As a BYU fan sorry to hear this. One kick and they would be in the championship
game. I'm sure you'll end in a decent bowl game and better for it next year. I
expected you would only win a couple games this first year, with your
quarterback problems early. Great season all things considered. Best of luck as
this goes forward.
"As ye sew..."It's funny that no one on the Ute squad knew
why they lost. After UNLV thumped them 27 - 0 a few years ago Whittingham
replied "I don't know why we lost."Better figure it out,
Utes, becauase your effort on Friday would have to improve to be pathetic.I wonder what they'll say if they get the Vegas Bowl? You know, the
"nothing bowl" everytime BYU played in it?I can't imagine
anyone would think the Utes had a prayer against Oregon if they had made the PAC
12 Championship play-off.Sweet Dreams.....Utes.....forever getting
what you deserved on Friday.
The Utes would beat Colorado 9 times out of 10. I have no doubt about it.
Colorado is a terrible football team. ASU did their part and caved in the last
half of the season in a choke reminiscent of the Boston Red Sox this year. UCLA
just got their head handed to them by USC 50 to zip. And yet...this is your PAC
12 South Division Champion! It is going to be a LONG winter for the Utes.
Colorado coach's had a superior game plan. They exposed Utah's weaknesses with
precision.1. They put 8-9 in the box on defense and we responded by
continuing to run the ball. 2. They blitzed from the outside and
we could not capitalize because Hay's could not change the plays and
does not have enough experience to react in that situation.3. They
exposed our extremely poor Safety play. Rowe and yes our beloved Brian
Blechen are very inexperienced. Rowe is not a very good tackler and Blechen misses more tackles than you think because he is always trying to take someones head off all the time.4. With great protection the Colorado
QB was able to wait for his TE's and receivers to make their secondary
route moves and when they did they completely confused our secondary
and SAFETYS and in a lot of cases were wide open. 5. This was
similar to what USC did to us as far as the passing goes.6. We are paying
a huge price for Whit's extremely poor QB recruiting. It all comes down
to having a QB who can excel and lead and we were sorely in that
Naw, it's as clear as a Sunday morning in Utah for the Utes' next bowl.Beatdown in Vegas Bowl IIor affectionately known as...Pac 10.2 Las Vegas Leftovers BowlGosh, I really hope they play
Boise but TCU will do in a pinch.ROTFL
"I don't think a loss like this diminishes the turnaround we've
had."I beg to disagree. I think losing to the worst team in
the conference at home when there was so much at stake for the team diminishes
the whole season.
What No comments? Chris B.? You like to shovel it deep, Where are all you Utah
fans? So much to say and no body who wants to read it.
Did anyone see how bad UCLA lost and looked? The PAC championship game is going
to be a major blowout unless Oregon reins in their players which they haven't
done, ever, under this coach. Sorry for the Utes but it likely saves a lot of
embarrassment for them in the championship game. Good luck in your bowl game
Utes. You will still get to a decent one.
Hey, now lets leave the Boston Red Sox out of it! only 83 days until spring
It's definately been an up and down season.Beat your rival. Lose on a last
second FG block v USC.Beat Pitt on the road. Get blown out by Cal.Win 4 in a row to make a run at the south. Lose by a FG to CU.Key
injuries. Unknowns stepping up. Snow, Sun. Up. Down.The Utes were
headed up towards the Alamo or Holiday bowl. Now with a loss against the team
with the worst record in the PAC-12, who knows?Oregon -> RoseStanford -> BCS at-largeUSC-> Season over. Time to convince
Barkley to stay.Cal-> AlamoWashington-> HolidayUtah->
SunArizona St.-> VegasUCLA-> KraftNo PAC-12 rep to the
New Mexico. If Stanford doesn't get an at-large (not likely) then, shift all of
them down one.I would be happy with the Sun, but boy would the
PAC-12 championship game been sweet.Up and down.
Let them play Boise State again for a gauranteed Bronco win, just like last
year! Go Broncos!
This is a great time to go out and get the recruites we need to play for a
title. ASU, UCLA U of A and WSU all coaches probably getting fired. Go out and
get the kids we need. Steal them if u have to just go get them now. I know U of
A hired a coach but u get the point
at A1994USC won the South, they just can't play in the Pac 12
championship and n any bowl game and this is coming from a UCLA grad! We didn't
win it especially after losing in the manner that we did. However, Utah losing
to Colorado after saying that CU as well as WSU were terrible teams....LOL
I'm not sure if the Utes should be dissappointed or relieved they are not
playing in the conference championship games. Oregon, USC, and Stanford are in
a completely different league than the other 9 teams. Maybe we should split the
league in half, and have a PAC3 and BOTTOMOFTHEPAC9. UCLA will be exposed by
Oregon just like they were by USC (50 points), and just like ASU or Utah would
have been if they would have made it to the game.This years
conference championship game is meaningless. We might as well give the Ducks
the trophy now. Maybe next year, when USC is eligible, the game will be worth
watching.I'm guessing Utes will end up in El Paso or Las Vegas.
With three teams at 7-5, and two team at 6-6; the bowls look at ability to fill
the stadium and potential TV ratings more than anything else.
A 7-5 record is about what I expected this year. But I didn't predict it
happening the way it did:I thought the Utes would be competitive
against all of their Pac-12 opponents, but they got blown out by Cal, ASU, and
Washington.I expected them to lose a game or two in which they were
favored (middle of the Pac-12 teams are capable of beating most teams on any
given Saturday), but didn't think it would be to the weakest team in the
conference - at home. The Utes played the #10 and #12 Pac-12 teams
in the last two weeks of the season, and are lucky they didn't lose them
both.Watching the Utes play so poorly, so uninspired, with a trip to
the Conference Championship Game on the line was very disheartening. You know
it's a bad one when the player who had the best game for the Utes was probably
Sellwood.The bottom line:The Utes are a top-third team
this year. Hopefully they can win a bowl game and take some momentum into the
offseason.While disappointed, I would rather play in the Pac-12 than
be in the MWC.
One kick and Utah may have beat USC in the Coliseum.One kick and Utah may
have been in the PAC-12 Championship.On the other hand, one missed kick
and Utah would have seen all their chances go up in smoke against Washington
State. Special teams is why Utah made it so far.We can't keep the
championship hopes on the special teams. The elephant in the room is this, we
need an offense to get it in the endzone. Special teams and defense can't win
every game. Sooner or later the kick is bound to miss.
"Oregon, USC, and Stanford are in a completely different league than the
other 9 teams."Same with the Big 12 (OU, OSU, KSU) and SEC (LSU,
Bama, Ark).BCS leagues are like that. They beat each other up, with
a few bubbling to the top. The "Bottom9" are still dangerous.
Dismiss a team because of their record, and the next thing you know, you've lost
to them at home by 44 points.
So are bowl decisions influenced more by season record or by conference
@Utah'95"The Utes are a top-3rd team this year."How do you figure that? Their 4-5 record would tie them for 6th place (out of
12) with 2 other teams and since both of those teams, asu and cal, beat utah,
pounded them actually, that would make utah to bottom of those 3 and place them
8th out of 12. That is the last team in the middle 3rd and since cu beat them
you could reasonably say cu is better and put utah in the bottom 3rd.I'll give you the bottom of the middle 3rd but not by any sort of stretched
logic can you place them in the top 3rd.
The Utes have to scout for a quarter back thats bigger than the cheerleaders on
the side lines. Its football, not hope you can take a hit because you're to
small, football. How many times have we seen tiny quarterbacks get taken out
after just after a few hits. While a quarter backs speed is important, they
have got to take a hit, and I'm sorry, but the little guys have to often time
after time proven to be vulnerable to take a hard hit.
Hey Soonerute, can you imagine what would have happened if you had played your
real rival the last game of the season? Playing like you dI'd against the
Buffs? And the Y with Nelson and not Heaps? Or does the U ( like USU in
basketball) only really only get sky high for BYU. You got to play all the
After the Utes beat the Ducks in the Conference Championship game, they are Rose
Bowl bound. Awesome...Go Utes!
I can't wait to watch utah play in the pac12 championship game next weekend and
in the rose bowl in January. This is really exciting for our state.
I loved this season. What fun for the fans. Last week of the season (12th
game) and I was following Four Key games. Rooting for Stanford (to get a BCS
bowl game), USC (to beat UCLA), Cal (to beat Ariz. State) and of course Utah.
The one I wanted the most did not win. But with 2 seconds left in the game we
still had a loooooong shot at the Rose Bowl, and if we had won likely the Alamo
bowl, still possible is the Holiday Bowl, the Sun Bowl, and, yes, the Las Vegas
Bowl - all of which pay out $1-3 million and are all higher profile bowls than
many others. To me, a 7-win 5-loss record is incredible with what
7-8 season ending injuries to key players including the one player we could no
do without. With possibly one or two exceptions I have never been more
impressed with the coaching than I was this year. And all this in a BCS
conference and the most difficult season schedule for Utah ever.Thank you, players, coaches, and the entire football program. Go
To sammyg and others bashing Utah.Unfortunately this is the closest that
BYU will get to a BCS conference. By making fun of a school that belongs to
one.Its clear now that we will never be accepted. We gave up two
opportunities to join one of our own choosing.
@Duckhunter"and since cu beat them you could reasonably say cu is
better and put utah in the bottom 3rd."I was with your analysis
until you said that. Upsets happen. When you are ranking a conference you have
to look at their entire body of work. Otherwise you're stuck with "okay so
colorado goes above utah because they beat utah, and utah beat ucla so ucla goes
below utah, but ucla beat colorado so they go... above colorado? wait a
minute". A better argument that utah should be in the bottom third (though
I would still put them 8th above Wazzu, Oregon State, Colorado and Arizona in
some order) would be that utah didn't play stanford and oregon so they most
likely would have been 4-7 in conference play if there were 11 conference games.
@at134Well we are arguing over 8th place or 9th place. Who really
cares? The point is that they are by no means in the Top-3rd. Not even close.
Welcome to the Pac 12. On any given Saturday.
Colorado should be crowned king of the spoilers. Going into the weekend, three
teams had a shot to make the inaugural PAC12 championship game but the Buffaloes
upset of the Utes negatively impacted all three teams:* Utes knocked
out of contention with the loss* ASU knocked out of contention before
their Friday night game even started* UCLA, now 6-6, will almost assuredly
lose the championship game, reducing their record to below .500 and, barring
appeal, knock them out of bowl eligibility.This could be the biggest
single "spoiler" game of all time!
Too bad the Vegas Bowl is tied to the MWC and the PAC. Otherwise, Utah could
end up playing and losing to Utah State in a bowl game. It still might happen.
Now that'd be sweet indeed. Can you imagine the howling from the
hill, if the Utes were relegated to playing USU in a bowl and the Aggies won?
I am praying that UCLA beats Oregon. The BCS sham is really on the hot seat
@no conference will take usYou are obviously a utah "fan".
My guess is you are simply the latest screen name for kosta articuno hondo
duckhunted coolguy etc.You're fooling no one.
So, a team that is barely bowl eligible and loses 50-0 to the best team in the
PAC12 southern division, which is ineligible for any bowl because of cheating,
will be playing for the conference championship and could be playing in the Rose
Bowl. Boy, is that PAC12 a great conference or what?
@Utah'95;You wrote, "The Utes played the #10 and #12 Pac-12
teams in the last two weeks of the season, and are lucky they didn't lose them
both." That observation doesn't support your conclusion that we're in the
top third of the conference. There is no question that we're better off in the
PAC12 than the MWC, but we're not one of the top four teams. Oregon, Stanford,
and USC are easily the top three. I'd say Washington is the fourth best team in
the conference. UW had the same overall record as the U, but were 5-4 in
conference and beat us. Re-read your own statement: "Watching
the Utes play so poorly, so uninspired, with a trip to the Conference
Championship Game on the line was very disheartening."We've got
a long way to go. Getting a good junior college QB on campus in the spring
should be the highest priority.
Duckhunter said:"@no conference will take usYou are
obviously a utah "fan". My guess is you are simply the latest screen
name for kosta articuno hondo duckhunted coolguy etc.You're fooling
no one."I'm willing to bet its you or another lost kitty hat
fan.The depths that posters will go to here. Geeesh.
And yet if one of those three field goals had been made and we would have
executed in overtime, we would have had the fourth best record in the
conference. That is how slim the difference between 4th and 8th is.The craziness that could happen is if UCLA bounces back from that 50-point
drubbing to beat Oregon. Obviously, I don't think that will happen, but also
don't think UCLA will get a waiver on bowl eligibility at 6-7 either.Can a 6-6 ASU team be picked ahead of a 7-5 Cal, Washington, or Utah? As I
read the rule on bowl eligibility at 6-6, they can't be selected if there is an
available team with a winning record. But, does that mean that the Sun Bowl
could ignore Utah and select Arizona State?
@no conference will take usUtah belongs in a BCS conference for now,
but the latest rumblings from the BCS is a proposal to have a national title
game only between the top 2. I am sure the other bowls like the Rose, Fiesta,
etc.. will still be around but they would no longer be BCS games so winning your
conference won't get you into the BCS. This could have been part of B.Y.U.'s
reason why they turned down the Big East as well as their T.V. deal they have.
The BCS is meeting in January and if this does happen it would happen for the
2014 season so we will wait and see.
Check out ESPN's Nov 23, 2011 edition of the "Bottom 10" (search for
it on their website).Yup, Colorado was there.
@Still Blue after all these years It's comments like yours that make
it sweet when USU beats BYU in basketball or football. As far as basketball
goes though, it's not a huge deal. The Aggies USUALLY beat BYU in basketball.
In the past decade, USU has won the majority of the games.I wouldn't
be surprized to see the football series start to even out too. But for one
fluke deflection, USU would have had two in a row over BYU.
Duckhunter,When I said that Utah was a top-third team, I meant in
the nation, not in the Pac-12.I agree with you - the Utes are a
middle-third team in their current conference.
@A1994"But for one fluke deflection, USU would have had two in
row over BYU."You're not the 1st usu fan to make this claim. Of
course you all completely ignore that on the play that pass was defelcted usu
was called for a pass interference penalty which would have given BYU the ball
1st and goal inside the 1 yd line with 13 seconds to play and with timeouts
left. It is a pretty likely that BYU scores from inside the 1 with at least 2
opportunities.But it really doesn't matter does it? BYU won. usu
blew it by giving up the bomb to Jacobsen as well as multiple other defensive
meltdowns that allowed a 90+ yd drive in about 1 minute. If usu
really does "even it out" then come on back and tell us about it but
one win in 20 years doesn't even begin to "even" anything out.Also BYU and USU are 6-6 in basketball since their 1st meeting this
century. usu's win this season only just evened it up the last decade. BYU holds
the all time record by about 50 wins. Hows that for usu "usually"
beating BYU? LOL!
OK, so the screeners at the DN won't allow me to say the Utes stunk up the
field. So I can't say that.They won't let me say dimWhit was
outcoached, so I won't say that either.Oh, yea, the hypocritical
screeners at the DN's won't let me say anything negative about the Utes, so I
guess I can't say anything at all.Well, actually, they do allow the
Ute fans to bash BYU without censure, any nasty comment, anything negative about
BYU will get past the flunkys who graduated from the U and now hold the censor
pen, but then, I can't say anything negative about the Cougars because there is
nothing to say. At least I'm not going to talk about the basketball
game last night....that would certainly get approved.So, here it
is:Yep, that's all I'm allowed to say about the Ute debacle at Rice
The mighty PAC-12 is going to have a strange situation. UCLA goes
into the conference championship game hoping for a miracle win and the BCS Bowl
invitation. But if they lose (and a 50-0 game is possible) they will be 6-7 and
not even bowl eligible. UCLA should graciously decline the game
allowing Utah to go and represent the South. That way even if Utah was to lose
everybody could still go to all those bowl games.
Friday was a tough loss for sure. The Utes should have never been in that
position at the end of the game. They made too many mistakes and had a couple
of huge injuries that required a couple players to step up. I feel bad for
Petersen - he had been pretty solid all season in an area that was a big
question mark to start the season.I'm still happy with the overall
record of the season. I was thinking they would be successful to have a 7 or 8
win season and that was before we lost our QB. I was very pleased to see them
thrash their rival by 44 points. Too bad the cougs couldn't make it more
competitive.I'm never surprised by the smack talk by coug fans - but
to hear them bash USU in this comment board is funny. After all Utah State is
the only team with a winning record that they beat this year. Please save all
the if we played you now talk. The only outcome that would change is that now
USU knows how to finish games. Victories over the teams you played in Nov are a
Sooner Ute: Beg to differ regarding the SEC. Arkansas got blown out by both LSU
& Bama, frankly I'm clueless why the hogs are still in the top 10. Georgia
might possibly be the third, but we'll find out soon enough about that won't we.
Remember the bowls get to pick who they want. I do not think the Sun Bowl will
take Utah over Arizona St. ASU is only about a 5-6 hour drive from El Paso.
The Sun Bowl will take the Devils, because of proximity to the Bowl sight. Utah
either ends up in the Vegas or Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl in San Fran. I guess
change of conference didn't get you a better Bowl. The Utes are in the same old
bowls they've been in before. But being in the Pac 12 is not a bad thing. USC
is able to play in the championship game and bowl game again next year. It is
going to be hard for the Utes to ever play in the Championship game, with USC
Any bowl Utah gets will be better than the Copter Bowl our Y team gets!Band of Brothers forever
The utes lucked out with Washington State, but reality caught up with Colorado.
The utes are a mid to lower tier pac team.
@ worf | 10:38 p.m. Nov. 27, 2011 Mcallen, TX Who beat your
team 54-10 and made them quit.LOL
54-10,How long do you hold on to a fluke? Give it up.Who beat your team 17-14 and made them quit?
@ 54 - 10Where's all your angst against UCLA by losing 50 - 0 to
USC? That's a greater margin than 54 - 10 that you trumpet at least 3 times on
every DNews story, either Utah or BYU. I find that very interesting (the fact
you ignore the UCLA/USC score) because that was the last piece of the puzzle
that Utah needed to be in the PAC 12 Championship game. So where's the comments
about that?Perhaps it's because the score was MOOT after CU defeated
U on your home field on Friday. Can you say embarrassed? Because that's really
what they did to the U; embarrassed them.You, Chris B, niner's,
Naval Vet, alt134, uteology and all your cronies enjoy watching U lose to TCU in
the Vegas Bowl. Surely you remember the Vegas Bowl---it's the one U fans said
was a "nothing bowl" every time BYU played in it. Using that logic,
welcome to "nothing"----U traded an opportunity to be in the inagural
PAC 12 Championship Game for an opportunity to LOSE to CU. Good Trade!! (A
39-yard first half was a tremendous showing for Utah's offense, too.) LOL!! Dec 22 Vegas Bowl---LOL!!
It was either lose a close one at home (missing 3 field goals) or get humiliated
by Oregon the week after. In either case BYU fans would finally get their
"release". I guess it would be fun to tweak them one final week, which
would drive some of them to a complete nervous breakdown. But at the end of the
day, as a Utah fan, I knew my team wasn't at a level to compete with the top
teams in the pac-12. They need a lot more depth at key positions, more
experience, and better coaching. I would much rather my team get to the Pac-12
championship game, not by needing the stars to align, but rather by destroying
every team(not just BYU) on its schedule.
@d'anconiaGreat points. Losers always gain perspective. It looks
like you've gained yours.
@DuckhunterHere is some perspective for you. Your team got its eyes
beat shut by Utah. You do realize that every time you belittle Utah, you are
only making your team look that much worse?
@d'anconiaKeep clinging to that.Le minerai de plus que
les choses changent elles restent les memes.LOL!
@DuckhunterThat was for your benefit, not mine.Cheers
@DuckhunterPlease man, just go away. I'm a BYU fan and you're not
helping here!! Stop! D'Anconia beat you down! Stop!
Let the reminiscing of the good ole days begin!
COUGARNATE:"Utah either ends up in the Vegas or Kraft Fight
Hunger Bowl in San Fran. I guess change of conference didn't get you a better
Bowl. The Utes are in the same old bowls they've been in before."If there had been ONE at least semi-respectable media outlet that was
projecting Utah to go to the New Mexico Bowl, cougar fans would have been all
over it. But when the majority of sportswriters place Utah in the Sun Bowl,
cougar fans frantically and emotionally cling to the least probable scenerio of
Utah winding up back in Vegas.You cannot "guess [the] change in
conference didn't get [us] a better Bowl" because the bowl invitations
haven't been issued yet. I know you cougar fans are REALLY HOPING that Utah
doesn't get the Sun, because if we did, you all know that Utah's Pac-12 fate
would be an enormous improvement over our potential MWC bowl destinations, and
you're all still smarting about not being wanted. Funny thing is, Vegas is
still > than Ft. Worth. Haha!But you were right about Utah back
in the same old bowls we've been before. We won the Sun back in '38.
toodumbforus:"Where's all your angst against UCLA by losing 50
- 0 to USC? That's a greater margin than 54 - 10 that you trumpet at least 3
times on every DNews story, either Utah or BYU."Well we
wouldn't be harping on the Bruins HERE. Bruin fans don't frequent the DNews.
Nope...over HERE, we say "54-10" because THAT's who reads these
articles and comments. Besides, it's kind of hard to blast a team with a better
conference record than us for losing by such a wide margin, and ESPECIALLY on
account of them losing to the leagues BEST team at USC, whereas we just got beat
by the leagues WORST team at Home. I hope you and all your frantic
and emotional cronies enjoy seeing Utah NOT playing TCU in the Las Vegas Bowl,
but rather an ACC team in El Paso.Oregon-Rose; Stanford-Fiesta;
Washington-Alamo; California-Holiday; Utah-Sun; Arizona State-Las Vegas; Nobody
toodumbforus:"As ye sew..."Haha! Looks like
cougar fans are at it again in butchering English vernacular. It isn't
"sew"; it's "sow". As in "sowing a field"
vis-a-vis "planting that which one intends to reap".And
don't try to come back here with excuses such as "typo". The
"e" is the middle finger of your left hand; the "o" is the
ring finger of your right. You just didn't know the proper usage of this common
expression. So back to grade school for you.
Naval: you are absolutely right. We don't want to see Utah vs TCU. We all know
which team would dominate that bowl game. Definitely NOT Utah.
@naval lintI love how you have been completely absent from all of
the utah/colorado game threads. LOL!Now you are trying to tell us
that going to a bowl that no one cares about, sun bowl, in perhaps the worst
destination in the USA, el paso, is somehow "prestigious",
"relevent", "desirable", or any other spin you want to put
on it. If I was you I'd be praying one of the San Diego Bowls or the Vegas Bowl
is where utah will go, not the sun bowl. Who, outside of chris hill, cares if it
pays a bit more than those other bowls. Going to el paso is the equivalent of
having your bowl game played at envirocare or dugway proving grounds. It is an
D'AnconiaYou do realize that every time you belittle BYU, you
belittle your own record. After all, I've heard many times that the BYU
thrashing was one of Utah's quality wins? Opponent with a winning record?Personally, I don't care. Your team humiliated my team and I still love
my team. I respect your team. But I do gag over some of your over-inflated
I'd rather see my team playing an AAC team in the Sun Bowl than a C-USA team in
the Helicopter Bowl and so would most honest BYU fans. (Note to all the haters
who will reply with ridiculous comments - I did not make any negative comment
about your team, this post is simply about which is the better bowl option.)
54-10 still stings.
@CO UteI wouldn't rather go to the sun bowl than the Helicopter
Bowl. The truth is they are both just bowl games. No real prestige in either of
them despite the attempts to claim the Sun Bowl is somehow prestigious. As a fan
I don't really give a crap that the Sun Bowl pays more, that doesn't matter to
me. BYU has plenty of money plus I don't get any of it. El Paso is probably the
most dirty, disgusting, scroungy city in the USA. I've been there several times
for BYU football and basketball games and other than the game itself nothing
else there is worth ever seeing. Ft. Worth on the otherhand is a pretty cool
city with alot of stuff to do. So from a purely where would I as a fan prefer to
go and spend a bowl week perspective I would much prefer to go to the Helicopter
bowl in Ft. Worth than the Sun bowl in El Paso.Now if the utes are
chosen for one of the San Diego Bowls then it is a no brainer and I as a fan
would much rather go to San Diego.
LOL duhkhunter, please keep telling yourself you'd rather play Tulsa, another
mid-major, for a $600K payout rather than play Virginia or Georgia Tech in a
$2MM payout game!Thanks for your continued irrational spins, it just
shows me how obsessed you are with the University of Utah.FYI, Sun
Bowl (ACC vs. PAC-12) > mid-major chopper bowl (Conf. USA vs byu).
Duckhunter:"I love how you have been completely absent from all
of the utah/colorado game threads."You noticed that did you?
Maybe you should change your name to "Naval Vet Hunter" then.
Stalker.Anyhow, did you ALSO notice that last Friday was part of
Thanksgiving weekend? I was traveling. I don't drive and type at the same
time.As for the prestige of the Sun Bowl, did you know that along
with the Orange and Sugar Bowls, the Sun is tied as the nation's 2nd oldest
postseason game? Did you know that the per team payout is over $2M? Sounds
pretty prestigious to me. If it weren't the bowl opponent would most likely be
some C-USA also-ran team.And I love how at 4:44, you pan going to El
Paso as a horrible bowl destination, but then follow that post up 5-hrs later to
boast of going there yourself "several times" for regular season
matchups. I guess it can't be THAT bad if you'd make multiple trips to watch
the cougars take on that juggernaut "UTEP" [*snicker*]!Bowl games > Regular season games vs. UTEP;Sun Bowl > Armed Forces
Bowl, and you KNOW it!
@naval lintYep you're very bitter about last friday. But of course
you posted in other threads during the weekend so your excuse is, how shall we
say this, false.Of course how would I know what a pit el paso is if
I hadn't been there? But as far as how presitigious the sun bowl is, well, it's
not. Who really cares? No one at all except for the fans of the teams playing in
it and even then I guarantee all of them would have rather gone somewhere else.
I don't care what the payout is, I don't care if you're playing a mid level acc
team, I don't care if the el paso convention and visitor buereu tells you that
it is the garden spot of the planet. I know it is not a nice place to visit and
that no one cares about the sun bowl. I'd say have fun but of course
you won't be going to it anyway now will you.I wonder of there will
be buses for the few utah "fans" that will go? They'll need them
because it is almost impossible to fly there from SLC.
Duckhunter:"Yep you're very bitter about last friday. But of
course you posted in other threads during the weekend so your excuse is, how
shall we say this, false."Was it? Okay then....please identify
the articles I posted on.As for El Paso....I spent my Jr. and Sr.
years of high school in TX. I've been through El Paso, so I know what it's
like. I wouldn't spend an entire week there, but neither would I in Pasadena,
San Antonio, San Diego, Las Vegas, or San Francisco. I'd just fly down the day
before the game, and fly back the day after. There isn't a single city in the
Pac-12's, MWC's, or Indy-WACs possible postseason destinations that I hadn't
already been to, so it isn't as though I'd have been doing any sight-seeing
anyway."...no one cares about the sun bowl."That's just your mid-majored sour grapes speaking. You care. You wish the Y
could get invited to a top multi-million bowl game, but in the end, even YOU
know the cougars are just too mid-majorey for a prestigious bowl like the Sun.
Armed Forces vs. CUSA is more YOUR speed.
@naval lintNope. The sun bowl would be the absolutely last bowl,
with the exception of the one in Boise, that I would want my team to attend.When I go to regular season football or basketball games on the road I
generally just go for the game and don't spend any more time in the city I go to
than that. But for a bowl game, well my family usually makes a vacation of it
and we spend several days there and enjoy everything about the experience.Now you won't be going to the sun bowl anyway so all of your tortured
postulations about it are pretty much irrelevent, it could be in any city
anywhere and you'll just be watching on tv unless you can't get your shift at
taco bell covered. But as far as the sun bowl being any better than
any other of 30 something bowls that aren't being played for the championship,
well it isn't. And the destination is demonstrably worse. You can make all the
claims about how prestigious and lucrative you think it is but you aren't
convincing anyone. It's just a low tier bowl in a dump.
Utah fans, dont worry about what bowl you will end up in, because its not going
to happen. You're tied for 7th in the PAC and other teams like ASU and CAL
travel better than you. So better luck next year. Your season is over.
DaCha2, If Utah is really tied for 7th in the PAC-12 like you say
they are, shouldn't the Utes be playing LSU for the National Championship at the
mid-tier Holliday Bowl?6-5 Michigan was tied for 7th in the BIG-10
in 1984 and they played the WAC powerhouse byu who came from behind to beat them
and claim the only NC with an "*".FYI Da, eight PAC-12
teams will go to bowl games and all eight bowls payout is higher than the
mid-major chopper bowl in beautiful Fort Worth, Texas.Duhky, lower
tier bowls payout $600K (see mid-major chopper bowl). The mid-tier Sun Bowl
invites ACC and PAC-12 schools and pays each team $2MM. While El Paso isn't on
my list of favorite cities, I find it equal to Ft. Worth. The ONLY thing better
about Ft. Worth is its a short drive away from Dallas.Thanks for the
@midmajorWell just like most of the other utah "fans" on
here you'll be staying home and watching it on tv anyway so I suppose the fact
it is in the nations armpit is no big deal. Well except that if it was in San
Diego you'd probably all be going so yea I suppose the location does matter.If you do decide to take that bus trip to el paso please check in and
let us know all of the fun stuff you're doing, the great sites you're seeing,
and how big your share of the bowl payout turns out to be.
Duhkhunter,I always go to Utah's bowl games, only missed one since
the McBride era. I will be sure to send you a postcard.What's up
with your talk of a "bus trip"? Is that how you travel to byu bowl
games? I wouldn't waste time on a bus.I'm convinced you haven't
been in Ft. Worth because it isn't much better than El Paso. The only advantage
is that it's close to Dallas.Are you a "fan"? Will you be
watching byu's bowl on ESPN like all the other byu "fans"?Go Utes, Aggies and Cougars. 3 for 3 would be a nice finish to a frustrating
football season for our state.
@midmajor"I'm convinced you haven't been in Ft. Worth because
it isn't much better than El Paso. The only advantage is that it's close to
Dallas."Well if that is "the only advantage" it seems
like one heck of an advantage in comparison to being in El Paso which is no more
than spitting distance from Juarez, Mexico, the murder capital of the world,
and Las Cruces, New Mexico, the stink capital of the world. But hey to each
it's funny that any about BYU or Utah football turns into a battle. A Ute fan
comments on a BYU article, he is a troll. A byu fan comments on a Utah article,
he is a troll. Here is the bottom line - None of us have much to brag about
this season. - The Utes had a tough go. They weren't a good team, and that was
exacerbated by their complete lack of depth at the quarterback position. They
did not play tough competition and I don't believe that any U fan in his heart
believes that the PAC 12 South is top level football. On the other side of the
coin, BYU wasn't great this season either. They lost the games that mattered,
also had problems early on at QB, and completely melted down against TCU. They
barely beat USU and stormed the field (something I hope they look back on with
embarrassment). They played, not just bad teams, but boring teams later in the
season. Utah has one thing going for them - they are playing in a well
respected conference, a place every BYU fan wishes they were, even if they lie
and say the PAC12 stinks.