Hahaha, I remember there was a lot of talk at the first of the season about 2A
basketball not being competitive and that if SS played any 5A school it wouldn't
even be a game . . . Well, I guess we have our proof now. And don't make
excuses. Fremont is ranked 8th in the state overall. They beat Sky View who is
ranked 12th overall and 3rd in 4A. And it wasn't like SS won with a buzzer
beater, they beat them by 15 points, pretty convincing victory I think. Anyway,
I'm not saying that SS is untouchable obviously, they lost to Wasatch Academy,
also a very good 2A team, but I am saying that no high school team, even in 5A
is untouchable regardless of what you people up north think. A 2A just beat a 5A
by 15 points. If you're good, you're good. It doesn't matter what classification
you are in. Classification doesn't equal talent. Talent can be found anywhere.
Congratulations South Sevier.
Well done Coach Hunt!
SHOCKED!!! I thought they may loose by ten or so but very nice game good job
Boys we are proud of are RAMS you are #1 keep up the wins....
Very Convincing, way to beat Fremont and lose to Wasatch Academy? Thats like
Boise State going undefeated and then missing a field goal 2 years in a row to
take a BCS championship game oppurtunity away from them.
Nice article James. It's nice to see the ssmall town Utah get acknowledged on
some of these wins. It is also nice that Fremont filled their schedule with s
tough small school. It's a no win situation for the larger schools but it is
not bad for them. Rich has played 4A and 5A schools for years and years and now
the larger schools get just as excited when they beat a quality program like
Rich is in Volleyball as if they were playing for state. It makes it fun. Nice
job to both teams on this event. South Sevier is the real thing for sure. When
we covered these same kids with MySportsGuys last year, we knew they would be
tough again this year.
congrats S.S!!!!!!! but don't get hot in the head. the team you played isn't
that good. but still. big accomplishment
Great game ss. Hope you get wa next time
Good job SS, way to represent 2A you guys made everyone in 2A proud. Plus you
guys brought a lot of respect back with you thanks for showing the state even
the little schools can compete with the big dogs!
@Fairytale,Yes, it was a convincing win over Fremont. Losing to Wasatch
Academy only shows that there is more competition in 2A ball than people like to
think. WA probably could have beat Fremont too.
As I have calmly stated for weeks now, SS Hoops is on par with any school in the
state. SS is lucky to have Hunt, Parsons and the rest of the coaches who are on
par with ANY coaching staff in the state.
You just shot 85 percent in the second half on the road! Fremont
wont compete in 5A this year, because everyone knows there is American Fork,
West Jordan, and the best team in the state by far Lone Peak, But
much appreciation for the win! good for the SS Rams, ha he can coach up his team
to play there hearts out against 5A Fremont because if fremont won it would be
oh they should of! Nothin out of scheduling 2A or 3A, because if 5A
wins, the little schools are suppose to lose right??
Great job by SS on their victory. Once in a while you do get a small school
team that has a couple of really talented players that have D-1 ability and can
make a run at some of the larger schools in the state. But don't get too
carried away by thinking they can hang with ANY school in the state. Fremont is
a good team but they are not LP, AF, WJ, Bountiful to name a few. Having lost
already to another 2A school, doesn't help your argument. While I may differ in
opinion from the comment, it still doesn't take away from a really nice victory
for the SS team. Good luck to them as they work towards a state championship.
This was a GREAT win, however, lets realize that this "small town"
basketball that has "drawn" from several small towns over the past 10
years including from the attendance area of 2 or 3 other high schools!
I feel great for coach Hunt after the trial of his faith so to speak that took
place over the transfer deal.I don't think anyone has said that 2A
is equal to any higher classification but we have felt like our top few teams
each year can play with the the rest of the 3A-5A teams in the state. There are
some good ball teams in 2A and 1A.Thanks to teams like Fremont who
are willing to give the little guy a shot and then be nice enough to compliment
them. That, in my opinion, shows class and leadership.I must say
also that having been an Enterprise fan my whole life, it's been nice of all the
St.George schools to schedule us for the most part. We haven't won a lot of the
games but have won from time to time. Thanks to all of you that have had enough
respect for the little guys to schedule them!
Looking ahead...2a Wasatch Academy, the team that beat South Sevier, will be
playing Weber. Another 2a v 5a showdown, a team that is in the same division as
Fremont. Interesting...let's see how that game shakes out. It was fun to watch
the high quality basketball played by Fremont. Great Job Rams!!!
Sure would be fun to have a true State Tournament between all school regardless
of classification, or even have the champs from each class play each other.
More proof that a really good 1A-2A-3A can play with anyone, despite what a
4A-5A homer thinks.
Let's not go too crazy here people. Fremont played for the state title in
football, and they had to play their first basketball game the following Wed.
They then had all of Thanksgiving break off, and last week was their first week
of real practice. I will give credit to South Sevier, because I know
that they are a solid 2A school. But Fremont is hardly at full strength right
now. If these two teams played in January, I think it is an entirely different
game. I am not trying to discredit SS, but you have to understand the extra
insight of this Fremont team. They are not even close to ready for region play,
and they have barely had a week of practice. A 2A school is
obviously capable of playing with the big boys, but if you put any 2A school in
either Region 3 or Region 4 they would get destroyed over the course of a
season. Of course they would win a game or two, but they would take an absolute
beating on a night in and night out basis. Also - SS now has the best player
from another 2A, sorta like an all-star team.
I want to echo the comments about the classiness shown by Fremont. It says a
lot for them that they WERE willing to schedule South Sevier, even more so in
the way that they treated our team, coaches and fans. Their hospitality was
greatly appreciated. Fremont has some great players and coaches. Yes, there
are some awesome 5A teams this year, but I still expect Fremont to win a lot
more than they lose and pull some upsets against the 5A top dogs. (The win
against 4A SkyView was a great win already.) Good luck Fremont! Our little
valley will be pulling for you.2A will be a very competitive bracket
this year with Wasatch Academy, Manti, and South Sevier. Gunnison has also been
impressive at times.One thing you can count on with the South Sevier
club. They will stay humble and keep things in perspective. We definitely
don't have the depth enjoyed by larger schools, and we know we are not a 5A
contender, but we have players who are hard working, talented individuals that
are starting to pull together as a team, and coaches who will settle for nothing
less than best effort any given night.
I am definitely a South Sevier homer....and my opinion is biased. BUT, to blame
Fremont's loss on the idea that they aren't playing well now is nothing more
than an excuse. True, they will probably be playing better basketball in January
and will be a much improved team by then....BUT, which basketball team won't
be?The Fremont game is the only SS game I haven't seen them play so
far....and, from what I have seen, SS is playing far below their potential. I
believe a SS-Fremont game in January if it were to be played would be highly
competitive. Fremont might win that game and they might not...who knows? But,
one thing is for certain, not only would both teams be better by January, but SS
won the game in December.I, too, would love a Hoosiers type Utah
state tournament at the end of the year...my bet is that the small schools would
struggle year in and year out....but, every decade or so, we might just shock
I would like to echo those comments about the class that Fremont showed and the
fact that, yes, looked at as a whole, 2A is not as strong as 5A. However, those
that are making the excuse of SS "drawing" from other teams, or having
an all-star team don't see the whole picture. It is my opinion that the SS team
from last year, with the seniors that they lost was an even tougher team than
this years team. And that team was made up of kids that had grown up and lived
in the Monroe area their whole lives. Yes, Austin Clark is a good player, but he
can't replace two great seniors, in Winn and Baker. So you can make that excuse
if it helps you justify how good SS is, but the fact of the matter is, SS will
have a good team every year, regardless of who is on it, or where they are from.
One more thing, I believe South Sevier totally understands that Fremont went
late into the football season and aren't at their prime yet. That is a very
legitimate. (Just because we are small-town doesn't mean we are stupid). We
also get that Fremont was missing one of their best players due to a football
injury. Fremont will get much much better throughout the season. That is what
preseason is for. That said, South Sevier is still learning and growing and
already talking about what they need to do better. They will improve also, just
as they have from their previous games. How about giving some credit to
Fremont? They didn't get beat by a team that would "take an absolute
beating on a night in and night out basis". South Sevier does have some
other good wins over bigger schools, (including the Utah Summer Games Gold over
Jordan), but it's hard to put too much stock in them as they were during the
summer and we all know that summer ball just isn't the same.
@ wrkhrhvfn: You've got to add Waterford to the SS, WA, Manti teams in 2A. They
gave Wastach Academy all they could handle last night.
SS basically has a superleague team, not actually homegrown.
Stacked decks don't always turn up the cards you expect. Way to go Rams!DesNews: Are you kidding me? No, really.
Look, a win is a win. Every year Boise State thumps a big BCS school and the
win is somehow discounted because of some excuse. This excuse, that Fremont
went to the finals in football and aren't all the way ready to play yet, rings
hollow. The Monroe boys took a 3 hr bus ride to play this game and still got it
done. South Sevier has 3 really good players and a good supporting cast. The
addition of Clark makes this team formidable against anyone. Austin can play all
5 positions well. His versatility creates matchup problems for any school they
play. That said, would they be 5A Champs? Probably not... but my guess is that
they would make the semi-finals. Once this team completely gels, and the team
is well on its way, they will destroy everyone else on their schedule. Hang
another banner SS.
That's a good win for SS...and not to take anything away from that win, but
don't go Ape over a one night performance.Anytime a team shoots 85%
from the field...you are not going to beat them. These are insurmountable
numbers...65% from the field for the game....the nice thing is whoever is
playing a team that shoots 85% from the field has to match them basket for
basket...otherwise you lose by 15!Nice win Rams! It was your night!
I second what another person posted that no matter the year, no matter the
talent level, South Sevier will always be a force to be reckoned with in hoops.
I think we can say dynasty.
@Hold for the last Shot: My bad... you are right on. I shouldn't have
overlooked Waterford. I haven't seen them play yet this year, but I have heard
they can hold their own. Honestly, I was a little surprised because of the loss
of Eric Mika, but it sounds like they are another contender.@POD: I
don't know what your definition is of a "superleague team is", but I'm
pretty sure South Sevier doesn't fit the term. We do have 1 kid/family that
moved to our area to get away from an ugly situation in their own school and
town. Something we really had no control over, but given the situation, I don't
blame them. Yes, he is a great player, but you forget that we won the state
championship last year without him... with kids that have were "home
grown". I don't see South Sevier destroying everybody on their
schedule, but I can almost guarantee they will work hard and compete. As for a
banner, it is always the goal, but let's take one game at a time.
Great win for SS. I think we should see more of these games but the only time
we hear anything is when the little school wins. SS has a good team this year
and can compete with any team in the state except Lone Peak, AF, and West
Jordan. Not because they are big schools but because they are good teams. If we had a true state championship with all the classifications no 1A,
2A or 3A team would win and if they did it would be 1 in 15years. Then the
smaller schools would complain its not fair. Lets keep it how it is, SS can
beat some of these teams in pre-season but year in and year no way. SS and WA are quality teams who play in 2A. Boise St and Utah were great
football teams who played in the WAC and Mountain West its not fair but it is
the way it is.
I guess SS lives by the same rules as Juan Diego and Judge Memorial. Too bad
all 2A teams can't take another teams best player by moving just for sports.
Well folks, look at the comment board and you will understand WHY larger schools
do not play smaller schools. There is everything to lose and nothing to gain. I
would say kudos to Fremont for playing the game, but I don't think they thought
this through very well when they scheduled the game. This is definitely a lesson
for 5A schools that didn't already know it, but scheduling a 2A school is a huge
mistake. I don't care who the 5A coach is, you cannot get your kids up for a 2A
school no matter how good they are. It's a lose/lose situation. Don't look for
too many 5A schools to do this, unless it is Copper Hills. They seem to enjoy
getting beat by the smaller schools and they keep scheduling them.
speaking of Copper Hills, i believe they scheduled another 1A school this year
in Liahona. Not sure if they are as good as last year, but if they are we may be
looking at another upset??? Not a smart choice. If youre going to schedule down
that many classifications make sure its a team you are sure you can beat. A last
in region 5A vs a 2nd in state 1A was a dumb move.
Everyone will try to take something away from what SS did. People go to SS to
play basketball because they want to. They have a great program and probably the
best coach in the state. These players are not forced to go. If you had an
opportunity for your kids to have a better shot at winning wouldnt you want them
to take it? Congrats Coach Hunt and the Rams, Im happy to see a small school try
to shut these big boys up. To bad it didnt work.
A number of would be 5A players end up private schools for a myriad of reasons.
Put good coaching into them and teams like Wasatch Academy and others can bea
really good. They can lack depth but there are a lot of good players in these
smaller schools. It didn't take long for Juan Diego to pick up the pace because
their budget allowed for first rate coaching. A hoosiers type playoff would be
excellent in Utah. Unfortunately the larger schools ego's couldn't take the
occasional beating by the 1A/2A crowd.
a lot of talk on small school vs big school here, basketball is a bit different
than football (where numbers pay off), in reality, high school bball, you need 5
athletes, ball players, hoopsters, what ever you want to call them... sometimes
it comes together in a school with 300 kids... sometimes it never comes together
in a school with 1500 kids, go figure.second, you need a dedicated
coaching staff that knows the game and who get those athletes to show up and
believe.so good job SS!
@Sounds Right,SS would have beat both of the Cedar City teams last year
with all homegrown kids. I think they were even tougher last year than they are
this year. And if you put all of Sevier County together, where this apparent
recruit came from, its still not as big as Cedar City. SS's only loss this year
so far came from Wasatch Academy. They have players from all over the globe. You
just have to step up and play with them. Don't be throwin mud at SS just because
they are good.
Don't worry South Sevier fans, there is enough pledge available to keep shining
the gold trophies.
Fremot just put it self in a bad situation. you are 5A, and u cant schedule any
5A or 4A teams???If you won, you would of been told oh you should of
won your 5A there 2A, and but if you lose, this huge article goes up for beating
a power 5A, who is not that good at this time, just got out of football 2 weeks
ago. SS boys play only basketball! and they only played 5 guys against you, and
HIT 85 PERCENT of there shots in t2nd half and 70 for game. anyone
can beat anyone in this worl if you shoot it like that. Dynasty are
teams who win and win state titles.South Sevier, One state title
since 2000!2002! ha good team though. but will go 24-2 this year
losing to wasatchg academy again.
Sounds right.. Just another yahoo without the factsJD has a bunch of
sophs playing.. I don't see a bunch of 6'6" kids on their frontlineJudge is the same and their coach is solidCedar had the
biggest transfer of all this year, your QB Without Ursua, you guys dont
even make the 2a playoffs in football this past fall!
WOW!!! I love it!
@ binghamalum Your looking at this as a win/lose issue only. Fremont's looking
at it as a chance to get better. If you want to get better, you play the best.
Where else would they get a chance to play against an 85% night. They'll be
better next time against a high percentage shooting team having played that
game. Fremonts looking ahead to March, not just the next day's headlines
@binghamalum,Wow, get your facts straight please before posting anymore.
SS has won 3 State Titles since 2000. 2000, 2001, 2006, and 2011. I don't know
where you are reading. Not to mention that since 2006 SS hasn't had a season
under 20 wins and they haven't taken anything under 3rd at state. I admit its
hard to beat a team that shoots 65 percent throughout a game, but it also takes
a dang good team to shoot that well. What people are failing to mention is that
Fremont took a lot more shots than SS and only had 35 percent from the field. SS
didn't take a lot of shots, they just made the ones they did take. And who said
that SS boys only play baketball? Are you kidding me? SS boys usually play three
sports a year, sometimes four.
Many people have commented that So. Sevier caught Fremont at the wrong time and
that they were banged up from football. SS can only play who is on their
schedule, don't take this historic win away from these kids who have worked
their guts out.
SS is legit! Good for that dominant 2A school! 4 titles since 2000! sweet! It is 2A! but a state title lives for ever baby! Beating teams up
north from Region one dont hold much! but good for your five boys!
the are good!! whole lot better then me!
how many of Fremont's starters really even played football? Probably not as many
as South Seviers. Up North is gonna make excuses. Thats what they do when they
get proven wrong. No reason to be embarrased or make excuses. South Seviers a
What's funny about a lot of these comments, is that they come from people who
think they know so much about all of these schools. If you've noticed, Fremont
isn't making any excuses. As Fremont's coach said in the article, they knew S.
Sevier was good when they scheduled them, and wanted to play a great South
Sevier team. They told their guys that S. Sevier was a very good team, so
what's not to like about high school sports. For the record Colten Johnson, 4
of 5 starters for Fremont started in football, as did the first 3 guys off the
bench. Fremont's people aren't using that as an excuse. They got outplayed by
a very good team, and that's that. FYI, Brighton and Bingham dropped their
games with Fremont in July from what I here, and Fremont had to find some games.
They were happy to schedule S. Sevier, knowing what kind of reputation they
had. Don't assume you know everything about everything. Good luck to both
South Sevier and Fremont this year. Two schools with great basketball tradition.
will someone shed some light on these transfer students or kids from other towns
outside of the South Sevier boundary. I haven't heard anything about it and a
ton of comments have mentioned it. Im confused. Thanks.
The bottom line is that many kids want to play hoops at South Sevier because of
their coaching and tradition. Clark transferred in from North Sevier and did it
by the rules. This transfer decision was upheld by the UHSAA in SLC. Many seem
to think that the team is made up of kids who transfer in from all over. The
bottom line is that South Sevier hoops is and has always been made up of kids
who grow up in the school boundaries. The Clark situation is an anomoly.
An anomaly that has happened about three times in the last 6 years.
Super Trouper....What can Hunt do if kids want to play hoops for South Sevier,
put a sign on the north end of town that says "We don't want anyone else to
move to this area, especially if you have kids that want to play basketball? I
was commenting on a previous post that alluded to the fact that there are more
move in's on the team than homegrown kids.
Wow. Thats impressive for a 5a school to have so many of their basketball
players play football too. I never accused Fremont of making excuses. It looks
like their the only ones not making excuses. Its the other up north big city
schools making excuses and for a 5a school I guess Fremonts as country as it
gets. If South Sevier beat a good team like Fremont Im sure they would have seen
just as much success or more against more than half of the 5a teams up there.
JD the only thing that cheapens anything South Sevier does is your comments. And
the Clark transfer isn't an anomaly. I'm sure Wayne County would have loved it
if the Blackburn kid would have stayed there to play instead of joining Bishoff
and company at SS. So if coach Hunt does hang a sign on the north end of town
remind him to hang one on the south end too.p.s.I'm not saying
either transfer wasn't upheld or approved by UHSAA, or they weren't done by the
rules. I will say this though, Clark's shouldn't have. This will be the third
high school he's played for in as many years. Dad's Red Devils wouldn't get him
the recognition or wins, Story's Wolves didn't give him the minutes he deserved.
Next year it will be he wants a shot at the MVP so he can't play with Race at
SS. Next stop ??? Beaver? Parowan? Enterprise? lol
MM&I..You are funny. I call myself a fan. How about you? Have any kids from
any place outside of Blanding ever moved into town and happened to be talented
football players? Should Coach Lee tell them to move back to where they came
from? It is not Coach Hunt's fault if talented kids come to South Sevier with
the blessing of the UHSAA and play hoops. Sounds to me like your beef should be
with the folks in SLC not in Monroe.
Clark will stay at SS. I think he understands that he would not be MVP even at
another school. Besides, he has made friends at SS and has the supporting cast,
and is the support, that the team needs to be a great team. Watch out for SS in
the next two seasons!
SSI'm with you I don't really think Clark will transfer again. I was
speaking a little tongue in cheek. I just had to comment because I love giving
JD a hard time.
Clark is happy at SS. Winning does that for kids. He has new friends and his
family situation is much better. It is a little disappointing to see him
playing center 100% of the time. This is a kid with point guard skills that
will not have the opportunity to show them off with his current team.
Unfortunately he is SS best option at center so that is where he'll play. Good
thing for Austin is that there is always summer ball, he can play guard there.