2nd-year pro has career night to lead Utah in win
Jody have a good flight to San Antonio, bring us back a win to start the New
Year. Many stepped up tonight in the absence of AJ. Many people including me
have been a bit down on him but we need AJ. Still, it is good to have options.
I was happy (at least tonight) with Corbin. He went with 11 effectively. He
did not Punish I think so much Devon but pull him for a different look on
Holliday who was burning him and many others around the league also. Favors,
Kanter, Gordon, Millie and Harris had good games. CJ had his moments. Hope he
learned from the bonehead foul with :29 left that put Philly on the line.
Fortunately, Philly missed 3 of out 4 foul shots down the stretch. ANdre I 2
and Brand 1 for 2. The thing is Corbin coached well. Philadelphia is a good
young team and it took a good effort to beat them. Now we will see tomorrow how
far we have come, going into SA against those veteran Spurs and the play sets.
Patience and effort will be needed on D and to run offensively and make SA play
I think the Jazz would be better off without Jefferson on the team. He stops
the offense and play little defense. Favors plays hard. Jefferson does not.Harris needs to play hard all the time. Not take nights off.
It was nice to see good play from the core that makes up the Jazz' future.
Hayward, Kanter, Sap & Favors all looked good. Burks got a DNP
unfortunately. Harris also looked good for the Jazz, though not as a 1--he
really played best when acting like a 2. Howard was solid for us. He's a
legitimate player. As always, CJ & Bell were worthless. Not having Al in
the rotation was actually a real plus. The guy is a massive black hole on O
& too slow to be effective on D. The Jazz need to unload CJ/Raja/Al before
next season. Those guys are a net negative for the team.Most
competitive lineup right now (starter/backup): (1) Tinsley/Harris (2)
Hayward/Burks (3) Howard/CJ (4) Sap/Al (5) Favors/Kanter
I just realized tonight how BIG and THICK Derrick Favors is. He is filling out,
and all I could think about last night was, "This guy is going to be Dwight
Howard with a much better offensive game." Seriously, mark it down, the
Jazz won the DWill trade even if it was DWill for Favors straight up. Favors
will be BETTER THAN HOWARD (yes, I said that...BETTER THAN HOWARD) because
Favors is almost as good an athlete, almost as big, but actually has a jumpshot,
can make free throws, and has scary low post moves. Very excited about this
Ten-rour to your comment on Jefferson C.J., but your man Miles isn't the
sharpest tool in the shed for a veteran after 6 yrs and making dumb fouls like
at the end of last nights game. C.J. & Bell need to join Jefferson on that
flight out of town also! I'm hoping Ty will give more playing time to Burks(DNP
last night) and Evans when he can and that Howards physical conditioning will
allow him more minutes soon because he is going to be key for us this season.
Overall not too bad of a game by our youngsters considering whats went on this
year, so keep up the effort because without that you will never get better.
Jazz were lucky and just good enough...that's a winning combo they will probably
experience much more of this year. Good effort by many players. Great to see
Favors hit some jumpers and play big in the post. CJ: I disagree with you
that Jefferson doesn't play hard...I just think he is not a heady player and too
often doesn't pass out of situations when he can't get to the rim or get off a
balanced bank near the basket. I do agree he should be traded, but maybe he can
teach Favors a lot more while he's still around. Also, if Favors happens to get
hurt and with Fes no longer here, that would put too large a burden on Kanter.
The Jazz have a sound foundation with Favors and Kanter. There are big problems
with the rest. Sap has always played hard. Jefferson is expendable. It is
obvious. Harris had three assists as the PG. He is not the team leader as
supposed. The Jazz need to clean house of the remnants from problems with
D-Will and go on to bigger and better things. The primary focus should be on
obtaining a team leader at PG. The pieces are starting to fall into place.
They just need to have the guts to "pull the trigger" now.
Congradulations to coach Corbin and the Jazz. It was good to see them play hard
and get the win in their home opener. The Jazz looked much better out there
tonight than in the two priors. Heres some observations:Derek Favors
is the real deal! Yes and I agree if the trade was straight up Favors for D Will
we come out ahead in the long run. Favors can play either the 4 or the 5. We
probably need him more at the 5 so him and Milsap are not competing for
minutes.Gordon Hayward can play any of 3 positions but preferriblly
the two. He has excellent court vision, good passing skills, plays defense and
is one if not thee best outside shooter on the team. Was very instrumental in
the win last night.Josh Howard will be an important part to this
teams success. He is still a baller.Kanter is not a bust.Devin Harris had one heck of a 2nd quarter it was good to see Corbin sit him
down which lead to Harris showing us what he can really do when he returned. C J needs to play alot smarter.
I love our young players!!! Tire of watching Bell and Miles. Would love to see a
Big man rotation of Jefferson 28-30 min, Millsap 28-30 min and a combo of Favors
and Kantor 30-36. Start Favors and if he gets in foul trouble give the time to
Kanter. If Jefferson doesn't give effort on Defense cut his minutes and let
Favors gaurd the center who usually isn't as good offensively. I'd love a lineup
of Favors/Milsap or Jefferson depending on match up/Howard/Hayward/Harris Second
unit Kantor/Milsap or Jefferson/Miles/Burks/Watson. With Miles getting the least
Funny I did not hear anyone say that Bell should get more minutes. And CJ this
team would be better off without CJ..
Perhaps Big Al should come off the bench instead of Millsap. While he might
take a shot to his pride, he would be instant offense off the bench, and it
would create major problems for other teams. Manu Ginobili did it for years,
and it was incredibly effective.
CJ has shown us what he can and will do already...Jazz should make a move. He is
only capable of erratic play. Big Al still has a place, maybe off the bench.Raja is a nice guy but he should join CJ in a sudden trade...he is not
championship material either. Nice play for the rest...who are exciting the Jazz
fans with last nights play. It was nice to see Corbin up off the bench doing his
stuff. Good work coach. Now, go down there and spoil our nemesis.
Let`s not get crazy here,Jefferson,needs to learn how to play a team
game,passing can be learned/or taught,he`s got nice o,and can rebound,Favors is
still a project,will be up and down,Raja and especially miles bring nothing
,need to go,the sooner the better,give their time to Burks,Hayward and
Howard,our future is Millsap,Jefferson,Hayward,Burks,maybe Evans/Kanter
Question: What other GM would actually accept Bell in any kind of trade? His
contract is probably a poison pill. We need to stay accustomed to his presence.
He is not going anywhere.
Trading CJ would be good for CJ but not the Jazz. They already lack scoring as
a team. His 10 points was the best of the bench last night. Stop the Burkes
talk. There is a reason he did not play last night. You want to talk trade,
talk Bell. He brings zero to the team.Jefferson plays hard? Thats
a joke. If he played hard, he would play defense. You don't have to be smart to
guard your man and defend the lane. You just have to move your feet and play
Bell is a total waste of money and roster space.Jefferson was a
salary dump for the t-wolves, and should become one for the Jazz.Miles will never be more than he is, ever.This year should be all
about giving the young guys experience, not about winning, and minutes given to
AJ, Bell and CJ are wasted minutes.
You can't find a cheaper deal than what the Jazz have in CJ for his return on
The Jazz should've stepped up for Matthews when they had the chance and dumped
CJ on the spot. CJ will never be what Matthews became in one year.
I love the Jazz. They got their first win vs a lottery team. Getting blown out
by the Lakers and Nuggets is no shame for this team. Ty doesn't have the tools
to beat the better teams in the league. 1 win 2 losses is about all we can
expect at this early juncture. I am not going to rag on any of the Jazz
players. It is what it is and let's get used to it. Stick with the team. The
players are getting used to each other. Don't bale out on us you fair weather
fans. A 25% shortened season will be difficult enough. Just enjoy it fans.
Get off of CJ, Raja, et. al. They are okay. If they need to play somewhen else
O'Connor and the coaches will figure it out. Go Jazz.
CJ: you're right about players needing to move their feet and be committed to
stopping their man to play defense, but it's more that that. There is
anticipation involved, too, which may be characterized as part of basketball IQ
and a certain amount of quickness and discipline, too. I have not seen those
skills too much in either big Al or CJ for that matter. Too me, Al is a lot like
Boozer, since they both can play power forward and center and they both have a
broad offensive repertoire and both play too much matador defense, but I have
always liked Paul more than Al or Carlos because Paul plays both ways. You can't
tell me, though, that Al doesn't work up a big sweat out there trying.
CJ is as lazy as Al. They both think there is only one side of the court. The
bigger question is this:Is it Basketball IQ or bad coaching with
defensive on top of the laziness?
Anonymous Infinity Best post of the season.