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Herman Cain: An implausible candidate's implausible story

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  • There You Go Again Saint George, UT
    Nov. 26, 2011 6:46 p.m.

    Cain is not able.

  • Kouger Lehi, UT
    Nov. 26, 2011 7:07 p.m.

    First of all, I don't see how and why this long article about Cain is reprinted in DN. Cain is NOT for real! That's the answer. This article only serves to try and resurrect Cain's defunct campaign and to make relevant the irrelevant. And I don't care about how much money he's raising or where he's at in some polls. He is essentially DONE! Any relevance left for Cain is also a reflection on the sad and pathetic state of those people who still support someone who was never serious from the beginning and who is clearly inept and unqualified to be president. I'd be more interested in articles on other real candidates. For Cain, he may already be regretting his decision to run; he's been exposed and tainted to say the least.

  • no fit in SG St.George, Utah
    Nov. 26, 2011 7:36 p.m.

    Cain appears to be a fairly adept salesman. As we see and hear more from him, many will suggest that he step aside, and continue in that line of work.

  • christoph Brigham City, UT
    Nov. 26, 2011 8:18 p.m.

    Cain will make a great president; he has charm, humor and believes in math-------perhaps we are all too uptight and need someone with those three characteristics.

  • durwood kirby South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 26, 2011 8:28 p.m.

    Show biz.

  • Red Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 26, 2011 8:51 p.m.

    We have Obama as president now. Even Cain would do a better job.

  • ego Laie, HI
    Nov. 27, 2011 12:16 a.m.

    To say that Cain would do a better job is ludicrous. Cain would be a lacky for the powerful. Another Bush Jr that was a mouthpiece for the powerful and influential....that made tremendous mistakes that have, and will continue, to cost us dearly.

  • Love Utah Draper, UT
    Nov. 27, 2011 1:46 a.m.

    Cain is a successful businessman and has brought companies back from the brink. I would like to see him bring the US back from the cesspool it has ended up in. This man brings experience, dedication and a lot of a hope. It would also eliminate any blame of racism on Obama's demise.

  • Cats Somewhere in Time, UT
    Nov. 27, 2011 6:23 a.m.

    I love Herman Cain. I think he's great. He's not ready to be president. Case closed.

  • DonO Draper, UT
    Nov. 27, 2011 7:21 a.m.

    Cain is a media candidate: Good copy, little substance. He will fizzle and fade like Bachmann, Perry and similar bottle rockets who are seeking the GOP nomination.

  • L Kaiser REDMOND, WA
    Nov. 27, 2011 8:12 a.m.

    Notice how he's not taking any questions, and has yet to dispell the allegations against him.

  • Cougar Blue N. Las Vegas, NV
    Nov. 27, 2011 8:46 a.m.

    Cain is just another in a long line of "jokes" running on the Republican party wannabee list. He was the "flavor of the month". I wonder who's next?

  • Doug10 Roosevelt, UT
    Nov. 27, 2011 9:36 a.m.

    Wonderful to get insight into this man

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Nov. 27, 2011 9:48 a.m.

    I think he's really neat because he's republican. He can get us back on track.

  • Furry1993 Clearfield, UT
    Nov. 27, 2011 9:55 a.m.

    to Cougar Blue | 8:46 a.m. Nov. 27, 2011
    N. Las Vegas, NV
    Cain is just another in a long line of "jokes" running on the Republican party wannabee list. He was the "flavor of the month". I wonder who's next?
    --------------------

    Probably Gingrich, and he's even worse than Cain.

  • The_Kaiser Holladay, UT
    Nov. 27, 2011 10:27 a.m.

    The Republican field has many candidates that lack the depth, the conviction, the experience, the knowledge and the integrity necessary to lead our country.

    Ron Paul is one of the exceptions.

  • Mike in Cedar City Cedar City, Utah
    Nov. 27, 2011 11:52 a.m.

    At this point I can't for the life of me see why any Republican could take Cain seriously. But the same can be said for most of the other Republican candidates as well. Cain was the last clown of the month, Gingrich is this month's offering.

  • cjb Bountiful, UT
    Nov. 27, 2011 12:02 p.m.

    He said to the un-employed, "If you don't have a job, if you are not rich it is your own fault".

    Earth to Cain, the United States is in a period of high un-employment. There are not enough jobs to go around right now. Your thinking is typical conservative republican. Were people to vote for you, they would deserve what they got.

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    Nov. 27, 2011 1:56 p.m.

    When people wait around for someone else to "give" them a job, they're going to be waiting a long time.

    Bill Gates didn't wait around until someone hired him to write BASIC. Apple Computer was not founded after the two Steves had customers pounding at their doors.

    Look at every successful businessman and you'll see that he believed in himself even if others didn't. He trusted his judgment when others held back. He invested his own money when others saw him as a risk.

    Mr. Cain is that kind of man. He is pressing forward regardless of what others say or think or do. We need that kind of man in the White House.

    If he makes it on the ballot, he'll get my vote.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Nov. 27, 2011 3:10 p.m.

    Out of a field of losers, Cain is by far the worst.

    But wait. There's Michelle. Okay, she's the worst.

    Oh, no. There's Perry. Revise all that.

    What's that noise? Nothing. Romney just flipped again.

    That's it! I just figured it out!

    The Republican campaign is a race to the bottom.

    Tag! You're it!

  • mark Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 27, 2011 4:24 p.m.

    Richards, BASIC was created at Dartmouth College by John Kemeny and Thomas Kurtz in 1964 (those darn elite tenured college professors).

    What money of his own did Cain put into his ventures? After college he worked as a civilian analyst for the U.S. Navy (oh my gosh, he worked for the dreaded government). Then he worked for Coke and after that Pillsbury who made him president of their subsidiary Godfathers Pizza. He was hired by others. None of his own money was used in these jobs.

    He was involved in a leveraged (leveraged means to use borrowed money) buyout of Godfathers in 1988 with a team of senior management investors. I cant tell you how much of his own money was in this deal (if any) and neither can you. But we do know that the investment team used large amounts of debt to purchase the company, and we can imagine Cain would have been insulated from this debt (the debt would be on the company, not Cain), and receive a healthy salary for running the company, as well as most likely, bonuses.

  • mark Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 27, 2011 4:25 p.m.

    And good for him, he used the system to make money, and a lot of it. He was born poor and became rich through hard work and education. But dont try to lionize him as a great entrepreneur, he never created a company from the ground up, and he only ran companies that others had created, usually as an employee.

    But, yeah, he was part owner and CEO of Godfathers Pizza for a few years after Pillsbury offered it to him.

    Nonetheless, sales at Godfathers Pizza dropped 41% (adjusted for inflation) while he was CEO.

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    Nov. 27, 2011 5:12 p.m.

    Mark,

    Bill Gates created BASIC for the Altair and many of the micro-computers that followed.

    Mr. Cain saw the possibilities that were open to him and he used those opportunities. He didn't join some OWS group that did nothing but complain. He took the opportunities that were available to him.

    Yes, sales dropped when people were not willing to buy a premium product when other loss-cost, low-class products were offered.

    If you want low-class, then you'll have to look at other parties. Mr. Cain is top-notch, top-tier; but, you, a democrat, would never accept Mr. Cain no matter what he had to offer.

  • Screwdriver Casa Grande, AZ
    Nov. 27, 2011 5:13 p.m.

    "Yes we Cain", oh boy...

    But I sincerely hope he is the republican candidate, and I mean that in a completly sarcastic and undercutting way that assures 4 more years of "Yes we can".

    Accomplishments of Obama:

    Some healthcare reform - a start and farther than anyone elese has come.

    Bringing troops home from Iraq.

    Got Osama BinLaden

    Saved "government motors" that now still employs hundreds of thousands including the supply chain.

    Ended don't ask don't tell that will hopefully lead to the military getting some stinking shower curtains.

    He's made all the racists faces in the country turn bright red.

    He stopped that leak in the gulf as republicans demanded at the time.

    No more attacks in america.

    Has regulated the banks at least slightly more than before.

    I'm sire there's more.

  • mark Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 27, 2011 6:07 p.m.

    What makes you think I am a Democrat Richards? And why would you ever presume to tell me what I would, or would not, accept?

    But no, I do not see what Herman Cain has to offer as a presidential candidate. He is absolutely clueless on foreign policy; he has presented an unworkable tax plan; and I think he handled the harassment scandal terribly, lying and obfuscating his way through it.

    I already gave credit to Cain for grabbing hold of opportunities.

    But why do you feel a need to just knee-jerk an attack on the occupy wall street movement? No one was talking about them. And anyway, many, if not most, of the people that are involved in that movement, or support it, are hard working Americans.

    You are really saying Godfathers Pizza is a premium product? Okay, to each his own.

    Sure Gates wrote a BASIC interpreter for Altair. But that is not what you originally claimed.

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    Nov. 27, 2011 6:50 p.m.

    Mark,

    Let's face it, you have no intention of having a discussion; you just want to make your points.

    You are not a Democrat? Then tell us what party someone with your views belongs to.

    Your opinion that Mr. Cain has no clue on foreign policy. What is Mr. Obama's view on foreign policy?

    An unworkable tax plan? What is YOUR tax plan? What is Mr. Obama's tax plan? How is it better than Mr. Cain's?

    The Chicago sex scandal? Before passing judgment, please show us a conviction of any wrong-doing.

    Knee-jerk reaction to OWS? Do YOU support those whiners?

    If you prefer "Little Caesars" over "Godfathers", then you have my condolences.

    I stated that Bill Gates wrote BASIC. YOU inferred that he wrote the original BASIC. I never stated that. YOU inferred that. Anyone who knows the history of computers knows that you're picking nits.

    Now that we've got those points behind us, why not tell us why Mr. Cain is NOT better than Mr. Obama?

  • mark Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 27, 2011 11:29 p.m.

    You're kidding. Right?

  • Rand FLAGSTAFF, AZ
    Nov. 28, 2011 5:20 a.m.

    "Dreaming of success in corporate America (he wanted to be president of "something ... somewhere," he writes)"

    Wow, what a firm, ethical visionary! Doesn't matter what the company I run does, as long as that paycheck is fat.

    "If you don't have a job and you are not rich, blame yourself."

    I guess he won't be campaigning on how Obama destroyed the economy, then. Because apparently the economy is fine.

    "Cain has flatly denied wrongdoing, calling the (sexual harassment) accusations a smear campaign."

    Then the restaurant association he chaired at the time sure wasted a bunch of money on those settlements, didn't it?

  • awsomeron Waianae, HI
    Nov. 28, 2011 1:26 p.m.

    The Whole thing is a huge Non Issue.