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  • RinAZ Mesa, AZ
    Nov. 19, 2011 8:23 p.m.

    I am LDS and a member of the Tea Party where I live. I am for Ron Paul as he is the only one who understands the Constitution and Liberty. I don't get why so many LDS are for Romney? Is it just because he is also LDS? That is a ridiculous reason to be for Romney. He doesn't understand the Constitution or he would not have said and done some of the things he has said and done. None of the other candidates are right for us either.

  • YouthforEagar MONROE, UT
    Nov. 19, 2011 8:46 p.m.

    Do you want to beat Obama?

  • Bebyebe UUU, UT
    Nov. 19, 2011 8:59 p.m.

    Yes, LDS vote for him 'cause he's LDS. Just like they vote for Hatch. Romney is nothing but a flip-flopper. He was a liberal to get elected to MA and he will talk the conservative talk to get elected president. Who knows what he'll be then? It's anyone's guess. He isn't the one mighty and strong.

  • ThinksIThink SEATTLE, WA
    Nov. 19, 2011 9:15 p.m.

    Romney was either dishonest in 2002 when he stated his political positions or he is being dishonest now. Either way, I can't support another dishonest politician - even if he is LDS. I'd rather vote for Obama (against my political positions), than vote for someone I believe is dishonest but is claiming to represent my political positions. I place a higher value on honesty!

  • Georgie Baby Denver, CO
    Nov. 19, 2011 9:37 p.m.

    I can't wait to see the piece that has the headline:

    "Conservatives remain wary of Tea Partiers"

  • TR 4 President SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Nov. 19, 2011 9:43 p.m.

    In the end, the Tea Party will vote against Obama, even if they have to stomach voting for Romney. And maybe being seen as at odds with the Tea Party will be a good thing for trying to get votes from non-Republicans.

  • Gandalf Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 19, 2011 9:46 p.m.

    I am active LDS and find Mitt Romney to be about as phony as they come. He reminds me of the old skit by Groucho Marx where he plays a politician speaking to a constituent and proclaims loudly: "those are my principles and if you don't like them . . . well, let me give you some other ones." Mitt Romney will say anything he thinks he needs to say to get a vote. Some would claim that's just how politicians are. I'd agree to some degree. But Mittens takes it to a whole 'nother level. And it is very distasteful.

    Having said that, the Tea Party is clearly not the answer for this country's needs. Superficial, self-absorbed, unwilling to step up and put anything of value on the altar: that's the Tea Party. Prove me wrong Tea Partiers. Identify one benefit you personally receive from federal, state or local government that you are willing to give up in the name of deficit reduction. I've made this challenge many times. Crickets is all I hear in response. I have no respect for the political judgment or selflessness of anyone who affiliates with the Tea Party.

  • durwood kirby South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 19, 2011 9:58 p.m.

    To say that the Tea Party has a purer understanding of the Constitution of the United States truly worries me, both as an LDS person and as a citizen. It is because of the Tea Party mentality that I can no longer vote for any Republican without a clear indication that the candidate will be more committed to problem solving than ideology.

  • The Taxman Los Angeles, CA
    Nov. 19, 2011 10:06 p.m.

    It looks like the Tea Partiers have some common sense after all.

  • Screwdriver Casa Grande, AZ
    Nov. 19, 2011 10:08 p.m.

    Romney was pro choice, pro medical insurance mandates and never served in the military. Perfect for the long time republican tradition of hypocracy. He's your man.

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Nov. 19, 2011 10:09 p.m.

    @ThinksIThink:

    If you actually believe Obama is the poster boy for honesty, then I have a bridge in Tacna Arizona I would like to sell you.

  • FDRfan safety dictates, ID
    Nov. 19, 2011 10:16 p.m.

    "Mitt Romney can be tea party one minute, and the next minute introduce Romneycare," the Massachusetts health care plan Romney pushed as governor.

    What is the sin against the tea party here? Having compassion for the sick and injured? Recognizing that the tax payers were paying for emergency care via Medicaid? The tea partiers have demonstrated clearly that they will self righteously, ignore and pass by any wounded traveler on the road to Jericho. Any move to appease this group will definitely lose my vote. They brag about bringing down any compassionate conservative and may do so again but who has the most to lose?

  • Mark B Eureka, CA
    Nov. 19, 2011 10:34 p.m.

    I understand the desire to try to keep as many friends at as many points on the political spectrum as possible. But man, Mitt even makes Cain and Newt look like straight shooters, which they aren't. It's a little like "What do my people want to hear today? I need to LEAD them."

  • Roland Kayser Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Nov. 19, 2011 10:40 p.m.

    You can fairly criticize Romney for flip-flopping, but Gingritch is far worse. He was all for reforming end-of-life care until Obama proposed it, then he was one of the first on the "death panels" bandwagon.

    He supported the individual mandate for health insurance for many years, again until Obama proposed it. Then he called it socialism, communism, etc,

    He said global warming was a serious problem that we needed to address. He supported cap and trade policies. Again, when Obama proposed it, it became cap and tax.

    The list could go on and on.

  • Article-Reader Spanish Fork, UT
    Nov. 19, 2011 11:01 p.m.

    I don't understand what the big deal is with Romneycare. Yeah, Obamacare was modeled after it, but the reason we hate Obamacare is because the Federal Government has no rights given to it in the Constitution to mandate everyone purchase something. The Federal Government can not make us buy insurance. However, individual states can mandate. Utah mandates we buy auto insurance, no one's griping about that. Romneycare is a health care plan in Massachusetts, it is not a federal plan. Romney signed the bill into law, but the bill was written by the Dems in the Mass St Leg. Romney opponents are quick to try to nail him with it, but the major difference between Romneycare and Obamacare is that Romneycare is within constitutional rights, Obamacare is not.

  • Brad Peterson South Ogden, UT
    Nov. 19, 2011 11:03 p.m.

    I just don't see how the Tea Party can claim to be the enlightening wing of the Republican Party, when they go from supporting Bachmann to Perry to Cain to Gingrich in just a few months. Really guys? Either you are enlightened, or you are clueless to what presidential candidates stand for and how the elections work. I'm thinking it's the latter.

  • RinAZ Mesa, AZ
    Nov. 19, 2011 11:10 p.m.

    To durwood kirby:

    I didn't say that all Tea Party people understand the Constitution nor do they all understand what Liberty is truly all about. They want smaller government and better fiscal policies. It is people that have joined the Tea Party that have studied it and bring that knowledge to the Tea Party. We spend one meeting a month trying to teach people in the Tea Party about the Constitution and some get it and some don't. I could list my reasons for not liking the other candidates but DN would probably not post my comments.

    The time will come when the government of these United States will be so nearly overthrown through its corruption, that the Constitution will hang as it were by a single hair, and the Latter-day Saintsthe Elders of Israelwill step forward to its rescue and save it............. The Prophet Joseph Smith
    The Elders in the Church can't do this because they don't understand it.

  • Winglish Lehi, UT
    Nov. 19, 2011 11:20 p.m.

    The Tea Party is the single biggest threat to America today.

  • Wildcat O-town, UT
    Nov. 19, 2011 11:37 p.m.

    @Winglish

    I totally agree with you. The Tea Party is selfish, hate-filled, and anti-government, but other than that they are alright.

  • Theeng2 Holladay, UT
    Nov. 19, 2011 11:47 p.m.

    Politicians unfortunately have to represent their party's agenda almost exactly to get nominated. When was the last time a pro choice republican became president? To get elected you can't be in the middle. You either have to be extreme right or left, but the truth is no one is ever totally right or left, even if they pretend to be.

  • David King Layton, UT
    Nov. 19, 2011 11:58 p.m.

    @Winglish "The Tea Party is the single biggest threat to America today."

    That, or hyperbole.

  • Castlepath South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 12:11 a.m.

    The tea party is made up of a lot of Evangelical Christians who don't like Mitt Romney's religion, and in order to avoid looking like religious bigots, they turn to his politics claiming he's not conservative enough. THERE WILL NEVER BE ANYONE CONSERVATIVE ENOUGH FOR THE TEA PARTY. And even if there were, we don't have forever to wait until that person shows up on stage. Our nation needs help...NOW.
    The tea party has been on the Perry train, the Cain train, now they're with Gingrich. Talk about avoiding the obvious.... Mitt Romney, the one person of all the republican candidates who is actually fit to be President, and could beat Obama. At the end of the day, it is the independents who will decide the election, and a lot of them like Mitt Romney.

  • teleste Provo, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 1:48 a.m.

    @ThinksIThink

    Ronald Reagan was a Democrat at one point...don't forget it.

    Is Romney a dishonest flip-flopper?

    Perhaps, but no more than any other politician in this race...and Romney is head and shoulders better than all the rest of them except maybe Ron Paul.

  • AmPatriot Taylorsville, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 4:36 a.m.

    I think there is hope for america yet as people are being more selective and astute to the history of all these candidates like Romney, Huntsman, and Perry to name a few, who are anti american, anti labor, anti prosperity, and anti constitution and pro business profiteering and indentured servitude.

    Don't understand the correlation of the tea party as republican becasue the tea party is anyone who believes in integrity, values, honesty, open government, and our constitution. There are many Democrat's and independents who believe in the values of the tea party so they are a non partisan idea, they are an american ideal all of us want from a leader.

    The Republican party is a party of socialism, pro Obama-care, pro tax increase, pro government control. They are a party to suppress individual prosperity and promote socialism, its ingrained in their souls. Individual prosperity is a democracy with individual rights to choose who and what they want to be. Republicans don't want prosperity for individuals who are too independent and intellectual.

    In my selection of presidents are Ron Paul or Donald Trump, the only Americans with a spine and willingness to stomp on Obama.

  • freewill duchesne, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 6:37 a.m.

    sounds like Kelly will vote for the lesser of two evils. Ron Paul is the reason for the tea party and the socialists took it. Obama, Romney, Whats the difference? Talk is cheap, If anyone thinks there was a diference between Bush and obama must be asleep.

  • Anti Bush-Obama Washington, DC
    Nov. 20, 2011 6:59 a.m.

    I think the Tea Party and OWS have everything in common when it comes down to it. Both groups want to end the fed. Both groups want to limit government, at least the more rational OWS protestors that I have marched with. Both groups know our government is the enemy. They enable wallstreet and they take a lot of bribes from wallstreet.

    Romney has recieved more wallstreet money than any other GOP candidate combined. So he is clearly who the evil establishment wants you to vote for.

    Lets just forget Ron Paul who's foreign policy is so "bad" that he has recieved the most military contributions than any other candidate combined.

  • BleedRed Sandy, Utah
    Nov. 20, 2011 7:07 a.m.

    Anyone but Obama

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 7:17 a.m.

    The tea party should be wary. I have no clue what Romney really believes in. I don't think he stands for anything except what the audience in front of him at the moment seems to want.

    And looking at the rest of the GOP field, all I can say is "Go, President Obama!"

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Nov. 20, 2011 7:37 a.m.

    "The Tea Party is the single biggest threat to America today."

    No, Wildcat, Obama is the single biggest threat to America today - along with the "occupy Wall Street" crowd.

  • A1994 Centerville, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 8:04 a.m.

    @Winglish and Wildcat

    Get serious. Just because you don't agree with someone's political point of view, you label them extreme? It wasn't the Tea Party getting arrested for drugs, rape, and violence in their protests.

    The Tea Party is the single biggest threat to lazy, free-loading Americans.

  • NeilT Clearfield, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 8:12 a.m.

    Help me to understand. Romney graduated from Harvard with degrees in law and business however according to the tea pary he doesn't understand the constitution. I am supporting Romney. I could care less what the tea party thinks. OWS is more popular with the public than the tea party. The tea party is opposed to everything that has to do with government. Michelle Bachman wants to dismantle the EPA. Bad Idea. And if you aren't fortunate to have employment with health insurance, to bad, you must be lacking in personal responsibility.

  • Fred44 Salt Lake City, Utah
    Nov. 20, 2011 8:15 a.m.

    The Tea Party is a group of middle class Americans blindly following a group of rich elitists who are using these basically good conservative people to push an agenda that is really not good for the average member of the Tea Party. Grover Nordquist is the most dangerous man in America today. The problems that this country faces cannot and will not be solved until we restructure entitlements that is a given, but to ignore the restructuring of our tax codes and eliminate loopholes for the wealthy is equally as important as entitlement reforms. We must also change our tariff system so that it is no longer profitable for American businesses to move their production of goods to third world countries that don't have worker protection and child labor laws. Tax these goods that come back at a high high rate and make it unprofitable to move companies of our shores. The solution is a three pronged approach the problem is that the Tea Party can only see one third of the problem. Get away from Grover Nordquist and do what is best for the country not what is best for the wealthy.

  • morpunkt Glendora, CA
    Nov. 20, 2011 8:38 a.m.

    I like to hear both sides of the news. Sometimes you hear things that don't get mentioned by the "other guys". One, for instance, is that it has been confirmed that the Tea Party is comprised of >80% Evangelicals. Do the math, people.
    I firmly believe that in order to achieve legitimacy, the anybody-but-the-Mormon crowd veils themselves behind this group.
    Do the math.

  • peter Alpine, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 9:24 a.m.

    Maybe I misunderstand the Tea Party as being anti-big-government, not anti- government.

    To RinAZ: Brigham Young was paraphrasing Joseph Smith re: the near ruin of the Constitution. Brigham Young continues, at that time, both the elders of the Church and the leaders of other faiths who have done their homework re: the Constitution will form a council of "wise men", and THEY will be the staff upon which the nation shall lean and THEY will bear the Constitution away from the very verge of destruction.

  • A1994 Centerville, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 9:25 a.m.

    @teleste

    Excellent point. Ronald Reagan was an FDR Democrat. He also raised social security taxes. He also signed amnesty for several million illegal immigrants. Reagan even once signed a law allowing abortions when he was Governor of California. (He said he regretted it later.)

    The point is that the Tea Party would love to have another Ronald Reagan. He changed with age. A lot of people do. At this point, Mitt Romney is the best option the country has. Obama is incompetent (he now has a record and can't run on hope and change anymore.) None of the other GOP candidates have what it's going to take to get us out of this mess.

  • Howard Beal Provo, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 9:52 a.m.

    Gov. Christie gave the Republicans, specifically the tea partiers, a warning-underestimate Obama at your own peril. Between those lines that means nominate Romney because if you nominate these tea party candidates that spells trouble...

  • Howard Beal Provo, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 10:03 a.m.

    I would have more problems with Romney on his abortion stance changes than Romney Care but to me both are of little consequence. Let me explain.

    Unless the Supreme Court changes itself the President has little direct impact. I think Romney would likely nominate a pro-life justice anyway. There is no concern here.

    On RomneyCare. Who cares? His "flip-flop" on the issue is understandable. Can we try ideas in governance and they don't work? In fact, I'm glad he tried it just in case it actually worked. Now we know it doesn't. So again it's a non-issue because we have to analyze what he would actually do as President and it seems like doing our current health care plan isn't the solution. I trust that he actually learned from this.

    One reason I prefer Romney and Huntsman and even Perry over other candidates quite honestly, is that they have experience as Chief Executives of a state. This means they understand the realities and complexities of the office. Any member in Congress can be strident because the office doesn't require anything else, but in real life compromise and listening to others is essential to being President.

  • Free Man Provo, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 10:55 a.m.

    Like pretty much every politician from any party, they say and do whatever will get them elected (for which corporation owns them). For Romney in MA, it resulted in an actually quite good public health care program that is very nearly the same as that of President Obama. It also resulted in same sex unions, and other "liberal" (though I would use another term) plans. Now, he suddenly has become an ultra-conservative. Wake up folks! You are being duped by one who is the progeny of Wall Street, and has every interest in protecting his own $millions, as well as those in the upper 1% crust. Balance in government is needed, but this is NOT the person that is going to make that happen - Mormon or not. (Oh, by the way, Bush plunged the country into $11 Trillion dollars of borrowed debt before Obama took office, so quit trashing him on that score. Unfortunately, Obama has been quite incapable of galvanizing any sort of recovery plan from the disaster he inherited, and because of Wall Street Banking maneuvers it has only gotten worse). God help us survive these times!

  • KM Cedar Hills, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 11:15 a.m.

    RinAZ

    We LDS folk are for Romney for the same reason we are for Harry Reid, becuase he's a member of the church. Wait! I mean, I didn't mean that.
    Seriously, a common sense person would, as the article states, vote for anybody but Obama, because they feel "he's destroying the country."
    Now Romney and Gingrich have both bought in somewhat on the marxist scam of global warming, a scam to redistribute the wealth of the working class to the dependent class for a vote and to turn the world to chaos. Which is what is happening with the Wall Street Protesters.

  • windsor City, Ut
    Nov. 20, 2011 12:22 p.m.

    From the article:
    "He sprinkles tea party language into his stump speeches. He's wooed tea party lawmakers and organizers in private meetings. He has appeared before tea party audiences and offered an economic package with tea party-friendly elements"

    I find it interesting (and sadly humorous)that Teas Partiers don't see he is doing to them the very SAME thing he had to do to Democrats and others to be elected Governor of Massachusetts.

  • CJ Murray, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 1:15 p.m.

    The skepticism and fear of Romney is similar to that expressed over JFK being a Catholic. With Kennedy they were worried about the Pope calling him in and telling him what to do, the perception is the same about Romney and the LDS church. The perception, whether right or wrong, is that the church would control the government. Let us all hope that the national media don't pick up on the facts surrounding the passage of the UTAH CON PACT and the notorious HB116 wherein legislators were called in by the church and told to vote for the passage of the bill (several have now admitted that is they voted for it) in spite of the fact that the majority of Utahns are against it. This could cut Romney off at the knees.

  • Richie Saint George, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 1:47 p.m.

    Do you want Obama or Romney? That should be a simple question and if the answer is Obama, goodby USA.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 2:41 p.m.

    Tea-party proponents have a couple of items they are very good at in proposing. However, politics and government, which comes after politics play, require more items on their radar screen to be an effective government. You elect individuals and they are then responsible for assisint in the making of laws and carrying out or overseeing those laws. That is a hard part that even full-time long term political parties have a problem with. They work for year in a process and our Constitutional process of Senators with a 6-year term, Representatives with their 2-year term, and President with 4-year term gives balance that has worked pretty well for 200 plus years. We can go to the polls and participate in the legislative and give input for our executive branches in States and National processes. After living in various countries that have somewhat of a similar process, the executive office and military provide imbalance, riots and Coup d'├ętat. Sometimes the legislative branch concedes to the executive, military and/or both. We have a Supreme Court that gives us the rule of law and that is a blessing for our country at Thanksgiving time.

  • Aggielove Junction city, Oregon
    Nov. 20, 2011 3:09 p.m.

    Ask yourself this. Do you truly believe any canidate is in it to truly help his country? If you believe your man is that person, vote for them.

    P.s. Have fun finding that person.

  • morganh Orem, Utah
    Nov. 20, 2011 3:51 p.m.

    The Tea Party wants the U.S. to get its fiscal house in order. They were in favor of the failed balance budget amendment. Obama wants more gov't control from "Obamacare" as well as a blank check to spend with no stipulations. His administration also opposed a balanced budget amendment because it limits his spending power. He has support from anti-capitalists such as Michael Moore and George Soros as well as Bill Ayers the un-repentant terrorist and his "Change Campaign" is strait out of the radical Saul Alinsky's hand book. Comparing the two I see the latter as the biggest threat to America.

  • bluejean Farmington, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 6:39 p.m.

    Talk about flip flopping, the tea party flips and flops from candidate to candidate not unlike a spoiled child running wild in a candy store. If they can't get over their paranoid bigotry about Mormons and realize that some compromise is needed, they will surely lose again to the Obama machine. They no doubt will not see it that way.

    At this point, nit-picking over minutia and digging heals in the sand will not ensure a better America. America needs someone capable of seeing both sides and creating common ground (unlike our current stubborn congress and obstinate president). The Tea Party though well intended really can't have it all, as one candidate thinks. They just don't have the numbers yet. Maybe they can achieve some balance in the VP candidate.

    Compromise needs to be in the nominee's vocabulary or we will be forced to deal with the unthinkable...Obama for four more years!

    Romney is an excellent candidate, a good man and will defeat Obama.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 7:43 p.m.

    One thing about the current President, he appears to use the financial process and healthcare to keep people thinking or worrying about the loss of personal investment money and their health insurance to work on undermining other issues that are actually more important, such as diplomacy, national defense, integrity, concern for others, historical accuracy, elementary education, higher education, Constitutional issues, and just commonsense issues. Politics isn't just one issue and our President needs to be a person that has high standards and not a Hollywood type that is popular today with one group. He has to be solid in basic beliefs that our country was founded and not changing to the wind direction that can be easily attacked due to a weak side. Groups are trying to use these "Debates" and primaries to pick off their top people who will hopefully be unified in their efforts to lead our country's ideals and our Founding Father's beliefs and standards into the distant future. Pray for peace and understanding for each other. After living in Asia, Europe, Central and South America for almost 10 years, and visiting over two dozen countries, I know we are blessed in the best country ever.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 8:30 p.m.

    @ Richie | 1:47 p.m. Nov. 20, 2011, "goodby USA"? Way over the top, dude.

  • coleman51 Orem, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 8:51 p.m.

    When William Buckley introduced conservative politics to the mainstream Republican Party, he had to weed out the supporters of the John Birch Society. There are definitely extreme elements in the tea party today as well. I am not so sure that the reluctance of the tea party toward Mitt Romney is because of his politics (which would be even more conservative than Ronald Reagan), but more because of his religion. Just as the John Birch Society was a bigoted group of extremists, so are elements of the tea party today.

  • AST Orangeville, UT
    Nov. 20, 2011 11:27 p.m.

    The other day I looked at the stuff being said about Mitt Romney on the internet. The bile starts with a few radicals and spreads like a rumor. It includes charges that he's pro-abortion, pro-same-sex marriage, anti-Boy Scouts, a big spender and that his promises to help repeal Obamacare are all lies. Of course, many of religious conservatives would say that he's not a Christian, because of the concerted effort over recent decades by evangelicals to inculcate that idea about the LDS faith. In this strange milieu, his high achievements in education and work as a business consultant and entrepreneur, not to mention his experience as a governor, are considered black marks in their paranoid worldview.

    The tea party was a spontaneous grass roots movement that included many independents and swing voters, but it is rapidly losing popularity because of the radicals who now claim to represent it. The movement itself hasn't produced one Presidential candidate capable of defeating Obama, and is now engaged in a frantic search for anybody but Romney. I'm really tired of their reflexive distrust of him, because they refuse to even listen to what he has to say.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Nov. 20, 2011 11:40 p.m.

    I love to see comments like " (blank) is a threat to America" from the tea party types. The real threat to America is this group whose core mantra is they think they can return American government back to the size it was pre 1900. This completely ignores the world in which we live which is a globally competitive. We are not competing against the mom and pop shop down the street anymore, but entire countries like China and India ( and soon Russia and Brazil). The world is a far different place.

    This weekend we did an analysis of the cost of letting the banks fail. For one case studies we looked at the cost if B of A been allowed to fail. The results were staggering. First year cost to the TAX PAYER and treasury ran to about 20.8 Billion dollars. This excludes the over 1 Trillion dollars in FDIC insurance the treasury would have had to come up with - by law.

    I am not a Romney support, but he gets this stuff, so I am not worried if he gets elected. The Tea Party scares me though, because they don't. We either compete, or get passed.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Nov. 21, 2011 8:32 a.m.

    The Tea Party is calling itself a party but has fragmented roots. Without a real organization, as a real party that is chartered and set up with a committee and by-laws and rules, it is not really a party. Some people have been elected to various offices, usually as Republicans, both in the Senate and House, but they are basically independents trying to work outside of the National Republican Party. This allows radicals or even people that are not Tea-Party people to get in "their system" and say they are part of their system. Tea-Party people do not have the Democratic Party basic beliefs, they are more Republican but don't agree with the Party leaders. They need to operate together with the Republicans and persuade them to change those differences. No party will have "ALL" the same beliefs but will generally have basic beliefs you can agree with. It is dangerous in this election, nationally to let the current Executive win another election. Our national values within and without are being undermined and eventually the Court will become those values that are undermined from our Founding Fathers. The Economy isn't the only sacred value up for Change

  • m.g. scott LAYTON, UT
    Nov. 23, 2011 8:23 a.m.

    I haven't read any of the above posts. All I can say to the T-Party is, if it is Romney then like it or not you have 3 choices. Vote Romney, vote 3rd party (which is like voting for Obama), or stay home. McCain was my last choice of the 5 running in 2008, but I still voted for him. The only important thing in this election is BEAT OBAMA.