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Brad Rock: Norm Chow showed he's got game during difficult Ute season

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  • 79Ute Orange County, CA
    Dec. 20, 2011 6:38 p.m.

    Congrats...and nuts!

  • MLH SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Dec. 21, 2011 1:13 a.m.

    It's been great to see what he could this year with the players we had. Year two would have been great to have had him around. But, for as good as he has been and being the part of some very good programs he never really got his shot. He has it now and with Hawaii moving into the MWC it will be fun to see how he does.

    It's been fun for me to be able to tell people that I was on the team where he had his very first coaching job, East Mity Mites 1969. that sure and the heck dates me.

    Good luck coach in Hawaii

  • djkorm SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Dec. 21, 2011 3:24 a.m.

    All the best to Norm Chow!!! He's a class act!!!

  • Old Gregg Alpine, UT
    Dec. 21, 2011 6:22 a.m.

    I bet the utes are relieved....

  • 17-14 Hurts Don't It? Springville, UT
    Dec. 21, 2011 6:45 a.m.

    Oh, how quickly they forget...

    Yep, when you lose your star QB and have no one to turn to.

    When you've lost 4 games in a row.

    When you lose to one of the absolute worse teams in your conference, at the same time you lose the South Division title, the championship game and let's don't forget the parade in Pasadena.

    And now they're losing him too.

    Yes, it was a difficult Ute season.

    Hat's off to a turn around season but it sure fell short of expectations. Just like last year.

  • DEW Cougars Sandy, UT
    Dec. 21, 2011 7:31 a.m.

    Utah, now you can pick up Gary Crowton. Will Norm Chow going to be OC just like Bronco M. as DC?

  • Silent Lurker Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 21, 2011 7:43 a.m.

    Good Luck coach Chow. You'll be missed at Utah and do well in Hawaii. Thanks for this season we wish it were more but understand your position.

  • TheNun Granstville, UT
    Dec. 21, 2011 7:46 a.m.

    Hurtz Donut in Springville talks about the Utes season falling short and going on about what a wasted year Utah had. All the while believing BYU had a great year because they won 8 games against a jv shcedule and will play a no name team in the Armed Forces Bowl.

    But the reality is they are 0-3 against teams that play varsity football, with the sweetest score being 54-10. How's that for falling short?

  • ChiefSportsFan Denver, CO
    Dec. 21, 2011 7:47 a.m.

    Have always liked Norm Chow. Here's wishing him all the best!

  • Shawnm750 West Jordan, UT
    Dec. 21, 2011 8:57 a.m.

    Best wishes to Coach Chow! Go Utes!

  • MLH SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Dec. 21, 2011 9:13 a.m.

    @17-14

    Way to show that classy side of a cougar fan.

  • Utes Fan Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 21, 2011 9:25 a.m.

    @17-14 Hurts Don't It?
    Hat's off to a turn around season but it sure fell short of expectations. Just like last year.
    --------

    Funny how it works out. A disappointing loss to Colorado to be sure, but Utah ends up with the best bowl game outside of the 2 BCS bowls they have ever been to - 3rd best bowl in the history of the program.

    I'll take it.

    Good luck, Chow.

  • So. Cal Reader San Diego, CA
    Dec. 21, 2011 10:38 a.m.

    I'm wondering if he "has" game or he "had" game? Hope this works out for him because I know it's something he's wanted for a long time. But that's the key, he's wanted this position for sooooo long. It's probably 10-15 years too late. What has he done as an OC since 2007, after leaving USC? His collegiate offenses since then have been far from what they were previously. Also, since leaving USC, name one college quarterback who's playing in the NFL? But if Hawaii feels he can be the new face of their football program at his advanced age, so be it.

  • Boston Spanish Fork, UT
    Dec. 21, 2011 11:03 a.m.

    Concerning the couple of BYU fans commenting on this board: You are a perfect example of the typical hypocrite in so many ways. Congratulations Norm! Go AGGIES! Go UTES! Go WILDCATS!, and yes go byu, but not really.

  • The_Kaiser Holladay, UT
    Dec. 21, 2011 11:13 a.m.

    Utah Coordinators: Where Presidents come to recruit Head Coaches.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Dec. 21, 2011 11:16 a.m.

    @boston

    How are the BYU fans comments "hypocritical"? Do you know what "hypocrite" even means?

  • Civil Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 21, 2011 11:42 a.m.

    I'm getting sooooooooo tired of negative comments on here, from all sides. Get lives. Grow up.

    Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.
    Jesus of Nazareth

    Your negative comments flow from your negative lives, and yet, it is the negative attitude that creates those lives to begin with.

    You know who you are.

    Stop it. Now.

  • Boston Spanish Fork, UT
    Dec. 21, 2011 11:52 a.m.

    @Duckhunter

    In Duckhunter terms, it means to say one thing and than do the other. Your 17-14 friend is full of hypocrisy; taking direct aim at celebrating ill toward a bigger brother. Wishing congratulations to the individual would have sufficed, and that alone would further the byu way.

  • So. Cal Reader San Diego, CA
    Dec. 21, 2011 12:02 p.m.

    Re: Utes Fan "Utah ends up with the best bowl game outside of the 2 BCS bowls they have ever been to - 3rd best bowl in the history of the program. I'll take it."

    Huh? I would hope other Trolls don't agree with you. 3rd best bowl in the history of your program? I'll let you take El Paso in the winter time. Feliz Navidad, mis amigos!

    Re: Civil-- I'm sorry, Dad! I'll try to be better. :-)

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Dec. 21, 2011 12:07 p.m.

    So Cal, do you follow football much? Pretty sure Norm left SC a bit before 07 and coached up some kid named Philip Rivers, although not sure the name would mean much to you. Congrats and good luck, you'll be missed here, Coach.

  • So. Cal Reader San Diego, CA
    Dec. 21, 2011 12:31 p.m.

    Re: StGtoSLC "So Cal, do you follow football much? Pretty sure Norm left SC a bit before 07 and coached up some kid named Philip Rivers." Some clarification needed:

    NC State: 2000
    USC: 2001-04
    Titans (NFL): 2005-07
    UCLA: 2008-10

    He coached Rivers his senior year. By then Rivers was a 5th year senior and was a bowl MVP each year from his freshman year on up. He was already slated for the NFL (we love him in San Diego) & was before Chow was at UCS. The point I'm making is how many QB's has he developed since leaving USC? None.

  • Europe Topeno, Finland
    Dec. 21, 2011 12:51 p.m.

    Norm, good luck, and do well!

    Norm has always been a great guy! I wish him all the best! Just miss seeing him jogging from the Fieldhouse to the Lake and back...

  • supainthehills Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 21, 2011 1:50 p.m.

    I couldn't be happier that Norm is getting his shot at being a head coach. I was so tired of his predictable play calling towards the end of his career at BYU...it was so awful. However, I couldn't be happier for him and the success that he's had since he moved on.

    Having lived in Hawaii, I know that they'll LOVE having a 'local' boy leading the Warriors. Norm will do a great job keeping more top tier home grown talent on the islands. I think he'll also be able to do a really good job getting kids from the mainland over to the islands as long as UH gives him a decent recruiting budget...something that June Jones never had the luxury of working with and one of the main reasons he left for SMU.

    Congratulations, Coach Chow! Not only do you get to live in what I consider the most beautiful place in the world, but I have absolute confidence that you'll make the most out of the opportunity!! Do Hawaii proud!! Aloha

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Dec. 21, 2011 2:26 p.m.

    @boston

    "Taking direct aim at celebrating ill will" doesn't make a single bit of sense although I think I get what you're trying, and failing, to say. But that isn't "hypocrisy". You need to get a Webster's and check it next time.

    If he had "wished ill will" while publicly congratulating then that might be considered hypocrisy although that doesn't even really fit the definition. Here is the actual definition:

    Hypocrisy - feigning to be what one is not

    Now nowhere in 17-14's post did he "feign to be what he is not". To the contrary he obviously and openly mocked utah "fans" and the utah program. Really he was just being completely honest about his feelings. Nothing hypocritical about that.

    Now you could call him 'classless' if you would like and that might be accurate although I really doubt he cares if you call him that. I know I wouldn't care.

  • uteca LOS ANGELES, CA
    Dec. 21, 2011 3:12 p.m.

    RE: He coached Rivers his senior year. By then Rivers was a 5th year senior and was a bowl MVP each year from his freshman year on up. He was already slated for the NFL (we love him in San Diego) & was before Chow was at UCS.

    Get your facts straight. Chow coached Rivers his freshman year. Chow's offense was a big reason how well Rivers played his first year in college. In fact, when Chow left, Head Coach Amato insisted that the new Offensive Coordinator continue with Chow's offensive schemes. There is no denying Chow's influence in Rivers development.

  • So. Cal Reader San Diego, CA
    Dec. 21, 2011 3:42 p.m.

    Re: uteca. Excuse me. I stand corrected. I agree with you that "there is no denying Chow's influence" with Rivers .... for 1 year. How can you state Norm Chow's influence on a redshirt Freshman is what did the trick. Chow contributed. No doubt about that... for 1 year. So, other than Phillip Rivers, who Chow coached 2000, who else has he developed into an NFL? Chow was a genious of an offensive mind. But so many people, the media as well, get caught up in "what was." His offensive personnel and schemes at UCLA were far, far from the glory years at BYU, USC, oh and 1 year at North Carolina State. Aloha.

  • oldcougar Orem, UT
    Dec. 21, 2011 5:52 p.m.

    Norm Chow will do very well in Hawaii! What a wonderful chance for him to be a head coach. Good article!

    Some of you other Cougars ought to go duck hunting.

  • 17-14 Hurts Don't It? Springville, UT
    Dec. 21, 2011 7:45 p.m.

    'Girlse' I already wished Norm good luck and a happy Hawaii retirement on another article. You need to follow things a little closer. Try harder will you?

    The title of the article is... "Norm Chow showed he's got game during difficult Ute season"

    So losing a QB and having no backup = "got game"

    Losing 4 games in a row = "got game"

    Losing to the Buffs = "got game"

    Losing the South Division and a shot at the championship game = "got game"

    I just think the headline is stretching it a little with the forgotten facts of the Ute season.

    Is that clear 'girlse'?

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Dec. 22, 2011 8:50 a.m.

    "So, other than Phillip Rivers, who Chow coached 2000, who else has he developed into an NFL?"

    This is still a pretty thin argument. He's only been in the college game for 4 years since turning Matt Leinart into a 1st round pick (which, with every game he plays in the NFL, looks like more and more of an incredible management of a player). That's like saying in any single 4 year stretch while he was at BYU that he did not produce an NFL QB he was unsuccessful.

    "His offensive personnel and schemes at UCLA were far, far from the glory years"

    Possibly because they were not his personnel and schemes, they were Neuheisel's. He was little more than a play-caller (and only when Rick let him call plays) while at UCLA.

  • uteca LOS ANGELES, CA
    Dec. 22, 2011 2:19 p.m.

    "So, other than Phillip Rivers, who Chow coached 2000, who else has he developed into an NFL?"

    Chow had 3 years at UCLA. I followed that program very closely and he didn't have much to work with. In his first year, UCLA's starting and backup QB went down. The backup-backup QB was some walk-on. Injuries were all of over the place because UCLA never really had an O-line protecting their QBs.

    "His offensive personnel and schemes at UCLA were far, far from the glory years"

    Right on. UCLA went to the pistol offense his 3rd year there. How you expect him to switch his entire coaching philosophy and be successful? UCLA didn't even have a QB that can even run that well.

    Basically, he never really had a chance to succeed at UCLA. Just look at what happened to UCLA this year. That program is a mess.