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BYU football: Brandon Doman takes inventory of first year as OC

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  • tcom2011 Fort Worth, TX
    Dec. 22, 2011 4:20 p.m.

    Doman we all knew there would be a learning curve, good job on growing and leading, we all wish Jake would have stayed and red shirted, but unfortunately he did not. Don't beat yourself up about anything this year, all in all you have done a fine job I think and I am sure it will continue to improve. Best of luck

  • Hawk Littleton, CO
    Dec. 22, 2011 4:21 p.m.

    Yes, Brandon has improved as the year progressed. It's a shame that Jake became the collateral damage. Never have heard Brandon suggest that maybe HE bears some of the blame for "Jakes" early season problems....

  • bballjunkie Pleasant Grove, UT
    Dec. 22, 2011 4:23 p.m.

    Your best QB transfered= (F)

    Go Kansas!

  • crowntown1 Corona, CA
    Dec. 22, 2011 4:31 p.m.

    Just out of curiosity why would a program like BYU who eats sleeps their football give the keys of their offense to a has been QB with little to no OFF Coordinating experience? I mean he's coaching for what a few years and he's ready? you guys keep everything so internally that you miss out on better candidates and coaches.

  • 54-10 Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 22, 2011 4:41 p.m.

    Scored 10 points on Utah, barely beat USU and lost to every other descent team but creamed the lower half of the WAC - A+.

  • catram North Las Vegas, NV
    Dec. 22, 2011 4:58 p.m.

    C.

  • truecoug1 Provo, UT
    Dec. 22, 2011 5:10 p.m.

    @54-10

    Or you can look at it as a 9-3 record, top 50 in total offense in the 1st year of him taking over (#41 this year, 25 spots up from last year), and a guy that has a team who can put up more than 14 points against 2 win teams and actually beat them...yeah, I'd say A+ is about right.

    Go Cougars!

  • BYUfaninWashSt Everett, WA
    Dec. 22, 2011 5:11 p.m.

    Spin Spin Spin ... hype hype hype. Don't be fooled again. Doman offensive play calling is completely predictable and boring. Our coaches cannot conceive of an offense where the pass "sets up the run." Bronco & Doman were not around when we had some truly great offensive minds and they will NEVER approach Edwards/Doug Scovil/Ted Tollner/Mike Holmgren/ abilities. That's not to say it can't be done. Ex-BYU student and new WSU coach Mike Leach gets it. Beating up on extremely poor competition does not prove play calling ability or anything close to it. Sorry Brandon & Bronco. Suggesting you didn't have the QB's to execute is really bad excuse ... your offensive play calling started poorly and continues ... you just have had zero competition after being exposed with losses to average opponents.

  • 3grandslams Iowa City, IA
    Dec. 22, 2011 5:21 p.m.

    Brandon is a great individual. He will succeed and be a hot commodity in not too many years.

  • cdchttrtn meridian, idaho
    Dec. 22, 2011 5:40 p.m.

    Replace him. D+ is probably better than he deserves...

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    Dec. 22, 2011 5:43 p.m.

    I think Doman's self assessment is accurate. I think he'll be fine will get even better next year. I do think that BYU needs to hire a QB coach, though. Has anyone asked Detmer?

    I know Doman is torn up about Jake and does feel some responsibility for Jake's, but I think he will be pleased with what he sees in Spring camp.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    Dec. 22, 2011 5:49 p.m.

    Sheesh. I think I snoozed through my last comment. Here's the corrected post:

    I think Doman's self assessment is accurate. I think he'll be fine and will get even better next year. I do think that BYU needs to hire a QB coach, though. Has anyone asked Detmer?

    I know Doman is torn up about Jake and does feel some responsibility for Jake's troubles early in the season, but I think he will be pleased with what he sees in Spring camp.

    Doman is a good guy. He's honest, humble, good leader, and very down-to-earth. I know the players really like him.

  • Teddy Bear Las Vegas, NV
    Dec. 22, 2011 7:29 p.m.

    QB coach definitely needed.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Dec. 22, 2011 7:53 p.m.

    54-10

    Sorry, dude, we're no longer accepting comments from folks still stuck in September. You whine about the patsies we beat because it hurts too much to cry about the patsies that beat U.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Dec. 22, 2011 8:00 p.m.

    Doman will get very good then the Utes will hire him! Happened twice before!

  • AllSeeingEye Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 22, 2011 10:41 p.m.

    I'm with Y Grad / Y Dad --

    No more comments from folks still stuck in September . . . .

    and no more comments from folks still stuck in 1984.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Dec. 22, 2011 10:47 p.m.

    I agree with idablue. Cougs need to hire a QB coach. This will allow Doman to focus on his role as OC. Maybe in 3 - 5 years, with some experience under his belt, Doman will be able to manage both jobs. But for now, he needs to focus more attention on offensive strategy and play calling, and bring in someone else to work with and develop the QBs. In 2013, we will be back to young, inexperienced QBs again.

  • Ville Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 23, 2011 12:58 a.m.

    I remember well when at the end of the Chow era, everyone was calling for him to move on. He's probably glad he did....NCST and coaching Philip Rivers, USC and we don't need to say anthing else. In more recent times, everyone wanted to run out Robert Anae, so how did that work out getting Doman to be the OC. I'm sure time will be kind when he gets some experience. Still, we have the best WR's in years to play here and we have a lousy offense this year against a not hard schedule. That = a C grade for the OC and the QB. Not sure how that will change except the schedule is weak again so the Cougs should win 10 games again, which is nothing to brag about given the oompetition they play.

  • Wayne Rout El Paso, TX
    Dec. 23, 2011 5:07 a.m.

    I'm sure he has done his Home Teaching, but not his preparation to assume this job. Doman should resign or request reassignment. There was nothing creative in the BYU offense this year and he lost his best quarterback. Were I Heaps, I would have left last spring after it became obvious that there was no plan and before Doman took an excellent player and converted him into something much less. How many others will he drive away? It's good that Bronco loves walk-ons...that's what he may have at quarterback in the4 future.

  • Y Grad Pumping Gas Beaver, UT
    Dec. 23, 2011 7:38 a.m.

    Pre skybox = F

    Post skybox = C+

    QB Management = F-

    Supporting the team by wearing T shirt = F

    Overall "Band AID of Brothers"

  • Barney Google Beaver, UT
    Dec. 23, 2011 7:50 a.m.

    @AllSeeingEye

    "and no more comments from folks still stuck in 1984."

    Clunk, Clunk, Clunk . . . thats Mr. Peabody working on his Wayback Machine. It seems to be stuck on 1984!

    Band of Lil Brothers forever

  • BYUfaninWashSt Everett, WA
    Dec. 23, 2011 9:04 a.m.

    Y Grad Pumping Gas

    Would have recommended your comment ...

    however, your Post skybox grade C+ needs to be C- ...

    Otherwise you're right on.

  • Juice Box Eureka, UT
    Dec. 23, 2011 9:45 a.m.

    First year inventory:

    1- Lost the "greatest" QB BYU has ever had.
    2- Learned to watch the field from the press box, but only because the media bugged him about it.
    3- In the process have a QB take Hypes' spot whom you really don't care to work with.

    Yea... successful I guess.

  • So. Cal Reader San Diego, CA
    Dec. 23, 2011 9:48 a.m.

    I still think Doman is in way over his head, and Coach Bronco has made more than a significant commitment to Doman in elevating him to OC. But this is a very insightful article. Glad to read that Doman feels the same way as many Cougs fans in assessing his first season. A strong victory over Tulsa would be a great way to end a long season.

  • fan in orem Orem, Utah
    Dec. 23, 2011 10:22 a.m.

    All Haters: F

    Get a life, enjoy your own team, if you have one. If you have something useful to say, come on over and say it, but quit wasting everyone's time with inane comments.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    Dec. 23, 2011 10:49 a.m.

    @Juice Box
    "Lost the 'greatest' QB BYU has ever had."

    Based on?. . . .what?
    What a ridiculous statement.
    It seems there are a lot of Trolls out who are very concerned about BYU's coaches. More so than actual BYU fans. Thanks for your concern little brothers but we'll be just fine. Run along now and go play with your marbles. It seems like you've lost a few.

  • EdGrady Idaho Falls, ID
    Dec. 23, 2011 12:04 p.m.

    Let's be honest - the guy is in over his head. Bring in an experienced OC, and maybe Doman can be his protege.

  • Cougs4Life Gilbert, AZ
    Dec. 23, 2011 2:01 p.m.

    Seems that Doman agrees that he has been a little overwhelmed this year, he really needs to focus on being the OC and letting someone else coach the QBs.

    Interesting that Heaps chose Kansas. The Jayhawks aren't that big an improvement as a program, but C. Weiss has the potential to develop him to be a valid pro-prospect. If Heaps had another coach focused on his development in reading defenses and making decisions instead of trying to figure out how to be an OC for the first time, perhaps he wouldn't have felt the need to find a new coach to help him achieve what he wants to.

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Dec. 23, 2011 2:33 p.m.

    54-10

    Offense ranked #110 in the nation and no Qb's to even speak of. 17-14 HAHAAHAHAA

  • Juice Box Eureka, UT
    Dec. 23, 2011 2:34 p.m.

    truecoug1 | 5:10 p.m. Dec. 22, 2011
    Provo, UT

    Dude, your team is in the WAC. Record numbers don't mean much when you beat cream puffs and lose to EVERY team that is somewhat decent. I'd give him a D-. I would have given him an F but he actually went to the press box...

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Dec. 23, 2011 2:49 p.m.

    Memo to Utesie trolls

    #110 ranked offense
    One good offensive player
    7-5 4-5 in conf.
    3 blowouts
    Loss at HOME to a 2 win team

    Entire coaching staff grade F-
    Now your OC is gone, can't wait to see how prolific your mighty "offense" is next season.

  • Just Wondering... Gilbert, AZ
    Dec. 23, 2011 3:16 p.m.

    @AllSeeingEye

    I assume that we won't hear any more about 2004 and 2008 (which happen to both be in the past as well) anymore will we?

  • BYU Joe MISSION VIEJO, CA
    Dec. 23, 2011 3:43 p.m.

    Agree we need a QB coach:

    There is a great young coach who is living in Texas that understand the position as well as any and would fit the role perfectly - Ty Detmer. No go find him and bring him home.

    Agree Doman is learning:

    Yeah so what - so did Edwards and Chow back in the day as well as every other coach ever. The ball moved and they are getting better and better. The future remains "Bright Blue"

    Disagree on Heaps:

    The guy never showed any judgement or leadership. He could not get a play off in less than 23 seconds. I am certain the people that advise him lack "reason and accountability" (Quote from As Good as it Get's - if you need a reference to understand this comment.)

    BYU is a mature team with mature players - This is only Year A.I. 1 (As Independent) - lets talk about this season in AI 3 - when we see where we are - there is a lot of room to become great and immature QB's will come and go.

    Always an upside as long as there is interest - More people watching BYU play Idaho that Utes watching them play UCLA -

  • Juice Box Eureka, UT
    Dec. 23, 2011 4:24 p.m.

    idablu,

    Cute statement.

    All I've heard the past two years is how great Jake Hypes will be. What a bust that was.

    BYU needs an OC with more experience, and I cannot wait to hear about the next hyped up player or coach that goes to BYU, it's something BYU is good at doing- hyping.

  • ouisc Farmington, UT
    Dec. 23, 2011 5:01 p.m.

    There's no question Doman was in over his head this season. And I'm glad to read that he practically admits as much. It makes me sad that his inexperience has led to some players and their families having to relocate.

    Riley Nelson is more gritty than talented, and grit often hides coaching errors, so there is no question that Riley is the right man for BYU while Doman tries to figure things out, and there is no question it is best for Jake Heaps to move forward where he can grow and develop into an NFL-caliber QB.

  • Ares SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Dec. 23, 2011 5:18 p.m.

    Doman is probably a better tool for other teams than he is to his own. It took forever to get the offense going this year. He better think of a more efficient plan for next year.

  • 54-10 Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 23, 2011 6:51 p.m.

    Getting a rise out of Cougar fan = too easy.

  • So. Cal Reader San Diego, CA
    Dec. 23, 2011 10:59 p.m.

    Re: 54-10 "Getting a rise out of Cougar fan = too easy." Agree, because you'd have to try too hard to find something positive out of Utes sports this season. But no worries, I understand women's gymnastics will dominate again this year. Go, Lady Utes! :o) Can't wait to watch the beauty you guys are about to play in .... El Paso .... in the winter time. Enjoy!

  • joecoog North Las Vegas, NV
    Dec. 23, 2011 11:00 p.m.

    54-10 you are on a byu board so apparently something the cougars did got a rise out of you- too easy

  • Ares Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 24, 2011 9:56 a.m.

    54-10 | 6:51 p.m. Dec. 23, 2011
    Salt Lake City, UT

    Point proven by the two posts under you.

    Priceless.

  • 4601 Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 24, 2011 11:15 a.m.

    Y Grad Pumping Gas | 7:38 a.m. Dec. 23, 2011
    Most stations are self-serve. Move to Oregon which requires an attendant to pump gas and you will fit in well as an Oregon St. football consultant.