"the stakes are higher and the opponent better."What does Bill
Riley have against BYU. Either he has something against BYU or he knows nothing
about football in the state of Utah. How does ONE PAC 12 game at home have
higher stakes than the rivalry game on the road? Riley needs to be a more open
minded reporter and stop being the homer that he is. His radio show is just as
"All of the anticipation and excitement of the Pac-12 had dissipated as
Wynn stood on the sidelines with yet another shoulder injury"Wrong! It's a challenging road but that only contributes to the excitement of
each individual game and the anticipation of building toward a special season in
the near future!Fuzz,For Utah, the rivalry game is now, at
best, the 10th most important game of the season. (This year, one could argue
it might be 11th after Pitt, but we'll give it 10th place due to the local
bragging rights factor.) For BYU, however, it clearly is the 1st or 2nd most
important game of the season. (The first loss might be the most important since
after that game, the rest of BYU's season, except for the rivalry game, becomes
nothing more than a series of exhibition games.)
"How does ONE PAC 12 game at home have higher stakes than the rivalry game
on the road?"Pac-12 game at home is game that Utes should win
to win the division/conference --plus home games are almost like "must
win" gamesRivalry/non-conference games are also important but
not much as conference home game.Having said that, I would not trade
that 54-10 win over BYU for anything....except perhaps Rose Bowl...hahaha
Wiley Old School: I'm with you completely. BYU fans may find it hard to believe,
but the rivalry game is not as important as ANY PAC12 game because it means
nothing towards a possible conference championship. And as has been stated by
Chris Hill and Kyle Wittingham, the rivalry game may not extend beyond next year
(at least as an annual game). We simply don't have room on our schedule for
them. Our future is going in a direction that doesn't involve BYU.
But we digress people. The article was about Hays and how important a good
performance from him this Saturday will be to the rest of this season. Here's
hoping he can do a very good Brett Ratliff imitation. I hope I have fingernails
left by the time the game is over. Between this game and tonight's
Phillies/Cards playoff game, I think I'm gonna be a wreck.
FUZZ The reality is that BYU is the 10th most important game on Utah's
schedule. I have been a Utah fan for alot of years and a BYU hater for just as
long. The reality is beating BYU is not as important anymore. They are nothing
special. They have a nice program but I would rather do well in conference. The
only good thing about beating BYU is that it shut ups their fans for awhile.
Fuzz,Sorry to burst your bubble, but this game has much bigger
implications than the BYU game. This is what we have been fighting for. This
is what two undefeated seasons culminating in two huge bowl wins were all about.
Getting us an opportunity on the biggest stage in college football. The game
this Saturday is critical to keeping us on track to advance toward that stage.
If we lose tomorrow, the setback will be far greater than a loss to BYU.Riley has nothing against BYU. It is just a fact that Utah's
aspirations are now higher than just beating BYU.
"The reality is that BYU is the 10th most important game on Utah's
schedule."BYU-obsessed Utah fans talk the talk, but they
certainly don't walk the walk when it comes to where the BYU-Utah games ranks on
their "most important" games of the season.We all know 99.9% of
Utah fans wouldn't trade a 54-10 win over BYU for a win against any team in the
PAC 12, including ASU.Beating BYU is what Utah fans live for.That
said, good luck against the Sun Devils.
Just the FAX, I wish I had your skills to know what's going on inside the minds
of every single Utah fan in the world. You must have some keen ESP-like powers
in order to paint with such a broad brush.To be perfectly honest,
the BYU game mattered to me just as much as Montana St. did, and just as much as
Pitt will. All the BYU game is is another non-conference game against a D-2
patsy.By the way, this is a Utah article. I think you took a wrong
turn on the information superhighway somewhere.
Just the Fax,Ill take it one step further. Ute fans probably wouldnt
trade in their precious 54-10 score for wins against ASU, USC and Washington.
Three for one and they still wouldnt take it. Thats how it is and
thats how it always will be. As a BYU fan, I'm glad we could "make"
your season. (fear the fork)
Only one utah "fan" even discussed the point of the article all of the
rest of you spent your time talking about BYU. LOL!
"Ill take it one step further. Ute fans probably wouldnt trade in their
precious 54-10 score for wins against ASU, USC and Washington. Three for one and
they still wouldnt take it."Heck i'd take a close loss to ASU
over that win any day. Once again if you need to come on your rivals articles
and post obsession smack, you're really clueless and unclear of the concept.
I'm excited to see what Hays can do. He seems to be a gamer.There is
a lot to be won in this game...Inside track to the Championship game, but not to
much to lose since the utes aren't expected to win anyway. Seize
this opportunity, Utes! You have what it takes.
"Heck i'd take a close loss to ASU over that win any day."Uh huh. I bet you would. I bet you would. And Ibleedcrimson, are you saying
that you have NEVER posted smack on a BYU article? If not, you are indeed a
better man than I. (fear the fork)
Uh oh, sounds like the Utes won't even get to a bowl game this year...not the
way to start Pac12 play, especially since it's a down year in the Pac12's
southern division. Ouch!
Tough to say that a team you beat 54-10 is a huge game.
"are you saying that you have NEVER posted smack on a BYU article?"Yep I've posted a total of 1 or 2 times on the BYU articles and it was
to congradulate them on a win. But feel free to prove me wrong.My
comment about ASU was a bit tongue in cheek, but the reality is as is for most U
fans, a conference win tops all non conference wins, it's what they play for.
Maybe it's time for the Deseret News to stop allowing BYU and Utah fans to make
blatant anti-BYU, anti-Utah comments on articles written about the other team.
It simply serves no purpose.I for one am sick and tired of
hearing childish comments from both sides of the aisle.And as for
Bill Riley ... is he anti-BYU? I don't think so, he simply stated the truth when
he said the stakes and the opponent for Utah are higher this time around. I
couldn't agree more.
54-10 "Tough to say that a team you beat 54-10 is a huge
game."lol, your display name proves just how huge that game was
"Yep I've posted a total of 1 or 2 times on the BYU articles and it was to
congradulate them on a win. But feel free to prove me wrong."Im
not going to doubt you, and thats very admirable. You have inspired me, if the
Utes pull out a win tomorrow Ill be back with a sincere congratulations. I hope
I get the opportunity.
How can anyone say that the BYU game is irrelevant? Sure it is a non-conference
game but, in order to win a National Championship, Utah would need to be
undefeated. For this year sure, it is irrelevant because Utah lost to USC the
week before. If you only live for the Rose Bowl every year than why play
football at all? The only reason Utah will not want to schedule BYU in the
future is because Utah will take the path of all BCS teams and schedule the
weakest teams possible in order to give them the best chance of winning all
non-conference games before the PAC 12 season begins. And yes all you Utah
haters of all things BYU, if they are such a pansie team then why does Utah
state they will most likely not schedule further BYU games? They will have at
least 2-3 non-conference games to schedule every year so why not schedule that
D-2 team down south who is such a pansie? Because BYU could ruin their season.
Just saying....reality is what it is. Go ahead and spin it any way you want to.
Now for the real reason for posting. Hays showed a lot of potential from what I
read. He moved the ball, had a couple of turnovers (which can happen to anyone
being thrust into a game with little experience with any team, we call it
jitters) but recoverd and showed some poise and moved the ball. It is hard to be
the hero when you have to come back from a big deficit (yeah I know what that's
all about). Hays might not beat Arizona State (but then again, that's the beauty
of upsets) but he can gain valuable experience that will help the Utes for the
rest of the season. Here's hoping he can help pull off the upset and humble
Arizona State. I will always root for the Utah teams until they play mine so, go
Utah, Utah State and BYU. Remember Utes, the more BYU wins, the better you look,
no matter who they play because it will help your strength of schedule and we
know how that works with the BCS, just ask Boise State.
vontaze burfict on d and jamal miles on o....sorry utah maybe you shoulda stayed
in the mountain west...seriously if you would have waited a year and got a
better qb and a solid back up qb then maybe you might have actually gotten a
chance at winning the division. you cant do good in the pac 12 without a legit
qb..sorry but its the truth. and i dont think john white is that good of a
running back but ill wait till the end of the season to really determine that.
after he actually has a good game against a quality opponent. look out for kyle
middlebrooks and cameron marshall on o and collin parker and alden darby on d.
good luck utah. i will be rooting for you every weekend besides this weekend. go
Hays will be fine. Utah has a lot of talent around Hays and now Chow and
Whittingham have had a week to make adjustments we will see a very confident Ute
offense tomorrow.Love how byu fans are posting their jealous,
envious comments! With the exception of Notre Dame, an independent football
team's season ends with it's first loss. byu will never have a chance at
playing in a BCS game without a perfect record. The only thing left is cheering
against Utah because misery loves company.Go Utes! Go Hays!