYU. This includes Fanaika who picked Stanford over Utah, and Afalava who is deciding between Washington and Nebraska. BYU was never in the game with either.

    Last of the 14 is Moana Ofahengaue. Still uncommitted, but most sources saying if he stays in state, it's Utah, not BYU.

    There's no amount of BYU spin that can make those numbers look good for the BYU football program.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Jan. 3, 2012 3:59 p.m.

    @williary

    But of course the best recruit in the state is going to BYU, same as last year.

    And in the years BYU signs the larger number of instate recruits then your spin is that utah signed the "best" ones. utah "fans" spin is hilarious. Last year at this time utah "fans" were telling us that there aren't that many good recruits from this state, that utah would no longer be signing that many kids from utah because they aren't good enough, if that is true then what we now see is utah's desperation at not getting all the supposed national recruits you told us they were now going to be getting so they are settling for instate recruits. There's no amount of utah spin that can make those numbers look good for the utah football program.

    LOL!

  • MiP Iowa City, IA
    Jan. 3, 2012 4:49 p.m.

    It looks like Bluto did not read the article.

  • 54-10 Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 3, 2012 5:01 p.m.

    @ Duckhunter | 3:59 p.m. Jan. 3, 2012
    Highland, UT

    and yet it was 54-10.

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Jan. 3, 2012 5:07 p.m.

    "if that is true then what we now see is utah's desperation at not getting all the supposed national recruits you told us they were now going to be getting so they are settling for instate recruits."

    This is not true, either. Utah has had better national success this year than I think they ever have. Of the 4 four-star recruits, only one of them is from Utah. One from Texas, one from Nevada and a JUCO from California.

    "But of course the best recruit in the state is going to BYU, same as last year."

    This is not true either. Fanaika was the best recruit in the state, and he went to Stanford. You got Hinds. Congratulations, he looks like a stellar defensive player. But BYU was still owned in in-state recruiting and so far nationally by us as well. And considering we're on the short list of 5 or 6 more four and five star recruits, there's no spin that needs to be put on it. Those numbers are looking pretty good for the Utah football program.

    ...."LOL!"

  • williary Kearns, UT
    Jan. 3, 2012 5:17 p.m.

    @Duckhunter

    One of these times your "facts" will actually be correct.

    2011 Recruiting Sites: Top Ranked Utah In-State Recruit

    Rivals - Matthews (BYU)
    ESPN - Langi (Utah)
    Scout - Langi (Utah)

    2012 Recruiting Sites: Top Ranked Utah State Recruit

    Rivals - Fanaika (Stanford)
    ESPN - Afalava (Washington/Nebraska)
    Scout - Hinds (BYU)

    By my Utah math count, out of those 6 ranked as the top in-state recruit over the last 2 years, BYU has 2, Utah has 2. Not exactly the picture you paint?

    While we're at it, 2011 Top 10 In-State Utah Recruits:

    Rivals - 5 to Utah, 3 to BYU
    ESPN - 4 to Utah, 4 to BYU
    Scout - 7 to BYU, 3 to Utah

    And 2012:

    Rivals - 4 to Utah, 2 to BYU
    ESPN - 6 to Utah, 1 to BYU
    Scout - 4 to Utah, 2 to BYU

    So to recap, and factually dispute your claims:

    Both Utah and BYU have picked up the top in-state recruit, just depends on the site.

    Utah is getting more of the top in-state talent, this year and last, not even close.

    Care to refute those facts?

  • UU32 Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 3, 2012 5:27 p.m.

    Duckhunter - I thought you didn't speculate or comment about which recruits are the best?

  • Stackhouse paradise, nv
    Jan. 3, 2012 5:29 p.m.

    Good pickup for Utah.

  • the hawk Sandy, UT
    Jan. 4, 2012 2:07 a.m.

    To willary and duckhunter, Not going to tell my particular team bias out there so no one will bash me... That being said. Utah gets the beast Chase Hansen, BYU gets Hinds. Previously Utah picked up Langi and his predecessor Shakerin. Byu has picked up lots of good in state talent especially from the Bingham/Alta area. All in all I'd say it looks pretty equal with maybe a slight edge to Utah. Now off topic, what ever happened to Alex Hart (the Jordan QB that came from the Alta program and chose USU) If not for the qb's coming in I'd say he'd be a great transfer pickup for either BYU or Utah. Other then his small size I'd say he would be a perfect fit. Moved on the ground like Nelson and threw like the BYU QB's of old. Definately a playmaker. Why aren't any of these two schools calling him?

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Jan. 4, 2012 8:37 a.m.

    @UU32

    I said I rarely comment on them and that is true. But if you'll read my post I'm not making any real comments about what kind of players they will be in college anyway, none of us know. My post is simply to point out utah "fan" hypocrisy and inconsistency and really doesn't have anything to do with the recruits themselves.

    As I said last year utah "fans" were telling us utah would no longer be signing many instate recruits because they aren't good enough and they are now a "national" program. But now we have utah "fans" bragging about signing more instate recruits than BYU. So my point is which way do utah "fans" want it?

    Are they no longer going to sign very many instate recruits because they aren't that good or are they going to sign the most instate recruits and they are good? You can't have it both ways.

    But as far as the quality of those individual players are concerned, well I haven't speculated on it at all. I haven't commented on it at all. Nor will I other than to say I think are are a lot of good D1 quality recruits here.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Jan. 4, 2012 9:01 a.m.

    And stgtoslc

    Fanaika came out the very next day and said he has not committed to stanford and still plans to take all of his visits. I personally have no idea what he will do, but at least according to him he is still undecided. I suppose we will find out for sure in the next few weeks.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Jan. 4, 2012 9:24 a.m.

    @williary

    What is it you want me to refute? I never said anything about how many recruits each school was getting each year or how good they were.

    I do notice you are trying to count langi twice however. LOL!

    I personally put very little stock in the star ratings. We have evidence of the arbitrary and overhyped nature of it from both teams just this season. On the BYU side Jake Heaps, the #1 qb recruit in the nation, never panned out and transferred. On the utah side langi never saw the field for anything resembling meaningful action and by all accounts didn't improve a bit this year. As you yourself told us langi was not just 1, but he was actually 2 of the top recruits in the state. LOL!

    And that is why I seldom comment about recruits and pretty much never speculate on how good any of them will be. Actually the only instate recruit this year I feel like I can make any sort of educated evaluation of is Chase Hansen who I have coached, and coached against, for the last 10 years. He is a stud of an athlete.

  • DevilishUte Tempe, AZ
    Jan. 4, 2012 9:34 a.m.

    Ducky,

    "I seldom comment about recruits and pretty much never speculate on how good any of them will be."

    Usually you follow that up with "all you care about is winning."

    54-10

  • UU32 Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 4, 2012 9:41 a.m.

    Duckhunter - any college football fan knows that Utah is a great place for football talent. Stanford, Nebraska, Oregon, USC, Cal - they've all made Utah high school football a priority. Everyone knows if you want to recruit a great interior lineman - go to Utah. We have great youth football programs, quality high school football and one of the larger polynesian populations in the country. Anyone who says Utah or BYU should stop recruiting Utah kids is nuts (Chris B). LSU flew into town in a private plane to visit Mr. Hines. Cooper Bateman has teams from the SEC, Big 10, Big 12, Pac 12, etc. etc. etc. all over him. You know all this.

    As far a BYU vs. Utah - BYU held the advantage for years. Now Utah, with its recent success, new facilities, Pac12 affiliation, and Coach Whit - has an edge. This is in general of course. With the lifelong BYU fan who wants the BYU experience more than anything else - BYU will always get those guys. But you have to admit - Utah football has never recruited as well as it has the last few years.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Jan. 4, 2012 10:04 a.m.

    @UU32

    But I never said anything contrary to any of that. Whether or not utah has "an edge" remains to be seen.

    @devlishute

    And that is all I care about. Just win baby.

  • Bleed Crimson Sandy, Utah
    Jan. 4, 2012 10:43 a.m.

    @ azjim

    "and Harline is still open"

    Burton is still unblocked

    and John White IV is still scoring touchdowns

  • DevilishUte Tempe, AZ
    Jan. 4, 2012 10:59 a.m.

    "Whether or not utah has "an edge" remains to be seen."

    Is winning 7 out of the last 10 considered having an edge?

  • Chewbacca Magna, UT
    Jan. 4, 2012 11:05 a.m.

    Ducky-

    You must have LOVED playing the weaklings of the WAC this year in football. Just win baby!

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    Jan. 4, 2012 12:31 p.m.

    As Boise State, TCU, Utah, Hawaii and Houston have proven over and over again, just winning doesn't get you the highest prize. You have to win against quality opponents. These days you have to be in a quality conference to get such opponents on your schedule. To win in a quality conference you have to have quality players.

    Utah coaches have proven their ability to select and recruit quality players, with or without stars next to their name. Remember, John White IV came in as a virtual unknown and has truly proven himself to be a top notch running back. As I look to the future I see Utah continuing to play quality opponents which will give quality players more reason to select Utah over other schools. Utah will also continue to win more than half of their games against those quality opponents which will bring bowl games and hopefully a national title one day. That will give even more incentive for quality players to come to Utah. I don't see a lot of negatives there.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    Jan. 5, 2012 2:52 p.m.

    RE: USNGary
    South Jordan, UT

    "By the time he gets off his mission he will not be going to Utah any more. Watch and see"

    You mean like Jake Murphy? ......

    Go Utes!!

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    Jan. 5, 2012 3:00 p.m.

    Welcome Vaha! You will be a welcome addition to the family!!

    Go Utes!

  • Go Utes Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 6, 2012 9:40 a.m.

    Congrats to Vainuku! Welcome to the Utes! You will love it. Football program aside (and I agree that it is the best in the state), the U is one of the best LDS campuses in the world. I loved my pre and post-mission experience at the U. Great religion classes, found my eternal companion, and loved life (still do) as a UTE!