I really wish the writers for DN would quit encouraging Heaps to transfer. This
is like the 4th article now, right? You really know how to make a kid feel
welcome. I honestly think Heaps will be much better off by remaining
patient and staying put and redshirting a year. He'll probably get the reins in
2013. Besides, I don't think he'll garner much interest among significant D1
schools, especially with the promise of becoming a starter when he becomes
@ idablu,i couldn't have said it any better. honestly, why does
every writer think, and even encourage Heaps to transfer?? how would
transferring be better than staying?? either way he has to redshirt. the
biggest upside in staying is that he won't have to learn a new system. Heaps
has every bit of potential to become a great QB, and what he needs to learn is
to love the game the way Riley loves it, lead like Riley leads, and earn your
starting job like Riley earned his.
Congratulations BYU for returning the program to the glory days by beating up on
under 500 teams from second rate conferences losing only to teams with winning
records, and missing out on the opportunity, not once but twice to move to ACQ
conference. Heaps, go find a program that really cares about their program and
give yourself a chance to be all that you can be.
Why the extended story about Heaps? Other players get less playing time and
it's no big deal. The big story is that BYU is 9-3.
I hope Jake stays. All he needs to become a great quarterback is more time, and
a redshirt year would give him that time and leave two full seasons. I know it
has been a tough year for him, but if he cuts and runs he fails to learn the
lessons about overcoming adversity that will make him a better quarterback, and
a better man.
Have to agree with idablu ... A more forthcoming analysis of Riley's
passes yesterday would have to indicate that he did not look sharp passing,
significant yardage notwithstanding. He is no doubt gritty, and just playing
following the injuries he sustained attests to that. About the only thing I
could agree with from Mr. Harmon's article is that the receivers adjusted
incredibly well ... though to passes that were slow to arrive, sometimes
ill-advised, and frequently well off the mark. That there were no picks
indicates how vulnerable Hawaii's pass defense was (as opposed to their initial
run defense). This also points out just how misleading the QB-rating system is,
for Nelson didn't look all that "on" ... again, yardage and stats
notwithstanding.It would have been interesting to see what Heaps
would have done against that defense -- perhaps exceeding the previous two
games' efforts, though we'll never know.I love Nelson's grit and
football toughness. He won't play beyond the Cougar Blue, however, at least not
as a QB. Comparisons to Tebow are weakly associated (other than the distinction
as a running quarterback - though not yesterday.) Tebow actually throws a
better ball (heaven help us!) and performed (performs) his miracles against
significantly better defenses than USU and Hawaii.Heaps still has
the potential to play at the next level. He has the arm that defines today's
West Coast offense QB ... if he can gain the "killer instinct", and
distinctive look in the eye that every confident QB leader seems to possess. On
the sidelines and in the huddle, he doesn't yet seem to possess that
"look" held by the likes of McMahon, Young, Detmer, Wilson ... and a
slew of other non-BYU greats, who you felt by their demeanor would win on sheer
determination, (perhaps that's Nelson's contributing attribute?!), much less
talent.Biggest kudos -- the Blue Defense. Incredible job, much to
the credit of that (who is he?!) defensive coordinator / head coach, as well as
tough-nosed players executing incredibly well!!
boatersteve | 6:30 a.m. Dec. 4, 2011 Fruit Heights, Utah Congratulations Utah for returning the program to the glory days by choking
big time to under 500 teams. Honestly, I thought UNLV was as low as the Utes
If Jake has any intelligence he'll stay. The biggest mistake of his career was
when they started him over other more qualified players. He just wasn't ready
to be the starter as a true freshman. The kid has talent and drive but the hype
put him into a much too big spotlight. Given a red-shirt year he'll be in a
better position to lead the Cougars to more 10-win seasons.Stay
Jake.. don't listen to the idiot media.
I feel it's great that BYU has won the WAC!!! Great job guys! 9-3 is an amazing
record in the WAC
Wasn't the arguement in the Mtn. West when BYU and Utah were there, that it was
unfair to punish them for going 10-0 or whatever and not getting considered for
a BCS bowl because they could only beat those on their schedule and they took
them as they came. Seems that is exactly what each team must do.
That same arguement has been used against every non-automatic qualifying team
yet, ie: Boise State, TCU, Houston, Utah et.al.9-3 is a great year.
10-3 even better if it happens (still has not yet been played ragardless of the
posts that BYU will win or that BYU has already lost)Look at the
future schedule through the next few years and you find some pretty big names on
the schedule...however, there is no guarantee at this point how good any of them
will be when the game is played. Pretty much like every conference, every
C'mon Dick. Riley may have grit, but he does not have a legacy. That's just
ridiculous to say at this point.
Ironic Fact. Heaps, the guy with the huge arm, Has only 1 throw
that was for longer than 29 yards this year (it was for 37 yards).Nelson on the other hand has has completed at least 1 pass of 40+ yards in
every game in which he has had more than 7 pass attempts.And Heaps
has 89 more pass attempts on the season.I like Heaps. He has great
potential. He is just not as effective as Nelson is right now. I say let Heaps
redshirt in 2012 and comeback in to lead the Cougars to a BCS or even NC game in
2013. That may sound rather extreme, but look at the timing. It
will be Heaps 4th year in the system. On the offensive side of the ball he will
still have Hoffman, Apo, Falslev, Quezada, Alisa and all of you TEs. Basically
all of your skills positions will be 3rd year starters. There will be more
movement on defense, but Kyle Van Noy will be a senior and under Bronco the
defenses have usually been pretty good.Now look at the schedule.
Home: Texas, GerogiaTech, Utah, BSU.Road: Houston, Notre Dame, Washington
St. Pretty Good.
Interesting to note that UNLV also beat Hawaii by 3 touchdowns this year.
Legacy??? Please, he hasn't beaten a team who is any good or going to a bowl
game and BYU is unranked. But hey, the coaches love him so I'm sure he'll be a
really good QB his senior year who will get us ranked, beat a good football
team on our schedule and lead us to a victory in a meaningful bowl game? Sorry
to break it to some fans but the Legacy of Shiede, Nielsen, Wilson, McMahon,
Detmer, Young, Bosco & Sark is where it stops.
bYU schedule next year is as bad as this year. We will lose to Utah, and Boise.
It a toss up with Utah state, ND and GT. ND isn't that great, but their NBC
contact will pay us well we should join the Big 12, but our lawyer will not
If Jake transfers it will give people two years to complain about what BYU let
get away. The media just loves a story. Please stay Jake! Please!
@jenny83Also "interesting to note" that Hawaii also beat
colorado this year. And of course we all know who colorado beat.LOL!
oh and Sanjose also beat Hawaii..and that's when Hawaii still had there regular
Common-Tator | 8:31 a.m. Dec. 4, 2011 Saint Paul, MN...He has
the arm that defines today's West Coast offense QB...How does
someone who cannot throw across the middle be the definition of a West Coast
offense QB.I'm tired of this nonsense that we need to develop Heaps.
That's exactly what we are doing. The best place for him right now is on the
bench with a clipboard in hand.
Heaps is gone, and all BYU fans better pray that Nelson doesn't get hurt in
2012; otherwise, it will be a long, dreadful season.
Heaps will leave because he has seen the following three changes since he was
recruited by BYU: being replaced by Riley, BYU going independent, and Offensive
Coordinator (OC) has offensive schemes associated with when Doman was QB instead
of when Anae was the OC. Heaps was highly a recruited high school blue chip
athlete and stayed two consecutive years at BYU. Did he defer going on a LDS
mission to pursue this quest to be noticed by NFL scout as BYU starting QB? Now
he is married and 2nd string quarterback and not getting the exposure of playing
even though BYU is on ESPN. I wouldn't fault him for transferring as his desired
profession is playing in the NFL and playing in bowl games and against
competition teams that are ranked. Riley in turn deserves to be the starter as
Heaps was benched because of performance and not injury. I wish both
The smartest thing Heaps can do is transfer to school that has a good receiving
core, coaching, and program. If the Y had knocked off OSU last night then Heaps
would be wise to stay but the direction that Y is heading isn't particularity
notable or hopeful.
I remember another qb that supposedly did not have a good enough arm to play the
position, certainly not in the pros. He was drafted late and replaced during
the season a veteran "strong-armed" gb. His name is Joe Montana and I
believe he did pretty well as a "West-Coast" qb.
Those who are knocking the BYU schedule and how Heaps won't get into the NFL as
a second string blah blah blah whatever you want to say I encourage you to take
a long slow processing look at the current NFL rosters and see where each QB on
the rosters league wide are from.....If it validates your claim that playing
Tulsa and Oregon State as an unranked team then fine.... I will eat my crow but
if not, please take this as a lesson in waking up, knowing what you're talking
about or stay home and silent those jumpy fingers. Deal?
I'll save you some time.... How much of an anybody is Eastern Illinois? How big
a deal is Tony Romo? Is Heaps a Romo? His time at BYU would say no... Point in
case is that it isn't whom you play it is how well you play your position... If
you play your position well enough the NFL will take notice and recruit you
regardless of SEC Champion AQ status poll ranking or whatever.... If Heaps
continues to play as he has he will not get in the NFL... If however, he
redshirts his next season and watches the pro Nelson do his stuff and takes
dutiful notes and improves his butt off for 2013 and 14 he will get to the NFL
and do no worse than John Beck and possibly as well as Alex Smith.
As did Utah State Jenny so what is your point?
It's one thing for journalists wanting to increase readership to make unfounded
but controversial pronouncements - like Heaps SHOULD transfer, but when BYU fans
try to make a case that they are looking out for Jake's best interest in
suggesting he transfer, that goes beyond ludicrous. Can any of you that think
Jake transferring is the best thing for him address some interesting points:1. How easily will he be able to pick up a new offense quickly enough to be
effective next season? (he would probably have to sit out a season as a red
shirt anyway)2. How many quality teams out there have been highly
impressed with his performance so far? Do we know how much in demand he will
be?3. The very traits that Jake needs most of all to become a great
quarterback, the heart, the mental toughness, the magnetic leadership, are
abundantly demonstrated by his own team mate. Could he benefit from an
additional year learning from Riley? Since he would have to red shirt no matter
where he goes, why would it not be better to red shirt with a program he is
familiar with with receivers he knows well?4. If he took his ball and went
home (i.e., transfers just because he got beat out by someone else), what would
that say about his character, persistence and leadership? I don't
see that tranferring is going to help him, but we will find out soon enough
whether that is on his mind.
I have to admit that I have been very frustrated by this whole QB situation.
The bottom line is that they need the QB that gives them the best chance to win.
I think the coach has done that. A player should not lose his position to injury
and the one who gives you the best chance to win should start. So, that is
Nelson in my opinion. If Heaps and Nelson were even, then I would go with Heaps
because there is more upside for the future. But Riley just wins. Would Riley
have made a difference against Texas? I think so. Would Riley have changed the
Utah game? Only the score-not the outcome. I hope Heaps stays,
redshirts and skyrockets in his last two years. Staying or transfering, he only
has two years of eligibility left. He might as well do it here at BYU. My
bigger concern is how does he become a team leader that the team listens to and
follows?Go Cougs. BTW, I may end up at the LV bowl
again, BTW, watching my Broncos versus my Sun Devils. The fates are laughing at