Wow, the rebroadcast had almost as many viewers in the SLC market as the live
Utah-Pitt game. I guess that's not too surprising; BYU has always owned the SLC
market.Wonder what the Utes think about this factual data.
Many thanks to all that made this possible. Exemplary "customer
The PAC 12 asked if BYU really had an HD truck? Clearly they have never done
their homework on invitations. When they learn what they passed up on BYU
because they only hear "no sunday play". They are going to be kicking
themselves. The last thing BYU is, is a weight. Amazing how blind
bigotry can make you.
Independance will work for BYU as it has for Notre Dame. Their 2013 schedule is
remarkable and the strongest conference in the nation has no intention of going
"super". Stay independant Cougars the future is fantastic and while we
do have cup cakes on the schedule this year and next we are getting paid to play
From a media production value standpoint, BYU is a BCS champion and second to
none. Kudos fellas!
BYUtv, it's HD truck, and independence, doing what naysayers said couldn't be
done--work with Fox.Exposure is everything to BYU for its sports.
Money's secondary.Keep that in mind during BYU to Big 12 banter.
Glancing over the men's basketball schedule there are a few games not being
broadcast nationally: Utah and Utah State. Perhaps BYUtv could collaborate
with these local schools to get these games on the air outside of Utah. What
kind of a conference limits their teams exposure? If this is the case they need
some serious bad press, or BYU needs to stop scheduling them. Also, some of the
WCC road games are not being broadcast. What's up with that? BYUtv, please
continue your collaboration efforts to get these games on. Next challenge: HD
outside of the local broadcast area. Let's push to get BYUtv broadcast in HD on
all cable and satellite distributors. Thanks for your efforts!
Thank you to BYU to put together such facilities and people that can do such a
thing to pull off a minor miracle. I love watching BYU and I encourage all my
friends to watch it too.
I appreciate the hard work and dedication that everyone exhibited. Not getting
the live feed in Colorado was a disappointment, but after reading the article I
can see that getting that last part of the puzzle (BYU-TV) was not possible this
time around. I was glad for KSL radio on the internet for my free coverage.Keep up the good work and maybe, just maybe, in the future BYU-TV will
have total coverage. Love it.Now let's win the remaining four games
and have a 10-3 season.
Independence Is Bliss | 5:20 a.m. Nov. 6, 2011 San Jose, CA "Wow, the rebroadcast had almost as many viewers in the SLC market as the
live Utah-Pitt game. I guess that's not too surprising; BYU has always owned the
SLC market.Wonder what the Utes think about this factual
data."Here's what I think: BYU fans love to re-watch already
played games in which they won, particularly if it's against a team from a
percieved better conference. How many viewers caught the re-broadcast of the TCU
or Utah games?The Utah-Pitt game, by the way, was at 10 AM MDT which
was likely early for many of the casual fans. And believe me, Utah has it's
fair share of casual fans.
at JD Tractor: I have Direct TV and BYUtv is not HD. ESPN is on HD. It comes
on local TV like the Mtn.
David A. Bednar once said, "While it's good to be faithful, its better to
be faithful and competent". BYU just happens to be both.
TheTruth801If you live in the SLC market, as your ID suggests, you
can get BYU-tv HD with an antenae. If you live outside the SLC market and your
local cable or satelite company doesn't offer BYU-tv HD, you can stream the live
broadcast directly to your television via the internet using a little $95
box.Besides, the OSU game was one of only two BYU games that aren't
being broadcast live on the ESPN family of networks, most of them on ESPN or
ESPN2.Utah, on the other hand, plays most of its games on KJZZ.
Nicely done Cougs!Although, I wish that Greg Wrubell would do the
byutv play by play instead of that other guy! At least pretend to have some
I dont know what I would rather have more people watching a rebroadcast so you
fan base can relive beating a BCS team? Or actually being in a BCS conference
competing against BCS talent? Think about that one BYU fans. By the
way your team lost by 44 to Utah. Thats got to hurt.
MiP"The Utah-Pitt game, by the way, was at 10 AM MDT which was
likely early for many of the casual fans. And believe me, Utah has it's fair
share of casual fans."Which is why Hill will never be able to
justify spending millions to expand RES. A couple of losing seasons and RES will
be just like the HC, a vast sea of fans disguised as empty red chairs.
@UteFan123"Or actually being in a BCS conference competing
against BCS talent?"BCS talent?Pittsburgh, Arizona,
Oregon State, Washington State, and Colorado are all ranked below Temple,
Northern Iowa, and Arkansas State.Some impressive BCS talent.Utah's ONLY significant win of the season has been at BYU.Just think, if you hadn't beaten BYU, you wouldn't have a single win over a
D1-A team with a winning record.
Big deal. We are on worldwide television and have a team that stinks. Two good
things will happen if we learn how to win games that matter:- People
will see us in a positive light on network/ESPN television (eg. in a BCS bowl or
playing a major team)- Quality conferences will actually invite us to
joinIn the meantime, let's shun exposure.
Ok, I am sorry, but even Duke where my dad is, who has one of the most marginal
football programs known to NCAA football, is on TV every weekend, and is covered
on ESPN as much as is BYU. I don't see why everyone is making such a big deal
over this. Putting BYU football on parity with Duke football is hardly a high
milestone, and I like both programs.I think people need to tone down
the cool-aide just a smidge. It is great that today, both schools are on TV a
lot. But so are a lot of schools. A lot of rather ordinary schools. This is nothing like the days of when Notre Dame got their contract. The
world of NCAA football has been forever changed, and coverage has greatly been
expanded through ESPN, CBSsports, Fox Regional Sports, and league owned
@MiPUh we are talking about the REBROADCAST of the BYU/osu game. The
live broadcast had already dominated the ratings locally dwarfing the utah/pitt
ratings then BYUtv REBROADCAST the BYU/osu game and it got the same ratings as
utah's live game broadcast. In otherwords the two BYU broadcasts basicly
quadrupled the viewership of utah's game.Now you are one of the
classier Utah fans, and for that matter posters in general, around here, so it
isn't very becoming of you to try and downplay this. The fact is the interest in
BYU dwarfs the interest in utah even in this market alone. utah has some things
it can brag about, like its pac12 membership, but in the area of fanbase, tv
sets, etc. BYU dominates and probably always will. It is just the way it is.
Viva la Independence!This is getting better and better. I haven't
missed a game this year and won't have to. The 2012 schedule is moderately
better than the 2011 schedule has been and the 2013 schedule looks great. I
really don't understand the clamoring to join a conference. The only thing a
conference would give BYU is that they could conceivably get into a BCS game
with a mediocre record by virtue of winning their conference championship. Big
deal. If they ever have a record that is worthy of being in a bcs bowl they will
be invited to one. Going to the fiesta bowl with a 8-4 record is no
accomplishment. I hope BYU doesn't cave to the paranoid fans who
lack the vision to see how good independence is really becoming. Without major
concessions that allow BYU to preserve its ESPN contract and BYUtv capabilities
then there is no conference in the country worth joining.
All of the comments about BYU fans re-watching the game on BYUtv shows how the
Utes just don't get it. This game was broadcast locally on KBYU and regionally
on Fox. The BTYtv rebroadcast was shown INTERNATIONALLY. While I'm sure there
were some people who re-watched the game, I think it's pretty safe to assume
that the majority of the viewers were fans who could not watch the original
broadcast.I know it's hard to wrap your PAC-12, BCS,
never-seen-on-anything-but-KJZZ (except when playing BYU) heads around the idea
of having fans worldwide, but this is the whole point of BYUtv and the reason
BYU will not negotiate away their broadcast rights in exchange for inclusion in
a conference.Speaking of a BCS conference, Missouri will announce
it's departure to the SEC next week, the Big-12 will realize that it will be at
least 2013 before West Virginia can join them, Big-12 TV partners will not
settle for a 9-team conference, and BYU will get an invite with the concessions
they originally wanted.
I watched the BYU/OSU game, live, on FSNP here in Los Angeles. FSNP is Fox
Sports Pacific. I don't know how wide an area they broadcast.
If only our AD and the BYU Administration were as Competent as those who run our
Audio and Visual Broadcasting.... We might even be able to be in an AQ
conference... Maybe the AV folks ought to subcontract their capabilities out to
schools with Athletic Leadership that has AQ status.... They might be able to
bring in more money than our Athletic Department.Holmoe and
Samuelson need to step aside so that we can put in some folks that can land us
an AQ Conference invitation.... If we say we want exposure we have to have
people who have Leadership skills and that have the credibility to get us where
we need to go... Playing Weber, Idaho, Idaho State, etc. is not where we need to
go.Our Recruiting Quality in Football and Basketball and other major
sports will begin to take a dive unless the University and its Board start
making some changes and demanding some better results.
Its nice the game was televised, but whats the deal with the terrible
transmission, it looked like old rabbit ear transmission and claimed it was
Somebody please dispell this fact:Except for Notre Dame, BYU has
more football games broadcast on National TV (which includes lower tier cable)
than ANY other team in the country. This includes NFL teams, whose games are
mostly regionally distributed.This does not mean BYU is a great
football team, since they obviously have flaws. It does, however, mean that they
are in the best possible position to build their brand - assuming they can
improve the product on the field.
Jeff29 said:"....Speaking of a BCS conference, Missouri will
announce it's departure to the SEC next week, the Big-12 will realize that it
will be at least 2013 before West Virginia can join them, Big-12 TV partners
will not settle for a 9-team conference, and BYU will get an invite with the
concessions they originally wanted."Whatever. BIG12 schools are
already at odds with Texas over their own network, even though some changes have
been made. Why would they allow BYU in on their own demands? They are not going
to give BYU special treatment over Texas.
@hatch strongest conference as in who..?if its any conference other than the sec
you are very sadly sadly mistaken my friend.
Last year I could not watch any BYU football games live or rebroadcast. This
year I can watch some live and some rebroadcast. I love it. Thanks BYUtv! 30
years ago I used to wait in line with my roommates to get tickets to the home
football and basketball games, and we loved it. Now no longer a student and
hundreds of miles away I can sit down at my computer and enjoy several games,
awesome! Go BYU!
Pawps "Its nice the game was televised, but whats the deal with
the terrible transmission, it looked like old rabbit ear transmission and
claimed it was HD.Any explanations?"If you want to
watch in HD, you have to be tuned to the BYUtv HD channel, 647 on Comcast in
Utah. The BYUtv HD channel is just as sharp as ESPN, in fact, ESPN and BYUtv
share broadcast equipment when BYU games are produced in Provo.
poymanrelax; BYU's AD and President are as competant and
professional as any university administration in the country, but they have many
more factors to consider than simply joining a BCS conference.BYU
has fans nationwide who have been asking for better access to BYU sports for
years. As an independent, BYU has been able to provide unprecedented access to
BYU sports and they aren't going to completely abandon that access just to join
a BCS conference.Most fans would probably prefer to have a
BYU-Hawaii game they could watch, rather than a BYU-Iowa State game, that was
PawpsLocally BYUtv is broadcasted over the air and on Comcast cable
in HD. If you're watching it on DirectTV or Dishnet it is not.Gripe
to your satellite providers, it's their fault not BYUtv.Otherwise
spend $95 at Costco and get a Roku box and get the BYUtv re-broadcasts in
streaming HD over the internet.
Niemfrance.... Not sure where you got your data but this year the Bleacher
Report did a piece on who the top ten teams were who had the highest tv
coverage, and BYU wasn't one of them. If you have another source, would love
to see it.
@JDTractor"Amazing how blind bigotry can make you. "You weren't taken because you have a 3rd party TV network when the PAC-12 went
with a strict revenue sharing approach and because you aren't a tier I research
institution. I do wish BYU were taken over Colorado though...@lonestarrunner"Utah's ONLY significant win of the season has been
at BYU."Incidentally BYU is not all that far from Arizona in
the sagarin rankings. "Just think, if you hadn't beaten BYU,
you wouldn't have a single win over a D1-A team with a winning record"Does BYU have any of those?
@Duckhunter"The fact is the interest in BYU dwarfs the interest
in utah even in this market alone. utah has some things it can brag about, like
its pac12 membership, but in the area of fanbase, tv sets, etc. BYU dominates
and probably always will. It is just the way it is. "Well of
course, half this state is LDS, most of whom will have attachments to BYU even
if they never went there. The U of U has no such connection and thus its fanbase
is comprised primarily of people who went to the school. If BYU wasn't the
church school it'd be in the same boat at the U of U and Utah state.
I think next years schedule is a vast improvement over this year. If we can win
and keep scheduling like that or better, why not stay indy?
@atl134Who cares what the reason is? It simply 'is'. Notre Dame has
the fanbase it has because of the millions of catholics all around the country.
The reason why is meaningless. The fact that it is a fact is all that matters.
You utah "fans" post comments like "BYU is only popular because
they are the school of the church" as if that somehow lessens their
popularity. Guess what? It doesn't. I highly doubt any school with a large
fanbase, no matter what the reason is that they have a large fanbase, is
apologizing or making excuses for having it. Some like USC, Michigan, Ohio S
I have no idea why that posted itself in the middle of me writing it as I didn't
hit any other keys. Strange.But as I was saying those schools have
large fanbases because they are from state with large populations. They aren't
apologizing. Notre Dame has a huge fanbase because of its religious affiliation.
They aren't apoligizing. BYU has a huge national fanbase because of its
affiliation with the LDS church. They don't need to apologize either.utah has a small fanbase because they are the #2 school in a very small state.
That isn't changing.
Independence Is Bliss | 5:20 a.m. Nov. 6, 2011 San Jose, CAWow, the
rebroadcast had almost as many viewers in the SLC market as the live Utah-Pitt
game. I guess that's not too surprising; BYU has always owned the SLC market.Wonder what the Utes think about this factual data.-----------Don't care.At all.
eastcoastcoug | 12:58 p.m. Nov. 6, 2011 Danbury, CTBig deal. We are
on worldwide television and have a team that stinks.-----------Finally, a BYU fan who gets it.
DuckhunterHighland, UTViva la Independence!This is
getting better and better. I really don't understand the clamoring to join a
conference.-----------It doesn't surprise me that you're
one of the fans who've talked yourself into believing independence is the way to
go.Look at your atrocious home schedule this year as exhibit A of
why independence is inferior to conference affiliation. No team of substance
will play you in November, and certainly not in Provo.Exhibit B are
your awful bowl ties. Armed Forced Bowl. Fight Hunger Bowl. That means after ONE
loss, you've got nothing to play for for the rest of the year. They may as well
ALL be exhibition games. The only way BYU is guaranteed a BCS bowl is to finish
in the top 2. Even the MWC gave you better odds. A BCS conference would give you
much greater odds.Exhibit C are your lifeless opponents. You'd
rather play SJSU, NMSU, Idaho State and a full slate of dogs... over a list that
includes Oklahoma, Texas, Okie State, K state and Texas Tech?You may
as well just admit it already. Because none of us believe you really would
rather stay independent.
You people beating the indy drum are fooling yourselves.Independence
BYU:-Terrible WAC-caliber home games-No BCS access (unless top 2
finish)-Several, I repeat several bad teams every single year. You'll get
some good opponents, but not enough to fill your schedules. SJSUs, NMSUs and
Idaho States will be the norm for years to come.-No decent bowl ties-"one and done" play. A single loss and you play for nothing the
rest of the season.-WCC competition in basketball, other sportsBig 12/Big East BYU:-Full BCS-level schedule every year-Excellent
bowl ties-Home games w decent teams-No more San Jose States, New
Mexico States and Idaho States-BCS access. Win your conference and you're
in.-Better competition in football AND basketball... and the rest of your
sports-More money for the program-You play on the same level as
Texas, USC, Notre Dame and Alabama. No more mid-majorNow tell me...
why on earth would any of you people choose indy BYU?
It has been great having better access to BYU games. I agree with
the comment above that most fans would rather be able to watch BYU v Hawaii than
not be able to see BYU v Iowa St. When living in DC several years
ago, BYU played Georgia Tech and there was a lot of clamor about this game being
on ABC! The game was in Atlanta, so you would assume that an ABC-televised game
from Atlanta would be shown in the DC area, right? Wrong, it was regionally
televised and those of us in the DC were stuck watching South Carolina play
someone on ABC. (At least I missed a loss).The contract with ESPN is
great! In coming years, if BYU can win (Boise St fashion) they will get plenty
of national exposure and recognition, and their fans will be happy they can see
them from Thailand (where I watched the last BYU game).Go Cougars!!
Duckhunter.... your proposition doesn't add up. Take Boise State. Smaller
school, from a smaller state, with far better brand awareness and following than
BYU. Why. Performance. Teams that consistently achieve gain a following.Another example from basketball. Duke vs. Carolina. It is a
relationship that is followed by any basketball fan across the country. And yet
Carolina comes from a mid pack state population wise, and Duke has a very small
student body. Neither have the benefit of a religious sponsorship. Thinking LDS membership will somehow power BYU to the top of the national
stage is futility. By the numbers, half of Utah LDS are not BYU fans - they
support one of the other state schools. More than half the church population
resides outside of the country, and doesn't care about American football. More
than half the members are under 18. More than half are female, and the fan base
is largely male, but not exclusively. When you dice it up, there just aren't
that many people who will dedicate their saturday afternoons to BYU football.For BYU football to gain a national following, they need to perform on
the field against quality teams, its that simple.
Re: Tomahawk Red"Now tell me... why on earth would any of you
people choose indy BYU?"Independence BYU (see 2012-14
schedules):-Great nation-caliber home games (i.e. Texas, Georgia Tech,
Boise State)-Nearly same BCS access as AQ conference(win all your games
and you go)-Several, I repeat several great teams every single year,
including the previously mentioned plus Notre Dame, Houston, Hawaii, UCF... and
some lower tier BCS teams like Washington State, Oregon State, Utah)-Same
opportunities to go to BCS bowls and likely some great bowl ties starting in
2015-A great schedule top to bottom. The schedule improves dramatically
each year and will only continue to improve. BYU had to scramble to fill the
2011-13 slots, which is why there are so many poor WAC teams... but this isn't
the case beyond 2013. -WCC competition in basketball, other sports (equal
to or better than many BCS conferences in select sports, including basketball).
You know your season and program are hurting when there are full articles about
keeping "TV streaks," rather than wins, alive. I am amused at all of
the TV deal hype. When it was first announced, the DN articles discussing it
could have inserted the words "national championship" wherever it
mentioned the TV deal, because the level of hype was on that level. I guess you
have to have something to be excited about. I am actually jealous in a strange
way. Whenever the Utes are losing (and it happens more than I wish), all we Ute
fans can do is sulk. But BYU fans continually get to enjoy the hype about
something they are told is just as good as winning. Dang. Be it the new
t-shirt Bronco is sporting this season, the two-quarterback system,
Heaps-is-going-to-be-the-next-Jimmer predictions, Doman's revolutionary system
of staying on the side lines, etc., there is always much to celebrate and hype
up. Keep the TV streak going!
@utahbluedevilWell you might have a point except for the fact BYU's
ratings are so strong and utah's are, well, weak. Nor does boise
have better brand awareness and they certainly don't have a better following.
boise has very few actual fans. What a non sensical claim that was. LOL!I know this is hard for utah "fans" to accept but BYU does
have a very large fanbase, it numbers in the millions, granted not all of them
are hard core fans but they are fans never the less and when BYU plays somewhere
they show up. When BYU is on tv they watch. Your baselass claim that
not that many will dedicate a Saturday afternoon to watching them is completely
discredited by the ratings. But then all you were trying to do was refute
reality. That is never wise.
I've said it before, and it looks like I will have to keep saying it: BYU does
NOT (repeat: NOT) need to be in the top 2 to get a BCS bid!!!"Asked about BYU's situation in relation to the BCS, Holmoe said,
"The BCS is not the reason for this move. I've spoken to (executive
director) Bill Hancock of the BCS, and we know that we'll have the opportunity,
if we're ranked 14 or higher, that we'll have the ability to be an at-large
team."" -Desnews Sept. 1 2010What part of that do you
haters not understand? I thought it was fairly straightforward-- your access is
the same as ANY other non-AQ school! If you are still struggling with this
concept, tell us your doubts and we will help you understand. If you do not
speak out with any doubts, then I will assume that you understand and expect you
to never use the lie that BYU must be #1 or #2 to get a BCS game.
@tomahwak redYou sure post your insecure desires a lot. I understand that for utah "fans" like yourself it is important to
have an affiliation with better and bigger programs. That is why being in the
pac10 is such a big deal for you guys. You are incapable of being a program that
stands on your own let alone be a program that actually props up and brings
value to lesser schools. That is because utah is a "lesser" school.
Your entire view is based on being co-dependent and needing to be held up by
your betters.That isn't the case with BYU. Now obviously there are
BYU fans that don't understand this, they post their insecurities on here all of
the time. But even as pathetic as they are they are nowhere near as pathetic as
you are. You see for you to have any self worth you have to feel that utah being
co-dependent is somehow superior to BYU being independent and also that BYU is
unwanted.That is really pathetic.LOL!
It would be fun to see the panic on the faces of KUED personnel if Dr. Hill
calls them 10 days before the Washington State game and asks them to produce a
live HD broadcast with Fox in Pullman.As much as Utah fans like to
brag about the enormous advantage all of their PAC 12 money will give them, BYU
already has facilities and capabilities in place that won't be available to Utah
for decades, if ever.btw, Oklahoma is working on their own Sooner
network, joining the list of schools like BYU and Texas who are pioneering the
future of college sports broadcasting.
@Go Utes "You know your season and program are hurting when
there are full articles about keeping TV streaks,..." Actually,
you know your season and program are hurting when you have to spam an article
about your rival's television coverage because your own is so pathetic.ESPN/BYUtv > KJZZ/KUED
@ Christy B"ESPN/BYUtv > KJZZ/KUED"I rest
my case. That was a gem. If making a comment with which you
disagree is "spamming," then I guess I was "spamming."
Sounds like I hit the nail on the head. I will take winning over TV coverage
any day. 54 > 10
radically_independent"Ok, I am sorry, but even Duke where my
dad is, who has one of the most marginal football programs known to NCAA
football, is on TV every weekend, and is covered on ESPN as much as is
BYU."Sorry to burst your bubble, but you've been grossly
misinformed. ESPN doesn't list a single Duke game being broadcast on ESPN or
ESPN2.Richmond - ESPN3Stanford - ESPNUBoston C - ACC
NetworkTulane - ESPN3Fla Int'l - ESPNUFlorida St - FOXWake For - ACC NetworkVa Tech - ACC NetworkMiami - Blue Devil
Sports NetworkVirginia - ESPN3, Blue Devil Sports NetworkGa Tech -
Blue Devil Sports NetworkNo Caro - Blue Devil Sports NetworkThere's a vast difference between a local or regional broadcast, and a
national broadcast.Duke isn't even in the same hemisphere as far as
being on par with BYU's television coverage.
@Go UtesYou have to make a cogent argument before you can "rest
your case".It's laughable that you're whining about BYU's
state-of-the-art broadcasting capabilities and national partnership with ESPN,
when for months all we heard from Utah fans was how amazing Utah's television
coverage was going to be in the PAC 12.Reality turned out to be
quite different.BYU appears weekly on ESPN.Utah appears
weekly on KJZZ.Sorry if that hurts your feelings, but that's just
the way it is.As much as you'd like to divert attention from the
topic at hand, the results of the BYU-Utah game are irrelevant when discussing
current and future television coverage.BYU's schedule will improve
dramatically in 2012.It remains to be seen how much Utah's
television coverage will improve.
@tomahawk redA quote from the "Pendleton out for the
season" article:"Mendenhall also confirmed Monday that BYU
has been approached by the Big East about possibly joining that conference,
along with Boise State and Air Force. Mendenhall said the "main
benefit" of joining the Big East would be "inclusion in the BCS
system."I still don't want BYU to join but of course as usual
your credibility takes another hit. Well if you had any credibility it would
take a hit. You and naval lint are obviously about to go into hibernation on
@ UteanonymousBefore you post, please consider all of my argument.
I said "I rest my case" in reference to what I had already posted
above in a previous comment. My point was that BYU is getting more excited
about TV coverage than about winning football games (and for good reason, given
the state of the program). You are not hurting my feelings to bring
up ESPN vs. KJZZ. That is the whole point of my thoughts: what happens on the
field is what I care about, not all of the peripheral stuff (TV, t-shirts,
Jimmer predictions, etc.) that gets BYU nation excited. I brought
up the BYU/Utah score to again emphasize that what happens on the field is (or
should be) more important than peripheral stuff like TV deals. It was my way of
saying that I would gladly take wins every year and an inferior TV package than
losses and a superior TV package. A poster above said it well when he noted
something like: "Who care? We are on TV all over the world and have a bad
team." I must have struck a sensitive nerve to get such a
@Go UtesI don't usually comment on others posts, but really both TV
coverage and on-field performance matter. Of course, great on-field performance
usually results in better TV coverage, so I too would place that higher up on my
wish list, but just remember TV coverage in the MWC.The point I
wanted to make to you is that if you ever move outside of Utah (Eastward) you
may not be able to see more than 1-2 Ute games a year under their current TV
situation. Then, on those good years, when they are winning you will be very
unhappy you weren't able to see it. Hence, the importance of this