Congrats on finding your wife at BYU, and good luck at your next university.
Hope it works out better for you!
Thats ok, there are about a half a dozen quarterbacks in the next couple of
years that may have better skills than Heaps did, have that Hill kid coming and
that kid from Idaho, quarterbacks will never be a problem at BYU.
Not a great surprise, but let's see if anyone else leaves with him...
going to Cal
Let me guess Cougar fan:Now Jake has gone from the greatest to the
BYU was known as "Quarterback U", and Bronco calls Jake Heaps "an
NFL quarterback".Message to QB recruits "We don't know how to
develop NFL talent. If you have that potential, apply elsewhere."This hurts future recruiting.
We all saw this coming! Bronco did a horrible job of dealing with this QB
situation and all his comments seem so unbelievable. I wish Jake the best adn
hope he gets a chance to come back and stick it to BYU. This coming from a BYU
fan that feel like Heaps got robbed
Good luck to Jake. Everyone has to make life decisions. Here's to hoping that he
lands on his feet and can make the best of the situation he chooses for himself.
Bad choice, Jake. Your best chances for success are with BYU. You still have a
chance to be great here, but I doubt other programs will give you a chance. I
thought you weren't a quitter. I guess I was wrong.But, in Heaps'
defense, the coaching staff hasn't exactly been fair to Heaps.
Good for Jake, hopefully he'll go somewhere his talent is appreciated and his
receivers can catch his passes. Heaps is a much Better QB than Riley, Bronco
himself said he's an NFL QB. Love how BYU just let's our most talented QB in
years go, Can't wait for the Mangum kid from Idaho to come in and run the show
though. He can flat out play! Hopefully next year BYU can also get a Solid
Runningback to step up instead of running a 30 man rotation in the back field,
Best of luck to him and hope he learned some humility and lost some of his
arrogance! Heaps should go to Cal or USC and pour it on the utes. Bronco and
others say heaps will be a excellent NFL qb, maybe but that remains to be seen I
think Nelson proved that that a pocket qb is too predictable and byu needs to go
after qbs like nelson. Quite frankly if I was an nfl coach I'd rather have a qb
like nelson or tebow than a heaps anyday.
More Importantly: Was this announcement made at Iggy's?
Moderate -Message to QB recruits - come and play with passion and
leadership or somewhere else would be better for you.
Who's going to replace the mouth that was Jake now? Hope he can find a better
place to talk and maybe even play. Too bad - he fit in so well with the BYU PR
machine - just not with his TEAM! BYU will be better off for sure - I may even
root for them on occasion next year - maybe. Go Utes!
I guess the DN's prediction that Heaps was set to be the next Jimmer this year
was a bit off. I now anxiously await the off-season hype for 2012.
What NCAA rules apply to transferring from an independent status team? Does he
have to sit out a year? Heaps has a lot of talent and I hope it works out well
I am a huge Cougar fan, always have been, and always will be. And I usually
don't comment in the sports section, but felt angered enough to comment on this
news:1st, BYU makes no effort and chokes at getting an invite to the
Big 12;2nd, BYU makes little effort and chokes at getting an invite
to the Big East;3rd, Bronco's "man crush" on
"No-talent Nelson" has cost BYU one of the best recruits they have
ever had, Heaps.I hate to admit it. No, I really, really hate to
admit it, but I think Chris B. has finally got a prediction right: The Cougars
are in a nose dive straight toward mediocrity.I guess I will just
have to get used to "looking forward" to future bowl games against
power-houses like Tulsa and UTEP.
Good luck Jake. Wish you were sticking with BYU. You could still have a great
career here. Doman's credibility and reputation takes another hit. Promoting
Doman to OC is looking more and more questionable by the week.
wait shouldn't he at least play in the bowl game?
Well, so much for the number 1 recruit out of high school. I thought you Y fans
beleived Heaps was the quarterback of the future and not Riley Nelson? Jake
Heaps turned out to be the biggest joke. I mean seriously, what kind of high
school kid has a public press conference at a sports bar to announce his college
of choice? Then when he plays he underachieves! If you want to have a good
laugh, watch Jake Heaps play quarterback in the 2011 Utah-BYU game. haha
Say it ain't so Jake! Where is our National Championship? Sad that it
didn't work out for you and BYU, but wish you best of luck wherever you end
up.Mike Leach at Washington State is a QB guru and may be a better
fit. All the best Jake.
I wish Jake the best with whatever team picks him up. To those that don't think
the coaching staff gave him a chance I would disagree. They kept him as the
starter until they really had no choice but to give someone else a chance.
Don't you remember when you where screaming for the coaches to take him out.
IMO he just was not ready. Not long ago an article ran that mentioned the
frequent meetings that Bronco and Heaps were having. I can't say for sure but I
think Bronco probably suggested red-shirting next year with the opportunity to
earn the starting spot back and play as a junior and senior. For whatever reason
he didn't feel that he could do that. Maybe he had it in his mind that he would
be leaving BYU next year for the NFL anyway.Again, Jake, good luck and
sorry it didn't work out for you.
I don't think this is a loss for BYU football. Heaps just didn't work,
period.He may have a good career somewhere.
Will Tanner still come to BYU?BYU wants a running QB that throws.
Tanner's not a runner. Tanner can throw like no other, but if BYU can't develop
him, or won't use him, he may be better off somewhere else.
Worst season Bronco has ever had at the Y (just a year after his best season).
Both he and Doman bungled this one. At least BYU has a great basketball program.
I don't see BYU winning big-time games against TCU, Texas and other elite
football programs with riley nelson at QB. Please start someone else next year
besides riley nelson.
Note to potential QB recruits to BYU: those with QB skill sets need not apply.
If you have a linebacker mentality come on down.
I'm sad to see Heaps leave and I wish I could've seen him succeed at BYU. That
being said, the future talent coming in would make it hard for him to ever
regain his starting position. Good luck Jake where ever it is you land.
I hope Heaps can transfer somewhere that can use his talents. Have a good one!
Apo is next! BM handled this kid all wrong. Riley is AVG with no upside. QB
recruits will see this as a negative. This program is sinking faster than the
Good luck to you Jake. You were fun at times to watch. There is enough current
depth at QB and more coming up the ranks soon (e.g. Mangum) to keep the team
strong and the fans happy. I'm sure the Athletics Department, the coaches and
fans learned a few things from this experience. In the end, I think Jake
realized with only two years left of eligibility, he was not likely to be the
starting QB next year and this is the best move for him and his family.
After that garbage time 3 and out Saturday in Hawaii, I figured as much. Good luck to him. I hope he can learn to take an occasional hit. I won't mind watching him play elsewhere.
I grew up as a Washington State Cooog fan and graduated from BYU...Young
Man--This is a Great Time to move to Pullman and Learn From THE PIRATE!!!AAARGH!!This way, everyone wins!BTW, Good Luck to BYU,
Fred Vader,I think you're too much in love with recruiting numbers
and not reality. Heaps may have physical talent, but he has no mental
capabilities of making decisions that will move the offense. Riley may not have
the stats or physical talent because he throws an imperfect spiral, but he moves
the offense and can rally the team. Riley is what BYU needs, not Heaps.
Hopefully Heaps can develop into a star with his next team, but it's time to say
goodbye. He can't produce the offense here like Riley can, and that is reality.
let the "NFL caliber" QB go...and keep the QB coach?hmmmmmm
Best move by far for Jake. Doman's offensive schemes did a huge disservice for
Heaps based upon his skill set. Jake would never thrive at BYU with Doman as the
OC. Nelson is much better suited for the new BYU "Domoffense." Too bad
Doman was unwilling to adjust his offense...they could have been an explosive
team with Heaps.Jake, good luck to you and your family!
Jake Heaps made a good decision. The Cougars are going another direction with
quarterbacking. With Doman as offensive coordinator, a dropback qb is not going
to work. Whoever is coaching the OL cannot get it done. They are too soft in
my opinion. BYU will always be suspect in the defensive secondary as well.
Jake going to the University of California? Who can verify that officially.
Jake is not tough enough to be a legitimate Division I QB in my opinion, and he
is not elusive enough to stay out of trouble when plays break down. I think
more thinking should go into who BYU recruits at the QB position. We need a
robocop the way the collegiate game has evolved, and the lack of animals who
want to block up front. Riley Nelson is as if he is on a survivor reality show.
He is being brutalized out there. We need mobile, quick qb's with more depth
at receiver (including tighends who can block and run after they get the ball.
Not enough team speed in general and people who want to battle for 60 minutes.
In short we need more animals being recruited. But wait; student athlete.
I don't think that the guys Jake 'recruited' will leave with him. Apo is having
a Boss year as a RS freshman, even with Riley throwing to him. If he leaves he
will lose a year of eligibility. Van Noy, same. He could red-shirt, but with the
year he has had I don't see him leaving to sit somewhere next year. Stout is
red-shirting this year and if he left would lose a year of eligibility. The
only reason they would leave is if they felt they weren't being treated fairly
and I don't think any of them would feel that way.
It appears that playing exhibition games as an irrelevant non-AQ independent was
not appealing to young Mr. Heaps.Welcome to the PAC 12 and big boy
I love all the "ifs" and "buts" coming from all the armchair
QBs out there...If "ifs" and "buts" were candy and nuts,
we'd all have a merry Christmas!Bottom line is this, Heaps got beat
out fair and square. Nelson has earned the right to start and be the guy. I wish
Heaps well, but don't let the door hit you on the way out buddy...
Best of luck Jake. I will continue to follow your career, and wish you the best
wherever you end up.For those concerned with Van Noy or Apo
transferring with him: I can't imagine it will happen. Both are currently on
track to play in the NFL. Van Noy is a clear leader on defense and is a point of
focus during every broadcast. Apo had 9 touchdowns as a Freshman and already
used his redshirt. Sitting out a year with a transfer makes absolutely no sense.
Haha so much for heaps being the next Steve Young. Byu fans are oblivious to the
world outside of the little happy valley
Him and his young family? Not even going to touch that one. No idea how this can be spun into good news for BYU. This kid was
homegrown and feed right into the BYU program. His development was awful from
the coaching standpoint. You have to break a kid with his arrogance down a
little before you can start building. The kid is a headcase, but
I'd love his talent with some real coaching, like Whit and Chow. Talk about another big hit for BYU football.Remember the day he
signed? Now let the backtracking from the jubilant posters of that day begin.
Not a surprise here at all. I wish Jake nothing but the best wherever he ends up
at. Things just didn't work out for him at the Y. This happens all the time at
multiple colleges. But, in all honesty, Jake only has the person he looks at in
the mirror for the main reason he failed here. He didn't produce this year, pure
and simple. He had more than ample chances to succeed. With that being said,
I'll root for Jake wherever he lands.
Obviously, this is a coaching issue since Jake would have to sit out a year
whether he stays or goes. Anyone with half a brain knows Jake has the best QB
skills this side of Andrew Luck. Since Bronco's golden boy is named Riley, Jake
is looking at another wasted year if he stayed. Redshirting at BYU next year
would result in the same playing time as he will have anywhere else next year.
BYU recruiting just took a big hit. This just tells kids that BYU's coaches
cannot develop talent.
Alpine Coug I think you are right he will go home to Washington State and play
for Mike Leech, he is a throw first coach and runs that type of offensive. Jake
Heaps has never been taught that there is a team concept to football, thats were
he will struggle the most, he thinks its all about him not the team.
As for Ute Trolls and Cougar fans with little intelligence that continue to let
their dim light so burn opaque you really need to stop coming in here and making
fools of yourself. BYU is going to be just fine. This years NC game proves that
it is only to showcase the best conference in the nation (THE SEC) with all
other AQ conferences only being an SEC strength of schedule booster all be it a
rather weak one. Therefore, being in the PAC-12 is beginning to matter even
less. Sure it is nice to have yearly battles with 'prestigious' institutions and
a division and or conference title to play for, but that is only one very small
aspect of why the athletes lace up their cleats to play. I bet most of them just
play for love of the game. The best thing about today is that in 40 days all
this quacky nonsense will go silent for a while.
Bummer for BYU, Jake and the fans. We will miss you brother but certainly our
support goes with you.
I wish Heaps the best in his new start. Riley has played exceptionally well, so
I don't blame the coaches for this at all. They couldn't have done things much
differently in my opinion.
Football is an animal sport; you are better than football Mr. Heaps----you will
always have fans in Utah----sad to see you leave; will follow you in the
This news hurts. Everyone who says Nelson is the better leader might be right,
but Nelson will only be able to take the Cougars so far because he is as good
right now as he is going to be. BYU will continue to struggle
against the top-30 teams going forward because those teams are better equipped
talent wise to overcome Nelson's combination of leadership with limited skill
set. An improved Heaps, however, would have given BYU a better shot at knocking
on the BCS door 2-3 years from now.Now, that BCS timeframe is harder
see and will be at least 5 years away. Nelson will be as good next year as he
is this year and BYU will once again beat the majority of their opponents, but
struggle against the upper tier teams. After Nelson is yet another new guy . .
Bronco fumbles again. If you were Heaps why would you stay with an OC that is
still on training wheels? They dumped him for cheap wins over WAC teams. Let
me repeat, they dumped him for cheap wins over WAC teams. This staff is not
interested in building BCS seasons, they are going for meaningless wins instead
of building for next year.Heaps has now gone from greatest of all
time to a bumbler. Go cougar fooseball. 54-10
Hopefully he can go somewhere where the coaches have as much potential as he
does and where there is a coach that can see the talent that is there and knows
what to do with it. I would be very surprised to see Mangum actually enroll at
BYU. I guess he will have two years to decide what is best for him. BYU is
rudderless right now.
The rah rah is now over for the wonder kid at BYU. Never has such hype been
overblown.Rather Heaps panned out at BYU or not, the hoopla was
annoying nonetheless. These so called big high school signings are such an
unknown. I feel the same about Chase Hansen. I have seen him play. he is a man
among boys in high school. He will now have to play against the big boys.
Heaps is a great young talent with the wrong offensive coordinator. Might he
follow wherever Rob Anae ends up? Whichever school, I wish him well. I truly
hope the "BYU curse" that has followed potential and former Y
quarterbacks does not follow him, ala Ben Olson, Brett Engemann, Sean Salisbury,
etc. As far as Doman as OC, for me the jury is still out on him. Doman was
never a great passing quarterback in the true BYU tradition, and struggled
without Luke Staley behind him. Of course, he did not have the benefit of
working with some of the great OCs of the past. Doman has yet to show me the
potential and innovation of a Doug Scovil, Ted Tollner or Mike Holmgren. Even
Norm Chow learned from and rode the coattails of these great offensive minds.
BYU will be fine, and has some great quarterbacks in the pipeline. I do not
know if the Y currently has the best coach for them. Ty Detmer seems to be more
qualified to coach an offense, and has a great, innovative offensive mind.
BYU did Heaps a disservice by having him conduct a press conference and announce
that they would win a national championship. It is well known that his
teammates didn't really like him because it was all about Heaps. Hopefully he
has learned that you need your team to win and that if you win the NFL
opportunity will take care of itself; that it isn't all about personal stats.That being said, it was pretty clear that his throwing skills (at least
velocity) were above the rest of the team when you watched the receivers not
being able to handle his bullets.It is silly to criticize Doman for
not supporting Heaps, isn't that why Anae was removed last year; Doman was in
the Heaps camp? Perhaps if Doman was in the booth the first two games Heaps
might have been able to do better.....
"Mike Leach at Washington State is a QB guru and may be a better
fit."Alpine Coug:You're on to something there.
Wazzou might as well hang out a sign: "Welcome BYU Black Sheep!"
This is a shame, but what is he supposed to do? The fans turned on him, his
teammates turned on him, and so did the coaches. I suspect he will do very well
in another program and BYU fans will be wondering how they let him get away.
Another squandered opportunity.
I wouldn't mind having him at the U, he would fit in great with the offense they
Wow, not a surprise here at all. If R Nelson is the kind of QB we need, then it
will be a long year in '12. For all those folks who love his hustle, grit,
mentality, blah, blah, blah......talk to me when he leads the team over a ranked
or even good team who is going to a relevant bowl game. It would also be nice
to get BYU ranked again in the top 25, before beating another unranked team in a
bowl game. ( that is if we can beat Tulsa? ) Somebody tell me where the upside
is next year with him at QB. Here's looking towards 2013!
There are few others with as much talent as far as the fundamenals than Jake.
Unfortunately, he lacked in his willingness to take chances on the field. I'm
guessing someone coached him to avoid getting hurt at all costs. Additionally,
he did not appear to provide the leadership role that was needed in that
positon. To be successful in that position, you have to excell in each of these
three areas.Nelson has excellent skills as well, but he also appears
willing to take risks when needed and take on some of that critical leadership
I look forward to the Iggy's press conference where we will learn of his new
I am guessing Washington State with new head coach Mike Leech. Someone else said
Cal. Either way Heaps is going to be a REALLY good QB - he has all the
intangibles including a big arm, quick release, 6'2" solid frame. Heaps is
making the right choice no question. This was NEVER going to work under Doman
and Heaps knew it. Had Anae stayed Heaps would have been great this year since
he finished strong last year under Anae. BYU just keeps getting bad news after
more bad news. No BIG 12 and now no future QB. Good luck BYU trying to attract a
QB with the potential that Heaps had especially since BYU is left out in
independent waste land. The shoe to drop will be Bronco leaving after his 3 year
contract expires. BYU football is headed for mediocrity. Sad to see this once
great football program crumble into dust.
Realist101: Please enlighten us on the real world.
One of the things I hate about college football is the way it grinds up and
spits out players. They function as cogs in the machinery of public image and
money merchandising.Heaps had to deal with all of Provos loudmouthed
arm chair quarterbacks who believe, between bites of hot dogs and popcorn, they
could play the game better than he any day of the week.
Re: Go Utes "I guess the DN's prediction that Heaps was set to be the next
Jimmer this year was a bit off. I now anxiously await the off-season hype for
2012." What a coincidence. I was thinking the exact same thing about your
Utes & 2012. Since the Southern Division champ and playing in the Pac 12
Championship did really work out as scheduled (darn Colorado!), no doubt a BCS
championship will be in order next year? Can't wait.
What a year for BYU football.Pac-12 - NOMWC - NOWAC - NOIndependence - If we have toThen...54-10Followed by...Big-12 - NOBig
East - NOAnd now...Another #1 overall high school QB
recruit transferring.All the spin in the world can't help the Cougs
2011 will forever be remembered as a year of infamy in BYU Sports annals. A
year that seemingly began with such infinite promise has exploded into a total
disaster. Afraid that it may mark the beginning of the end for any relevance
that BYU football program had built up over the years.The failure to
finalize an invite from the Big XII was the major body blow to a program with
higher aspirations and today's loss of Jake Heaps was the icing on the cake.I hope that I am wrong, but the future seems bleak for the moment. What
a horrible year. Will gladly eat crow if the administration is able to return
BYU to relevance as an independent.
Once again a case of "counting your chickens before they hatch."Go Utes!
Heaps' loss of legitimacy and respect from teammates (and fans) started with
letting the Ole Miss defender that intercepted his pass go right on by without
even making an effort to stop him. Deserved, or not, Heaps has developed the
image of 1) a prima donna, and 2) a bit of a wuss. Teammates will respect a
less-refined hard-nosed QB who pounds through and has his best game ever three
weeks after having a collapsed lung, but not the kid who seems afraid to play
smash-mouth football like a man, regardless of the natural talent/skills he
brings with him. I think it's just too hard for Jake Heaps to regain what has
already been lost, and it's his own fault. Play hard, play sweaty, play bloody,
or don't step out onto the field. I think Heaps can be a great (not just a good)
quarterback, but he's got to stop being a kid.
Why will Heaps be so much better next year, but Nelson is as good as he will
Awesome! Riley has found a way to upset both USU and BYU fans, but I think the
real factor in this has been Brandon Doman by not hiring an offensive
coordinator that matched up with Heaps skills. Heaps best move will be to find a
program he likes with an offensive coordinator that understands him. Doman's
ability to match up with Riley stood out. Too bad a Norm Chow type couldn't have
been there for Heaps.
54-10He's still better than Wynnie and Hays combined. lol
It would have been interesting had BYU been able to get an invite into the BIG
12. I am betting Heaps might have stayed at BYU had the BIG 12 taken taken the
Y. I think Heaps would have eventually caught on to the Doman offense but I
really think it came down to Heaps knowing he was going to have to red-shirt
next year whether he transferred or stayed and why red-shirt at BYU (a non BCS
school) when he is most likely going to a Pac 12 school. Well - now
BYU fans can get all excited for next season knowing they have a 5'11"
running QB ready to go. BYU football is in trouble.
Just an idea about being CIVIL during this Christmas season--WHY
would anyone want to call Heaps a "BYU Black Sheep??"That's just mean-spirited...Come on guys--we Ought to Better than
Sad to see Heaps go. I hope he lands on his feet somewhere. Tons of potential,
interesting to see if it can be developed. Is he the next Ben Olson?BYU will be fine at QB and another #1 qb prospect is already in the pipeline.
Could be tough when, not if, Nelson goes down again though.
some have mentioned Washington State and Mike Leach.Do you really
think "happy feet" Heaps will replace a kid with the mental toughness
to play over half a game with a lacerated internal organ?
ModerateThis will strengthen BYU recruiting, not weaken it. It says,
everyone has a chance based on ability. Being the starter depends on
performance, not on press clippings and your father's publicist.
Sad day for the Cougs. I was definitely frustrated with Jake at the first of
the season but I felt he would develop into a great QB over the next 2 years. I
wish him well at his next school.
As a QB coach of 19 years I will tell you that Jake has some serious problems in
his release. Feet are generally two close together and very little bend in his
lead knee. He also has a fascination with throwing the ball harder than is
required. It seemed to me, watching him in practice and games, that he was just
as pleased with a good looking deep ball that was incomplete as he was with a
short completion. That, along with his locking on to recievers and lack of
mental and physical toughness doomed him as a BYU QB. He needs some maturity,
plain and simple. Playing for BYU and their fair weather fans is tough on any
kid. Does anyone here remember Robbie Bosco being booed his senior year after
leading us to a National Championship the year before? I do. I was on that
team as a freshman QB. I have come to understand why U fans hate Y fans. I
don't like them either. But I love my Cougs.
I think he should have redshirted and stuck around. He could have the team for
two years after that. Nelson earned the spot when he saved the
team's bacon in the USU game. Heaps did fine against lousy teams, but folded in
the Utah game. They should have yanked him then--Nelson might have given us a
fighting chance, and maybe hung onto the ball and not thrown it to the bad guys
so many times. And maybe Riley could have beaten Texas--everyone else has,
Bye Jake, I think you made a great decision to leave. The Coach apparently did
not like you even though you have done an outstanding job. I hope you go to a
great school. Look up Urban Meyer, I would bet he will jump at a chance for a
QB of your caliber.
Here's some Seattle news on Heaps' decision:"Heaps, 6 feet 1,
200 pounds, will not speak to the media right away, but he explained his
decision to former Washington quarterback Taylor Barton."I
really respect and like coach Mendenhall, he's a great man," Heaps said in
an interview . . . ." "I've learned a lot about football from coach
(Brandon) Doman. There are so many great guys on this team, it's going to be
really hard to leave them. I've had some time to think about this decision and
it's not one I came to lightly. I have no idea where I'm going to end up, and
haven't talked to anyone. There are a lot of great programs out there, and I'm
excited to do some research and find the right fit.""Potential destinations for Heaps include Washington, Washington State,
Cal and USC."I doubt any of the Washington schools, but USC . .
Heaps: Talented kid who lost his confidence.This stuff happens folks
all the time in college sports. No one to blame.Best of luck to
Heaps in his future.
I knew the Ute fans would be blasting this. "BYU thought their #1
highschool recruit was then next best thing" uh......yeah, he was the #1
fricken recruit in high school. You all did too! Then again, Id leave too if my
back up came in and out played me. Good Bye Jake!
Hey utesies?What great pitch you got for recruits? Come play for a
permanent bottom dweller Pac team, you'll lose to Colorado and have to sit
behind Wynnie and Hays. wow, what an opportunity there!!! All they got to throw
at recruits is if you like playing D come on down.
I hope Heaps goes somewhere that BYU plays down the road and Heaps burns BYU
badly...Bronco would desire it.
Great Post @Spitvalve
Winning a starting spot won't be an easy task at any legitimate school other
than a transfer to Utah. Ben Olson's seat on the bench may me a good model.
Jake reminds me of the Drew Miller situation almost, except the last laugh is
yet to come. Drew then went to Div I-AA and took Montana to the title game.
well, byu obviously has done a terrible job with this situation..
Jarka-usWhat are you smoking? A hurt Wynn beats a healthly Heaps
You Ute trolls on here have a very short memory. Jordan Wynn was supposed to be
the second coming of Alex Smith. How has that panned out? All is not well in
the Ute camp when it comes to QB recruits. Your #2 QB was switched back from
ILB. Give me a break. BYU has Taysom Hill and Parker Mangum headed here after
serving as missionaries. I will predict right now that both of them have the
mental accuity and toughness required to play at BYU. Utes have Chase Hansen
coming. Should be an interesting few years to come.
Just another example of what's wrong with the rising generation (some of them at
least). No loyalty. No commitment to their word. It's all about him. I liked
Jake and I think he could have developed the maturity to play at the next level
by redshirting a year then taking over when Riley left, but he didn't have the
patience. I wish him only the best, but if it were my son in this situation, I
would have sat him down and said "if you want to get to the NFL you need to
fix the problems that dropped you to second string. Transferring to another
school isn't fixing the problems." He played well enough to win against the
lesser teams on BYU's schedule both seasons he played. Transferring to a
conference full of teams like that might improve his stats and number of wins,
but it wont improve his game. If I were an NFL scout I would notice how he did
against whom. I would not be impressed by improved numbers against lessor
I wonder if Bronco was smiling and giggling when he said all the nice things
about Heaps. He's got such a man crush on Nelson that he has to be glad Heaps
is leaving. Heaps was the future of BYU football. Hopefully Taysom
Hill stays the course or else BYU is going to be hurting at QB.
Best of luck to Jake in his future career, wherever that may be.IMHO
Jake was not accurately handled or evaluated, but he was treated
fairly...perhaps to a fault.From my own (layman) observation, I
think coaches felt the pressure to get the top recruit on the field too quickly,
hence the two-quarterback experiment Bronco admits hampered the progress of both
quarterbacks and the team. Riley's injury forced Jake into action before he was
ready. He really struggled, but pulled it together against weak competition.
From all accounts, Jake wows in practice and drills, but it doesn't translate to
the heat of the game.Anyone who watched this year observed that Jake
was too eager to get rid of the ball, locked on his primary receivers, was next
to immobile, feared to stand in and take a hit, and, most importantly, could not
move the chains. It NEVER changed. He did not progress. His performance was a
major reason for the Texas loss and the near-loss to Utah State. BYU won against
Ole Miss and UCF in spite of Jake. They actually held on too long before the
last ditch resort of bringing in Riley. You can only wait on potential so
long.Doman coached Beck and Hall...I don't put it on him. Doman's
"scheme" changed when it had to with Riley coming in.Not
to worry, there are good QB's in the pipeline. Go BYU, beat the Golden 'Canes!
Geez, Ute fans, chill! There is a good chance Heaps will be your QB! Your
welcoming committee better not be made up of the Ute fans like you guys.
Ah, so many experts, so little wisdom. Jake had his chances. He missed open
receivers, overthrew receivers who only needed to catch the ball for a
score.The name of the game is win. Jake could not. Riley can. That's
the way of the world. The experts here blame the coaches. Jake had more
opportunites than most. For whatever reason, he didn't produce.Bronco over-extended when he called Jake an NFL quarterback. Perhaps he is a
potential NFL quarterback. At the moment, he doesn't fit the mold of a Division
I quarterback.That aside, Jake still has time to prove us all wrong.
jarka-rus | 12:28 p.m. Dec. 5, 2011 Layton, UtahBotton
dwellers of the PAC don't play in the Sun Bowl.
Goll, he would have won multiple national championships here in Provo UTah.
Utah Utes need a QB! What are the chances?
This might be the last we ever hear of Jake Heaps.
I am a fan of Riley Nelson, and I think he earned his role with game
performance. I think a key factor with the QB situation is that Anae is gone and
Doman was not able to help develop and improve Heaps. Heaps has cannon arm, but
never seemed to handle pressure well. It will be interesting to see how well he
does somewhere else.Good luck at your next stop. Maybe this time he
will choose somewhere with coaches with a proven track record of developing
quarterbacks. Doman was a step back for Heaps. UW and Sarkisian would be a good
fit. USC? Maybe Boise State and Peterson?
The Ute trolls needed some good news this weekend, so now they are out like
cockroaches. Sad but not surprised to hear Prince Jake is defecting.
I don't blame Bronco or Brandon. Jake has had every opportunity to take it to
the next level in the past two years, and he hasn't done it. The idea that he
will be able to develop anywhere else fails to take into account that wherever
he goes, he'll take his issues with him. Can't run away from problems. The
only way out is through.Good luck to him, but the probability of him
playing in the NFL has dropped, not gone up with this move. Wouldn't be
surprised to see him back in Washington State. He's perfect here.
The trolls crack me up . . . In September, U were ridiculing Heaps
for being the most arrogant, poor performing, can't take a hit QB to ever play
at BYU.Today, U are acting like we lost the best player to ever set
eyes on BYU and our program is now doomed forever.The truth is . . .
Heaps has a ton of potential. He didn't reach his potential either because of
the system or his own inability. He simply got beat out by Nelson for the
starting QB. It's tough to ever recover from being the starter and being
benched. Heaps situation is almost identical to Garrett Gilbert at Univ of
Texas.I was hoping Heaps would stick around, but I didn't think he
would. His ego is too big to handle being on the bench or redshirting. (Big
egos aren't always a bad thing.)If Heaps goes to WSU, we'll get to
face him in 2013.Heaps situation will have no impact on future QBs
or Van Noy, Apo or Stout.The QB pipeline is still deep at QBU.2012 - Nelson, Lark, Munns (Ammon Olsen and Taysom Hill RedShirt)2013 - Munns, Hill, Olsen2014 - Hill, Olsen, Alex Kuresa (Tanner Mangum
VegasUteGuaranteed just like the Colorado game?
Baddog, you've obviously watched a lot of games with both Heaps and Nelson, NOT!
How about we keep Heaps and trade Bronco and Holmoe for a coach and athletic
director to be named later.
Heaps was thrown into a spotlight that he just never had a chance to live up to.
Leaving now just pegs him as a quitter and I doubt he'll recover in any quality
program. If he and the coaching staff had the patience to allow him to work his
way into the system I think he would have been a great qb. He was just too young
and inexperienced at this level to start as a freshman. His ego got in the way
and everyone bought into it.I think we have a wealth of quality qb's
coming so it won't hurt the program.Good luck Jake.. you'll need a
lot of it wherever you go.
Here is the reality of it........BYU's BACK-UP QB chooses to transfer. THE
BACK-UP! Feel me?
What a baby. He loses the starting job, loses it, and now he wants to leave?
Stay and man up, face the team who doesn't like you and earn their respect back.
Now you'll just be viewed as a talented kid who didn't work at it (earning back
respect). Nelson probably should have transferred after last season but he
stayed, stuck it out, won back the starting job, and showed his teammates that
he's a team player and one who will work hard so the team can win.Good luck in the future, Jake, you'll need it. Chances are good that this
type of thing will happen again at the next school.
How is this Independence thing going? lol
@ CougFaninTXYou forgot to add Chase Hansen for the 2014 rotation
after he transfers following his mission.
Is Apu going with him?
@ Daddiooh | 12:48 p.m. Dec. 5, 2011 Orem, UT It's Cougar fan
who has turned on Heaps.
Whoa Nellie, Baddog is actually right on. Heaps has WAY more ability than
Nelson, that's for sure. But skill and ability don't always translate to the
stat that means the most- WINS. Look no further than the tebow
situation. If you've watched the bronco's games over the past 2 months you
realize how terrible Tebow has been at times. But he's now 5-1 as a starter,
becuase he is a proven leader who steps up in crunch time and wills his team to
victories. Similarly, Riley Nelson's skills (and decision making) are quite
average. But he competes like no-one else on the team and has a drive to win.
He really is a mini-tebow in that sense. Heaps = Orton.
"Geez, Ute fans, chill! There is a good chance Heaps will be your
QB!"Daddiooh:That may not be a bad thing. Hypes has
already established he can get the ball to the guys in the red jerseys!
Everybody wants to blame the coaches and they do have to take some blame but it
is not as though Jake didn't get his chances, he got plenty of chances and he
just didn't play well, he would never have been benched if he had played they
way (I think)he should have and the way most people think he has the talent to
play. He didn't perform up to his potential or even close and so he was benched.
I don't blame the coaches, they needed to win and Heaps wasn't playing well
enough and Nelson was brought in and he performed better and the team responded
better under Nelson. This could work out better for BYU and Taysom Hill ,
he will return from his mission in Jan. and go thru spring ball, learn the
system and then be ready to take over when Nelson either gets hurt or the next
yr when Nelson is gone.
... And there goes the poster boy of the "quarterback factory".I wonder how this will effect BYU's recruiting? I'm sure all incoming
athletes are following this...Hand in there Band of Lil' Brothers.
It seems a lot of fans have short-term memory loss. Jake has tangibles--not
intangibles--but tangibles don't always work. We have seen that in the past
with other quarterbacks as well. But I am beginning to think Riley
has the potential to get better. I am old enough to remember Steve Young
playing, and I see several similarities. And one characteristic that goes hand
in hand with "intangibles" is a burning desire to get better and prove
naysayers wrong. Can Riley learn to throw the ball better, as Steve Young did?
Probably. can he learn to make better decisions? Probably. Is he willing to
put in the work to accomplish those things? I would certainly not bet against
him. He could end up a very fine quarterback, indeed.
@ Jarka-rus"He's still better than Wynnie and Hays
combined".Records and history books say other wise.Hypes 0Wynn 2Enough said!
First off, I wish Jake the best. I have mixed feelings but hopefully he chooses
a university that is a good fit for him and he can be the starter.Secondly, gotta love all these ignorant comments about the reasons Heaps is
leaving. Bottom line is that he is not the starter and wants to be, so he is
doing what he needs to do to be that.Go Cougs!
@RSLJAZZBYUUTAHQB's never a problem at BYU? From Sarkesian to Doman
I have more than a few names that prove QB's have been and can be a problem at
BYU. Shoemaker, Feterik, Miller, Engeman and Peterson. Out of those five I think
Feterik may have a winning record as a starter. Although BYU went at least .500
or better each of those four seasons 1997-2000.
@Bleed Crimson:Typical Ute comment. Irrelevant to the article lol. But
since we are off-subject, how's that Ute basketball team thing going?
@Bleed Crimson, Independence is going great. Loving the huge ESPN contract.
Going to a bowl game! Hows the Sac-12? Hows KJZZ, and whatever else the Ute
games come on? Our high schools play on KJZZ too!
This isn't going to hurt BYU's recruiting efforts. Everyone knows Hypes blew his
chance. BYU has great QBs coming in.
Thanks Bronco for mishandling when he did play and showing no loyalty to a guy
who could have played for any college in the nation, yet chose to go to BYU
obviously because of his LDS loyalty. Jake Heaps was the victim of
the worst play calling I have ever witnessed for the 1st 5 games, it was almost
a constant run twice and pass on 3rd down, the worst scenario he could have
possibly been put in.You have successfully turned the greatest
passing traditions into a run first team, I am sick.
I hope jake can find a home suitable to his abilities and desires for his
future. It's too bad he didn't make the decision to go on a mission after his
first year. He would have returned more prepared to handle things and be more
focused. Let's hope that Mr Hansen doesn't make the same mistake at the U. As
for me I would rather have a mentally and physically tough QB that rallies and
inspires his teammates to do great things, rather then a talent ladened QB who
is not able to get the job done. BTW anyone see a much maligned QB over in
Denver and he has accomplished. He keeps getting trashed by all the experts and
yet he continues to win. How long it lasts is anyone's guess, but in the mean
time you have to respect and admire his grit. The same is true of Mr Nelson. As
for the U fans and all there derision I would remind you of your blanket
statements regarding being in the Rose Bowl whereas all that came out of BYU was
a stated goal and/or desire to compete in and for a National Championship. Isn't
this the same thing you want for the U? If the answer is no then why did Cris
Hill take you guys into a Conference where you might become like ASU, U of A and
never really reach your potential. At least you can say you played in two BCS
bowls as a member of a Non-AQ conference. Good luck in the Sun Bowl.
Heaps has every right to transfer, I don't blame him, though I had hoped he
would redshirt and stick around. Best of luck to the guy - I think he missed
opportunities to shine, and I think the coaching decisions did him no favors.Riley Nelson has been very good - too many whiners here. Yes, we lost
the TCU game, but we played an entertaining game and really the punting game
lost it more than the turnovers. And TCU is pretty good. If we played as well as
we did in that game without the punting miscues, we'd win our share of games vs.
top 20 teams.Riley has his next chance to shine against Tulsa...and
why on earth do people assume he can't get better? Plenty of great college teams
were led by guys with heart who are not built like prototypical NFL QBs.
Good luck, Jake. Sorry things didn't work out better for you - other than the 2
losses to Utah, of course.
@WA_Alum&DadHis problems may be left behind at BYU. I don't
think Bronco ever supported him 100% as a starer. To prove my point Max Hall
imploded his Jr. year in the Holy War turning the ball over as many times as
Heaps did this year. Not to mention Hall had more experience and was more
polished when he did it than Heaps. Yet there was no QB controversy going into
Hall's senior year after the worst game of his BYU career. Maybe Hall benefited
from not having anyone to legitimately challenge him for a starting spot but if
he had I still think Bronco would have stuck with him.If you're
right and Heaps ends up at WSU he'll have his best chance to prove you wrong and
make it to the NFL. Mike Leach is the new head coach for the other Cougars and
we know what lessor QB's have done in a Mike Leach system at Texas Tech.
I would like to have seen him stick around until Fall camp to see if he could
beat out Nelson, then transfer if he did not. It almost seems like he is
quitting without putting up a fight. There is no way he can think he deserves to
start in front of Nelson at this point. I do wish him success wherever he
ends up.I can now look forward to Hill and Mangum.
I can see the headline now "Heaps transfers to the Utes Chase's' Hansen to
the Cougs". And anyone who thinks he would transfer to Wasington where he'd
be third string behind Price and Montana doesn't know much.
Please tell me he is going to u.
I'm not sure this is such a smart move. I think he would have done better to be
a little more patient and allow himself to mature.
@ long time coug"I can see the headline now "Heaps
transfers to the Utes Chase's' Hansen to the Cougs". And anyone who thinks
he would transfer to Wasington where he'd be third string behind Price and
Montana doesn't know much".Don't count your chickens before
they hatch. Coach Whit is a no non-sense coach and he will NOT put up with the
drama and selfishness of Jake Heaps even if they are desperate for a QB. Utah is
looking for a team player and a leader at the QB position and Jake has neither
attributes. As far as Chase Hansen, he chose the Pac-12 over lowly Independence
and he gets to showcase his talent among the elites in this conference.
BYU is now a spread option and the UTES are a pro style offense. Wow how the
world turns. What quality opponent has Nelson really faced. The problem is Doman
not running the ball more and slowly developing a true sophomore qb in his new
offense. When it faces a real defense ala TCU, Texas, and OL MIss. Heaps was
your future. Now ride the Nelson a poor mans Tebow til the wheels fall
This is typical O'Tooles Law; Murphy was an optimist!What else
could go wrong for the Cougs?I feel sick today.
Guess who BYU has scheduled a home and home with in 2012 and 2013? Wazzu is
who! Although he may need to sit out a year, I can envision Heaps putting a
beating on the Cougs in Pullman in 2013.
Any school would welcome a arm like Heaps. Everybody wants Tebow but I rather
have Aaron Rodgers.
I totally blame the coaches for this one. Not one time has any coach stepped up
to the plate and taken the blame for the poor offensive production. Jake Heaps
was thrown under the bus this year by Bronco and Doman. Go back last year, and
as a true freshman, he performed in his last 8 games. He threw for over 3000
yards, averaged almost 40 pts per game, and went 6-2. Pretty impressive numbers
for a true freshman. Then Anae was fired.This year, Doman is brand new,
having never run an offense before. Offensive personnel are the same, with the
addition of Ross Apo. Toughest stretch of the season and not only Jake is
struggling, line cant block, receivers dropping passes, and running back cant
run. Who gets the blame? Jake Heaps.Heaps set BYU freshman passing records
for yards, touchdowns and wins while starting the final 10 games as a true
freshman in 2010. The highlight of his season came in the 2010 New Mexico Bowl
where he passed for 264 yards and four touchdowns to earn offensive MVP honors
in a 52-24 victory. Maybe Robert Anae shouldnt have been fired?
@ PAC 10.2 Loves YouWho said anything about transferring to
Washington?Odds say that he will end up under the tutelage of the
old pirate QB guru Mike Leach at Washington State-which ironically plays BYU in
2012 and 2013.
Good luck Jake, wherever you end up going. I am sorry it didn't work out for you
at BYU. If only you could have kept that starting QB gig. We wish you well in
obtaining another one.But Nelson was hungry and was ready when his
number got called. May you be like Riley. Get hungry. Fight. Become more
accurate and more mobile and you will go far.BYU Coaches owed it to
the school and to the fans to play the QB who would step up and get it done.
They gave Heaps every chance in the world to be that guy. No other Freshman
started so many games. But in the end, it hurt Heaps to play so young. He became
cocky and didn't work as hard as he needed to, it seemed. Again, we wish you
well. Learn from this and become better. Now lets get Lark some game experience.
Best of luck to Jake. I think he will flourish in a system that has a quality,
dedicated quarterbacks coach. With two years of eligibility remaining, I'm sure
he can make a great impact somewhere. As for naysayers who critizie
Riley Nelson; sure, he's not the prototypical pocket-passer. But the kid has
improved greatly since last year and he has the heart of an entire team. Not a
bad combination!As for the future, I don't think it looks very
bright for BYU football. Aside from the supposed "invites" to other
confrences, I get the sense that the school is content to slip to the
middle-of-the-pack in the ranks of the 'also-rans' instead of being willing to
compete with the big boys. But until the school gives up competitive athletics
(like at BYU-I.. actually not a bad idea), I'll be wearing my coug-blue!
Remember that time at Iggy's when Jake Heaps announced that he would win a
Heisman Trophy and a National Championship at BYU? Yeah....
I hear rumors the Jake is going to California. They were his second
option in the recruiting trail behind BYU. Jeff Tefford will take Jake and make
him into the NFL caliber quarterback that he is. To bad for BYU. And
for everyone that is banking on Hill or Mangum living up to their commitments,
you better think twice. If they both see how Jake Heaps was handled as a five
start quarterback out of high school, what would make you think that they would
want to get treated the same as Jake Heaps. The BYU coaching staff blew it, and
won't even admit it. Pathetic. Both kids would be better off going somewhere
else. BYU is not the quarterback factory of old, that they used to be. The
passion for the passing game is no longer there.
Remember ute fans if it wasn't for your 2 snow aided wins you wouldn't even be
in a bowl game this year.
"Heart" and "Toughness" are talents that many talented
people don't possess.
Many comments about a mission would have prepared Heaps or other players to be
better prepared... We are talking about football... And BYU history shows that
the most successful college and NFL quarterbacks did not go on missions. It's a
personal choice, so please do not be so judgmental. Many very good people did
not serve a mission.
Jake had the potential that was never realized. He was a boy playing with men.
He didn't quite get the leadership he thought he had. As hind sight is 20/20,
Jake should have red-shirted to give him another year to mature and gain
mentally and physically. It will be interesting to see where he lands and what
happens to determine what skills he realy has.
I don't know all the details of Jake's decision and make no disparaging comments
toward him or about BYU. All I know is that Jake Heaps has great potential and I
truly hope he will find his place with a quality team where he can showcase his
talents. I will be rooting for him all the way. The thing about
college athletics is that there are a ton of young athletes that for what ever
reason don't excel in one program. Timing has a lot to do with it, coaching has
a lot to do with it, fitting into the style of offense has a lot to do with it,
but fans and haters have have absolutely nothing to do with it.BYU
is in a very unique position and there is a lot of criticism. I'm personally
very happy that BYU does not make decisions based on what this fan thinks or on
what any fan or hater thinks for that matter. Good Luck to a great
young man, and great athlete who unfortunately is under a huge microscope. Go BYU! Go Jake Heaps!
"for HE and his wife" Good job, Bronco. Your English
skills are nearly as good as Jake's quarterbacking skills.
This is bad for BYU...Nelson will get us nowhere. You don't get a kid with his
talent very often, and with how he was treated, it won't happen again for a
while. This has a feel like when Mallett left Michigan (who
subsequently became terrible and went through the darkest years of their
program) and went to Arkansas, where he restored them to a top-10 program.Bronco will regret this, let's hope not with his job.
Jake.Smart move.The house of cards are falling!Band of Lil Brothers
@ Alpine CougReread my post! I never said anything about Jake Heaps
transferring to Washington. I quoted long time coug who mentioned Heaps should
transfer to Washington. My response was below his quote!Quite
frankly, I don't care where Jake Heaps transfers to as long as it's not Utah.
The issue of Jake Hypes transferring is in direct proportion to how BYU left the
Mountain West Conference. It's that "I'm too good for you attitude"
they both have in common.
well I'm glad that Heaps finally made the decision for Bronco on who will start
next year and beyond. I'm sure if Heaps was still going to stick around for the
2012 season we would still be playing the "quarterback merry go round"
of Bronco telling us that the Heaps is an NFL QB and Riley is a tough kid. He
would also tell us that spring practice and fall practice is a dead heat between
Heaps and Nelson for the starting job in the upcoming 2012 season. It's
obviously apparent to me that Bronco and his offensive staff cannot evaluate QB
talent and who should be the starting QB this year and into the future. Since
I'm not at practices evaluating talent I can't say who plays better...but
neither can the coaches and they are around these players all the time or maybe
not since football is #5 on the priority lost.So once again, thanks
Jake for making the decision for Bronco as we all know he was incapable of
evaluating talent and making a decision. As far as Bronco as the head coach-time
for a change. This mediocrity is killing the program.
How could you not love watching Riley play the game?! It's actually thrilling,
unbelievable, fun. Not just mechanical. He has earned his spot, and there's a
reason why fans and players and coaches love him and want more. I agree that he
can and will continue to improve and impress.Excited to see what
Lark can do as back-up. We've heard much about him but seen little.As for coaches? I think they gave Jake every chance. If there is anything to
regret, it was letting Jake share the starting position as a freshman, rather
than having him check his pride at the door like everyone else and learn while
waiting his turn. He clearly came with skills, but lacked maturity. I wish him
well wherever he goes.No one could have predicted when Heaps signed
on what an incredible time of transition this would be not only at BYU but
throughout college football. Coaches like Bronco and QB's like Riley are
exactly what's needed in such times. Hang in there, Cougars . . . the shifting
is not over.Last point: Are fans at BYU truly so much more fickle
than anyone else's fans? Sure, whiners show up in these boards, but LES is full
almost every week we play there regardless of the opponent, and almost
regardless of the time of year and time of day--this season has shown that!
We're not more fickle; but maybe more is expected from us. And so let's do it!
RISE UP, COUGARS!
Now we have a football program with no quarterback. I guess we have written
off next year as well. You have to be Bronco's buddy to make it at
BYU...talent means nothing.
Over the past two years, Jake and Riley have faced two huge obstacles: Coach
Mendenhall and Coach Doman. From the quarterback rotation to the ill-advised
offensive schemes, Jake failed to overcome the adversity created by his
coaches.On the other hand, Riley continues to get better every week.
Last week, he looked much more comfortable in the pocket. Riley has a strong
arm, but his height forces him to lob the ball when he can't settle into a
passing lane. At Hawaii, he did a better job finding passing lanes and getting
the ball downfield with a little zip.Good luck at your next school,
Jake. I hope you end up in a scheme that better fits your talents.
Hold on.... what am I missing. I have absolutely nothing against Heaps, but
looking at his last game, how could you in good conscience keep the kid in. His
performance was poor at best. Why, I am not sure, but his replacement didn't
seem to have the same issues with the program, or the coaching that he did.It could have been a case of the wrong kid in the wrong system. But
lets get real, it has been a long time since BYU produced an NFL caliber
quarterback. If BYU is still a quarterback factory, it must have outsourced
its production somewhere else, because it has been a while. Beck is the only one
Norm Chow would love to have Jake Heaps' talents and abilities. He is a true NFL
caliber quarterback, that has been ruind by a coaching staff that did not know
how to coach him or handle him. Get him to a team that has the right coach, and
you will see just how goo Jake Heaps is. As for Chase Hansen, Utah will not even
see him until 2014, due to leaving on a mission straight out of high school.
Following a year to work with Norm Chow, Jake could potentially come in and lead
the Utes to a BCS championship. Just look at the talent that Norm Chow developed
while at USC. The Utes would be a great fit for Jake Heaps, and being a BYU fan,
I would love to see him get bitter sweet revenge on the Cougars. Good luck Jake!
Prep FanaticRe-watch the Utah State game tonight and comment again
tomorrow. Jake had good protection from the offensive line and open receivers.
He could not complete passes. It was not a case of dropped passes, he was
clearly over throwing receivers. Coaches had him in a position where he could
succeed, and he failed to do so. Against Texas he was able to progress down the
field, but was impotent in the red zone.I expect he will excel with
a year off and a fresh start. However, BYU is clearly a better team with Nelson
as quarterback. The coaches made the correct decision.
I wish Doman were transferingn instead.
Just like whenever there was any kind of a pass rush, as soon as there is any
pressure and things aren't going just perfect he ducks his head and bails out.
Not a great precendent for adjusting to life, but playing qb takes a lot more
than being able to throw the ball well.
And how many #1 recruits from high school don't make a transition to be a
successful star in college? I would say just about as many Heisman trophy
winners who don't make it in the NFL.Happens all the time.BYU will be fine. Not so sure about Jake Heaps. Just because he was good in
high school does not mean he will make it in college. Way too many variables.
In my opinion for him, he lacks leadership skills. However given this year and
next year read shirting he may have been able to learn those skills. I think he is going to have a hard time making it at another major university.
Would have liked to see him stick around and maybe redshirt next year, and work
on the things that made him the back-up. Hope Riley stays healthy next year.
Just a thought for all those blaming the coaches, what is the player's
responsibility to develop themselves? I wonder how much time Jake has spent
learning to read offenses, learning to put some touch on his throws, etc. Maybe
he has, just a thought.
Been a cougar fan for 30 years. Seen this happen before, but I'm sick of the
pathetic Y fans who never have played the game, speak like they were experienced
D1 coaches, whine constantly when their "team" consistantly wins 10
game, but isn't Utah.Heaps DOES have great potential, looks
phenomenal in practice, talks an NFL future, but doesn't bring his A credentials
to the game.I find it interesting that the last time BYU really had
this problem, the heir apparent patiently sat the sideline, learning, filling in
when needed and ended up with super bowl rings and MVPs and is in three HOM's.
His name was Steve Young. The other guy also waited his turn, even when his
talent was huge, and ended up winning a super bowl.This Heaps kid
suffers from what so many athletes do today. He has a higher opinion of himself
than his performance justifies and is unwilling to wait even a second for his
time in the sun.I wish him well, but this is a case of giving up
what is best for what he wants now. BTW, don't blame the receivers. They're
catching Nelson just fine and winning.
Those that think this will hurt recruiting need to think it out a bit. They think if they come in they will get treated like Heaps? Well yeah. Heaps
was treated more than fairly and given every opportunity to step up and shine,
and when he didn't, he was still given more chances. They see that a backup who
worked his tail off and gave it his all when given the opportunity was rewarded
with the starting job. Recruits will see that they too can have the opportunity
but they need to work as hard and be effective. I think Heaps thought that he
was going to be a 3 year starter and then go to the NFL. He was shocked when he
was replaced for ineffective play and then asked to redshirt in order to mature
and get better. He will still have to go through the same thing at his next
stop. Hopefully he will realize that he will need to work hard, be coachable,
and earn it.
With the imminent dismissal of Andy Reid in Philadelphia, he would make a great
head coach for his old alma mater. If only...
I don't know what Bronco is looking at.I have it on very good
authority that Heaps just does not have the work ethic, especially in the weight
room. You can see it in his lack of toughness on the field, not to mention in
his physique, his throwing and running motions. He has loads of talent and
potential, but without that work ethic and toughness, he won't amount to much.
That is why I support Heaps' transferring to another school. At another school
he won't have coaches lying to him about how great he is. At another school, he
will have coaches who can toughen him up and make him realize his potential.This is good news for everybody.
Funny thing about hype Heaps. You start to believe it. Heaps would
be welcomed up here at WSU, but they want to win games too. So I suppose that no
matter where he goes, Heaps will have to learn how to better lead his receivers
and aim above their knees, but that should come with humility and hard work. He
had the world handed to him at BYU. Now he will have to work for what he gets.
Good luck Jake. You may still be a great one, but inspiring others
requires more than phone calls and tweets. May you find what it takes inside
you, and the ability to bring it out into the open. As for those who
say the coaches ruined him, oh I wish I could stop laughing. Heaps was the
golden boy of the coaching staff. That's why they gave him so many opportunities
as a Freshman/Sophomore. Personally, I never saw the talent there. Nelson
outplayed him in every game the two shared time in. He should have redshirted
next year and stayed at BYU, but I wish him well in the JC programs, or in his
one remaining year of eligibility elsewhere.
A sad day for both Jake Heaps and BYU. I wish both well
I remember many Y fan comments about Heaps = Heisman Trophy and National
Championship. Well may come at a different school. Heaps did a great job in
Goodbye Jake Heaps-of-overrated. Next time, be humble and don't declare
yourself an NFL great before playing a down of college ball. Jake didn't win
one game against a quality opponent.I think bashing Doman is the
wrong target. You can't say Jake performed worse this year with Doman as OC
because last year Heaps only won against bad teams. Nothing changed. Heaps
just doesn't have what it takes and him quiting BYU won't help his confidence.
Now he has to be the NFL QB he thinks he is where ever he lands. If that
doesn't happen, who would be to blame? The fact is he had every opportunity to
beat out Riley Nelson and couldn't do it. Apparently, he doesn't believe he can
beat him out next year either or else he wouldn't be leaving. I think he'll
regret leaving but I'm glad he is.
The coaching staff DID NOT cause Heaps to throw more interceptions than
touchdowns. Heaps had his opportunities. He did not take advantage of them.
If the team did not see him as a leader, who's fault was that. Even now, he has
the choice to red shirt and grow or to quit and transfer. What did he choose?
I think that given his decision, this is the best for both him and BYU.
For you many BYU-hating trolls calling BYU fans fickle, you do not have a
solitary clue about "fickle". Here in Oklahoma, Bob Stoops-the
undisputed king of college football lost three (imagine 3?) and they are howling
for his head. A man that has taken the Sooners to a national championship, 7 Big
XII championships and 6 BCS Bowls in a decade and they are calling for him to be
fired.Same thing in Texas where the legendary Mac Brown is under
fire for back to back mediocre seasons.These (and there are many
other examples nation-wide) are "fickle" fans who expect nothing but
NCs year after year.BYU fans are mild and humble compared to other
fanbases. Disappointed? Yes, but fairly realistic.Utah fans on the
other hand have a right to be fickle about their once mighty Running Utes, but
don't really care enough to complain. Besides that they get way too much
enjoyment watch the Cougars struggle for a season. Not to worry,
the Cougs will be back soon enough. Long before the Utes will!
Did Heaps have a promise to start every game, win or lose? Any intelligent
sports fan could see Nelson led the team better than Jake Heaps. Did Jake not
know he still had to make the team, produce on the field? Many
forget the Utah State game when they criticize the coaches; I think they had to
put Riley in, if they wanted to succeed...the new direction of a qb that can run
and throw is the right one in todays game...Ute fans have to
acknowledge in Hansen they have a qb who was great in high school because he
could both run and pass.Jake is young, and I don't think his
advisors care about which college furthers his career, they are all about Jake
Heaps...but football is a team game.
I feel badly for the kid, but his coaches gave him every opportunity to succeed.
I thought that he would have a spectacular season this year, but he lacked the
grit, tenacity and the fire to succeed. Jake, you should have
watched and learned from Riley this year, then come back next year and TAKEN QB
#1 back. No press conference, no platitudes. You should have worked like a
maniac to earn your starting role back. You should have worked to earn the
respect and trust of your teammates, coaches and fans. You should have made it
impossible for them to consider anyone else as the starter.That's
what a true competitor does, not slink away quietly into the night.See ya, buddy. Woulda, coulda, shoulda.
Ouch!! This one has got to hurt the football program all around. It's not too
often the high school player of the year transfers within two years of the start
of his career. This doesn't bode well for the coaching staff or the so called
"Quarterback U" in general.I have no doubt he will go on
to succeed under a different and more seasoned coaching staff.
Nice Job BYU (Caoching staff). I offically delcare my seperation from BYU
football and 95% of the fans who honestly want to think this is no big deal.
Heaps will make Y fans and BYU look bad and I will laugh the whole time. Enjoy
Riley! and your below average seasons from here on out.Go Tulsa and
who ever else plays BYU until this coaching staff is changed!What a
Heaps anywhere except the Utes pleasee. But if you want to put a dagger in and
turn it, I understand the coach's and 95% of these fans deserve it.
BYU gave Heaps more chances than he deserved. BYU gave more opportunities to
Heaps than any quarterback in their history. BYU should have inserted Nelson
earlier in the year. BYU's offense sputtered more often than not with Heaps.
Many fans need to get over what Heaps did in high school and his strong arm. Is
BYU really supposed to keep a QB as a starter just based on potential? What
good is a strong arm if he is not accurate? Nelson has been much more productive
and the team has been more energized with him. Go BYU!
Eastern Washington here I comeSigned:Jake HeapsP.S. That way he can play next year immediately by going to the lower
subdivision and be closer to home.
My neck is sore from keeping up with the Y haters' comments bouncing from one
extreme to the next.Based on yoUr comments I can't figure out if:
1) Jake Heaps was truly the overhyped, immature, lazy, cocky, No. 1
recruit who was destined to fail;2) Jake Heaps was deceived by
Bronco, Brandon, Riley, Cosmo, the cheerleaders, 65K fans in the stands and
legions of basement bloggers.3) Jake actually is the greatest thing
since sliced bread and will prove all doubters and BYU faithful wrong as he
resurrects some failing program in the PAC and leads them to smelling roses and
a date with the inevitable SEC opponent in the January something, 2013 BCS
championship game.I suppose Jake can be all these things (all logic
and reason aside)...just as long as BYU looks bad?Here's how this
ridiculousness is actually evidenced: The topic of Bill Reilly's show today is
"How did the "Jake Heaps' problem happen, and who is to blame?
"All is dandy on the hill....no QB issues there, right? It's
hate the Y day!...Celebrate!
good recruit does not always equal good player... big difference!
Leadership needed at BYU.Start with the coach.Heaps had some
I am sad to hear of Jake's decision to leave, but it makes me excited for James
Lark. He is now going to get some valuable playing time. He may well be a
better QB than Heaps. At least he should soon get the chance to prove it.Good luck Jake. But won't you lose a year of eligibility if you
transfer to a major program? That will only give you one year to prove yourself.
Are you sure that will be enough? Is it too late to take it all back and stay
Jake has the potential...I hope it happens for him. I'm sad that it won't be for
BYU, I was hoping that he would red-shirt and be patient, but BEST to him and
SoupsandwhichWell said. I totally agree. he was a great recruit i think.
But he was not a good player for BYU. I think it was a good move.
Does this mean I'm not going to get articles chock full of quotes from Heaps?
I'm gonna really miss that.
I wish Jake Heaps all the best in transferring. He's learn a lot. He'll learn
more. Same for Bronco. As fans we know it all so there's no help for us. But
best of luck to Jake Heaps. I hope he makes it to a team that has QBs he
believes he can beat out and make it to a great season or two.
I'm just glad it is done. All I care about is winning and Heaps simply didn't
get the wins. Yea I wish he'd turned into the all everything stud he was
purported to be, but he didn't. Now we move on. Of course BYU has the next great
high school recruit in Tanner Mangum coming after his mission and we'll just
have to see how that works out. One thing is for sure BYU doesn't have a problem
getting top qb recruits but at least so far when they land the #1 guy, Olsen and
Heaps, neither lived up to the billing. Hopefully Mangum will be the one that
will.In the meantime just win games and I'll be happy.
I have been reading all of the comments from all of the "experts" out
there. Here is reality, the same coach that put 2 QB,s in the NFL is still at
BYU. The same offense that has been run for 35 years with a few tweeks ia still
there.It has been and will be successful. Take a look at film, Riley gets the
play off with 10 to 15 seconds on the play clock and Heaps with 1 second to
go.There is energy and drive with Riley. Heaps is slow to react, he does not
like to get hit, and he makes poor decisions. Jake went to a QB camp every other
week for 6 years.It made him a D1 QB prospect, but not a football player. Until
Heaps can play with heart and grit it does not matter where he goes he will
struggle. I wish Heaps well, he will need more than luck to succeed.
How about Bronco Mendenhall leaving or transferring from BYU? Now that's a
headline I would like to see. Good luck Jake!
The only good news is we don't don't have to listen to all the Nelson relatives
and lovers bash Heaps all year long anymore! Thanks guys
Jake was not convinced to feel a future part of "The Band of
Well I guess the plan to redshirt Heaps next year and then play him the final
two years during the final three years of his coaching contract backfired.
Thanks coach for thinking about yourself and ruining it for the program. That
is a great life lesson to share with everyone.
Heaps just wasn't a good fit at Byu, that's that facts.And utes
fans, where is that sugar bowl Mvp playing nowadays??
Bottom Line.....Heaps had a great shot to prove himself. He missed wide open
receiver after wide open receiver. It's not the coaches fault. He was overrated.
Heaps, what a disappointment. Some of the blame may belong to Doman and
Mendenhall, new coach, new scheme, etc. But from what I saw, Heaps had neither
the heart not the humility to learn from his mistakes. You can get away with
staring down your receiver in high school; not in college and definitely not in
the NFL. He never stopped doing that this season. Inexplicable. Nelson may not
have the "great arm" Heaps supposedly has, but Heaps overthrew his
receivers with the long ball every time he had the chance. Nor did Heaps
demonstrate any creativity in the pocket when the play collapsed. Nelson,
however, is the opposite and wins games. It may be ugly to some, but I'll take
that over Heaps' perfomances this year any day. I hope Heaps finds success
elsewhere, but if he blames this on BYU, coaches, or anything other than
himself, he will be a failure anywhere he goes.
For one reason or another, Jake Heaps did not develop at BYU. I think the
problem lies with the coaching. In my view, Bronco has mismanaged this from the
start. He has been fiddling around with two quarterbacks for the most part of
two seasons. I don't blame Bronco for playing Neilson, but I don't blame Heaps
for leaving. Both Doman and Bronco are from a different playing style than Heaps
and its clear they didn't connect. Second number one recruit to be a dud at BYU,
will this hurt recruiting? Is the quarterback factory closed?
The coaching leadership caused this. Jake will do just fine when he finds a good
coaching group and not a bunch of motivational speakers who do not understand
talent. I thinkk this will be broncos curtain call.
BYU fans have to pull for Jake Heaps to fail. If he goes on to live up to the
hype it will make BYU look really, really, bad! Riley Nelson must
come out next season and play very well. If he doesn't Bronco should be fired.
There is going to be a lot of pressure on this coach and QB, especially when
they head to Salt Lake City! It should be a lot of fun...As a mild
BYU hater and good person, I wish Jake Heaps the best in his future endeavors.
Thank you Vai Sikahema, Brad Rock, David Loche, Gordon Monson for stirring the
pot and making life at BYU so pleasant for a 19 year old kid trying to deal with
a tough situation.
Memo to all the "Know it Alls".Making NFL throws while in
practice, wearing a green jersey, does not equate to...1-Leadership2-Toughness3-HeartRiley has it, Jake as of
now, does not.Hurts BYU's recruiting? LOL (see Tanner
Mangum)BYU has had 10 All-Americans at the QB position. Jake is not
the first, nor will he be the last, to transfer.Detmer will be
the 5th BYU QB inducted into the College Hall of Fame. And none of them,
were #1 QB's-5 Star recruits, coming out of High School.When Jake
landed in Provo, his Parents and entire family moved to Provo with him.
When the going got tough, well, Jake decided moving on to greener pastures
was the answer.When Steve Young came to BYU, his family stayed in
Conn. When Steve wanted to come home, his Father, "Grit", said,
"You will stay put, work harder and quit your whining".Will Jake be the next Steve Young or the next Todd Marinovich?We
wish you well Jake, but running is not always the answer.
I'm not sure any of you who have your man crushes on Heaps even watched him
play. He telegraphed passes, he avoided contact at all costs, he has no touch
when touch is required, he consistently overthrew open receivers down field, he
got no better...same problems week after week. Sure, he might be a nice kid who
is disappointed in how things turned out...but blaming the coaches is a real
stretch. They're not perfect, but they're also not the reason Jake failed at
BYU. Perhaps he can win throwing contests for speed and accuracy, but we need a
QB who can win football games.
Too bad it didn't work out for Jake. He's a great young man, but his sense of
entitlement was his own worst enemy.Jake had exceptional talent, but
he lacked the competitive fire of BYU greats like McMahon, Young, and Detmer.
The best game of Jake's career wasn't even an average game for McMahon.Bronco and Doman made absolutely the right decision benching Jake in favor of
Riley. Instead of fighting to regain his starting job, Jake rolled over and quit
on the team.Hopefully, Jake will be able to get back on track at his
new school.Good luck Jake!
What about Apo, do we get to keep him?
I think Heaps has a tremendous upside and that the BYU coaching staff failed
him. Riley is a hard working tough guy, but Heaps is a potential NFL player.
When you are trying to compete when recruiting, as well as on the field, great
players want to play with great players. Heaps is the future. I think the
coaches got caught up in Riley's size and his being such a tough guy, and let
the "Gun" get away. Other great Quarterback recruits are going to look
at this and not be very impressed with the on the job training of BYU's coaching
staff at the expense of Heaps. I am a BYU life time fan and graduate, and
watching this drama unfold in such an unprofessional way really bothers me. A
text-book way of not doing things when you have a No.1 national recruit.
@JayDeeIt's funny you choose to only call out Utah fans for their
comments on the situation.You should go back and actually read the
board before commenting.The comments from Cougar fans are all over
the place.Some with the typical BYU spin. Nothing bad every happens
at BYU, this is a good thing, no big deal, basically unicorns and rainbows.Some worried, and rightfully so, what this means for the future. Some worried this, along with everything else that has happened, is just
another dagger to the program.If you'll remove the blue bubble,
you'll see much of your own fanbase is reacting the way they should, taking this
seriously and not just blowing it off. But for you to look at the
situation, and the comments from your own fanbase, before just blaming Utah
fans, you'd have to not be a BYU fan. Not in your DNA.
@LP supporterYour logical breakdown of Jake Heaps pre-BYU days could
have really come in handy reeling in the Heisman/National Championship talk from
Cougar fans on this board the day of the Iggy's press conference!But
I'd imagine you were just as giddy as everyone else. Logic only
comes into play at BYU when things go terribly wrong.
The Utah trolls and pseudo BYU fans bagging on Bronco and Doman are, as usual,
clueless. Jake was given every opportunity to succeed at BYU, but he wasn't
willing to put in the time or effort. Riley has more competitiveness and hunger
in his little finger than Jake has in his entire body.
Best wishes and good luck to Heaps and his family.
I wish him luck, personally he had a great oportunity if he red shirted next
year, and learned other offenses through that year, then came back and started
for two years. It's his loss and oportunity to improve. Maybe he'll grow up and
learn some leadership skills rather than wimp out when the going got tough? That
is my opinion, but hey, I'm a BYU fan not a Jake Heaps fan or a Nelson Fan, just
a "WIN" fan, and they didn't win with a kid who was so wrapped up in
himself he couldn't devote himself to the program that could and would have
devoted itself to him when HE MATURED! Good luck elsewhere Jake, I'm sure we
won't hear your name again in NCAA Division I of the BCS level, to bad, so sad.
I truly wish him luck, but he is making a HUGE MISTAKE!
I think that Jake could have developed into a great passer at BYU. He needed
patience and a bit more humility to stay and develop in the system. I don't
really think he is just going to walk into any system and take over the reigns
and be the greatest QB of all time. There are very few purely drop back passers
that can take over a system as freshman and become dominant. It is very hard to
learn a system like BYU. It doesn't help when you stare at your primary
receiver and you don't see alternative receivers very well. With experience and
the patience that can come with that experience, he could have developed into a
great quarterback. I always felt that calling that news conference as a high
school student was a real big red flag. I could tell that if he struggled and
didn't develop as fast as he wanted too (read this as he didn't win the Heisman
as a freshman or sophomore) he might struggle with the BYU system that usually
requires time to break into. He talks the humility part, but his actions speak
bballjunkie"I offically delcare my seperation from BYU
football..."Nice try Utah troll; and good riddance; now, the
only thing that would make your separation from BYU football even better is if
you'd promise never to soil another BYU article again with your tripe.
AlpineCougar: Your comment was funny - I LOL. I wished I had thought of that!
You are so right. It has happened in the past and will happen again. Wait
until BYU does well against the BCS teams, hopefully going undefeated next year
or in 2013, and you will see this happen more often.
I think it would be great if Heaps went to Utah. They can't recruit a
quarterback on their own so they have him. BYU has produced half their coaches
including two of the most important (HC and OC), so we might as well help them
out with their players too. Let us know what your needs are, we'll start
This will all come crashing down when happy feet Nelson gets hurt again next
game or season. No fear though, I'm sure his backup has plenty of helmet
stickers. Interesting now how Heap's personal decision to go or not go on a
mission is being called into question. Not sure why byu fan thinks that is ok
to criticize, it is between him and the Lord.
No big surprise. While Jake is a great guy and good QB, he just didn't have the
energy and grit to be successful at BYU. Hopefully the grass is greener on the
other side and he will reach his potential elsewhere. I remember vividly
thinking as I watched Jake's HS team get beat by Joe Montana's son's team on
ESPNU as a senior, that Jake did not have the tenacity and drive to really push
a team to victory in the face of adversity and thought "is he really the
top QB coming out?". As long as his team was beating up on local Wash. HS
teams by 4 or 5 TDs, he looked superb. The loss against the So.Cal. HS team was
similar to many of the losses at the Y. Not everyone is a Jim McM., but all
truly successful QBs have a big part of Jim's "put it on my shoulders"
Wow. I'm really surprised at Heaps' decision. He has really shown a lack of
maturity in dealing with adversity at BYU. Instead of learning from the
situation and fighting to win his starting job back, he'll probably end up
backing up another QB for the rest of his career at a good program, or he'll
start at a mediocre school. BYU really dropped the ball in
developing his talent. He wasn't the #1 QB coming out of high school for
It's time for bronco to transfer and take rilee with him.
Frankly it doesn't make sense to transfer, he has to sit out a year somewhere
else, he could do that here. Now he has to go somewhere and fight for the
starting quarterback spot unless he goes somewhere in the wac or sun belt. He
would pretty much guaranteed the quarterback job here after Nelson leaves and
probably before since Nelson won't go a full season without injuries. It leads
me to believe he leaving to save face, he lost his job because he didn't play
with any heart and he flat out was bad this year. He has to know that if he
plays the way he did the start of this year with a team from the big 12, sec,
big 10, or even the pac12, he will be on the bench on any team out there, to say
the coaches didn't give him a shot it bull, he had plenty of opportunities! That
says alot about a guy who gets guys to come with him here then leaves them when
the going gets tough. If thats his attitude good luck somewhere else.
Surprised, yes. Shocked, not at all. This is a lesson for every
college football fan. Don't count your chickens before they hatch.
I'm bummed out. I was hoping he would stick it out and then have a great jr and
@jakawhateverYou just proved a great point about the power of good
coaching. Lightly recruited,not a ton of talent,leads team to 12-0 and biggest
victory in Utah History. Contrast that with Probably most highly touted recruit
ever to sign with any local school,tons of talent,benched in game 3 or 4 of
soph.yr.,biggest victory vs Utep. You tell me who got the most out of their
player in this scenario?@JayDeeJust so you know in my
world its Hate Byu day 365 days a year, 24/7.
Good luck to you Jake. We are all rooting for you to succeed. You have so much
potential. May you find a way to add success to that potential. Don't be afraid
to get dirty. Don't be afraid to get hit. Don't be afraid to work your tail off.
Just don't be afraid.Now, you Jake lovers and fakers who don't
really care about BYU or its winning football tradition, please turn in your
football tickets. There are plenty of people out there who want BYU to win and
who applaud the touches they gave Jake, but cheer the substitution that made
football at BYU fun again. Riley Nelson is the Jimmer of the football team. It
was supposed to be Jake, but it is Riley. He is just fun to watch. Go Cougars, and Go Jake. Just go.
So many of you have no clue what really has gone on behind the scenes. If you
did, you would realize that there were many mistakes made in this process,
beginning with BYU buying in to the hype that surrounding this young man. It is
not his fault that no one knew he did not have the academic, athletic nor
intestinal fortitude for this position. A throwing motion does not a football
player make, nor, as Tim Tebow is proving, break.This young man has
struggled with many aspects of the "BYU Experience", so, I am relieved
that this is a chapter which is now in the past.Congratulations to James
Lark, now moving into a position he deserves, in every imaginable way. With the
close friendship he and Riley Nelson have developed the QB spot at BYU is on
firm lock down and in mature and solid hands.
I wish Jake and his family the best.That being said, it is apparent
by this move that unfortunately he is not a leader. He could have had 3 more
years at BYU to learn the system and become great QB. Good leaders don't quit
when faced with adversity, but rather wage through the difficulties which makes
them stronger and better leaders in the long run. Also whomever
thinks Jake Heaps is a better QB than Riley Nelson did not watch the two QB's in
action this year. Riley Nelson didn't always make the best throws, but he made
plays! Who cares if Heaps has a phenomenal arm if he can't stand in the pocket,
gets nervous and make bad throws and decisions time and time again. The best comparisons we can make, unfortunately, are the games against Utah
State and Idaho State (where Nelson dominated and Jake came in a threw the ONLY
interception for the cougars on his first drive)
RivertronYes you are correct, the coach's unfairly allowed Heaps to
use his prima-dona attitude far to long. Yes Jake football is a team
sport. I am sorry that you have been unable to wrap your brain around the "
Team concept " I hope the program you find understands that the sun rises
and set's around you. I hope your new team mates understand that
they are mere stepping stones on the path of your illustrious NFL carrier.
I just read that bballjunkie is no longer a BYU fan?It is Christmas!
First Heaps leaves, then good 'ole bball!
Jake Heaps proves conceit and arrogance does not equal success. Sad that Jake
Heaps did not have the guts to stay with the program until after the bowl
game.New slogan: "When the going gets tough, the losers just
Prep Fanatic - the report i heard a few days ago is that Chase Hansen is
postponing leaving immediately on his mission in order to try to win the
starting position at the U. Did I hear that report wrong?
Online quote about Chase Hansen - "The past Sunday Hansen and his family
met with Utah assistant coaches Norm Chow and Jay Hill, and everyone agreed that
it was in the best interests of all parties for Hansen to compete for the
starting job next fall instead of going on his LDS mission first."
of course he is transfering. what else do you expect from someone who is afraid
of being tackled, doesn't run down his interceptions, talks the talk, but can't
walk the walk. he was too soft mentally and physically. i would love
the utes to get him since they are so full of advice and wisdom.
afro14Perhaps the data in all these over emphasized rating systems
that lay overreaching labels of success around these immature high school grads
is simply hype plain and simple.Good luck Jake I hope you grow up
and learn that it is about hard work and not about press conferences and mugging
for the camera.
I listened to the Gordon Monson show on the radio today. One ogf his comments
was that he believed the BYU coaches mishandled Jake Heaps. I believe that is
true, but not the way Gordon meant.I think Mendenhall and Anae
bought into the hype in the way Virginia biught into Ralph Sampson many years
ago. Both players were stellar to the levels they rose to, but when the
competition required more effort and heart than PR and hype neither player
reached expected levels of achievement.Before you skewer Bronco
Mendenhall and his coaches, perhaps you ought to read Steve Young's accounts of
his struggles, both at BYU and San Francisco behind Mac Mahon and Montana, and
you'll see that true greatness is not handed down from others but dug up from
within. I have no doubt that Heaps might have the ability to be an NFL
quarterback as alleged here, but first you have to learn the intangibles in
college. Quitting is not one of them.When the coaches woke up and
saw their mistakes, they acted appropriately. Monson was right, but it is Heaps
who has not learned from the mistake.
The jump from high school to college is obviously huge. Hopefully Jake can
succeed somewhere else, but he lost the starting job any way you try to cut it.
To all of you BYU "fair weather" fans - BYU did not fail Jake Heaps,
Jake failed BYU and its coaches. He was given way more than ample opportunity
to step up, but failed to do so, when he had stiff competition. That is a fact.
Let's stop putting hate on the BYU coaches and the program. It is a great
program, with great coaches. If you people don't like what BYU, the AD, and the
coaches are doing, than why don't you go cheer for the U of U. We don't need
your negative comments here. You people are the exact reason why Ute fans hate
BYU fans. I for one am tired of your negativity. So please think before you
blog - think about what the effect of what you are writing will be on others who
read these boards. Be true blue fans and support your university. Thank you!
Huge BYU fan here- I think this is absolutely the best move Jake Heaps could
make. Bronco gets downright romantic when he talks about Riley Nelson. The
writing has been on the wall for two years. I wish Jake the best of
luck wherever he winds up and I am thankful for his efforts at BYU and for
handling his demotion like a pro instead of whining or complaining. I believe
that with some time to develop in the right system, Jake has all the tools to be
an NFL quarterback. A redshirt year will be a good thing for him.
Jake was probably the best freshman quarterback BYU has had. Its amazing all
the negative comments about Heaps still and hoping he does poorly in the future.
Whatever the reason for his decision, show some class and wish him well. I'm
hoping many of those with negative comments did not actually attend Brigham
Young University. Or alas the double standard is alive and well.
I like Nelson a lot but it is a sad day for me because Jake would have been a
better choice for next year and beyond. Silver lining is that redshirting Jake
at BYU would have jeapordized BYU's chances with Hill and Mangum. Now Taysom
will enroll in January, play spring ball and not redshirt but backup Riley and
play as a true freshman if Riley gets injured or later in the year when Taysom
is ready. Elite qbs like Hill and Mangum would not go to a BYU and have only
two years at the helm. A mission and spring ball is enough for a 4.0
student like Taysom and a redshirt would not be cost efficient for a 22 year
old. Same thing for Mangum. Hill would be BYU's best punter and fastest and
most athletic player at every position but offensive and defensive line. Do a
youtube search on him? Good luck to you Jake. I will root for you in
every game you play especially to beat my Cougs.
Is it possible that Jake Heaps just another Todd Marinovich? Heaps played lousy
against some truly lousy competition. (Ole Miss comes to mind.) How good is he
really? I would be surprised if he does well anywhere. There are two
components to being a great QB. There are the stats (which Heaps had out of
high school) and then there is heart, the 'it' factor (which he clearly doesn't
Heard from an inside source today that Jake is trying to get on at Cal. If the
source is correct, it will be interesting to see if Cal takes him. By the way, Heaps will go down as the best freshman QB to ever play at
Let's not blame Bronco for Heaps failure. Heaps is the one who called the media
and hired a marketing firm, heaps is the one who proclaimed himself as the next
QB at BYU, Heaps is the one who threw a pick earlier in the year and didn't even
try to make the tackle, Heaps was the guy who hated to get his hands dirty
Archi - There are many different ways to spin this but most BYU fans wish Heaps
well, as do I. Most of the other comments are all to familiar BYU haters, Utah
fans that pose and just try to make ridiculous comments to stir the pot. If you
follow dnews you will see it time and time again. Good luck to you Jake, I wish
you all could have made it work to redshirt and stay at BYU I think that is by
far your best chance for success.
When is the press conference with his P.R' people to announce where he is
@ williaryThanks for caring so much about BYU football, reading my
little post, and then commenting on it.Perhaps I can clarify the
intent. Please reread the post. I never called out any Utah fans, I reference
"Y haters." (Your own inference there speaks volumes.)The
point of the post was simply that those who MUST place blame ... and cast BYU,
i.e. the football program, the church, coaches, whomever, in the worst possible
light ... are using directly contradictory arguments. How can Jake be an
overhyped, talentless, doomed failure in one sentence, and in the next, be a
marvelous #1 recruit and NFL prospect. You either want to claim BYU is stupid
for recruiting him in the first place or BYU failed, and is stupid, because he's
transferring now. I'm just pointing out the fallacy of having your
hatred both ways. It doesn't matter whether that comes from a Y hater, a U fan,
or disgruntled fans in the blue bubble. My last comment simply
touched on the irony of ripping on BYU quarterbacks instead of ignoring the
elephant in the room that is the sorry state of the quarterback position at the
U of U.
Well isn't this a kick in the pants.
I am so tired of reading about how Heaps was almost an NFL-anointed player
coming out of high school and his great potential. Gee, why didn't he just
forego the college experience completely and try for the NFL draft out of high
school. In the two seasons he played for the Cougars, I never saw any fire in
him. And now he demonstrates that he can't deal with adversity. I
wish him well...but truly believe he would have reached his greatest potential
by staying in the BYU program, redshirting, learning to overcome adversity,
maturing, and being able to have two remaining stellar seasons. But maybe that
would have required he become a team player. Good luck Jake...wherever you end
"If you want to have a good laugh, watch Jake Heaps play quarterback in the
2011 Utah-BYU game. haha"@ Bleed CrimsonJust as
funny as utah playing at home to 3-10 colorado team and losing. HA HA!
Good for you, time to live a Normal Life. BYU is going to the who
cares bowl, so who cares. 2nd String QB's are usually not high draft
picks. You need to start evan in a small pond.
BYU failed him end, end of story. Poor coaching job... This reflects about as
well as byu's choice for independence. I am not sure what is going on at byu but
something needs to change.
Let me get this straight. Heaps is a #1 recruited QB out of high school in the
nation. He has worked for and dreamed of playing BYU football his whole life.
He competes as well as any freshman and sophomore QB would in the country. And
this is not a failure of the program how? It is out right delusional to not
place at least some blame elsewhere other than Heaps.
Heaps is going to be fine. He should transfer to Washington State where he
could put his arm to good use.
Where does he go? If he cant cut it at BYU, and his problem is wanting to start?
Maybe a lower ranked PAC team. No other FBS in-state team wants him as a
starter. My guess is he goes to the MWC. San Diego State or maybe Boise, I
believe Moore is gone after this year.
Magnum. Time to rethink your situation. Plenty of teams in good conferences
would love to see your talents not go to waste.
He competed as well as any freshman and sophomore QB in the country..really
Victor? He was consistently rated one of the worst QB's in the country
statistically all last year.
Rumors.Ohio State needs a QB. And now Urban Meyer is there.Washington State has Mike Leach and is in his home state.Washington has Price and Montana. Don't see that happening.Cal. I
think Maynard has another year. Yet, rumors abound on here about inside
sources.Utah. Not going to happen. Too many painful memories for
him.I could see him pulling a Todd Mortensen and playing in the FCS.
There are worse scenarios out there.Only he knows. Good
luck, Jake. Sorry those fans drove you out of Provo. Maybe you can land on a
team that plays your old school (ala Riley Nelson) and exact revenge.Interesting story.
@ BluCoug"Just as funny as utah playing at home to 3-10
colorado team and losing. HA HA!"Not as funny as byu fans
trying so hard to brush off their 54-10 beat down in Happy Valley by bringing up
our loss to a conference opponent. Still bitter about the loss? HA HA! Enjoy
your helicopter bowl!
That's too bad I had hoped to see Jake really excel at BYU. I would have been
much happier to have read that Bronco Mendenhall were transferring. The mental
errors, the lack of intensity, the loss of focus this team showed all too often
are from bad coaching.
So long Jake, good luck to you...With that said unless he toughens up mentally
he will never have a successful college career. He has the physical abilities
but mentally he just doesn't get it. Riley may not have the best arm but he
makes up for it with his toughness, leadership skills, work ethic and
determination to be successful, thats why his teammates are behind him and
respect him. Jake talked alot and rarely backed it up with his play on the
field. Time to stop all the talk and prove yourself Jake if you really want to
be an NFL QB. He had every opportunity to take hold of the starting position
firmly this season and didnt do it against some pretty average to bad defenses
in Central Florida and Utah State. I think BYU was pretty fair with him, he was
given equal opportunity to earn and keep the starting job and didnt take
advantage of the opportunities, he has got himself to blame for that. I guess we
will see if he has at all humbled himself and learned any lessons from this.
Jenny83 you are misinformed as he had 15 touchdowns and 9 interceptions and a
154 rating in november and 171 in the bowl game. He was pretty good last year
after he got the reps and the start after Riley went down. Victor was right he
had the best statistics ever for a BYU freshman. Because he outperformed Riley
last year the coaches stayed with him as long as they did this year. He played
pretty darn good missing a couple long balls in his last two games. He has alot
of upside whereever he goes and has the quickest release and strongest arm I
have seen since Elway. Learn from this experience and get better Jake we will
be rooting for you.
Jake Heaps is 0-2 vs. the mighty Utes.If you can't beat them join
'em!It'll be nice to see Heaps add to the depth at QB at Utah where
Mr. Chow will groom him into an NFL pro. If you want to compete in a real
conference and then go professional, wear Ute red, white, and black.But don't take my word for it which school grows professional QBs. Take a
look at Alex Smith's career vs. John Beck's. You're making the
right choice Jake.
Riley Nelson's heart and soul is with the Cougars. Jake Heaps does not give
Jake, Wish you well. I'm sorry that you and BYU didn't have the
patience to allow you to grow into an outstanding quarterback. I hope you find
the right place for you to gain some maturity.I hope you and your
family finds success.
I still can't say it Do you really want to compare QBs . The Y vs
the U . Nice try !!
He is a quiter.
@ yourstruly - Your Cougs? Hardly!
Well, I'm proud to say that I actually called this right after they benched him
for Nelson. With Mangum coming in as a better pocket passer (elite 11 MVP) and a
more humble qb, Heaps really has no chance.As for Washington State, Leach
already has Halliday, who not only is a great passer but physically and mentally
tough (he finished the second half of the Utah game with a lacerated liver after
a Utah hit! come on, that's toughness right there)No way he'll play for
Utah or Ohio State, Whit and Meyer wouldn't put up with his mental weakness and
Utah's loaded next year with 6-7 qb'sCal might take him, that would be
interesting to see how everything turns out.Thing is, he's talented, no
doubt, but not many good programs are going to touch him with a ten foot pole.
Most are already two or three deep with good qb's, so they'll take incoming
freshman to get more years out of them. Whatever he chooses, I wish him
the best of luck. . .except against the Utes.
I kind of thought Heaps showed a lot of potential to be the quarterback of the
the future at BYU, but he consistently throws the ball behind his receivers and
throws interceptions. I hope he has a great college football career wherever he
goes, but it just didn't work out at BYU. Say whatever you want about the
coaches, but Heaps just didn't perform well in the big games at the beginning of
the season. How do you lose 54-10 to Utah?
@ Pic 6I have no problem comparing Ute and Cougar QBs. However, we
have to keep it real and look at players from the last decade and not the 1970s.
Good Luck Jake. Was for the best. BYU can move on as well. Here is
looking forward to a win in the bowl game and a great run next year. Nelson is a
Maybe Jake should give Boise State a try? Kellen Moore is a senior.
So you would rather have Nelson for one year than Heaps for two? Wow, stupid is
as stupid does!
Not a surprise. Though I feel it is a mistake to leave, good luck to Jake.Life will go on with Riley, Lark and the others.At the end
of the day, the Utes will still have a QB problem and no backup. What's new?
I'd rather my team blow out an overconfident, overhyped rival like BYU and take
loss to Colorado than lose to BYU 54-10 any season. Utah's season wasn't great
but they were playing for something at least. The Utes will try again next
year. Once BYU got their doors blown off 54-10 they only had helmet stickers
and slogan t shirts to play for. Yep, score is still 54-10 and byu fooseball is
full of quitters just like the QB, just like the coach and just like the OC who
is still on training wheels.
Jake is much smarter than most have ever given him credit for.
Wow 277 comments. Proof how much sports are over rated in this country. An
athletes decision to transfer schools is front pages news? I enjoy following
sports, especially college but this is to much. I could really care less where
Jake Heaps plays football.
Heaps could transfer to the U and Whit would transfer him to the defense. Good
luck Jake where ever you go.
All this says is that he is quitting, picking up his ball, and going somewhere
else. You could see this coming form when he had his press conference, touting
himself. No humility. Then he gets his nose smacked by the big boys in college
football, and he doesn't adjust, or isn't ready yet. All he has to do is learn,
and he would have probably done awesome. Tell me this makes sense. He could of
stayed, worked his butt off to get better, maybe win starting job, or if not,
redshirt and get it the next year. He won't be able to play next year anyway,
unless he goes to a lower division school, so he would still not be playing. So
either way, he would be using a year to learn game better. He got lucky in
playing as soon as he did, but he wasn't ready. It showed. Every school
recruits on potential, not all make it, or are as good as they thought. It is
one thing to play HS football and not be tested,due to the team built around
you, but another when you have to fight to get a win, it does build character.
I have always liked the idea of Heaps in there instead of Nelson.But
...Nelson has hit the open receivers.Heaps has not.Nelson has made plays.Heaps has not.As much as I
wanted Heaps in there, it's hard to argue against production.
Nobody got the red carpet treatment like Jake Heaps. Don't blame the coaches for
anything but not making Heaps earn his spot.They will never make
that mistake again.
I love reading how the BYU pipeline is full of great QB's. Once again, BYU fans
are "counting their chickens before they hatch."Enjoy
Nelson. He has true "heart" and will give all he has to win a game. I
enjoy watching him play.To those who think Heaps will end up at
Utah, think again. He is not a Utah guy.Go Utes!
Cougs, cougs, cougs--the problem isn't Heaps. The problem is your coaching
staff. Your head coach is in over his head, and your OC is too young and
inexperienced. If they knew what they were doing, they could develop an
"NFL quality" QB to his fullest potential. Instead, I guarantee Norm
Chow would have him passing circles around your defense (ok,not really that hard
to do, I admit). As a team, you have reached your max potential. To get better,
you'll need a new head coach.
NeilTClearfield, UTWow 277 comments. Proof how much sports are over
rated in this country. An athletes decision to transfer schools is front pages
news? I enjoy following sports, especially college but this is to much. I could
really care less where Jake Heaps plays football.And yet, you had to
@JayDee"My last comment simply touched on the irony of ripping
on BYU quarterbacks instead of ignoring the elephant in the room that is the
sorry state of the quarterback position at the U of U."And it's
a darn good thing for BYU fans that the U has a sorry QB state.Can
you imagine how bad 54-10 would have turned into if the U had the stable of 5*
QB's that BYU has?Can you imagine what the 7-3 record for Utah over
BYU the last decade would be if the U had the stable of 5* QB's BYU has?Exactly.
Ummm.. Riley's family was at little brother DJ's high school football game in
Logan that Friday night in question.Nice try though.....get's everybody
all worked up and talking about your article around the water cooler.
I am rolling on the floor laughing. Not at Jake but at the Ute fans. For the
past two years we have heard nothing but garbage about Heaps now, read how many
are talking about the bad mistakes by BYU and welcome to the PAC 12 or just
whatever. It is a simple fact, we are going to play better talent in the next
couple of years..sure we have the WAC teams too but Jake showed, he has a hard
time against superior teams. Granted, Riley didn't play those games so can't
compare apples to apples but, it is what it is. Heaps had a decent year last
year but followed it up with a bad year. Don't blame Doman for all of this, I
watched Heaps, he throws too hard, makes too many mistakes and kills his team. I
am sure Doman didn't teach him to do that. Sure he has talent but can he really
use it. Let's see what happens to him in the future, only time will tell.
He could have redshirted a year and been a starter for two years after that.
All I see here is a lack of patience. Remmber Marc Wilson and Jim McMahon? This
is more like Steve Young and Gym Kimball. I don't wish Gym's fate on Jake, but
I think he made a mistake.
The guy couldn't cut it. His performance on the field got progressively worse.
It was a good PR stunt selling him, though.
I lost full respect for him after he quit during the INT in the first game of
the season.I don't want a quitter leading my team.Goodbye and good
riddance.Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
The grand experiment is over after a no-fault divorce. RIP.
I'm so sad to see this happen. BYU failed him. Certainly the coaching staff
failed him. They failed Jake completely. Clearly, BYU coaching still brings
up the rear of the profession. No other school is trying to hire Bronco...we're
stuck with him for years to come.
@ So. Cal. Reader 12:11 p.m. Dec. 5I am not surprised that you (and
so many other Y fans) are blinded to incredible hype that goes on for BYU. When
it comes to off-season hype, BYU is undisputed national champion. For you to
compare the Jake-Heaps-will-be-the-next-Jimmer prediction to a few news stories
that outlined the statistical possibility that the Utes, despite a crummy
season, could conceiveable play in the PAC-12 championship game is revealing and
really undercuts anything you have to say. While I and many Ute fans hoped for
a great year, I did not expect one and certainly made no predictions that the
Utes would win the PAC-12. Would have been nice, but serious talk about it only
came up when there was a slim chance to get in. The Utes lost to Colorado and
failed to get in. But there was not a pre-season declaration that they would
get in. Can you see the difference between this and a pre-season
declaration that Heaps is going to be the next Jimmer? Please try to think.
Fans like you are what make BYU a joke.
Too bad about Heaps leaving. I don't understand why everyone is blaming Riley or
saying that he and Bronco should be transfering. Riley lost his starting job to
Heaps last year after he was injured but he didn't quit. He stayed positive and
worked on his game and when his opportunity arose he was ready and produced.
Heaps could have done the same thing. I wish Heaps the best, but you can't argue
with the fact that Riley gets it done.
I bet he ends up at Cal.
Jake Heaps was undoubtably victimized by an inexperience quarterback coach and
an offensive coordinator. Perhaps he was expected to do too much with the tools
and talents he had coming out of high school. Some high school players are just
given too many kudos coming out of that level of play. The transition from high
school to Division I is huge. Jake is not a robo player. He needs more bulk,
and it is questionable he can flourish in a bigtime program without the
coaching, and players to help him. There were too many question marks in the
overall team makeup as he arrived in Provo.Obviously we all wish him
all the best, and hope he lands in the right program.
I never understood all the gushing about Heaps' potential after watching him
play a few games. Great arm, sure . . but since when has a great arm made a
great QB? Ryan Leaf had a great arm, didn't he?Heaps had accuracy
problems, decision-making problems (forcing throws that weren't there) and
body-language problems. I honestly hope he becomes something close to what he
was anointed to be (by dozens of scouts and pubs around the country, not just
supposedly delusional BYU fans) somewhere else, but, man, does he have some work
to do.To the guy that insisted he's second only to Andrew Luck in QB
talent, I just must not know football as well as you do. Or something.
long time cougWhat does snow have to do with Jake Heaps leaving the
y for something better. I would expect something better from a lnog time coug.
jarka-rusUp at the U making $120 grand a year coaching. Why go
there, at least he was in the Sugar Bowl and they beat Alabama, he had a great
game. What does this have anything to do with Jake Heaps leaving the y for a
BYU will recover from the loss of Heaps and the bigger question is how BYU
recruits blue chip athletes and treats team. Will transfer of highly prized
recruit like this put a disdain on BYU recruiting efforts? Other questions like
BYU offensive under Doman is different than Anae and will it produce wins as
Anae was hired in and Doman promoted within by Mendenhall? Heaps had the
opportunity as starter since last season and lost it to Riley. Riley earned the
starting position not due to injury like Heaps did last year. Players don't
schedule their opponents but are expected to win against those scheduled before
them. Same with assistant coaches are expected to have their players execute
better than the opposing teams. BYU needs to toughen up their schedule if they
want to be considered in the top 25. If BYU had this 9-3 season in PAC12, Big12,
or Big East conference, BYU would be a top 25 ranked team by the pollsters
(sports media and coaches) and playing in a far better bowl than Armed Forces
bowl. Now if BYU wins this bowl game it will still probably be unranked due to
I seriously doubt that Heaps will end up at Washington. The feeling up here is
that he already had his chance, was offered a scholarship and left for BYU
instead. Even many WSU fans say take a pass on him.He will probably end up
as others have said at Cal.
Jake Heaps may still have great success as a college quarterback but he'd better
first decide to be a football player. Football is a violent sport requiring not
only agility, speed and talent (like throwing a football hard and straight) but
also toughness. I could be wrong but nothing I saw from Jake Heaps in any of his
games indicated a willingness on his part to take a hit. That part of his game
won't change just because he transfers to another school. While you have to
admire the great talent that is Jake Heaps, give me a guy with Riley Nelson's
heart to build my team around. And, don't expect anyone to leave with Jake. Apo
and Hoffman will stay with a proven winner.
I for one think that Heaps should have never started his freshman year and
possibly even redshirted his freshman year. He would have benefited from the
time to learn and grow and get used to the college level game. Given time to
develop, his talents would have been more polished and ready to be put to use on
the field. I wish him well where ever he goes and I hope he gets the
opportunity to grow and to start and prove himself. However, he does need to
take a lesson from Nelson and that is the lesson of being mentally tough and not
holding back out on the field. Nelson's winning hand is that he
will do what ever he can to get the win.
Hurray! It's about time.
Utes have to be praying Jake goes to a Pac 12 team. He has been the best player
for the Utes two games in a row now. Certainly no reason he can't make it three
or even four in a row if he shows up at a Ute opponents locker room.
"Utes have to be praying Jake goes to a Pac 12 team. He has been the best
player for the Utes two games in a row now."Correction: He was
your best player for you guys the last game. The game before that, Heaps was
tearing you guys to shreds. That game the best player for the Utes were the
guys in the stripes, a gifted win courtesy of the MWC.
Maybe Garrett Gilbert should reach out to Jake and exchange email addresses.
They could chronicle their rise to greatness as No. 1 prospects out of high
school to busts in college in the same year. Maybe a book deal or one of those
ESPN documentaries. Gilbert transferred to SMU, where will Heaps transfer to?
The apex of Jakes's career in Provo was the very 1st PC.I'll laugh
if Heaps end up at a Pac12 school or a Big 12 or a big east
re: MJB | 2:53 p.m. Dec. 5, 2011 And Maybe Brian Billick will be
OC.Then, I've heard Steve Young will be the head of the Law School
and teach a class on broadcast journalism
I think this must be the motto of the Ute Fan/BYU Hater club that is said five
times each day while facing south from RES:"Just so you know in
my world its Hate Byu day 365 days a year, 24/7."Ute fans don't
live for loving the Utes, they live to hate BYU!Thanks to
Camera2Head for proving my point!
Long time Coug,2 snow aided wins huh? Yeah, the snow really aided us
in the demolishing of UCLA, when they scored only 6 points. It snowed for all of
10 min in the first quarter, and was fine after that. We were the better team
both nights. However, if it was not for your WEAK schedule, and had you played
teams the caliber of Utah, TCU, Texas, USC, etc all year, you would not be in a
bowl game this year. See, I can do it to, and make stupid assumptions.