You go, girl!
So, if they just painted over the words "school prayer" "our
father" and "amen" it would make her happy? I don't see how you
can be offended by anything else in the mural, but I'm sure that somebody like
her could find a way to be offended.
@virgil would you honestly not be offended if it referenced a pagan
goddess and closed with blessed be?
Once again, religion is under attack by the religious.Prayer is now
an historical artifact and serves no religious meaning.@ George:
Could you imagine if it called on Allah?
I can certainly understand that many of "the religious" like to see
prayers on school walls and even support school prayer.Over the
years, there has been lots of fighting over what is acceptable and what is
not.There are may instances where it is Religion fighting other
Religion. (google school prayer santa fe) for an example involving an LDS
student)But, do you really believe School prayer is supported in the
constitution?Do you really want everyone's religious expression to
be allowed?Isn't the most logical solution to keep religion out of
@ George: Very good question! Actually, the High School which I attended did
have a prayer to a pagan goddess in a mural! "Sing to me, O muse, of that
ingenious hero who travelled far and wide after he had sacked the famous town of
Troy..." Perhaps the Atheists weren't offended because it was in Greek? As
you might be able to tell from my login name, I took the classics very seriously
as part of my education. Just because I don't actually pray to them doesnt mean
that I have to be offended by, or even unappreciative of, a historical and
cultural expression of a belief in God (or the Gods). But even if it were a
modern rendition of an actual pagan goddess, or a calligraphic prayer to Allah,
I wouldn't be offended, and I don't think that anybody should be!
I am an atheist and I don't think all such murals and monuments should be
removed. Religion is part of our culture and history. As long as schools
aren't using class time to indoctrinate children into a religious paradigm I
don't expect schools to keep out all expression of culture and social practices
and that would include religious expression.
This mural is just an aspiring, motivational sentiment expressed in terms of a
prayer. The format adds what most people see as astetics to an inspriational
thought. And yes, it is much like many formal paryers found in many religions.
But it is simply encouragement to the student body more than anything
worshipful. I think what this young lady is doing is just another case of the
tail wagging the dog.
Jefferson wrote the first legislation in this hemisphere (if not the world)
protecting freedom of religion not to remove religion from the public square,
but to ensure it was welcome in the public square.There are many
rights included in the Bill of Rights, among them is not the right to not be
offended.George,do you mean I can go back and sue the school
district because Greek and Roman mythology were part of my Jr high AND high
school curriculum?It's interesting that the libs, who are always
screaming for tolerance, acceptance, and understanding fight so hard against
tolerance, acceptance, and understanding of religion.
VocalLocal, I agree 100% with your statement, well said and very
practical. I think about 90% of other non deists would agree as well. Its the
small minority of atheist's who are this extreme, just like any other group of
believing persons. I believe this girl is doing more harm to atheists then good
and represents a small minority of them. I live in a heavy atheist population,
most believe just as you wrote ive found and are quite reasonable people.
L Kaiser,This girl is doing NO harm to atheists.Atheists
are not a group.There is no meaningful basis for
"grouping" around the fact that we don't believe in a god.One might as well try to form a group of people who DON'T believe in Santa
Claus, or pixies, or Big Foot...No other human being represents me
in any way, shape, or form. Therefore, no other human beings' actions reflect
badly on me.
%Virgil: While one may not be offended, but then still why would one want to
fill his/her head with a lot of silly religious non-sense, or worse yet fill
other's heads with it. That is not to say that Greek mythology is not enjoyable
reading, and it does provide learning.