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  • rickski13 salt lake city, utah
    Dec. 11, 2011 6:57 a.m.

    Is byu really playing at 10am on a friday?

  • NeilT Clearfield, UT
    Dec. 11, 2011 7:02 a.m.

    Three bowl games matching 6 and six teams. What a joke. Counted 11 six win teams in bowls. Unbelievable. ASU in a bowl with six wins. It's time to scrap this antiquated bowl system and invite the top 16 teams to play for a national championship. The Beef O' Brady bowl. Can't wait for that one. Not.

    Go Aggies. If anyone deserves a bowl invite USU does.

  • NeilT Clearfield, UT
    Dec. 11, 2011 7:14 a.m.

    How did I miss 6-7 UCLA in a bowl. One more indictement of the ridiculous bowl system. A bowl game should be earned. A reward for an excellent season.

  • Where's Stockton ??? Bowling Green, OH
    Dec. 11, 2011 9:04 a.m.

    Boy TCU...Boise State...and Southern Miss really got left out in the cold this year. Someone should have seen the discrepancies and at least replaced (7-5) Nevada with either (10-2)TCU or (11-1) Boise State up against (11-2) Southern Miss. This is a real good example how conference alliances with Bowls really interferes with logic and sensibility. Instead we wind up with 3 badly misaligned bowls instead of probably only one...depending on how Louisiana comes out in the wash. If they were to match L.Tech. with AZ State they would of at least brought some of the logic back. Hope some day we end these conference bowl alliances. They're the biggest problem in College football.

  • Where's Stockton ??? Bowling Green, OH
    Dec. 11, 2011 9:20 a.m.

    Sorry that's Louisiana Tech...

  • eagle Provo, UT
    Dec. 11, 2011 9:34 a.m.

    Boise lost two games by a combined four points (one of those in OT) but have been relegated to the Vegas Bowl twice while VA Tech goes to the Sugar Bowl, the same VA Tech team that lost to Clemson twice this season, the same VA Tech team that Boise beat two seasons ago. What is funny about all these BCS conferences is that when they do play Boise they can't actually beat Boise including Oregon twice, Oregon State, OU, VA Tech and Georgia this season.

    I agree that's it is a time for a 16- team tournament which invites the champion from all conferences that play the highest division of football. That would be 11 conference teams and five at-large programs. Heck, you could keep some of the bowls, like the NIT in basketball, for other deserving programs that didn't quite make the tournament but as also suggested above, end the conference tie-ins and use common sense and logic to create interesting bowl match-ups.

  • kokua KAYSVILLE, UT
    Dec. 11, 2011 11:44 a.m.

    UCLA really ? With a 6-7 losing record in a bowl game that is all jacked up.

    Stanford & Oklahoma State should be playing for the national crown, they are the schools with the best records in the Nation.

  • eagle Provo, UT
    Dec. 11, 2011 12:32 p.m.

    kokua:

    LSU hasn't lost a game. Bama has the same record as Okie State and Stanford, not that either isn't more deserving per se but just stating a fact. Further, Houston and Boise State also have one-loss or basically identical 11-1 records. One could further argue at Boise has much more of a consistent winning record in this decade than all of those progams, even Bama.

  • fan29 Cedar Hills, UT
    Dec. 11, 2011 1:14 p.m.

    It's time to put a lot of these bowls to bed. Get rid of them. When teams with 6 & 6 records get invites to bowls we have to many bowls. Even the teams with 7 & 5 records shouldn't qualify. Oh, and then you let a bowl invite UCLA with a losing record. It's time for a playoff system!!!

  • Vince the boonies, mexico
    Dec. 11, 2011 1:53 p.m.

    Scrap these no-nothing bowls and the teams that play in them. Nothing more than the greeds trying to jerk the last dollars out of fans pockets. What a sham. It's December and basketball time, enough of football!

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Dec. 11, 2011 3:00 p.m.

    "Is byu really playing at 10am on a friday?"

    rickski13 - they really are.

  • Noblepromise PROVO, UT
    Dec. 11, 2011 3:37 p.m.

    As a fan I desire that BYU be able to play the best teams in the respective sports and hopefully win and in turn earn the respect of opposing teams, sports media and college pollsters. This 9-3 season in a PAC12, Big12, Big10, SEC, Big East, or ACC conference would have had a top 25 ranking by the different pollster rankings and playing in a better (payout and competition) postseason bowl than this one. Playing an independent schedule that had a majority of the schedule of teams from MWC/WAC conference didn't get BYU any respect this year beyond playing on ESPN network. Hopefully BYU scheduler upgrades the future schedules so a majority of the games in the year are from teams in those PAC12, Big12, Big10, SEC, Big East, or ACC conferences. BYU should win against is CUSA opponent, but being ranked in the final postseason rankings probably won't happen regardless of game outcome.

  • Portland Beavers SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Dec. 11, 2011 4:07 p.m.

    Noblepromise

    First off if byu would have played a PAC-12, Big-12 scedule they would not have been 9-3. The play in those two conferences is so superior to what the y played. You guys had your chance to get into a better conference didn't get an invite though. True you have a better schedule next year but that is about as good as it gets. Nobody can play you after Sept.

  • ClarkHippo Tooele, UT
    Dec. 11, 2011 4:13 p.m.

    Here are some new rules I would like to see in regards to the college football post-season.

    - Get rid of one-third of the bowl games. The only people interested in bowl games between two teams with 6-6 records are the fans and students from those schools.

    - No college team can be bowl eligible unless they have a winning season. (i.e. UCLA)

    - Include a four team playoff with the two semi-final games played the week after the conference championship games. That way the semi-final losers can still play in a bowl game.

  • Riddles in the Dark Olympus Cove, Utah
    Dec. 11, 2011 4:45 p.m.

    Portland Beavers

    "First off if byu would have played a PAC-12, Big-12 scedule they would not have been 9-3."

    If BYU had played Utah's schedule, the Cougars might very well have been 10-2. With the exception of USC, there's not a team on Utah's schedule that the Cougars wouldn't have had a very good chance of beating.

  • Noblepromise PROVO, UT
    Dec. 11, 2011 5:14 p.m.

    As BYU alumni and Cougar club member, I recognize this season, Utah football is better than BYU as it was clearly shown in BYU loss at home against Utah. Likewise playing in a PAC12 caliber conference, instead of being an independent, gets more recognition from sports media and college coaches who do the weekly rankings.Y fans kid themselves if they think playing a schedule where the majority of teams that are primarily from MWC/WAC is weighted the same as playing the teams from the PAC12 conference. The weekly pollster rankings show otherwise that difference regardless if BYU wins against the MWC/WAC opponent and had a 9-3 season prior to a bowl game. Didn't BYU go independent of MWC because it wanted to be eligible for a BCS bowl and BCS caliber conference which in turn would mean more sports revenue and recognition for Y sports? Texas has ESPN contract and is still in the Big12. I would think ESPN wants BYU in a BCS caliber conference instead of being independent and playing a schedule like this year.

  • GoGetter Sandy, UT
    Dec. 11, 2011 5:27 p.m.

    Riddles in the Dark,

    Where's your proof?

    The only proof I see is a big "L" next to every team that has a winning record on the Cougies' schedule.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Dec. 11, 2011 5:27 p.m.

    @portland beavers

    1st of all noblepromise is one of your fellow utah trolls. He has about 50 other screen names including kosta fesenko, articuno BYU, duckhunter hunter, officer coolguy, slcBYUfan, and a whole bunch more I won't bother listing.

    He uses the supposed BYU fan screen names to say idiotic things in hopes that utah trolls like yourself will then answer him. Obviously he is accomplishing his goal with you.

    With his noblepromise screen name he posts basicly the same thing every time in halting and broken english. His topics with that screen name are always about BYU playing a weak schedule, how much better off they would be in a bcs conference, how the teams they play suck, how they will never be ranked because they play these weak opponenents from these weak conferences, etc.

  • Uncle Rico Provo, UT
    Dec. 11, 2011 6:06 p.m.

    Re:Riddles in the Dark

    BYU beat one team in a bowl (USU).

    BYU has record inflation. 1-3 vs Bowl opponents (they beat USU).

    Not all football team are Idaho or Idaho State.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Dec. 11, 2011 7:37 p.m.

    @uncle rico

    utah beat two bowl teams (BYU and ucla which actually has a LOSING record) and they beat only one team (BYU) with a winning record.

    utah has record inflation. 2-3 vs bowl opponents (they beat BYU and the pitiful ucla).

    Not all football teams are arizona and colorado, oops utah lost to colorado, at home.

    LOL!

  • Jake2010 bountiful, ut
    Dec. 11, 2011 8:27 p.m.

    4 games were against the Big 12, Pac-12 and SEC..... The record was 2-2 in those games...... 61-42 later and 54-10 was still a going away present from Jake Heaps. Riley Nelson would not have seen a 54-10 beat down..... Riley Nelson would not have seen 17-16 against Texas..... Bottom line I'm in fantasy land but truth is BYU still didn't lose one game all year against a team with a losing record.... Enough said!

  • BT4UT Pleasant Grove, Ut
    Dec. 11, 2011 10:08 p.m.

    An article giving us the schedule for the bowl games and the trolls come out to argue about which team is best. Face it trolls, Utah,BYU nor USU had banner years. Yes there was some drama on the field for USU and the U, and off the field for BYU, but the seasons were less than outstanding.

    To the folks who feel there are too many bowl games and a 6 and 6 team shouldn't play in one, remember last year when a team from Utah went 6-6 and was invited to a bowl in New Mexico. My neighbors in Utah County were thrilled they were going bowling.

    Until there is a play off system (not going to happen soon) sit back and enjoy the games. The bowls give 64 teams a chance to practice more, get better recruits, and maybe even make some money. If you don't like the game, don't watch them. Chill out, listen to Christmas music, enjoy the end of the College football season. And most of all try to stay on the topic of the article.

  • 54-10 Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 11, 2011 11:00 p.m.

    54-10 and the team in blue quit.

    LOL

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Dec. 11, 2011 11:09 p.m.

    Duckhunter, we also won at Pitt, who is playing in a bowl. Our record against bowl-eligible opponents is 3-3. Not saying we're hot stuff on the national market, but are you guys really anything worth bragging about? It's so silly to me when I see people bragging about being listed in the "also received votes" section of the Top 25 polls, yet I've seen it extensively this year.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Dec. 11, 2011 11:55 p.m.

    Riddles in the Dark | 4:45 p.m. Dec. 11, 2011

    If BYU had played Utah's schedule, the Cougars might very well have been 10-2.

    ------------

    How so?

    BYU with a #96 SOS is 9-3, how to they go 10-2 with a #37 SOS?

  • Barney Google Beaver, UT
    Dec. 12, 2011 7:56 a.m.

    Riddles in the Dark | 4:45 p.m. Dec. 11, 2011

    "If BYU had played Utah's schedule, the Cougars might very well have been 10-2."

    Thump! that was me picking myself up off the ground from laughter!

    You need to change your user name from The "Riddler" to the "Joker!" that was hilarious.

    Hang in there Band of Lil Batman Characters.

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 12, 2011 8:36 a.m.

    A national college football playoff would never be accepted in Utah county. Fans there don't accept on-the-field results. They've spun the season-crippling loss to their arch-rival as if it never happened. The same would happen in a playoff. "Here is an obscure statistic which proves our team is better. Toss out the score at the end of the game, and obviously our team should advance to the next round."

    If it wasn't so sad, it would be funny.

  • Last Stand Farmington, UT
    Dec. 12, 2011 11:05 a.m.

    Am I missing something? I thought the Las Vegas Bowl took the MWC champ unless that team was going to a BCS bowl? How, then, is TCU relegated to the Poinsettia Bowl?

  • Elmer Fudd Sandy, Utah
    Dec. 12, 2011 12:38 p.m.

    @ Last Stand

    "Am I missing something? I thought the Las Vegas Bowl took the MWC champ unless that team was going to a BCS bowl? How, then, is TCU relegated to the Poinsettia Bowl?"

    That's what I thought too! Boise State is having a temper tantrum because they were't selected to go to a BCS bowl game with one loss and a second place conference finish. Boise State has been spoiled brats the past several years by ESPN and other media sources. TCU is more deserving of a Vegas Bowl berth than Boise State since they did beat them head to head in Boise.

    TCU fans should be ecstatic they're leaving the Mountain West for the Big-12 next year. You will be treated better by the Big-12 than the Mountain West.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Dec. 12, 2011 12:39 p.m.

    Last Stand:

    The MWC champion was never contractually tied to the Las Vegas Bowl like the Pac-12 champion is automatically awarded the Rose Bowl [short of an NC appearance]. The agreement between the MWC and the LVB was that the LVB gets 1st choice of bowl participants. First choice TYPICALLY suggests the conference champion, but it is not automatic. In this case, the Las Vegas Bowl selection committee preferred the higher ranked team...which in this case was Boise State. However, that has not always been the case. The LVB has in the past demonstrated a lack of objectivity in their bowl selections. Think back to 2008 for example. When the MWC champion [Utah] went to the Sugar Bowl, the LVB committee passed over the MWC runner up [TCU] for the conference's #3 team, and DESPITE the fact that the Frogs blew out that team head-to-head earlier in the season.

    So no, the LVB is not obligated to take the conference champion. Never was.

  • Truth Machine Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 12, 2011 10:18 p.m.

    SoonerUte

    "They've spun the season-crippling loss to their arch-rival as if it never happened."

    Since that "season-crippling" loss:

    BYU 8-1, ranked just outside the Top 25, only losss to 16th ranked TCU on the road

    Utah 5-4, nowhere near the Top 25, with a home loss to one of the worst teams in the country

    Now tell me, which team pulled themselves up by their bootstraps and went on to have a very good season, and which team imploded time after time after time?

    Who's really spinning here?

  • Rockwell Baltimore, MD
    Dec. 12, 2011 10:42 p.m.

    Uteology

    It's amazing how someone who spends so much time studying numbers could constantly ignore the most glaring blemish on Utah's schedule:

    Utah's home LOSS to 96th-ranked Colorado.

    How does BYU playing Utah's schedule go from 9-3 to 10-2?

    Even you should be able to figure that one out.

    Because Texas and TCU, two of the three teams BYU lost to, on the road, are both ranked higher than any team on Utah's schedule except USC.

    Trade road games at #16 Texas and #18 TCU for road games against #11 USC and #30 California and you can easily see how BYU could have traded an 0-2 record for a 1-1 record against their two highest-ranked opponents.

  • SUPERTONGANMAN SANDY, UT
    Dec. 13, 2011 2:31 a.m.

    Already circled the Bowl games that I want to see, came up to 19. As Bart Scott said, "Can't WAIT!"

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 13, 2011 10:16 a.m.

    Truth Machine spins into overdrive:
    "Since that "season-crippling" loss: BYU 8-1"
    Not mentioned (but everybody knows) is how weak those opponents were in those wins.

    Before the season, The Utes were predicted to finish in the middle of the Pac 12, and might even have a shot at getting into the conference championship game. Despite losing their quarterback, Utah adjusted and accomplished what was predicted.

    Before the season, The Cougars were going to bust the BCS, and Jake Heaps was going to win the Heisman. After the Utah game, the Cougars were in a tailspin with demands that Doman get in the booth, their post-season goals crippled to the Armed Forces Bowl, and Heaps no longer called the Jimmer of Football.

    The loss to TCU is most telling. Against a quality opponent, all the Cougar magic pieces were in place... Doman in the booth, Heaps holding a clipboard... and a quality win eluded them.

    The TCU loss makes it easy to predict a fantasy rematch. The score would be closer, but the Utes Defense would still dominate. The Cougars might not quit until the 4th quarter, but the Utes would still win.

  • News For U Sandy, Utah
    Dec. 13, 2011 10:59 a.m.

    @ Truth Machine

    "BYU 8-1, ranked just outside the Top 25, only losss to 16th ranked TCU on the road".

    You do realize that rankings have no bearing on your football program as an Independent unless your in the top 2 for a guarantee berth in the BCS. If your not in the top 2 your playing for the same bowl game byu has contracts with (Helicopter and Macaroni and Cheese Bowls).

    "Utah 5-4, nowhere near the Top 25, with a home loss to one of the worst teams in the country".

    I find it pathetic that Y trolls parade behind other schools that have success in beating the Utes, when BYU has failed to get the job done against them.

  • News For U Sandy, Utah
    Dec. 13, 2011 11:12 a.m.

    @ Truth Machine

    "BYU 8-1, ranked just outside the Top 25, only losss to 16th ranked TCU on the road".

    You do realize that rankings have no bearing on your football program as an Independent unless your in the top 2 for a guarantee berth in the BCS. If your not in the top 2 your playing for the same bowl game byu has contracts with (Helicopter and Macaroni and Cheese Bowls).

    "Utah 5-4, nowhere near the Top 25, with a home loss to one of the worst teams in the country".

    I find it pathetic that Y trolls parade behind other schools that have success in beating the Utes, when BYU has failed to get the job done against them.

  • Igualmente Mesa, AZ
    Dec. 13, 2011 11:43 a.m.

    Meaningless bowls, except it gives teams more practice time for their underclassmen to prepare for the following season.

    The BCS only gives us a 1-game 2-team playoff from the minds of poll voters.

    The FBS needs to take a lesson from the FCS on how its done, but how do you tell the bowls to take their millions and go home...

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    Dec. 13, 2011 5:56 p.m.

    News For U

    Top 25 rankings are always relevant, except to Utah fans, who are used to the Utes almost never finishing in the Top 25.

    What I find pathetic is a fanbase beating their chests about smelling Roses this year, and then making excuses for not even being able to win the pathetically weak PAC 12 South.

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    Dec. 13, 2011 6:11 p.m.

    SoonerUte

    "Not mentioned (but everybody knows) is how weak those opponents were in those wins."

    For wins against weak opponents, see mirror. Unfortunately for U, you weren't even capable of beating all of your weak opponents.

    Pitt (6-6)
    OSU (3-9)
    Ariz (4-8)
    UCLA (6-7)
    WSU (4-8)
    Col (3-10) OOPS! you lost that one
    Total (26-48)

    At least BYU was dominated at home by a 10-loss team for the entire first half.

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    Dec. 13, 2011 6:26 p.m.

    * "wasn't" dominated at home by a 10-loss team

  • Just the FAX Olympus Cove, Utah
    Dec. 13, 2011 6:50 p.m.

    News For U

    BYU has contracts with (Helicopter and Macaroni & Cheese Bowls)

    Did I miss something, because I could swear that the "Macaroni & Cheese" bowl is the bowl designated for the PAC 12 South division winner?

    Yep, here it is:

    KRAFT FIGHT HUNGER BOWL
    Illinois vs UCLA

    Maybe if you're really good, someday, even the Utes might get to follow in UCLA's footsteps.

  • sportsfanforlife salt lake city, UT
    Dec. 13, 2011 8:21 p.m.

    @sportsfan na whats really pathetic is a horrible team from provo beating their chest about "getting better against wac teams (best league in bcs just ask byu fans, oops not in the bcs just like byu but let y fans tell you and the wac teams they played were all equal to utahs schedule)and lost to EVERY decent team they played and still talkin trash to a team that beat u on your OWN field by 44 pts and u still claim all the to's were self inflicted (but anyone who actually watched the game know otherwise.)now thats pathetic.

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Dec. 13, 2011 9:58 p.m.

    Just the OPINIONS,

    There is actually no specific designation for any placing PAC 12 team other than the Rose Bowl. The bowl committees make their invitations to their affiliated conferences based on who they think the best remaining affiliated team is.

    Alamo Bowl has a $3.175M payout, Holiday Bowl has $2.15M, Sun Bowl has $2M, MAACO Bowl has $1.1M and Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl has $837.5K. Meanwhile, the Armed Forces Bowl pays out $600K.

    Maybe if YOU'RE really good, the Cougars will get to follow in UCLA's footsteps.

  • News For U Sandy, Utah
    Dec. 13, 2011 11:37 p.m.

    @ Just the FAX (Your using "Fax" in the wrong context)

    1. FAX means to transmit a facsimile (texts or pictures) electronically.

    2. FACTS means something that actually exists; reality; truth.

    You might want to change your username.

    Now onto the topic:

    According to BYU's "best friend" ESPN. BYU has contracts with the Kraft's Macaroni and Cheese Bowl in 2013. YAY! a step up financially from the Helicopter Bowl.

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    Dec. 14, 2011 5:43 p.m.

    News For U

    Be honest, which bowl would Utah fans be more likely to actually attend?

    Sun Bowl

    or

    Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl

    $$$ isn't the end-all-be-all of what makes a bowl game attractive for fans to attend.

    You can spin all you want about how much more "prestigious" the Sun Bowl is, but if it is really so "prestigious," how come NOBODY is going?

    Dallas, San Diego, or San Francisco versus El Paso? - get real!

    By the time Utah finishes paying for all of their unsold ticket allotment, the Utes will be lucky to break even on this year's Sun Bowl.

  • PAC man Anaheim, CA
    Dec. 14, 2011 7:26 p.m.

    StGtoSLC

    "There is actually no specific designation for any placing PAC 12 team other than the Rose Bowl. The bowl committees make their invitations to their affiliated conferences based on who they think the best remaining affiliated team is."

    Unfortunately, you have no concept of what bowl committees consider the "best" team. Here's a clue, it has NOTHING to do with which football team is the best, but it has EVERYTHING to do with which team will bring the most fans and which team will have the most fans tuning in to watch the game.

    As usual, Utah fans are so obsessed with money, that it's blinding them to more important factors for a bowl, like being in an interesting place for fans to visit.

    Frankly, I'll take Las Vegas, San Diego, Dallas, or San Francisco ANY DAY over El Paso - and so, obviously, would U.

    Not one of my many Ute friends is even considering going to the Sun Bowl and it's highly unlikely that any of the Utah fans beating their chests on this blog will be going to the bowl either.

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Dec. 14, 2011 8:03 p.m.

    PAC Man, I'm happy for you that you feel so pleased in your own arrogance. However, I tend to disagree with you. I have several friends going to the game, and there are around 20 players on the team from Texas. I can't speak for the Southern California Ute fanbase, but I expect it to be a well-traveled game. Also, I have a friend who played 3 or 4 different bowls while in college, and he said the Sun Bowl was the most fun of them all, and he's excited to be traveling there again this year.

  • PAC man Anaheim, CA
    Dec. 14, 2011 10:21 p.m.

    "well-traveled game"??

    Don't kid yourself.

    The Utes will be lucky if they get 2,000 fans to the game, including the band and cheerleaders.