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  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Oct. 5, 2011 7:34 a.m.

    Rewrite it all you want Dems but it is not a jobs bill, it is a debt increasing bill and therefore a jobs killing bill, just like the last "stimulus" package you scammed us with.

  • md Cache, UT
    Oct. 5, 2011 9:47 a.m.

    Do we really want to keep printing money that has ever decreasing value? The government needs to quit thinking it creates jobs.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 5, 2011 9:51 a.m.

    'I thought it was the big bad Republicans who obstructed a poor innocent Obama' - Counter Intelligence | 9:28 a.m. Oct. 5, 2011

    Wow.

    Short memory.

    *'House GOP regroups after loss on spending bill' - By Andrew Taylor - AP - Published by DSNews - 09/22/11

    'WASHINGTON House GOP leaders are regrouping after a surprise loss on a measure to provide $3.7 billion for disaster relief and prevent a government shutdown at the end of next week.'

    Obama is the only one who's done ANYTHING to create jobs.

    The Republican party, blocked this bill, changed it, and are now portraying themselves as 'job creators.'

    *Republicans block small business lending bill' - By Stephen Ohlemacher - AP - Published by DSNews - 07/29/10

    Line:
    'The bill would create a $30 billion government fund to help community banks increase lending to small businesses...'

    The initial Bush tax cuts passed in 2001.

    If they were SO successful for our 'job creators'...

    why do they need to create a jobs bill, 10 years after the job 'creators' were supposed to be making...

    jobs?

    Answer:

    Because they did not.

  • Brother Chuck Schroeder A Tropical Paradise USA, FL
    Oct. 5, 2011 10:08 a.m.

    Boehner said he and Cantor had written to Obama telling him there are several areas of his jobs bill on which they can work together. Boehner sharply chided Obama for being in "campaign mode" and failing to govern with Congress "to help our country." Boehner had nearly three years now to see if their plan works, and clearly their ideas about how to get our economy going again have not worked because they had "NO" plan. Are the GOP still sending jobs overseas?. Lets see. That terrorist Anwar al-Awlaki, who was killed last week, was American-born and was a top recruiter for al-Qaida. You don't often see an American taking a foreigner's job. "Mama mia, that's a spicy verdict." That's why there is these "Wall Street protests." Think Occupy Wall St. is a phase?. You don't get it. Yes, there are a wide array of complaints, demands, and goals from the Wall Street protesters, the collapsing environment, labor standards, housing policy, government corruption, World Bank lending practices, unemployment, increasing wealth disparity and so on. Different people have been affected by different GOP, same system are symptoms of the same core of these same problem's.

    MY Views.

  • rmk South Jordan, UT
    Oct. 5, 2011 10:20 a.m.

    people out of work means they are not paying taxes and buying good, but using government assistance. People worried about their jobs are also not buying goods. Gas at almost $4 a gallon means people are spend hundreds a month on gas and not on goods. Nobody buying goods means companies don't need to hire. Government cuts are really job cut and if the government is laying off more than the private jobs are created we are going no where with the economy. Nothing is going to be fixed until people are working. we need to solve why gas is $80 a barrel and we are paying $145 a barrel gas prices. Millionaires and Exxon paying more is not going to kill jobs. This job bill is a joke. Fix gas prices you fix the job problem. Make the rich pay there share in taxes we balance the budget. Vote out all of the activist bought people in Washington we all win.

  • md Cache, UT
    Oct. 5, 2011 10:45 a.m.

    Re: Pagan "Obama is the only one who's done ANYTHING to create jobs."

    I have created 2 new jobs this year. What have you done?

  • Original JP YORBA LINDA, CA
    Oct. 5, 2011 10:47 a.m.

    Pagan,
    It is clear you have no ability to formulate an argument on your own and even the cut and paste style of "one liners" that you quote provide little evidence that you know what you are talking about. The line about a bill that would create $30 billion in spending sounds nice. However, if that bill is anything like the government intrusion into mortgage lending, which also sounded nice at the time because EVERYONE can borrow money to buy their own home. What the mortgage plan failed to disclose was that there would be many that would borrow that did not have the ability to pay the mortgage. Those ideas as well as others you make sound so pretty, yet are so short sighted. The largest effect on the economy was the housing market crumbling under the false market created by your friends.

  • TOO Sanpete, UT
    Oct. 5, 2011 10:56 a.m.

    Pagan,

    It's not the Republicans blocking this one, it's Harry Reid. Yesterday McConnel said to vote on it, but Harry Reid said "no", that it was a political stunt. McConnel was just trying to do what Obama asked and vote. But the truth is that Harry Reid knows that not many Democrats even support the bill. Obama can't even get his own party to do it.
    So when Republicans yesterday said they would vote on it, it was Reid who said no--not the Republicans.

    "White House calls McConnell move on jobs a stunt"--AP

    There's your source.

  • Hawkeye79 Iowa City, IA
    Oct. 5, 2011 11:00 a.m.

    @Pagan | 9:51 a.m. Oct. 5, 2011

    You are so very critical of the Bush tax cuts, but have you taken a look at the unemployment figures?

    The unemployment rate in 2010 was over 9.5% for nearly the entire year (there were a couple of summer months at 9.4%). In December 2010, the unemployment rate was back up to 9.8%.

    The Bush Tax Cuts were extended on December 17th, 2010.

    Unemployment dropped to 9.4% in January 2011, and has hovered around 9% ever since. Nearly a half-percentage point drop in the unemployment rate came immediately, and the situation has improved markedly since last year.

    But, of course, this could only be a coincidence, right? Perhaps you would agree more readily if I simply said, "although we can never know for sure, the unemployment situation would probably have been even worse if the tax cuts weren't extended." That approach probably sounds more familiar to you.

  • GAS WOODS CROSS, UT
    Oct. 5, 2011 11:08 a.m.

    This White House is disingenuous about Obamas bill. No one has sponsored the bill in the House. It cannot be voted on until it becomes a House bill. Cantor, Boehner and the rest of the Republicans cannot stop a bill that does not exist. This fact seems to escape Ms. Werner. If this bill was meant to solve the problem, the dems would be lining up to sponsor it. It is just an Obama campaign ploy to help him to run against the evil Republicans in congress. He is not serious about fixing the economy or creating jobs. He wants to make the US into the socialist utopia of Europe and change our economy and success. He needs to be defeated. The solution stop the gridlock in congress is to replace every liberal dem with a conservative Republican who is not interested in his or her own power.

  • cheffy chef Holladay, UT
    Oct. 5, 2011 11:26 a.m.

    If giving tax breaks to rich people and giant profitable corporations created jobs we would have plenty of jobs. Let's let the "job creators" know it is time for the jobs in this country, then, give them the tax breaks.
    Republicans are suppose to be great buiness people but they do not get the most simple concerpt; revenue is needed to drive a capitolist economy. If 2% of the people have all of the money and do not spend it here. We lose. I'm tired of paying my taxes so rich people do not have to.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Oct. 5, 2011 11:28 a.m.

    thanks but no thanks Dems. Judging from the other "jems" you have produced in the past 3 years (Obamacare, Cap n trade, stimulus....) I just as soon wait 12 months until we get a new president and hopefully new GOP senate members who actually have the competency to write something that works!!! By then the "road block" called Obama will be history as well.

  • Brother Chuck Schroeder A Tropical Paradise USA, FL
    Oct. 5, 2011 11:55 a.m.

    Americans fed-up.

    Mitch McConnell moved to call the president's bluff again and again?.

    Will Mitch McConnell also call the bluff of the members of Occupy Wall Street to here?.

    It's people like Mitch McConnell that woke up a sleeping bear, and 99 percent of American's are now standing up, to get rid of fools like him, and, Take Back America.

    America belongs to "we the people", not these lifer's, that's been in Congress for the past several decades.

    The members of Occupy Wall Street may be as unwieldy, paradoxical, and inconsistent as those of us living in the real world. But that is precisely why their new approach to protest is more applicable, sustainable and actionable than what passes for politics today. They are suggesting that the fiscal operating system on which we are attempting to run our economy is no longer appropriate to the task. They mean to show that there is an inappropriate and correctable disconnect between the abundance America produces and the scarcity its markets manufacture. And in the process, they are pointing the way toward something entirely different than the zero-sum game of artificial scarcity favoring top-down investors and media makers alike.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Oct. 5, 2011 11:57 a.m.

    re:cheffy chef

    Revenue is produced by the private sector not the government and unfortunately Barack Obama being the inexperienced college professor that he is doesn't get it. The way you turn the engine of capitalism back on is to create an environment that is favorable for business to expand and hire which is the exact opposite of what we see today and that is why unemployment remains above 9%. Go ahead and tax your hated rich and see what happens - unemployment will rise even further and the small amount of extra revenue won't do squat for the economy. Maybe it will make you and your liberal friends happy - for a moment - to stick it to the rich but the majority of folks will suffer even more. The answer to a return to prosperity in America is simple - get a new president in 2012!!

  • Anti Bush-Obama Washington, DC
    Oct. 5, 2011 1:01 p.m.

    All they do in washington is create debt by stealing from us and other countries to make themselves and their corporate and offshore banking masters rich. If you expect them to do anything else, you will be waisting your time.

  • md Cache, UT
    Oct. 5, 2011 1:27 p.m.

    Unemployment continues to rise, because there is no incentive for those on unemployment to take a lesser job. They get 99 weeks of pay to do nothing. I think they should have to report to the local city or county public works and be asked to do odd jobs to be eligible for their check. I am dismayed at the number of people I have met who have told me that they aren't eager to go off of unemployment because they essentially get to sit and get a check while working jobs under the table for cash.

    Let's give people an incentive to get back to work.

  • CottageCheese SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Oct. 5, 2011 1:36 p.m.

    I am a recent college grad and I just can't wait to give my hard earned cash to those who have chosen not to work and sacrifice as I did.

    YAY!!!

  • ute alumni Tengoku, UT
    Oct. 5, 2011 1:36 p.m.

    libs aren't signing on to o's no go job bill? usually they just sign it and then they can find out what's in it. lefties are brilliant aren't they.

  • Hawkeye79 Iowa City, IA
    Oct. 5, 2011 1:49 p.m.

    @ Brother Chuck Schroeder | 11:55 a.m. Oct. 5, 2011

    You do realize that copying/pasting the words of another person and trying to pass them off as your own is called "plagiarism," don't you?

    Douglas Rushkoff would be disappointed that you lifted a full section from one of his latest articles without giving credit where credit is due.

  • FDRfan safety dictates, ID
    Oct. 5, 2011 2:16 p.m.

    I hope Mitt Romney has the good political sense to not oppose this bill. If he does he may gain some favor with the TP but will loose votes 10 to 1 or more.

  • morganh Orem, Utah
    Oct. 5, 2011 2:18 p.m.

    The Obama Administration says the rich are not paying their fair share. Protesters on Wall Street have signs that say "Tax the Rich". Well according to the latest tax data from the non partisan Tax Foundation The top 5% which constitutes an income above $159,000.00 paid over 58% of our income taxes. I am not rich by any means, but this sure points to me that the rich are paying more than their fair share.

  • Brother Chuck Schroeder A Tropical Paradise USA, FL
    Oct. 5, 2011 2:21 p.m.

    Re: Hawkeye79 - 1:49 p.m. Iowa City, IA
    @ Brother Chuck Schroeder | 11:55 a.m. Oct. 5, 2011

    Douglas Rushkoff would be disappointed, give credit where credit is due.

    Reply: How's this Hawkeye79 ?. DN said we can't have more than 200 words, so I only have room, for the points n truth's. My views. Where's the GOP jobs?. And bailouts here?. Douglas Rushkoff also said we can blame a right wing attempting to undermine labor, or a left wing trying to preserve unions in the face of government and corporate cutbacks. But the real culprit at least in this case is e-mail. People are sending 22% fewer pieces of mail than they did four years ago, opting for electronic bill payment and other net-enabled means of communication over envelopes and stamps. The U.S. Postal Service appears to be the latest casualty in digital technology's slow but steady replacement of working humans. Unless an external source of funding comes in, the post office will have to scale back its operations drastically, or simply shut down altogether. That's 600,000 people who would be out of work, and another 480,000 pensioners facing an adjustment in terms.

  • JoeBlow Miami Area, Fl
    Oct. 5, 2011 2:29 p.m.

    Too Funny Patriot

    "judging from the other "jems" you have produced in the past 3 years (Obamacare, Cap n trade, stimulus..."

    Lets look at these "jems"

    - Obamacare with its health care mandate was a GOP idea to combat Hillarycare

    - Cap n Trade was first introduced by the Reagan Administration

    - The first STIMULUS was signed by GW Bush.

    I just wish that you 1) knew the fact and 2) were consistent.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Oct. 5, 2011 2:36 p.m.

    Pagan,

    What has Obama done to earn your vote. What did he DO?

  • byu rugby Crystal Lake, IL
    Oct. 5, 2011 2:39 p.m.

    Dems are imploading! Obama can't get one Dem to sponsor his bill. The Dems can't support Obama because they will have no shot of reelection if they are seen standing too close to him. Obamacare and stimuluses 1 through 7 required all of the political capital the president and the Dems had. They are trying to coast into the next election on fumes.

    Hopefully, the media will finally admit that there is enough cover to actually cover the "Fast and Furious" and Salindra(spp?) scandals so, we can finally put this administration out of it's misery. But, unfortunately for us, Obama is good at deflecting blame for everything.

  • Fitness Freak Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 5, 2011 2:52 p.m.

    There's no need for Romney to even comment on the bill. Even Obama's OWN PARTY won't sponsor it!

    Wall street protestors have somehow gotten the idea that if the "rich" are taxed more, then they will have a job. Someone needs to explain to them that it doesn't work that way.
    If government collects MORE taxes, they just find other ways to WASTE the money. They SELDOM solve any problems with their extra funds!

  • peacemaker Provo, UT
    Oct. 5, 2011 3:07 p.m.

    Tax the millionaires = reduced spending equals new recession
    Tax the Oil and Gas companies = increased prices for gas to all Americans
    New Public job works = No jobs sustained after the spending = increase in unemployment in the future
    The big secret to more jobs is more money in the hands of the people, not the government.
    Margaret Thatcher: "The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money."

    Ronald Regan: "Government is the problem, not the solution"

  • Carnak Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 5, 2011 3:19 p.m.

    Obama may not have created any jobs, but he has organized a community (whatever that is).

  • Hawkeye79 Iowa City, IA
    Oct. 5, 2011 3:25 p.m.

    @ Brother Chuck Schroeder | 2:21 p.m. Oct. 5, 2011

    Funny - I never realized that word count restrictions were a justification for copying an entire paragraph from another work and trying to pass it off as your own. It smacks of academic dishonesty.

    Oh, and FYI the unemployment rate dropped nearly a half a percent once the Bush tax cuts were extended and have remained lower than they were last year. Coincidence?

  • Christy Beaverton, OR
    Oct. 5, 2011 3:53 p.m.

    I think the Bush tax cuts for the top 2% need to expire, as Obama plans. But I understand that $250,000 goes a lot farther in Salt Lake City or Portland, than in Manhattan, or Los Angeles. The bill being re-written to tax millionaires at an additional 5% is fine with me. This way, the Democrats can say the Republicans are either for the millionaires or for the rest of us.

    I don't agree at all with removing the part about closing loopholes for Big Business. Come on, Senator Landrieu, Exxon, Shell, and BP are among the top 10 richest companies in the WORLD. They can well afford to pay taxes.

    Of course this is a jobs bill. Repubs are just mad that Obama has the bully pulpit to promote it because he is the sitting President who happens to be running for another term.

  • Christy Beaverton, OR
    Oct. 5, 2011 4:39 p.m.

    peacemaker | 3:07 p.m. Oct. 5, 2011
    Provo, UT

    Ronald Regan [sic]: "Government is the problem, not the solution"

    ==============

    Ronald Reagan: ‎"We're going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that have allowed some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable but in practice, they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing while a bus driver was paying 10% of his salary, and that's just crazy."

    It's not just Presidents Reagan and Obama...

    73% of Americans, including 66% of Republicans support making millionaires pay their fair share.

  • riddlemethis Clearfield, UT
    Oct. 5, 2011 4:40 p.m.

    If elections were held today, Obama wouldn't even be able to save his own job (or create a second term for himself).

    Comrade Chuck Schroeder-

    Not only are you dishonest like the dems, you use the same excuses for getting caught as they do.

  • peacemaker Provo, UT
    Oct. 5, 2011 5:12 p.m.

    Christy
    Ronald Regan took care of the problem in the 80's. What's up with the new proposal?

  • Mick Murray, Utah
    Oct. 5, 2011 5:24 p.m.

    Christy-

    Everyone agrees with doing away with tax loopholes. Are you a Herman Cain Fan? Do you like his 9-9-9 budget plan. A brilliant way to do away with tax loop holes.

    Pagan-

    It is not the responsibility of the US Government to make jobs. They need to get out of the way. In order to create jobs they have to take money from others. It is legalized plunder. And that has really worked for the US citizens and the employees of selyndra. 500 million lost and 1000 jobs lost. A great example of the the poor decision making abilites of community orgainzers when it comes to business.

  • DavisMan Clearfield, UT
    Oct. 5, 2011 5:44 p.m.

    The request was blocked by Reid, who called it a "political stunt". On who's part, the Republicans . or President Obama?

  • peter Alpine, UT
    Oct. 5, 2011 6:58 p.m.

    Time's running out for Obama. His "jobs" bill is nothing more than desperate political jockeying to try and shift the public's attention away from his own failed policies and positions. It just won't work, now or ever. And we will not forget who in Congress helped him ramrod his out-of-control spending into action during his first two years in office. And, please, don't argue that Bush was the cause of all this. Let's pull the plug on Washington in 2012!

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Oct. 5, 2011 7:29 p.m.

    re:JoeBlow

    Nice try Joe. Let me clear up your confusion..

    1. Obamacare with its health care mandate was a GOP idea to combat Hillarycare

    HA!! Who told you this one?? The GOP has NEVER EVER propsed a health care mandate bill at the federal level. NEVER!! Better

    - Cap n Trade was first introduced by the Reagan Administration

    - The first STIMULUS was signed by GW Bush.

  • A1994 Centerville, UT
    Oct. 5, 2011 7:43 p.m.

    So here's are some questions that no democrat seems to be able to answer:
    1) If this jobs/stimulus package is going to do the trick, why didn't the last one when we spent twice as much?

    2) When Obama says 'the rich' who do you think he's talking about?

    3) Once the money is spent and these 'shovel ready' jobs are complete, then what?

    It's one thing to make a job. It's quite another to create an environment where business can grow. And with growth comes jobs. Obama's plan doesn't grow the economy. He is redistributing money from 'the rich' (real job creators) to the government who can then hire workers to do a job.

    This is like the Rocky and Bullwinkle show:

    Bullwinkle: "Hey Rocky, watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat!"
    Rocky: "Again? But that trick never works."
    Bullwinkle: "This time for sure!"

    This is what happens when you elect someone without doing some research. This guy is WAY in over his head.

  • JoeBlow Miami Area, Fl
    Oct. 5, 2011 8:36 p.m.

    Patriot writes

    "The GOP has NEVER EVER propsed a health care mandate bill at the federal level. NEVER!!"

    Well, you may want to google the following article headline from FOX NEWS, March 27, 2010

    "Republicans Hatched Idea for Obama's Health Insurance Mandate"

    Excerpt from the article -
    "The obligation in the new health care law is a Republican idea that's been around at least two decades. It was once trumpeted as an alternative to Bill and Hillary Clinton's failed health care overhaul in the 1990s. These days, Republicans call it government overreach."

    Crow anyone?

  • Christy Beaverton, OR
    Oct. 5, 2011 9:51 p.m.

    @ Mick,

    No, I am absolutely not a Cain fan. I was indifferent about him until today when I heard him say that if you are out of a job and not rich, it's your own fault. Tell that to my husband who was laid off after 20 years when a new company took over. It's callous and out of touch to say something so sweeping, but par for the GOP.

    Also, Cain's 9-9-9 plan would raise taxes on the people who can least afford it.

    He's a joke and I can't wait until his 15 minutes are up.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Oct. 6, 2011 8:24 a.m.

    If the rich are taxed more, would it go to reducing the debt, or more spending?

  • Ecclesiastes 10:2 PROVO, UT
    Oct. 6, 2011 8:42 a.m.

    Christy in Beaverton - So, was your husband on his way to being rich BEFORE he lost his job? If not, he was on the wrong track anyway. Did he just give up after 20 years or did he go out and find something else to do to make himself rich? Look at the LEGAL immigrants from Asia and Mexico/South America who come here destitute and become wealthy, self-made businessmen and women over a period of years. If they can do it, why can't your husband?

    Cain is not my candidate, either. But, he's right on the money when it comes to our potential for wealth creation in America.

    If we don't coddle and support losers in the GOP, we're callous and out of touch. When I'm down, I prefer a swift kick in the butt, rather than a handout from the government.

  • NotBuyingIt MIDVALE, UT
    Oct. 6, 2011 9:36 a.m.

    Why on earth do we need another jobs bill? Obama's multi-trillion dollar "stimulus" program was going to create millions of "shovel ready" jobs, remember? Oh, wait. That's right. I forgot. The stimulus program was an epic failure. The only thing it created was a couple trillion dollars of additional debt. And this nonsense is just more of the same. It isn't about jobs. It's about buying votes with the taxpayer's money.

  • NotBuyingIt MIDVALE, UT
    Oct. 6, 2011 9:42 a.m.

    Pagan - Government cannot create jobs. They have no money. All they can do is transfer them from the private sector to the public sector through taxation and squander a whole lot of money to waste, fraud, bureaucracy, inefficiency, corruption, etc. etc. etc. in the process. I guess you haven't heard the near unanimous conclusion from economists that Obama's trillion dollar stimulus was a near total failure......

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Oct. 6, 2011 9:56 a.m.

    When I see the reaction to this article and the process in DC, it is not really much different than the legislature making boundaries for districts. Only it is a different party in partial control. That is what is beautiful about our country's Constitution and it's processes to protect people. We have elections and a court process to protect citizens against tyrants that periodically can surface. After living in a variety of countries and seeing their process of government, we are so blessed to have our system. Is it perfect. Not perfect but much better than anywhere else. Some have constitutions that may sound or appear to be similar but due to the people that get elected and the people that vote or how they are allowed to vote is a big difference. When you go to a polling place in some countries, they have army or police around questioning how you vote. We have low numbers going to the polls and if people were more involved we would have elected officials who would care more about what they do. In our neighborhood the number of people at the caucus last time was 4-5 times more than before.

  • NotBuyingIt MIDVALE, UT
    Oct. 6, 2011 10:04 a.m.

    Obama's plan to tax "the rich" is indeed class warfare. It certainly is not a solution to any problem. According to figures from the IRS and published in the Wall Street Journal, if we taxed all incomes of $100,000 or more at 100%, it would produce revenues of $3.4 trillion. A large chunk of change for sure, but still some $300 billion LESS than Obama's $3.7 trillion budget. The problem is, and always has been, out-of-control spending on the part of the federal government, which now exceeds 25% of the total economy. Which is the highest level of government spending since the end of World War II. The fact is, given the opportunity, Barack Obama, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi would keeping spending money until they ran out of paper to print it on.

  • TheProudDuck Newport Beach, CA
    Oct. 6, 2011 12:25 p.m.

    Seems that Democrats in blue states know that $200,000 in a high-cost-of-living state doesn't make you rich enough to qualify as a genuine Class Enemy.

    I think we should start with a 50% surtax on Hollywood actors, producers, directors, etc. Since the Democrats aren't even pretending to be for the common good anymore -- just out for their constituencies -- let's take a page out of their playbook and do some looting of *their* constituencies.

  • homebrew South Jordan, UT
    Oct. 6, 2011 1:31 p.m.

    Obama's approval rating is around 40%. One reason is that he hasnt fixed George Bush's mess. He really cant do it without help from the GOP and they sure arent going to help. Congress's approval rating is less than 10% The Gop won gains in 2010 but havent done Anything. America is sick of the obstruction in washington and will hold the GOP accountable in 2012. 75% of americans agree with Obama on raising taxes on the rich and eliminating the Bush tax cuts that bankrupted our nation. Republicans talk alot, they complain alot but they NEVER do anything. If you look at what Obama has accomplished, basicaly with NO GOP help, its pretty remarkable. Obama will win in 2012, because he is trying to fix the mess left him By G.W. Bush. And america knows, that the GOP is doing nothing.

  • Millsap fan Taylorsville, UT
    Oct. 6, 2011 2:01 p.m.

    There needs to be drastic changes to unemployment, disability, welfare, social security, all of it! Government handouts don't help the country!

    Why is it that a single mother, waiting tables can't get help from the government unless she quits her job, sits around all day and does nothing, but as soon as she contributes to society her assistance is cut off?

    Why is it that I know people who use food stamps for energy drinks and video games?

    How come half my neighbors who are perfectly capable of working get disability and sit on their porch all day and watch the world pass them by?

    Why doesn't the government seek to change all of it? It's wrong.