Beatdown begins in 2 minutes. Can't wait to see this circus.
I'm going to consider anything better than a 20pt loss a "win".
Beatdown city, the new name of the Huntsman Center.
Re: atl134 Of course you'll "consider" it a win... too bad it won't
show up as a win in the books. The boys on the hill won't have many true wins
this season so you should just get used to it.
So far the Utes are working extremely hard! Go Utes, keep fighting for those
rebounds and hopefully the shots will start falling! Go Utes!
What is going on with the refs?!! What a crock. Call a game refs. Utah is
driving out of control, flopping all over the place, and you're calling touch
fouls on BYU! C'mon PAC 12 refs, at least call if square.
Just wanna give my props to the announcers on the radio, they aren't referring
to the Utes coach as Coach K.
BYU flatUtah brings A-gameResult - BYU up by 11.
My Elders quorum team could beat the Utes by 100. Gameplan:Dribble around until the time clock is under 5 seconds, launch a shot and
Whether football or basketball, PAC refs are incapable of calling a fair game.
Remember Utes, when you used to complain about that? That said, the Cougs are
playing flat. Hope they heat up soon.
Tell you what...Utah had a game plan and has stuck to it...it's worked on the
defensive end, but the problem is they're so putrid on offense...33 points in 37
minutes won't win you too many ballgames.For the Utes, chin up...
Portland is coming.For the Cougars...bring on Baylor.
Utah acting like it was a close game at the end...not because they wanted to
play hard till the end; not because their coach wanted them to work on anything;
but just so they wouldn't be held to under 40 points.Putrid offense
from both teams, but BYU still won. A win is a win.
Well, that's six in a row. Great moral victory for the Utes, though. On a
positive note things should get easier for Utah when they start PAC regular
season. Home losses by the PAC to the MWC, WAC and WCC in eighteen hours.
Conference of champions indeed!
Congratulations to BYU for another win over the utes! Congratulations to the
utes for scoring a season low, WAY TO GO!
Nice win atl134. Looks like you're in for a great season.
Nice win over a Pac-12 powerhouse. BYU (WCC) 2-0 v. Conf of Champions. I didn't
see the end of the game - did little brother score more than 38??
Six in a row. Mark it down.
BYU is 2-0 against the Pac 10.2; more wins than Utah will have in that
conferenceUtah is an embarrassment to the state of Utah and the Pac
10.2Utah will not win another game this season...go BYU!
I don't know why we save our worst for the Utes. Shot terribly, did not
rebound all that well, mediocre point guard play (Cusick made it tolerable).
Davies still struggling, not sure why. Finals next week, but we better play
a TON better against Baylor or they will run us out of the gym. Love
What an ugly style of basketball the Utes play. When your goal is to just hold
the ball to make the game look closer than it was, you get a brand of hoops that
@3grandslams and WA_Alum&Dad College Basketball Referees are not
assigned by conference. Although some refs may work certain coferences more
than others, there is no such thing as PAC 12 refs in basketball.
What a horrible game. I hate it when BYU plays down to the level of the
competition. The refs definitely would have liked a chance to help the Utes out,
but their is only so much they can do besides bailing Jiggy out everytime he
drove in out of control. Yes Utah there are other sports besides football, enjoy
the next 9 months.
And a circus it was. I wonder if I will pity the Utes after 10 in a
row, 15 or 20? Time will tell.
Love the sports balance in this state.Football1. UU2.
BYU3. USUBasketball1. USU2. BYU3. UU
Terrible game from both teams but byu's worst game is still massively better
than the Utes best effort. And the Pac-12 is pathetic any way you slice it, both
in football and b-ball. I agree Conference of Chumpions is right. Where's Chris B? and Naval Vet? to give words of wisdom to all us small town
bumpkins.Well I'll speak for them, 54-10 remember?
No record setting loss at the Huntsman today?Cal State Fullerton holds on
to the record another day.
@BluCoug"Congratulations to the utes for scoring a season low, WAY TO
GO!"Congratulations to BYU for only scoring 6 more points than
their season low against a terrible Ute team. WAY TO GO!
USU basketball would not beat BYU in Provo and would not beat BYU anywhere now.
BYU is the best in the state right now.
Gee's what a boring game... and there is no excuse. BYU shouldn't be texting
while they're driving...definitely no sense of any real concentration. But then
again...knowing ahead of time that the game would never be in doubt did
contribute to the element of no surprises...So what was I thinking...or
expecting....after all it was the Utes.
Moderate"Love the sports balance in this state."So do I, but your order is WAAAAY off:Football1. BYU2.
Utah3. USU4. WSU5. SUUBasketball1. BYU2. WSU3. USU4. UVU5. SUU6. Dixie State7. Snow
College8. Westminster9. SLCC10. Stevens-Henegerdishonorable mention: Utah
Wasn't able to watch the game, but I heard Utah shot less than 30% and the Y
still couldn't cover the spread. After the start we've had to the season and
the current state of our program, that's about the best I could've hoped for.
Must be a let down for a few particularly obsessed "fans" on these
boards who have been thirsting for a 44 point win to soothe a burn they got in
September. Here's hoping Coach K can win a couple more games and get
things rebuilt as quickly as possible.Go UTES!!
Let's put this in perspective a little bit. A few Cougar fans disappointed
because it wasn't worse. First of all anytime you play an opponent that holds
the ball until the final 5 seconds of the shot clock and then
shoots...well...it's kind of hard to find any rythem. And second you have to
give the Utes coaching staff credit for a game plan totally designed to keep
your team from being embarrassed. I believe this is the style of BBall that Ute
fans can look forward to all year!!!!
The runnin utes are now the slow-down-stalling utes. Beats losing by fifty.
Nice to win big when the Cougs are not at their best. Th utes spend the rest of
their lives hiding behind the Conference of Champions label.
Despite the refs' best efforts (especially in the first half), BYU won the
game.I do have to agree that it was an ugly game.Moderate, I have very bad news for you:1) Pretty much only Ute
fans and BYU haters think Utah's football team is better than BYU's football
team (otherwise they would have been ranked higher sometime the last month and a
half).2) There is a good chance that USU's football team is better
than Utah's. I'm sure they would have beat Utah if they played this year
(although the better team does not always win, as we both know).3)
WSU is also better than Utah in basketball.4) USU better than BYU is
basketball? Hard to tell. If they play in Provo, BYU wins. If they play in
Logan, USU wins. However, evidence suggests if they play on a neutral court,
State of the StateBYU fans disappointed in a 19-point win in the
Huntsman.Utah fans ecstatic about only losing by 19 points in the
Huntsman.BYU now leads the all-time series 128-125, with a 6-game
winning streak (every win by double digits), and 10 of the last 11.
"Basketball1. BYU2. WSU3. USU4. UVU5. SUU6. Dixie State7. Snow College8. Westminster9. SLCC10.
Stevens-Henegerdishonorable mention: Utah "Awesome!
Move usu down a few notches for dishonorable fans.
Utah could be congratulated for holding BYU under 80 points today but then BYU
didn't do too much to help themselves in that department so I won't. Can anyone explain why some sportscasters, athletic departments and other
folks keep referring to the Utah basketball team as the Runnin' Utes? Got to hand it to Utah coaching for bringing back their point guard just in
time to keep the score as close as possible.
Sports fan-I agree with your assessment of basketball, but you have
to be kidding about football right? What in your right mind thinks that BYU is
at all better than Utah in football? Come on BYU fans. Don't live in denial.
Utah beat you by enough this year that this end-of-season delusion shouldn't
exist. Just own up to the loss please.
Ugh, what an ugly game. Utah did their best to keep the game close,
but in the end, the Utes are simply a horrible basketball team. No offensive
flow whatsoever. Majerus would be horrified to see what passes for offense at
the U nowadays.The only bright side is the Utes will hit absolute
rock bottom this year and anything they do next season will be an improvement.
ClassyUteOne game does not a season make.Current AP Top
25#29 BYU (12 points)u/r Utah (0 points)Current Coaches
Top 25#26 BYU (20 points)u/r Utah (0 points)BYU still
has a very good chance of finishing with their 5th 10+ win season and 5th Top 25
Ranking in the last 6 years.Utah, despite BYU's 7-turnover plagued
meltdown in September, won't even come close to either accomplishment.
Coach Krzyzewski should get a copywright on "Coach K." That's a
disgrace to call the Utes coach the same thing. Thats like calling Jiggy
"Andre Miller." And second thing it was smart for Utah to run the
clock down...But WHY wouldn't Coach Kris Kodiak have them actually run an
offense once the playclock is under 8 seconds?
Claassy ute, i love to hate the red, but yes I hate to admit utes are still best
football team in the state. But I am definitely enjoying ute bball!
"What in your right mind thinks that BYU is at all better than Utah in
football? Come on BYU fans. Don't live in denial. Utah beat you by enough this
year that this end-of-season delusion shouldn't exist."It's not
just BYU fans who think this.What in our right minds make us think
BYU is better than Utah?Let's see.... BYU didn't lose to any
lower-tier PAC teams (except for Utah). Utah did. BYU didn't need overtime and
a field goal to beat a team like Washington State. Utah did. (It could be
argued BYU needed a lot to beat USU, but USU is probably better than many of the
teams Utah lost to). BYU didn't lose to a 2-10 team at home. Utah did.Oh, and I don't think you guys want to make the "team A beat team
B, so team A is better" claim. If that were true, then Colorado is the 2nd
worst team in the PAC-12.
Sagarin RatingsFootball38 Utah41 BYU73
Utah State113 Southern Utah134 Weber StateBasketball54 BYU136 Weber State182 Utah State197 Utah Valley296 Southern Utah326 Utah
Got to give credit to the fans who were still cheering on the Utes.
Re: RationalThe BCS rankings (which all Ute trolls live and die
for) have:BYU #33Utah #51You can go ahead
and hang your hat on the Sagarin football ratings, but the coaches poll, the AP
poll and the BCS poll all rank BYU significantly higher than the Utes at this
end of the season...Those are the facts and no amount of spinning will change
them.Better luck next year
Interesting game plan for the Utes: Stall and take as much time as possible so
the Cougars can't hand us another historical home loss. To their credit, it
worked, but it makes a pretty sad statement about the state of their program.Oh, and was anyone else as confused as I was when the Utes started
fouling in the final minute when they were down by 20?P.S. Did
anyone else catch the flattering shot of Ute coeds on this article?
Now that the game is a final, let's see what the final Utah vs BYU totals are
for 2011; football plus basketball. If my math is correct, that makes it Utah
96, BYU 71! Thanks for playing Cougars. Better luck in 2012.
Not pretty, but... the last time BYU held Utah to 42 points or fewer
was February 12, 1943, when BYU defeated Utah 44-34 in SLC.the last
time Utah held BYU to 42 points or fewer was February 17, 1950, when Utah
defeated BYU 42-56 in SLC.
@sportsfanUtah and BYU are similarly ranked in football (very slight edge
to Utah in the sagarin rankings). Tiebreaker? Utah wrecked BYU, therefore it
gets the one spot for football. If you're going to taunt Utah basketball, at
least don't look silly doing so.
I have been able to see most games on TV or online this year ... except this one
since the game was at a Pac 12 site. Thank goodness for independence. Thank
goodness BYU is not in the Pac 12 or the Mountain West, so I can most games this
Portland Trail Blazers | 2:13 p.m. Dec. 10, 2011 Sandy, UTBYU is 2-0
against the Pac 10.2; more wins than Utah will have in that conferenceUtah is an embarrassment to the state of Utah and the Pac 10.2----------Many of your fans who attended the game were an
embarrassment to BYU.Vile, classless, disrespectful behavior just
about everywhere I looked. I don't hold many Y fans in high regard to begin
with, but to say I was absolutely disgusted by some of the behavior I saw speaks
volumes.I hope you're proud of the way you represent your
I laugh at any BYU fans criticizing the Pac12. Yes, the competition is down this
year and yes, Pac12 schools make alot more money than Byu (unless you count
86&90UTENice try, but current score in the Deseret Duel:Women's SoccerBYU 3 Utah 0Women's VolleyballBYU
3 Utah 0Men's FootballBYU 0 Utah 10Men's
BasketballBYU 10 Utah 0Current Total:BYU 16Utah 10BYU is still playing; looks like Utah has already given up.
Realist101I laugh at Utah fans who beat their chests about money
every time the Utes lose on the scoreboard.How many Utah fans are
showing up in the Huntsman to watch the Utes nowadays? Yes, the Utes
are really raking in the dough with whatever they call that thing they're trying
to pass off as a basketball team.
The game may have been ugly, but the uniforms were sweet. Love Blue vs. Red.
Hope this is how every game between these two teams are played.
atl134No tie-breaker needed - see BCS, AP and Coaches rankings.ALL of the most important rankings have BYU ranked ahead of Utah.BCS - #33 BYU, #51 UtahAP - #29 BYU, unranked UtahCoaches -
#26 BYU, unranked Utah
Very physical game, poorly played and poorly officiated. The Utes got a lot of
help to keep it from being a bigger blowout than it was.Since so
many have brought up the topic of football on this basketball article, I'll add
my two-bits that my fellow Cougars aren't going to like:I have
always been taught that the best and only sure way of determining if you are
better than your opponent is to look at the outcome when you go head to head. If
your opponent beats you, especially when they beat you soundly, they are better
than you. It is as simple as that. Ratings mean nothing compared to head-to-head
Someone suggested that Majerus would have hated how the Utes offense looked
today. If I remember correctly Majerus (and Reid) would have loved the lack of
offense, holding the ball till the shot clock was run down, and then saying it
was great defense. Majerus would have loved the Utes offense today. It was
just bad basketball, mostly because Utah did not play to win but rather to not
@Riverton Cougar"Moderate, I have very bad news for you:1) Pretty much only Ute fans and BYU haters think Utah's football team
is better than BYU's football team (otherwise they would have been ranked higher
sometime the last month and a half)."---------Riverton,I have bad news for you: 54-10. Utah's wins have been 7
out of the last 10, with 3 out of the last 5 being blowouts. And you claim BYU's
footbal team is "better" than Utah's????? Are you kidding me?ROTFL!!!
Never seen so many Cougie trolls out on an Ute article in one day!The Ute basketball team is nothing but freshman and a new coach, give them a
freaking break.The program needs to develop a little, something that
takes TIME.Nobody ever hyped up this Utah basketball team, so why
criticize? The Ute trolls criticise Cougie fans because everything they say is
hype, so when we come out and win 54-10, it's open season.Congrats,
the Cougies won by 19 by a bunch of freshman. I hope you're proud.
"SportsFan" says I am way off.My bad.I went by actual
record.I don't do fantasy leagues.
only gots one thing to say,GOOD!
I went to the game this afternoon. A few comments.Very few Utah
fans present. The Utes did not enjoy a home court advantage. The student
section had the band and about 10 rows of students. The remaining section was
students disguised as red chairs. Very disappointing.The
non-student Utah fans were also missings. It is sad to realize that the Utah
fan base are six game wonders. Show up for 6 football games and then disappear.
Know what, they are not "Utah" fans. They are only football fans.
Big difference. 2nd disappointment of the day.The 3rd was simply
"Utah held the ball". I don't believe I have ever seen a game where a
team was down by 15 plus point with less than 10 minutes to play, hold the ball
on offense the first 25 seconds of the 35 clock. Normally you try to score
quickly and then try to get the ball back. Not today. The only effort came
with about 2 minutes left when Utah started fouling. I guess they decided it
was important to score in the 40's.Ugly game is right. But at keep
away, Utah won today. Big time!!
GoGetterWhat makes you think an article about a game between BYU and
Utah is a "Ute" article?Just because nobody hyped your
team, doesn't mean they're immune from being criticized as one of the worst
teams in the history of Utah basketball.The fact that Utah fans have
to use football smack in a basketball article shows just how desperate they are
for anything to save face.btw, BYU has NINE freshmen on this year's
team; how many freshman does Utah have?Utah's excuse isn't that
they're young; they're simply not any good.
They will have to resort to the slow-down.I think it's their only
move. Princeton style ball. I think they will keep that style until
they get more talent in there.
Utes, keep your heads up. Every team goes through rough times now and then.
It's just a matter of time before Utes Men Basketball is back.
ModerateBy actual score, Colorado is a better football team than
As a BYU fan this game was really frustrating. Sure it's nice to beat the utes
but this was not the beat down I was hoping for. Seems Larry K was in this one
"to not lose by 40". And it worked. Needless to say, last year was a
lot more fun. Utah fans almost seemed happy after the game and that's just
UoU...With your logic, Utah then, is a much much better team than byu.
Jenny83Finally, a Utah fan who's willing to admit that Utah isn't
even as good as the worst team in the PAC 12?
The utes are one of the worst teams I have seen in 60 years. The sad part is
that they lose theirOnly D1 player next year. The end of this drought is
not in sight. They are playing down nicely to the PACs level.
Good strategy Coach Kry. If it weren't for the shot clock, I'm sure the Utes
would have been content losing 15 - 12.To their credit, the Utes
played decent defense. And Wiggy is decent on the offensive side. But there is
not much other talent on the offensive side of the ball for the Utes. Too bad
Watkins is a Senior and the rebuilding starts all over again next year.The Cougs shot losy and still gave the Utsies a 19 point beat down. Sure 19
points may feel good after your last 31 point beatdown. But I hate to break the
news to you - 19 points is still a beatdown.Maybe the PAC12 is
better than I thought - Arizona State whipped North Dakota State by 3 points
today.Good luck to the Utes against Idaho State and Portland. They
are your last chances for wins this season.
I have to say this, as bad as Utah basketball is and will be this year, the
football beatdown given the Cougs by the Utes was worse.
Funny how when Ute trolls try to convince themselves that the Utes have a more
credible football "program" than BYU, they point to the Utes overall
record against BYU, and discount the National Chamionship from nearly 30 years
ago and fail to acknowledge that the Utes only have three conference
championships ever and have only finished in the top 25 four times ever!Yet in the same breath, they defend the current state of Ute basketball
and guarantee that the Utes will get back to their glory because they are a
"quality program" based on the Majeras years and a trip to the finals
almost 15 years ago...even when BYU now holds the all time series lead, has won
the last six games, and 10 of the last 11. So Ute Fan, which way is
it, poor little brothers. BTW Chris B, I noticed that your stable of Pac10
"athletes" were clearly superior today? Hmmmm.....
As I have said before on other message board responses....."Utes basketball
is dead in the water" this year. "Forget about it." This game
was a major blowout by any measurement. I've seen Junior College teams that can
blow this Ute outfit out of the tub. Let's just be humane and quit beating a
dead horse. It's over this year, pure and simple. The Utes will just have to
take their beatings as the Cougars did that one year after Roger Reid left.
I also found it hilarious that utah was holding the ball until there was about 8
seconds left on the shot clock. Then they would give it to Jiggy and he would
drive and try to do something with it. It rarely worked. It did slow down the
game to a painful pace.Back in my day if my team were down, we would
be running and gunning trying to get back into the game. Not Utah. They have
completely given up and are just trying to not lose by record margins. A 30+ pt loss to Cal State Fullerton?I never thought I would
see the day that the utes would fall into this kind of abyss. It is going to be
a LONG time before they turn this ship around. At least the Pac12
as a whole is stinking it up this year so maybe the margin of loss won't look so
bad once league games start.Wow. It is actually kind of sad.
I don't understand all the chatter?Utah crushed BYU in
football...BYU crushed Utah in basketball...That gives
Utah the honor of football trash talking and BYU should simply accept it.BYU can start shoving their basketball win down our throats...Any other comments of Sagarin, BCS or quality of bowl is a waste of breath,
typing or texting. You play the game to see who wins and we know now who
won...See ya next year Coogies...
@McNastyI am a BYU fan. I posted data, didn't draw a conclusion. Read my handle: Rational. Not rabid. Not biased. Not rude. Not ignorant.
Utah played the game, so as not to lose huge.That is weak.You play to get the "W"!!!Assistant coach Tommy Conner
will right the ship over time.
@gogetterUh....this is an artcile about both teams, and BYU is the
team that won, in a blowout. There are links to this article in both teams
section. Your utah education is showing.
@Ted H."But I am definitely enjoying ute bball! "You
shouldn't. Not that I'm against the glee that comes with watching another team
fail... but when you start setting basketball back decades I think it reaches
@alternate"It is sad to realize that the Utah fan base are six game
wonders. Show up for 6 football games and then disappear. Know what, they are
not "Utah" fans. "Utah set an NCAA record for any
women's sport by drawing 14k on average to gymnastics meets last year so it's
not just football... there's just a non-traditional #2.
Back to listening to KSL because the game was not broadcast on any channel I
receive. That's what happens when we play on home courts of po-dunk teams in
no-name leagues. As someone who loves BYU but disliked living in the
state of Utah for the few years I was there (much of which had to do with
boorish students and fans of other local universities), I cannot share the
disappointment of so many of the Utah-based members of Cougar Nation. I love it
when the BYU-hater fans' schools lose big. It is a weakness that I hope to get
around to working on eventually. Not sure when that will be.
Lets be honest about the basketball being played by "every" college
team in this state this year. There isn't quite frankly one of them that is any
good. This is terrible and very hard to digest but every one of you need to face
For those arguing about football...Utah is better than BYU... they
played each other and Utah won 54-10. This is an indisputable fact.BYU is ranked higher than Utah. This too is an indisputable fact.Therefore, end the stupid arguments. Utah is better than BYU. BYU is ranked
higher than Utah.Both can and do exist, so whichever side you're on,
deal with it!Congrats to BYU... you killed us today. And yes, it
would've been worse if Coach K - yes I said Coach K - hadn't slowed it up. For those who say it was an effort to not get destroyed - absolutely
right, which makes the game plan smart doesn't it?! And saying the
coaches were conceding the game is ridiculous, that game plan was the only way
the Utes could keep it close enough to have a chance in the end which they darn
near could have had if jiggy would've hit his free throws today and Washburn
could've stayed out of foul trouble.The Utes made progress today,
I'm proud of them. But to make things clear... BYU is ranked higher than Utah
and in this case they are better than Utah. Congrats Cougars.
motorbikeIrrational arguments.Answer the following
questions honestly, and you'll have your answer.Is Iowa State better
than Oklahoma State?Is Colorado better than Utah?Higher
ranking (based on an entire season's accomplishments) trumps a one-game
accomplishment.The game plan should be based on doing your best to
try to win, not on how to lessen the embarrassment of losing.The
only "progress" the Utes made today was scoring fewer points against
BYU than they've scored in almost 70 years. Great "accomplishment".
Now I think I know why the Utah players don't have their names on the back of
jarka-rus, your elders quorum couldn't beat the local high school team. Sounds
like a guy who probably never had it and was always a wanna-be. Although you
may not be far off. The Utes are Horrible. How does a college hoop team that
was once held in such high regard fall so far? Probably bad coaching hires by
Dr. Hill. Maybe he needs to go!
BYU women beat the utes too, Deseret Duel score BYU 19 utes 10.
uteBusters,Maybe the fact that it's in the "Utes" section
in the DNews Sports section...How many freshman on BYU are actually
starting? The Utes are nothing but freshman with a new coach trying to find a
direction. Sure, you can smack talk all you want but it doesn't change anything,
you're smack talking a team of freshman compared to a more seasoned team.Go ahead. Give it a few years and it might be a contest.
uteBusters,Although I do not endorse any behavior by Utah fans
towards us in football, I do not think you should become one of them. We stand
for something better, we don't need any more fans to make BYU have a bad
name.I'm glad BYU won, but we have to remember, each school has its
nitch this year. Utah has football and BYU has basketball. Let's just leave it
like that and be done.
sls -USU basketball would not beat BYU in Provo and would not beat BYU
anywhere now. BYU is the best in the state right now. _____________Such a You guys always say things like this AFTER your opponents beat
you and AFTER they lose their most important players to injury. Very convenient,
not very sporting of you though.
GoGetter"How many freshman on BYU are actually starting? The
Utes are nothing but freshman with a new coach trying to find a direction. Sure,
you can smack talk all you want but it doesn't change anything, you're smack
talking a team of freshman compared to a more seasoned team."It's strange how Utah fan fantasy is so far removed from reality.BYU StartersZylstra - JrHartsock - SrDavies - JrAbouo
- SrWinder - FrBYU played three Freshmen -- Winder, Austin and
Harrison -- including one who started.Utah StartersFarr -
JrMartin - JrWashburn - JrHines - JrWatkins - SrUtah played three Freshmen -- Odunsi, Storey, and Wilkinson -- but none
LonestarRunnerDon't confuse motorbike with facts; just let him
continue believing that when all of Utah's starters are Juniors and Seniors, the
Utes will have a decent team.Oh, wait a minute...
@motorbike"Maybe the fact that it's in the "Utes"
section in the DNews Sports section..."um, reading
comprehension; you know it is possible that an article about the BYU-Utah game
could appear in BOTH the Utes' AND Cougars' sections of the DNews Sports
section.Bottom line is, BYU has just as many young players as Utah;
the biggest difference is the Cougars have better players and they're better
coached.When you're down by 20 points with 5 minutes left in the
game, it's not rocket science to figure out that you can't spend 30 seconds on
each possession passing the ball around the perimeter if you're actually trying
to win the game.
Give up the dream Swoop. And yes, Colorado was better than Utah this
year. How could I say otherwise when they beat us? And yes, Iowa State was
better than OSU. If you haven't figured this out yet, this why the game is
played. Utah was better than BYU this year, try to deal with it. BYU is
ranked higher than Utah, I've dealt with it. BYU is better than the Utes
in basketball, they proved it today. And you obviously didn't catch what I
was saying about slowing the game down. The coaches slowed it down to give the
Utes a shot at winning, which was the smartest decision they could've made. It
was certainly not an attempt to lose by less as you suggest. Though even that
would still mean it creates a closer game which would seem awfully wise to
anyone with an objective mind.Of course we both know you have zero
re: GoGetter"Never seen so many Cougie trolls out on an Ute article
in one day! The Ute basketball team is nothing but freshman and a new coach,
give them a freaking break."I know Lonestar already rebutted
your erroneous comment about "nothing but freshman", but how do you
figure this is a Ute article? The first word in the title of the article is BYU
and it's located on the BYU link and the Utah link since both schools played in
Just the FAX - Your post made no sense, being that I never said
a word about freshmen, and whether they'd grow up to be great juniors and
seniors one day. That being said, I'll join the conversation by adding my
prediction that Utah will be drastically different in as little as 2 years.
Their best two players can't play right now because of transfer rules. They
would be our starting point guard and shooting guard right now if they could
play. Add 3 good recruits that have already signed, a legit center coming
off his mission, another decent center transfer and the possible return of
7'3" David Foster and this is a whole new team next year. Enjoy BYUs
success, they're a decent team. But don't be surprised to see a quicker than
expected turnaround from the Utes.
"The Ute basketball team is nothing but freshman and a new coach, give them
a freaking break."BYU roster - 17 players, 9 freshmen, 1
freshman starterUtah roster - 17 players, 5 freshmen, 0 freshmen
startersbtw, Coach k is not a new coach; he's been coaching since
1998 and was given his first head coaching job in 2003.
phantomblade | 9:31 p.m. Dec. 10, 2011 Salt Lake City, Utah@motorbike"Maybe the fact that it's in the "Utes"
section in the DNews Sports section..."um, reading
comprehension; you know it is possible that an article about the BYU-Utah game
could appear in BOTH the Utes' AND Cougars' sections of the DNews Sports
section.------------------------There's nothing funnier than
someone making fun of someone else's reading comprehension, but then finding out
you weren't comprehending what you read well enough to address the right person.
I didn't write the comment you referred to, but you sure did prove your
point didn't you! LOL.
I wouldn't be putting too much stock in David Foster if I were U motorbike. He's
a great young man, but as a basketball player, the only thing he does is block
shots; he's virtually non-existent on the offensive end of the court.I don't see any real building blocks on this year's Utah team. Jiggy is a
senior and will be gone next season. Washburn is the only other Utah player
averaging double figures, just barely.
Beatdown??? Maybe if you consider that if there was an additional half and BYU
didn't score, they likely still would have one.
Critical stretch coming up for Utah.Idaho State(2-6) and
Portland(3-7) may be Utah's last chance to beat a D1 team this season.
Congratulations to the Cougars from a Utah fan. BYU has a good team/program and
Coach Rose is a class act and a gentleman.. Good luck to them.
Lets see - The Pac 12 did not take BYU because it was a religious school that
would not play on Sunday so here is what you get - First college
football is not played on Sunday but Basketball sometimes is - so the Pac got
the Utes who can and will play on Sunday. Actually, what they got was the
Washington Generals who would play some games on Sundays. (That's the team that
always played the Harlem Globetrotters and lost - over 13,000 times ) Which is what I suspect they wanted - a team that would play but not really
challenge the powers that be.So Utes - I remain jealous of your Pac
12 status but never of that team you field. You're suppose to be a serious
player and you lose to the Buffs in football and everyone else in Basketball -
being on the big stage almost makes it even more pathetic.So
continue to mock the Cougs for who they beat but please don't lose sight of the
fact that currently you are beating -hmmm - no one. But I am glad
that we still dislike each other enough to post mean thoughts about each other -
@ uteBusters"The fact that Utah fans have to use football smack
in a basketball article shows just how desperate they are for anything to save
face".Football season is still going! Obviously BYU trolls is
now using basketball to sooth their pains from that 54-10 beat down in Provo. Oh
and by the way! We beat your football team by more than what your basketball
team did to our Utes. @ Jack-ras"Beatdown city, the
new name of the Huntsman Center".No, "Beatdown City"
is actually LaVell Edwards Stadium. 54-10 (44 point loss) vs 61-42 (19 point
loss) Which one was the bigger beatdown?
Buffs stunk it up in RES and the Cougars do the same in the HC. It's
great to be a Ute fan.It's even better to be a Cougar fan!
I'm just hapy that BYU didn't have their walk-ons in the game with 10 minutes to
go. Fullerton, Asheville, Boise, UMass, Harvard, Fresno - all whipped Utah worse
than BYU. There were a few positives to take away from the game. For first time
Utah watchers, it looked like Utah was really bad. For those of us who haven't
missed a game, we saw some decent progress. To BYU fans who booed
Coach Whit at half-time - so predictable. Show some class.
@ UU32Speaking of class....Did you see the game on Saturday? Did you
hear the boo's coming from the U students when Noah was taken out of the game?
It was interesting to hear the commentators who were not for either team
question why the u fans were booing Noah for having an excellent game. Yeah, ute
fans, keep it classy, especially on TV when everyone can hear it and even the
announcers make comments about your classless fans.
@UU33 and EddieI still remember when it was I realized how classless
utah "fans" are. I went up to the hc in the eraly 90's to watch bYU
play in the ncaa tournament. This is when they had Shawn Bradley. Most of the
players on BYU's roster were kids from Utah. When BYU came out for warmups they
were immediately booed by the utah "fans" in attendence. These same
utah "fans" continued to boo them during pre game introductions and
then throughout the entire game.Up to that point in time I hadn't
given the university of utah or its "fans" mush thought at all other
than when a game with BYU was approaching. But that is when I realized how
filled with hate for BYU they really are. They booed a bunch of players from
Utah, kids that grew up and went to high school here. And utah wasn't even
playing, just BYU.I remember how BYU fans used to cheer when they
announced the scores of other games at LES and it was announced utah was winning
or had won. That went away as the utah "fans" classlessness finally
rubbed off on BYU fans.