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BYU basketball: Scoring sprees spark Cougars to 39-point victory

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  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Nov. 22, 2011 10:29 p.m.

    @uthoops - you're right, we are having quite a season. And we didn't lose to Adams State.

    Hartsock and Abouo are solid and consistent.

    Davies is a little bit streaker, but he will average a double, double by year end.

    Winder is the PG or backup depending on Carlino.

    I don't understand why Zylstra is starting over Rogers. Rogers is the leading scorer in 12 minutes of play? Play Rogers for 30 minutes a game and his point total will look like Fredette.

    Harrison has the most potential on the team.

    Austin and Sharp are very good backups, especially considering they are Freshmen.

  • BlueCoug Orem, UT
    Nov. 22, 2011 10:34 p.m.

    Congratulations Cougars!

    More and more BYU is developing the teamwork that will carry them to another great season. Rogers had a great night scoring a career high 18 coming off the bench, but the most impressive things about this game was seeing BYU push the ball up the floor, crisp ball movement, draining 3's, and having 4 players scoring in double figures.

    The zone defense was very effective, except for giving up too many offensive rebounds. Gotta work on boxing out.

    Nevada will be a good game to hone their skills a little more before a possible matchup against one of their biggest tests this season, Wisconsin.

    Good luck in Chicago Cougars!

  • Honor Code Denver, Colorado
    Nov. 23, 2011 6:02 a.m.

    Great job Cougars, you're continue to pound these PEE WEE teams you schedule. Can't wait til you're back in the NCAA Tournament Bracket in 20 years from now!

  • Doug10 Roosevelt, UT
    Nov. 23, 2011 7:26 a.m.

    Did the COugars manage to get Payson high school on their schedule this year?

  • hornetfan declo, id
    Nov. 23, 2011 7:37 a.m.

    I am so impressed that someone gets up at 6:02 a.m. just to post an anti-BYU remark.

    Great win. Have to play'em as they come.

  • jdub Ephraim, UT
    Nov. 23, 2011 7:39 a.m.

    H.C.

    That's right, the Y does pound the pee wee teams. However, your team apparently is the pee wee team for other schedules.

  • QD Murray, UT
    Nov. 23, 2011 8:03 a.m.

    As a Crimson Club member I wish my team could pound the Pee Wee Teams too. I wish we coud pound anyone. Can we schedule Payson High?

  • Vince the boonies, mexico
    Nov. 23, 2011 8:12 a.m.

    Scoring spree against what?

  • Veracity Morgan, UT
    Nov. 23, 2011 8:20 a.m.

    Doug10

    No, BYU was unable to get Payson on their schedule...in fact Payson and most of the 2A, 3A and some 4A schools have already booked with the University of Utah...so this could be a good season for Utah as they are projected to go 14 -11 with these schools.

  • Still Blue after all these years Kaysville, UT
    Nov. 23, 2011 8:24 a.m.

    Good wins, playing Winder is proving to be a very good decision. I still think we need more consistency game to game from everyone not named after an old testament prophet. We've got to go prove it on the road now and continue to get better every week. But this team has potential to win a conf title and one or two in the NCAA tournament.

    P.S. did anyone see that Mizzou beat Cal (Pac 12 favorite to win league) by 39? The WCC might be better than the Pac 12 in basketball.

  • Sandpiper Air Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 23, 2011 8:26 a.m.

    @QD Great post.

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    Nov. 23, 2011 8:42 a.m.

    Friday and Saturday should be good tests to see where BYU is really at. I don't think anyone would pick them to beat Wisconsin but if they can beat Nevada on Friday and play Wisconsin well, that would be a very good weekend for a team that is 50% Freshmen.

    I won't say much to the Ute fans trying to talk smack here other than losing to Adams State and Montana State should be enough to keep them away for now. I remember Roger Reids last year at BYU so I won't say anything more other than I hope Utah can come together and win some games.

  • PAC man Anaheim, CA
    Nov. 23, 2011 9:02 a.m.

    To the uninformed kids on the hill:

    BYU didn't schedule Longwood or Prairie View A&M; they're simply the first two opponents in the Chicago Invitational Challenge which will continue in the Sears Centre in Chicago against Nevada on Friday, with the winner of that game likely playing #11 Wisconsin for the tournament championship.

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    Nice job Cougars - five players in double figures and 20 assists on 41 made baskets. This is going to be a very fun team to watch as they develop into a very good team by the time conference games begin.

  • dalefarr South Jordan, Utah
    Nov. 23, 2011 9:21 a.m.

    I don't care.

  • Veracity Morgan, UT
    Nov. 23, 2011 9:23 a.m.

    I can not beleive that Ute followers are knocking the BYU basketball team knowing what Utah is putting on an empty Huntsman Center basketball court...really?

  • Veracity Morgan, UT
    Nov. 23, 2011 9:52 a.m.

    dalefarr

    Don't read the article, don't go on the comment board and don't comment if you don't care...me thinks you care but are discouraged with your schools performance...but then, I don't care.

  • Pugman TREMONTON, UT
    Nov. 23, 2011 11:44 a.m.

    Ute trolls, commenting on BYU boards. And talking about basketball none the less. A Ute mocking BYU's schedule.....My gosh, pay attention there Jethro, and get the car key outta your ear. You've already lost to 2 division 2 schools. But of course I've missed the point,,,,we're from the mighty Pac 10, everyone we schedule is a force to be reckoned with, BYU being the exception...anyone can beat them. As a matter of fact we're so superior we no longer play the Aggies.....we are now consumed with The Adams Family...er,er,um, I mean Adams State

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 23, 2011 3:00 p.m.

    @still blue after all these years
    "P.S. did anyone see that Mizzou beat Cal (Pac 12 favorite to win league) by 39? The WCC might be better than the Pac 12 in basketball. "

    The WCC is not better than the PAC-12. The Sagarin rankings have the Pac-12 7th for conferences (behind all the football AQ divisions, and the Atlantic-10) and the WCC 12th (behind the 7 noted, also Missouri Valley, Mountain West, Conference USA, and Horizon).

    Pac-12 schools
    21. California 23. Washington 34. Washington State 36. Arizona 55. Stanford 80.Oregon 82.Oregon State 119.Colorado 174.USC 195.UCLA 208.Arizona State 239.Utah

    WCC schools
    12. Saint Mary's 17. Gonzaga 77. BYU 129. Portland 154. Santa Clara 164. San Francisco 206. Loyola Marymount 254. Pepperdine 272. San Diego

    The Sagarin rankings use a central mean to generate conference rank so it's the middle schools in each conference that weight the most. Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, and Colorado are just ranked higher than Portland, Santa Clara, and San Francisco so it's the Pac-12's depth that makes it the superior conference.

  • AZ Dave Chandler, AZ
    Nov. 23, 2011 3:28 p.m.

    Can't wait to invade the Jenny Craig Arena Big Time

  • Truth Machine Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 23, 2011 3:36 p.m.

    atl134

    If you're going to cite Sagarin ratings, you need to look a little closer at the details:

    #7 PAC12 - central mean 78.93, simple average 78.47
    #12 WCC - central mean 75.55, simple average 76.05

    The Top 2 teams in the WCC are ranked higher

    #12 Saint Mary's and #17 Gonzaga

    than the Top 2 teams in the PAC12

    #21 California and #23 Washington

    but your most glaring omissions

    #77 BYU
    #100 Utah State
    #111 Weber State
    #222 Utah Valley
    #239 Utah
    #271 So Utah

    Congratulations, Utah is still ahead of So Utah

    btw, according to Sagarin, Utah hasn't officially won a game yet; sorry, U will have to do better than beating an NAIA team by 3 points to put a W in the W/L column

  • LonestarRunner Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 23, 2011 3:46 p.m.

    CougFaninTX

    "I don't understand why Zylstra is starting over Rogers. Rogers is the leading scorer in 12 minutes of play? Play Rogers for 30 minutes a game and his point total will look like Fredette."

    Zylstra is starting over Rogers because Coach Rose wants to have a high scorer coming off the bench.

    Winder is looking very good; he still has a lot to learn about BYU's offense, but he's got talent, and he and Harrison are going to be another dynamic duo before they finish they're careers at BYU. With Carlina joining the team in mid-December and Cusick's toughness, BYU is going to have a very deep and talented group of point guards.

  • riddlemethis Clearfield, UT
    Nov. 23, 2011 3:50 p.m.

    Guys:

    Honor Code and Doug 10 are USU fans not Utah fans.

  • Riddles in the Dark Olympus Cove, Utah
    Nov. 23, 2011 3:53 p.m.

    atl134

    Reduced to using conference smack?

    For a Utah basketball fan, that's just plain sad.

  • Farid @ Pocatello Pocatello, ID
    Nov. 23, 2011 4:20 p.m.

    It is very hard to get a feel for how good a team is going to be when it has so many freshman & inexperienced returning players.

    Thus far, I am very impressed with DeMarcus Harrison & Anson Winder. Winder has a beautiful shot -- did anyone else see his turnaround 3-point jump shot last night?

    And wow, has Stephen Rogers improved or what? He looked over-matched at times last season but I think he's capable of scoring 15 points a game with 8 boards.

    And then everyone returns next year and Tyler Haws returns from his mission (I don't think any of these frosh have missions planned).

  • PerfectCougar Payson, UTAH
    Nov. 24, 2011 7:37 p.m.

    I looked up sagarinand BYU is 75, not 129. Clearly they were lowered after winning on Tuesday.

  • PerfectCougar Payson, UTAH
    Nov. 24, 2011 7:43 p.m.

    Everyone needs to get off of UTAH's case and let them regroup. It is just wrong the way they are being peppered when they are so far down.

    The so-called Ute fans should keep the comments about everyone positive when their team is hurting so bad and not draw negative attention to themselves. It is just plain sad to see these commentors saying things that will bring negative attention to the poor performance of their PAC 12 team.

    I love the Pac 8 that has grown to be the PAC 12. UTAH and all of us who live here should be proud that they are in that conference. Now let us help encourage them to improve the team to compete in a way that brings honor to the state.

    This was a once proud squad and will be again. I look forward to that day and will encourage as much as possible. May BYU and UTAH beat them all and when they play each other, may the games be epoch again.

  • PerfectCougar Payson, UTAH
    Nov. 24, 2011 7:59 p.m.

    BYU is going to be much better than expected based on the quality of the young players in the backcourt and the transfer student Matt Carlino coming on to the court in December against Baylor.

    I am really pleased and impressed with Anson Windor. I watched him last year on the bench as he watched Jimmer and Jckson play. I worried that he would be timid. Boy was I wrong. He has great skills, he knows it and he is ready to show what he can do, without being over-anxious.

    Our frontcourt has strong upper classmen, but has great depth with freshmen that can play.

    Other schools seem to find freshman that can come in and make strong contributions their first year. BYU can now claim the same thing in these young men - Anson Windor, Matt Carlino, Demarcus Harrision, Nate Austin, Josh Sharp, Austin Nelson.

    WOW!

  • PerfectCougar Payson, UTAH
    Nov. 24, 2011 8:05 p.m.

    Davies is the most athletic big man I can remember. He has filled out and is getting the ball in better position low to the basket than before. His moves are amazing. He has matured so much as a low post player and his confidence is clearly showing. Now I see him learning more discretion to determine how best to use his talents against the defenses. Teams are really afraid of him and rightly so. Throwing three men on him in one game was a suprise and a great sign of respect. He tried to push through them and would have been better served by accepting the defense and working to get the ball to the open man much sooner. He will learn this and he must as more teams will double and triple team him - he deserves it.