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BYU, Utah State football: Cougars rally for 27-24 victory over Aggies behind Riley Nelson

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  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 6:07 p.m.

    Seriously, Cougars. Caught in a shift and give up a touchdown on the first play. Will BYU fire its Defensive Coordinator if they lose?

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 6:25 p.m.

    This BYU team is not well coached.

  • JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt Beverly Hills, CA
    Sept. 30, 2011 6:26 p.m.

    Nice job by Apo to get the flag by grabbing his leg like a soccer player after getting hit in the shoulder.

  • sneekee23 Herriman, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 6:40 p.m.

    That was absolutely, positively, the worst call I have ever seen. It's called football, you know tackle football. I guess maybe ESPN has put the word out, that we need to help BYU in any way possible to justify the miserable contract they signed with the Y a few months ago.

  • JP Chandler, AZ
    Sept. 30, 2011 6:42 p.m.

    Nice run Riley, but what's with the hair? You obviously haven't been to the Testing Center recently.

  • Osgrath Provo, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 7:11 p.m.

    What does Riley's hair have to do with the game. For that matter, why would it cause him trouble with the testing center - it doesn't cover his ears or touch his collar. For that matter, what business is it of yours. This blog is about the game not about your opinions about BYU and its honor code.

  • JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt Beverly Hills, CA
    Sept. 30, 2011 7:25 p.m.

    "JP | 6:42 p.m. Sept. 30, 2011
    Chandler, AZ
    Nice run Riley, but what's with the hair? You obviously haven't been to the Testing Center recently"

    This is why I won't ever send any of my family to BYU. Even though he isn't breaking the honor code other people deem it fit to publicly accuse him of it.

    USU scores as BYU cannot contain the freshman quarterback on the run. USU isn't intimidated.

  • rickski13 salt lake city, utah
    Sept. 30, 2011 7:42 p.m.

    does byu think their is a penalty committed on every play against them?

  • Keisels Beard Overton, NV
    Sept. 30, 2011 7:47 p.m.

    5 touchdowns on 14 red-zone appearances by BYU this year. Maybe it's due to things like, oh, I don't know, two straight pass plays when you have 2nd and two?

    Your line ways over 1200 pounds. Add in a tight end or two, and you can push it up over 1500. Line up, push the defense back, and pick up a couple of yards.

    If you can't figure that out, fire the offensive coordinator. Stop trying to get cute.

  • GoRed WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 7:49 p.m.

    How is it that the hit on Apo not only gets a penalty, but also the USU player gets ejected---Yet when the BYU player hit Utah's Christopher in an even harder helmet-to-helmet hit, nothing is called?

    Sometimes BYU's home cooking to too painful to watch.

  • rickski13 salt lake city, utah
    Sept. 30, 2011 7:50 p.m.

    Dear brandon what game are you watching? apo sat out a couple of plays not a couple of series

  • JP Chandler, AZ
    Sept. 30, 2011 7:51 p.m.

    @everybody that commented after me. I didn't intent it to be a slam on Riley, but more of a slam on the testing center. My little bro' was often turned away at the testing center for having his hair almost as long as Riley's is.

    Back to the game: I'm glad to see BYU is moving the ball on offense. Heaps is still throwing bullets past some of his receivers, but he seams to be settling down a little. The defense seems determined to make up for that early error and have been making a lot of hard hits.

    The most impressive player on the field has gotta be Chuckie Keeton.

  • Utah_State_Fan Logan, Utah
    Sept. 30, 2011 7:54 p.m.

    Both teams are playing well, should be a good one...........Go Aggies!
    As long as they don't kick out anymore of our players ha ha.......

  • Duckhunted highland, utah
    Sept. 30, 2011 8:11 p.m.

    wow cougars

  • billybubba South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 8:12 p.m.

    @ go red

    cant blame BYU for the lack of a call it was pac whatever refs

  • Fred Vader Oklahoma City, OK
    Sept. 30, 2011 8:23 p.m.

    That's the difference between BYU football and BCS football, a BCS football coach would know when to pull a struggling quarterback. Yes, the receivers haven't helped much, but BCS QB's know how to inspire their receivers, Heaps doesn't. If anyone can get this message to Doman or Bronco...tell them to bench Heaps!

  • Fred Vader Oklahoma City, OK
    Sept. 30, 2011 8:26 p.m.

    A Big Thank You to who ever delivered my message!

  • niners SAINT GEORGE, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 8:35 p.m.

    Dang! as a Ute fan I do not even feel good about our 44 point win over BYU:( I am starting to get worried about tomorrows game vs Washington now.

  • rickski13 salt lake city, utah
    Sept. 30, 2011 8:35 p.m.

    is byu the 3rd best football in the state of utah?

  • SoCalUtahFan Uteville, CA
    Sept. 30, 2011 8:38 p.m.

    @kski13

    ...is byu the 3rd best football in the state of utah? ...

    I asked Ron McBride and he said no

  • billybubba South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 8:51 p.m.

    I didnt need to ask it looks more like the 6th best team behind LP and bingham

  • TheAtheist slc, u
    Sept. 30, 2011 8:52 p.m.

    I have a new found respect for Utah State.

  • Wally West SLC, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 8:53 p.m.

    re: SoCalUtahFan | 8:38 p.m. Sept. 30, 2011

    I wonder what a certain institution in Cedar City has to say?

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 8:56 p.m.

    Socalute,
    That's funny right there. I don't care who you are. That right there was funny!

  • FYI Taylorsville, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:00 p.m.

    Is Riley Nelson growing his hair for a special reason? I'm not being rude, just pretty sure that his hair length is not within BYU grooming standards.

  • Fred Vader Oklahoma City, OK
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:01 p.m.

    Hey, we sure appreciate all U little brothers showing up to watch you Big Cougar Brothers!

  • Osgrath Provo, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:02 p.m.

    Here's a good lesson a on sticking to what you believe in and what you want. It may have as much do to with the change and the surge of adrenalin that comes from finally getting his chance, but Riley is certainly stepping up here. Another successful drive and we may have a new starter.

    If so we would have to conclude that Jake just hasn't reached the level of maturity he needs to lead the team: the tools are there, but the mindset lacks. Give him some time and he may become a good quarterback, but what we are seeing here tells us he is not there yet.

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:03 p.m.

    You score a TD to go down by 5. What do you do, kick the point? NO. If you make it, you are down a td.

    you go for TWO. Make it, you are down a FG. miss, you are STILL down a td if the aggies score a FG you are still down a TD and a 2 point conversion.

    bronco is a horrible in-game coach.

  • rickski13 salt lake city, utah
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:04 p.m.

    if byu thinks they are big brother can they be the 3rd best football team in utah?

  • SoCalUtahFan Uteville, CA
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:04 p.m.

    @Fred Vader

    My local highschool football is not play today.
    So I watch HS football on ESPN.

  • JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt Beverly Hills, CA
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:08 p.m.

    BYU fumbles...again, why does that sound familiar?

  • Fred Vader Oklahoma City, OK
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:15 p.m.

    Socalute: hey no prob. I get it. Your HS Utes don't play until tomorrow night. We welcome U to ESPN!

  • Fred Vader Oklahoma City, OK
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:18 p.m.

    TOUCHDOWN! Can U believe it!

  • flatlander Omaha, NE
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:22 p.m.

    Heaps should never play another snap again. What kind of coaches would play Heaps like they did. They lost the two earlier games by playing the wrong quarterback

  • JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt Beverly Hills, CA
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:23 p.m.

    Wow, good job BYU, you blew out the mighty USU by a huge margin of 3 points. You are well on the way to the BCS and a conference championship.

    How sad, BYU fan is running onto the field, for beating USU, that says a lot about the state of BYU.

  • SoCalUtahFan Uteville, CA
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:23 p.m.

    It was funny to watch 2 USU QB playing again each other.

    BYU should stay with Riley last year.

  • rickski13 salt lake city, utah
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:23 p.m.

    wow byu fans storming the field for beating a wac team?

  • bluemoon1977 Provo, Utah
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:24 p.m.

    For Riley Nelson, magic happens. The storied comebacks continue.

    To quote Al Michaels: Do you believe in miracles?

  • JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt Beverly Hills, CA
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:24 p.m.

    I wonder how many hypocritical fans who were criticizing Nelson's hair will now embrace him because he won. Honor code alert BYU, honor code alert?

  • Big Hapa Kaysville, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:25 p.m.

    AGGIES LOSS TO MAN RILEY !

  • pele Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:26 p.m.

    Have the cougars dropped so low that their fans rush the field after a win against Utah state?

  • aggie bob Logan, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:27 p.m.

    USU has got some bad voodoo. BYU won that on luck and there's no way you can deny it.

  • In Stitches Provo, Utah
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:27 p.m.

    Can we give Nelson the job on a permanent basis? He is F-U-N to watch!!!!

  • Keisels Beard Overton, NV
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:27 p.m.

    If Riley doesn't start the next game, maybe Holmoe should start looking for a new head coach.

    You just don't beat yourself; on the field or off. That's why Crowton was sent packing: his teams kept beating themselves on and off the field. Bronco seems to have the off field issues in check, but I'm not sure he is doing a good enough job keeping his team focused on the field. It's not just about winning and losing. If they lose an get beat, fine. But they are beating themselves. Not measuring up to the best you can be is definitely not in line with what BYU and the Church are about.

    No disrespect to Utah State, who played very well. But BYU was beating themselves in this game until they pulled it out at the end. As the Utah St. guy said on the ESPN gamecast: BYU dominated the first half, yet were still losing. That's beating yourself.

    Fix it Bronco, or go look for another job.

  • SoCalUtahFan Uteville, CA
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:28 p.m.

    Ron McBride wants to play BYU next Friday.

  • Captain Caveman Provo, Utah
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:30 p.m.

    It's funny to read the bitterly disappointed Utesies trying to slag BYU for getting the victory against the Aggies. They conveniently forget that the Aggies just about upset Auburn too.

    Great job by Nelson for breathing life into the Offense. Hapa, bro, you were right all along! Glad to see Doman have the courage to pull the plug on Heaps!

  • GoRed WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:30 p.m.

    I remember BYU fans making fun of Utah fans for storming the field when Utah came from behind to beat then-Pac 10 member Oregon State during their 2008 perfect season.

    Yet, we now have BYU fans storming the field after BYU comes from behind to beat Utah State of the WAC, on a fluke play, no less.

    My, how BYU's program has fallen.

  • Fred Vader Oklahoma City, OK
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:30 p.m.

    Have Ute fans dropped so low that they complain about BYU during a game they are not involved in?

  • Jeff R. Sheridan, WY
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:31 p.m.

    Thank you Riley Nelson, Thank You. You just earned a starting job as QB for BYU. Heaps, you gave your all, but you need another year to work on your timing. Congrats BYU, USU you had them pinned at their 2 yard line, and couldnt finish it, great game, your QB is a stud and will be fun to watch in the coming games and years. Good Win, ugly win, but a win. Fun to watch, I have to go take my meds now!

  • niners SAINT GEORGE, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:31 p.m.

    @ flatlander

    You are telling me Riley is so good he could have overcame a 44 point loss? Wow, won't be too soon before BYU fans start claiming Riley as the next heisman trophy winner...

  • NevadaCoug Overton, NV
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:31 p.m.

    Good grief, didn't the Ute fans rush the field after beating lowly BYU last season? Yet the trolls are excoriating BYU fans for celebrating after a last minute drive to avenge last season's loss to this same Aggie team?

    One word: hypocrisy

  • manutd Milford, CT
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:32 p.m.

    embarassing that our fans rush the field after we beat utah state. how times have changed.

    riley nelson is a football player. heaps just isn't tough enough for the game right now, physically/mentally. but he can still bounce back i hope.

  • rickski13 salt lake city, utah
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:32 p.m.

    bronco spent alot longer with gary anderson after the game then the weak handshake he give kwitt. nice winner nice moment riley nelson seeking out gary anderson i guess he said i am glad i transfered too byu

  • Ironmomo Ogden, Utah
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:33 p.m.

    I wonder if Bronco will make the statement "I don't think the best team won tonight" during his press conference?

  • Osgrath Provo, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:33 p.m.

    Fun times! You gotta love a game that comes down to the last seconds, especially when your team has to come from behind. Riley goes 10-14 for 144 yards and picked up amazing first downs with his feet. Furthermore, he seems to have energized the whole offense - everybody looked more focused and inspired. That is leadership, a quality of heart, not arm strength.

  • Ronnie W. Layton, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:33 p.m.

    Aggie lose another in clutch. Painful. While I congratulate the Cougars they have to keep in mind it's only Utah State. A lot of BYU graduates always consider that their school is better than everyone else. I think BYU may be a great school but their attitude is a big turn off for a lot of non-Mormons.

  • runnerguy50 Virginia Beach, Va
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:34 p.m.

    Bronco had better not start Heaps next game. If he threatens to walk, show him the door.

  • armchairQBonthehill Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:35 p.m.

    Early on I thought this game would be the demise of Brandon Doman (like Jaime Hill last year). But now the Aggies need to fire somebody - - epic collapse (s) are becoming the norm for the team from Logan. Gotta feel bad for Coach Anderson and the players, but some changes are definitely in order somewhere in the Aggie locker room.

  • MidMajor4ever Syracuse, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:35 p.m.

    BYU fans storm the field in their come from behind Mid-Major Bowl win over Utah State!

  • SportsFan101 Bountiful, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:36 p.m.

    Hey, good luck Cougs. I still really dislike all of ya, but your team definitely pulled this one off ;) My Aggies continue to choke like nobody has choked before. And if you want some more success..Bag Heaps and stick with Nielsen! Good luck with the rest of the season.

  • Hank Pym SLC, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:36 p.m.

    @ aggie bob | 9:27 p.m. Sept. 30, 2011

    Its better to be lucky than good and tonight proved it.

    @ Captain Caveman | 9:30 p.m. Sept. 30, 2011

    54-10 ring any bells?

  • Robert Rexburg, ID
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:37 p.m.

    FINALLY! Heaps is on the sidelines where he belongs, and BYU wins!

  • Pipes Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:37 p.m.

    After 23 quarters, Bronco and Brandon finally realize that Heaps is all hype. Tonight BYU proved that sometimes it's better to be lucky than good. They definitely were not good. The defense is soft. The offense is, well we all know how bad they have been. At least now they know how to score in the crunch, keep Heaps on the bench.

  • Carnak Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:38 p.m.

    Who cares who storms the field and who doesn't. Nice win by BYU after USU goes way too conservative.

    Heaps should be done.

  • KamUte South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:38 p.m.

    A win is a win. It was ugly. Congrats. Heaps may not be the man anymore.

  • MidMajor4ever Syracuse, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:38 p.m.

    Has the honor code changed? Nelson's hair and Luigi's language certainly tarnishes the desired image....

    Nice Mid-Major Bowl win!

  • Utah_State_Fan Logan, Utah
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:39 p.m.

    Gotta love that potty mouth luigi.......way to represent on national tv......

  • Laser Iowa City, IA
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:40 p.m.

    No way!! Awesome!! Way to go Cougars!!! Nelson was gritty and tough. Man, this is going as a night of BYU magic. You can't explain, but you saw it with your own eyes.

  • Hank Pym SLC, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:42 p.m.

    @ Fred Vader | 9:30 p.m. & NevadaCoug | 9:31 p.m.

    3 words: Pot. Kettle. Black.

  • srh83 Hillsboro, OR
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:45 p.m.

    Let me remind my Ute fan friends that this game was between BYU and Utah State. Your obsessive hatred toward BYU is just silly.

    Great game Cougs! The Aggies are the real deal. Sure they struggle at the end of games, but you can't deny that they have a good team. Turbin is a beast and Keaton will be an amazing QB for the Aggies.

  • D'Anconia Providence, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:46 p.m.

    Ouch! Sorry Aggie fans. That has to hurt. USU was the better team tonight.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:46 p.m.

    Best two teams in Utah. USU, best 1-3 team in the country.

  • JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt Beverly Hills, CA
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:49 p.m.

    No tearing down the goalpost Cougar fan? Oh, that is beneath you?

    When you wake up tomorrow BYU fan, remember this, you beat a WAC team by 3 and you may have found a better QB but you still have the same porous defense. Don't let that keep you up at night.

  • dden45 Provo, Utah
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:49 p.m.

    Any Ute fan posting on here right now is clearly not a Ute fan at all, just a BYU hater. Why should any Ute fan even care?

    And I said it all last year, Nelson should have been the starter, he makes plays happen. He had way more experience, and Heaps wasn't ready. Too many people bought into the Heaps hype way early. He just needs some time to learn OFF the field, work on timing and aim.

  • D'Anconia Providence, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:49 p.m.

    Why stop at Utah worf? I thinks it's time to start talking about a national champion ship! Too funny.

  • don17 Temecula, CA
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:51 p.m.

    Wow, Maybe BYU won't have to be a second half team after this week? Four Quarter team? It is hoped for! Utah game they were a no quarter team:but then again buttered corn on the cob before the game doesn't help!Remember there is no quarterback issue at BYU. "Heaps is my Quarterback!"B.M. By the way does anyone know Riley's Quarterback rating?

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:51 p.m.

    Sports Nutss
    Well I'll be waiting for ya. But I won't stoop to the level of pathetic utes fans or some Aggies fan(D'Anconia, Utah_State_Fan) talking sillyness like potty mouths and kick USU while they are down. This was a hard fought game. Now I know that Turbin is a stud. But right now USU is not the better team. BYU still has a lot to work on and now with Heaps hopefully sitting the bench and learning from Riley we will see some real progress.

  • butters Salt Lake city, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:54 p.m.

    again. 2006 has taught gary anderson nothing.

  • manutd Milford, CT
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:54 p.m.

    i love how people are spinning the issue with rileys hair. which by the way is what byu needs. something different.

    first its "i can't believe how stupid the honor code is", then its "i can't believe you don't enforce the honor code". which one is it. you can't have it both ways. anything to hate.

  • niners SAINT GEORGE, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:54 p.m.

    @ worf

    Yep best 2 teams in Utah, although I did watch a team from Cedar last week that looked like it might beat both the teams I saw tonight. Keep repeating that though, I hope it comes true for you. Sounds like you need it more than I do...

  • Duh west jordan, ut
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:55 p.m.

    aggie bob

    Your right. I will take a lucky win over a loss any day. Ask Utah State how they feel about that.

  • Honestly?Really? Hurricane, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:58 p.m.

    I love how the Utes shellacked BYU and they have the nerve to comment on bad calls... Give it a rest RED... The better team lost tonight and that's coming from a die hard coug fan... But still I'll take it. Go Cougs!!!!

  • Dr Rush Saint George, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:00 p.m.

    Well they finally replace Heaps,way way over due,BUT they replaced him with the second best QB on the team,what has James Lark done to deserve the treatment he's getting?? He should have taken one of the offers he got from Arizona or UCLA and bypassed BYU when he came back from his mission.Nelson is much better than Heaps but Lark is the best QB.

  • Duh west jordan, ut
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:01 p.m.

    It is always sad when there is hate on every posting that goes up on DESNEWS. I don't hate Utah, I don't hate Utah State, I just love good football. We didn't get a good football game against Utah but we got a good win against Utah State. Great came, kudos to Utah State. Yes they were the better team just like they were against Auburn and Colorado State unfortunately, it does not matter how many yards you get or how many recptions you make, the only thing that matters is the final score. Thanks to both teams for a great game. Now, Utah State go kick the WAC in the best fashion possible and get to a bowl game this year.

  • Pugman TREMONTON, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:02 p.m.

    These are the things that teams have a hard time coming back from. The Aggies still have conference play, and lets not forget the 5th best rushing team in the nation. A great game, fun to watch. And from a guy who's watched a lot of football and seen lots of teams come back, I for the life of me will never figure out the hate the the disparaging remarks that come out of peoples mouths. Why are the Ute fans on here talking trash? Go to bed and go to the game tommorrow to cheer your team on. Why does it tick you people off so much to see our in state teams do well. It was an in state game, someone had to lose. BYU earned it. They never quit. A change was made that paid off. And they had to go 96 yards in basically 2 minutes. If you can't hold the lead and stop a team from going 96 yards in 2 minutes....I'm not sure you deserve to win.

  • rickski13 salt lake city, utah
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:02 p.m.

    nevadacoug hypocricy? didn't byu fans rushed the field after senior max hall beat a freshman qb jordon wynn in ot the last time byu beat utah. since the 2010
    game all i have heard was jake heaps was the real deal and jordon wynn was a substandard qb how things have change

  • Hawkeye79 Iowa City, IA
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:02 p.m.

    Great comeback win by the Cougars. They showed a lot of grit in the fourth quarter and earned this one. Still, I can't help but chuckle at a couple of trends I have noticed on this comment board:

    1) Much speculation as to what BYU fans think. I haven't heard a word of criticism about Nelson's hair or speculation that he will win the Heisman out of BYU fans...only from others. So many assumptions...so many straw man arguments.

    2) The speed with which Utah fans comment on BYU articles. I'm sure that BYU and ESPN are thankful for the attention you pay them. At least you can watch one of your state's teams play regularly on an accessible channel, right?

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:03 p.m.

    JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt,

    Utah football is superior to California.

  • Wally West SLC, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:03 p.m.

    @ dden45 | 9:49 p.m. Sept. 30, 2011

    I don't care. I just like pushing the button of BYU fans.

    Its cathartic, therapuetic, & fun!

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:03 p.m.

    niners, D'acniciaa, johnjacobdrrrrr...

    ahahaha such petty little BYU haters, can't wait for the Utesies to lose their first PAC game tomorrow.

  • Salt lake teams rule Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:05 p.m.

    From a utah fan: you gotta feel for the aggies. Stop saying it was "just utah state." anderson has those boys flying around. They may win out, they're due some major karma.

    Good win for the Y against a quality opponent. Riley is way better than heaps, wish he would have transferred to us. We have a coach that would recognize the better player. Heaps would probably move to long snapper or something. Maybe he can toss it through his lega more accurately?

  • Rock Of The Marne Phoenix, AZ
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:06 p.m.

    As an Aggie and Ute I can defiantly say the better team did not win tonight. Nice rushing the field when you beat us; oh the mighty have fallen when they rush the field after a come from behind win over a 1 win team.

    Bronco may the right move on the QB switch. You could tell the other Y players were more amped with traitor Riley in there vs. Heaps.

  • USAlover Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:07 p.m.

    Ute fan, Cougar fan, Aggie fan....doesn't matter. You have to admit that Riley Nelson just pulled off something amazing.

    And to do it against his former team takes some moxie. I would choose heart over talent at this point. It's obvious Nelson is a better leader,

    Heaps might want to transfer after this year. The poor kid has zero confidence and he has talked too much. Wish him the best.

  • Uteology Fort Worth, Texas
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:07 p.m.

    SportsFan101 | 9:36 p.m. Sept. 30, 2011
    My Aggies continue to choke like nobody has choked before.

    ----------- ----------------

    Um, how about the Boston Redsox??

    Unlike the Redsox Utah State still hasn't learned how to win.

    You guys have a good future, good luck.

  • D'Anconia Providence, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:08 p.m.

    I'm a Utah fan but I live in Cache County and support the Aggies as well. I will not comment on another BYU game/article this year. There just isn't any interest for me in your team. Enjoy the rest of your season.

    I'm sure there won't be any BYU fans posting on the Utah game tomorrow, as classy as you all are.

    As a Ute I'm now very concerned about where my team stands right now. The 54-10 blowout doesn't look that good at all after what I've seen from BYU. Washington might expose a lot of weaknesses in the Utes tomorrow. We will have to wait and see.

  • byufootballrocks Herndon, VA
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:09 p.m.

    Great finish. Riley really "brought it."

    I was so frustrated when we changed quarterbacks.

    For three drives in a row we played, run, run, and dink and dunk, which didn't help Jake Heaps at all.

    The last drive at the end of the 3rd quarter had the most questionable play calling.

  • Pipes Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:09 p.m.

    Diluigi needed to swing that helmet a little harder! How many times has this kid coughed up the football at critical times? Too soft. Tippy toes, can't hold on to the ball. Put him in the slot and make a receiver out of him but quit letting him give the other team the ball.

  • Cougars - Wise Older Brothers Anaheim, CA
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:11 p.m.

    MidMajor4ever

    There's nothing more pathetic than a bitter, jealous little brother whining about his older brother engineering a 96-yard scoring drive in the last 2:30 of a game to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat.

    btw, remind us once again the score of the last mid-major bowl the Utes played in against a WAC team.

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:11 p.m.

    "embarassing that our fans rush the field after we beat utah state. how times have changed. "

    Monkey see, Monkey do. Notice not very many fans were there. Maybe 200. I think it was such an emotional game that people were so happy to win. It's also a sign of respect to USUs team. USU always does that even when they beat a BYU/UT team with a losing record. They are the kings of those lame things, so don't blame BYU.

    Still, I just wanna say that I'm so sick of hearing all of USU classless fans rant and rave forever. Glad to silence them for a while. This win feels great! BYU is 3-2, with the only real threats left being TCU and Hawai'i. They survived their gauntlet. 9-3, 8-4 will be the worst this team gets. May be the best record in the state by the end.

    Ah, time to sleep well and enjoy a great conference!

  • ClarkHippo Tooele, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:13 p.m.

    Yesterday I read comment after comment from BYU haters promising the Aggies would roll the Cougars. Instead, BYU pulls off the comeback win.

    And what's your response?

    -Complaining about Cougar fans storming the field after a beating a WAC team (A team which I remind you again, you predicted would roll BYU)

    -Making fun of Riley Nelson's hair (Couldn't care less about his hair, the guy just won the starting QB job)

    -Saying the Cougars got lucky (But again, you predicted the Aggies would roll BYU. Had to have been more than luck)

    I'm surprised none of you BYU haters have blamed the refs yet. I suppose that will be coming shortly.

  • Big Daddy Utah SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:13 p.m.

    Did you folks notice the add on page three of the comments, PRICELESS.

  • Boo Ya!!! SLC, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:14 p.m.

    I love my Aggies!!! The 3 things I'll take away tonight is:

    1) Took an Ex-Aggie player to start the comeback.

    2) Cougar Stadium is named after an AGGIE football player

    and

    3) I never have to read (without a huge gut laugh) a comment on the blogs about USU fans storming the court!!! Kitties storming the field after beating Utah State!!! THAT was a classic!!! You stormed the field on a team that's 1-3.

    NICE!!!!

  • dden45 Provo, Utah
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:18 p.m.

    @jarka-us

    You mean second PAC loss, they already got taken down by USC.

  • HS Sport Dude South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:20 p.m.

    Coach Anderson....We saw it at Utah and we are now seeing it at Utah State. You get a 4th QTR lead and try to hang on. You play "not to lose" instead of trying to extend the lead. The final series your offese ran was a sign of this. Playing soft defense for 96 yards is anothe sign of the this.

    It does not work to sit back in coverage (deep converage) and let the other tema get 15-20 yard plays right down to the 10 yard line. You would think you would learn. Please play to win. The two point conversion thing and you thinking you do play to win and trying to change a culture is just not true. You should have never been in OT in that game.

  • #1UtahSportsFan WEST JORDAN, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:23 p.m.

    Wow-Utah State didn't learn a thing from the Auburn loss-so, so, disappointing. Soft zone defense-the so called "prevent" defense really only prevents you from winning. Especially when your secondary can't cover anyone. You have a team on the ropes with a back-up quarterback at the helm and you can't cover anyone anyway-why not pin your ears back and send everyone on almost every play? Let your guys chase the quarterback and at least give the safeties and corners something productive to do instead of getting beat like a drum-you already know they can't cover anyone anyway-so send them! Your opponent is staring at losing to you @ home for the first time since 1978, they are nervous anyway because they have not been playing well-tell me they won't be tight as they think about those things. But, no, you allow them to breathe-it's simply unbelievable. Utah State has the best collegiate quarterback in the state and a running game that can compete with anyone-including the SEC. But, they can't finish-too bad, because the Fresh QB will leave like Nelson did because he'd like to hold a lead once in awhile.

  • Go Big Blue!!! Bountiful, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:23 p.m.

    It took an Aggie qb to beat the Aggies tonight. And that really stinks!

  • TrueBlue Orem, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:23 p.m.

    Doman made the call to replace Heaps with Nelson because he felt Riley's scrambling ability would introduce a new wrinkle into BYU's offense and give the Cougar's stagnant offense a spark.

    It worked, in SPADES.

    That 96-yard scoring drive was a thing of beauty and gave the Cougars a well-earned win.

    Utah State didn't give the game away; BYU took it from them.

    Congrats to the Aggies on a well-played game. Utah State has a legitimate chance of playing in a bowl game this year.

  • idaho cougar fan Twin Falls, ID
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:24 p.m.

    I've been saying for 2 weeks to bench Heaps. Riley played well, but I think James Lark still needs a shot. I think they should split reps with Lark and Nielsen for the 1st half against SJSU and see how it goes. If it works keep doing it in the 2nd half and see if one of them seperates himself from the other. If it doesn't work play Nielsen entire 2nd half and pull out a victory. Lark needs an opportunity to play so we can evaluate him in case Riley gets hurt.

  • Pugman TREMONTON, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:24 p.m.

    As I reflect back on the Texas game it's interesting to note how Mack Brown had seen enough in one half and it took the Cougars coaching staff 4 and half games. It's okay to tell a kid to take a seat and give him some more time if he needs it. Nelson played well, and you saw a team respond.

  • runnerguy50 Virginia Beach, Va
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:24 p.m.

    RiLey has earned the starting spot. Leave the publicist outside of the stadium and let Riley lead this team.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:25 p.m.

    Eat crow!! Go Huskies.

    Naval Vet | 2:45 p.m. Sept. 29, 2011
    Philadelphia, PA

    "...in the long run, Heaps will benefit from going up against tough defenses like he's seen from Ole Miss, Texas, Utah and UCF...'It's as good of an experience for his growing that he could possibly facethe growth that's been experienced for him in these last four weeks, I don't know where else we would have found it...'"

    Well, he certainly couldnt have found it in practice against the cougar D. Haha! Gotta love the cougars starting to prepare for the season...MIDSEASON!


    SnipeHookyoFace | 2:54 p.m. Sept. 29, 2011
    Farmington, UT

    Turbin is going to have a field day against the Y's defense. What they allowed White to do to them is only going to be worse with Turbin. Agg's offense will win this game for them, if the defense plays better than average. Sorry cougs you guys are not that athletic this year.

  • Colo. Aggie Loveland, CO
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:26 p.m.

    Another tough loss - I'm afraid the season's over. We might as well let our young QB open it up and start to prepare for the future.

  • JonnyDanger HOUSTON, TX
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:27 p.m.

    Two comments-Riley got a lot more help from his receivers than Jake. That's unfortunate for Jake, but says something about Riley making things happen, and you need that in a team leader.
    Secondly, why does our defense forget how to tackle in the second half? The last three weeks I have seen runs that were initially stuffed turn into 6-8 yard gains or more because nobody wraps up. Come on boys!

  • fan32 St. George, Utah
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:29 p.m.

    Bronco said it best. Riley Nelson is a football player. Enough said

  • Wallbanger Spanish Fork, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:30 p.m.

    As a Utes fan, I didn't really care who won. BYU winning only makes my Utes look better. Better luck next time USU. Boy do they have a beast of a RB. I don't really blame Y fans for storming the field...in small way that is. I think the fans are still Shel-shocked from the Utes and were really excited for the come back win. Not to mention Nelson sure makes Heaps look bad. Congrats on the win Cougs.

  • majmajor1 LAYTON, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:30 p.m.

    Both teams played an outstanding game. I hope the Aggies keep their heads up and stomp the WAC. You have a good team, the best quarterback and runningbacks in the State. #6 was awsome.

    Congrats Cougs! Nelson really showed that he deserves a shot at BYU's Quarterback job. I hope Nelson is very successful at quarterback, Heaps needs to sit until next year, and develop some leadership skills and courage.

  • ExecutorIoh West Jordan, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:33 p.m.

    Utah State didn't blow this game like they did the others. There was no muffed punt, no failure to execute an onside kick, no USU turnovers. If anything they forced a BYU turnover with 4 min left. USU played a tough game and didn't give it up like they did against Auburn and CSU. Tonight it came down to just making the plays and BYU made the plays in the 4th Quarter to win the game.

    I am convinced that USU is a better team than Utah; and how their players and coaches responded after the game, USU has more class than Utah.

  • sdavis1960 Rexburg, ID
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:35 p.m.

    Tough loss for my Aggies. Riley's postgame comments were all class. Turbin is a great back -- why just 9 carries? He should have 20-25 touches. Here's hoping for some WAC domination.

  • LVJazzFan Glendale, AZ
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:37 p.m.

    Well, I never comment, however. Hats off to the Aggies, they played a great game and probably should have won this game. That being said, the comeback was fun to watch and I am glad the Cougars pulled that game out. 5 very difficult games and a respectable 3-2. Now, here is the comment.
    This clearly is an underperforming team. The wide recievers, lineman, and quarterback are overhyped and the running backs are average. The defense is average and I am tired of the posing that goes on after every play.
    Doman is clearly in over his head. The play calling has been below average and the "execution" at his point of the year from an "experienced" offense is terrible. Perhaps he will pull it together, let's hope so. Nelson looked good because Doman knows how to utilize him. If he knew how to use Heaps there would be no quarterback controversey.
    When it is all said they may be a "respectable" 8-4, but really they are a middle of the road team and no better. It will be up to the coaches to improve this team to a top 20 team next year.

  • 19savant Santa Rosa, CA
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:38 p.m.

    Luckiest team in America. You should be 0-5 right now.

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:38 p.m.

    SoCalUtahFan | 9:28 p.m. Sept. 30, 2011
    Uteville, CA
    Ron McBride wants to play BYU next Friday.
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    No, he wants to wait until after he plays Montana St.

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:40 p.m.

    Ronnie W. | 9:33 p.m. Sept. 30, 2011
    Layton, UT
    Aggie lose another in clutch. Painful. While I congratulate the Cougars they have to keep in mind it's only Utah State.
    ------------
    Wasn't Gary Andersen the DC at Utes for 4th and 18 and Beck to Harline? He has a hard time protecting a lead.

  • Boo Ya!!! SLC, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:41 p.m.

    The ejection for hitting hard in the shoulder in a FOOTBALL game was also CLASSIC!!!

    Give me a break!!!

  • eljefeBYUfan Denver, CO
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:42 p.m.

    The Aggies looked awesome again; almost all the way to the very end - again.

    Very entertaining evening, especially when my favorite team found a way to win!

    And to see all the trolls who just can't stand it . . .

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:42 p.m.

    Hey Riley - no worries, you're hair's good in my book.

    That was the best ending to a football game since Beck to Johnny Harline. Go Huskies!!

  • nunya sacramento, ca
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:44 p.m.

    im more happy that we changed qbs and have given someone else a chance to succeed....now hoping heaps never plays another down for byu. i love keeton and his mojo but love nelson's even more.

  • Wildcat O-town, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:45 p.m.

    USU could fall out of a boat and not hit water. They are like the Washington Generals of football. They called two timeouts on the last drive that saved time for BYU, the last one was especially confusing--BYU may have run the clock out on that last play. They get a fumble and do three inside runs instead of going for the win or at least trying to pick up a few first downs. They need to get out of the Techmo Bowl spread option package and employ some strategy down the stretch (imagine that).

    This team excels at losing. I feel sorry for Turbin and Keeton. They are so much better talent-wise than BYU, but set up to fail by the play calls. Coach Anderson has to override the Offensive Coordinator when he tries to essentially put a knee on it with 7 minutes left, and the 2 minute drill needs to be improved so the defense doesn't worry about having to call timeouts.

    Now I have to hear BYU fans discussing rankings or even a championship knowing them. With their losses, and their remaining schedule, they should never break the top 25. USU goofs another one!

  • fan32 St. George, Utah
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:46 p.m.

    BYU won but could you believe the pathetic 2 minute offense. That is coaching and Doman is still way over his head. Riley Nelson won that game despite Doman's terrible coaching. Does it take an entire season to have a hurry up offense? It is coaching and at BYU it is totally unacceptable. Can't BYU afford to hire some real coaching.

  • #1UtahSportsFan WEST JORDAN, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:47 p.m.

    Quarterback controversy? There is no quarterback controversy at BYU-this is Nelson's team now..end of story. Heaps had a shot, but has repeatedly not gotten it done. The two times Nelson has played, they moved the ball and scored. If Bronco starts Heaps next week, he should be fired before the 1st quarter ends and forcibly removed from the field.

  • Duh west jordan, ut
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:50 p.m.

    @Boo Ya!!! | 10:14 p.m. Sept. 30, 2011

    Hey, whatever makes you sleep better at night, hooahhh.

    @All Utah Fans:

    Thanks for watching the game, I am sure glad you get to see at least one Utah team play football on TV every week and that I get to hear all your lame excuses about how lucky BYU is and how bad of a team they are. And yep, I think Utah will beat Washington tomorrow and if they don't, I promise I won't rub it in your face.

    @ Chris B.

    Thank you so much for your input on every game. Let's see, wasn't this supposed to be the other way around and wasn't BYU supposed to be 1-4 right now? Just saying! We may be struggling but I am sure glad we keep making you look bad.

  • GoBanana PROVO, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:54 p.m.

    This one time there was this team, had Super Hyped QB and this one Other Tough As Nails QB. They gave SHQB every start but OTANQB had to come in, take over the game and come from behind to win... every time! BYU? Nope, Michigan Tom Brady's senior year. Love Heaps, but I think Riley just proved this is his team. FULL NELSON!!!

    P.s. Was it a rush the field worthy night? Probably not, but I sure as heck will rush it when I get a chance... and I did.

  • hamaca Baton Rouge, LA
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:54 p.m.

    Look at all the cries to start Nelson by the simple-minded folk. Oh gee, he had a good quarter and a half. Has anyone stopped to think Nelson's problem is that he's only good in shorter spurts like this--especially when the other team's defense is tired and he's just getting started? He's a sprinter, nothing more.

    There's a reason he didn't win the starting job last year or this year. He can't sustain the performance throughout the whole game. He will not be able to compensate for what Heaps clearly lacks. Who knows--maybe tonight is a model for a different approach.

  • badlandscougar great plains, sd
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:56 p.m.

    we found a way to win. riley nelson should be the starter now. he had the look of knowimg when usu was wounded. nelson is the starter.

  • buryme Mesa, AZ
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:56 p.m.

    when Doman said the BYU offense was "inches away", few people understood what he meant. He meant that BYU was just a few inches away from canning their starting quarterback and going with somebody who could win!

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:58 p.m.

    I'm happy for Riley.We fans have been starving to see someone actually lead the team by example, not mouth, and show some will, determination and toughness. Nelson may tuck and run a little too much and his accuracy may be a little off, but he can move the pocket, see the WHOLE FIELD, and make big plays in crunch time. That was so refreshing to see that again from a BYU QB.

    I'll take Nelson's heart over Heaps arm any day of the week. Good for him.

    Was it all luck? I don't think so. That was a spectacular finishing drive. Nelson and the Cougs deserved this win.

  • runnerguy50 Virginia Beach, Va
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:59 p.m.

    The BYU players respect Nelson. Heaps was alone on the sideline and BYU reacted to its leader... Riley Nelson.

  • Zoniezoobie Mesa, AZ
    Sept. 30, 2011 11:03 p.m.

    Coach on post-game show says he has to tenderly care for the feelings of both QBs going forward. Expect to see more Heaps immaturity, and then late game heroics by Nelson to pull more games out of the fire, if he can. I suspect, this will go on for another 2 and a half years...

    Heaps is not a leader. He is a timid, scared, little guy out there, just look at him. He seems to say, how did I get into this, why am I here?

    Nelson has the fire, the passion, the drive, the ambition, the desire to make it happen. You can't teach that, no matter how much on the job training they keep giving Heaps. Doman ought to know that himself, because he is the last QB at BYU that had that! No offense to Beck or Maxie, just saying...

  • UgottaloveMaxie SLC, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 11:04 p.m.

    Re: Duh - I live out of state and have seen every Utah game on national tv with exception of Montana State. I don't know why you are still touting your espn deal. they will relegate your cougs to espn3 and espn U very soon, which are seen only online.

  • utahcoug LEHI, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 11:04 p.m.

    It was great to see some energy from BYU's offense when Nelson came into the game. I honestly think that Heaps is still young and not prepared to start. Heaps needs to wait until next year.

  • #1UtahSportsFan WEST JORDAN, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 11:09 p.m.

    I have never seen anything quite like that finish...oh, wait, I have-at Auburn. I have never seen a defense fold as quickly and completely as Utah State's did tonight. I thought they would have learned to be more aggressive on defense after that loss-but, no...but, I guess that is why they are Utah State. I hope they can figure it out because their QB is electric and they can dominate almost anyone when they run it-including the SEC.
    My guess is that their QB will transfer because he is tired of losing leads to 50 yard passes that could have been successfully defended by small children and old ladies. Please figure it out Utah State because Anderson will be fired and never get another job again-he's supposed to be a defensive minded guy, but the secondary can't stop anyone from scoring in the final two minutes of a game-EVEN when they mismanage the clock; the simply refuse to win.

  • gomiman Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 11:10 p.m.

    Cougars actually stormed the field in 1997 when BYU was ranked #24 and USU had a 2-2 record. It was funny then too.

  • #1UtahSportsFan WEST JORDAN, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 11:17 p.m.

    Hey hamaca,
    simple-minded folk? Really?... Nelson didn't win the starting job because he "didn't sustain performance throughout the whole game" Maybe so, but are you saying Heaps HAS done so? Because if you are, you are delusional...the only thing Heaps has sustained throughout the whole game is mediocrity and defeat. He HAS NOT gotten the job done. Nelson moves the ball and scores. Will he lead this team to the promised land? Who knows? But, I DO KNOW that Heaps has been given the chance and HAS NOT performed...END OF STORY

  • Big Hapa Kaysville, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 11:22 p.m.

    I knew Riley could bring the fire that this cougar team desperately needed. Classy comments in the post game interviews no bush league gloating simply stating the luck that was needed in the end to get the ball tipped into Marcus's hands for the final score.

    The win was being in the right place at the right time that sorta play that seems to roll your way.

    Well lets keep it rollin.

  • bballjunkie Cedar Hills, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 11:22 p.m.

    You have to love the so called true BYU fans. Again what is worse BYU band wagon fan or chris B and his ute haters? you make the call.

    Go cougs!

  • CougarKeith Roy, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 11:22 p.m.

    My guess would be we have a NEW starting QB at Brigham Young University? I mean, the attitude is there, players RALLIED behind Nelson, and he seemed to have CONFIDENCE and SWAGGER! That tells me something arrived onto the Offense tonight, and his name was not Jake Heaps! Sorry Heaps, just sit tight one more year and you'll be fine with the new offense next year and a coordinator who actually has some faith in your abilities. You could see it in Nelson right away, he didn't add extra gun powder to his cannon, just enough to be on target and for someone with soft hands to make the catch! Makes a difference when you aren't trying to break fingers with every throw you make! I think we might be moving forward now with the offense! I think the problem with the Defense might have been Bronco paying to much attention to the Offense this week.

  • carman Wasatch Front, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 11:24 p.m.

    Students rushed the field for Riley, not for the win...

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 11:27 p.m.

    According to Y fans... after Riley loses two games, one of two things will happen:
    1) James Lark will suddenly be the best QB on the team
    2) Jake Heaps will have "matured" and "humbled" enough to start again

  • clintharris Saint George, Utah
    Sept. 30, 2011 11:29 p.m.

    I rest my case regarding mature leadership and quarterbacking at BYU. Enough said.

  • Just Wondering... Gilbert, AZ
    Sept. 30, 2011 11:30 p.m.

    ...if ther will be near this many comments on the story tomorrow about the Utes loss to the Huskies. I'm willing to bet not.

  • InCogNeatO Logan, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 11:35 p.m.

    Just a few comments...

    The same fans who were shoveling dirt on Riley Nelson are now lauding his heart and determination. You weren't looking for that a last year, just arm strength. Riley is such a better option that Heaps it isn't even funny, and this has been apparent to people who really know. Heaps is inaccurate and has no presence. And who is calling for Lark??? He hasn't even played a down! What are you people talking about?

    Why all this disdain for the WAC ("BYU shouldn't be rushing the field after beating a WAC team"). BYU cut their teeth in the WAC people! Your finest hours and what makes your program even noteworthy occurred when you were in the WAC?

    How ridiculous is this hair talk? Nelson represents the best of what a BYU QB should be. A player with heart and grit, who lives the ideals of the church, having gone on a mission. He couldn't get a fair shake until he took it by brute force tonight. Meanwhile people fret over the length of his hair. Just goes to show far removed such superficial judgments are from the real signifiers of virtue.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 11:38 p.m.

    Looks like alot of utah "fans" watched the game tonight. I went. Wasn't happy for most of it. Enjoyed the comeback win but am not at all convinced that it changes anything, just hope it does. But ultimately all I care about is winning so in that aspect it will be a satisfying week.

  • AribaD Spanish Fork, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 11:39 p.m.

    A few observations on the game from a BYU fan here: The penalty was warranted, the ejection was not. USU's QB and running backs are the real deal and Turbin is a beast. I'm a fan. Plucky come back by BYU. A little luck never hurt. Go Cougs. Go Aggies. (I've always liked USU.)

  • The Cucamongan Rancho Cucamonga, CA
    Sept. 30, 2011 11:44 p.m.

    I just love it when there is the fresh smell of a QB controversy in the morning.

  • North Summit 05 Coalville, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 11:47 p.m.

    With how Utah fans bash on every single BYU related post that just goes to show how classless you all are Max was right and that hit on Apo was the right call if you dont like it talk to your pac refs and why do you guys have to trash on the Y so much you should be worrying about Washington Coach Anderson did not complain about the ejection so that there shows that he didnt think it was a bad call and why bash about BYU being happy that they beat a good USU team you guys went nuts about barely beating Montana State Utah fans you best worry about your team and leave BYU out of it this is something I dislike alot when the U wins the rivalry game they have to rub it in the cougs face every time they can. Great game Riley should be the starter the end drop Jake to 3rd string bring Lark to back up

  • Sports Nutz Smithfield, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 11:50 p.m.

    jarka, I just got home and ready for my bowl of crow! Nelson did a great job leading byu back and I didn't think for one minute they would play him tonight when they didn't pull Heaps the past 2 games. byu will be a much better team with him leading the way IMO. I thought the Aggies got jobbed on the ejection of Brady and now watching it on my DVR it makes me even more ticked. Very bad call on kicking him out. That said, byu was the better team tonight and got the win and until the Aggies can learn to finish I will be eating tons of crow. Do I feel we still have a good team? Yep, but we need to turn the corner in a hurry. GO AGGIES, GO UTES, GO WILDCATS!

  • Tomahawk Red North Salt Lake, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 11:54 p.m.

    Cougars - Wise Older Brothers | 10:11 p.m. Sept. 30, 2011
    Anaheim, CA
    MidMajor4ever

    There's nothing more pathetic than a bitter, jealous little brother whining about his older brother engineering a 96-yard scoring drive in the last 2:30 of a game to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat.

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    That was dead in the water without a 40-yard, last gasp, just-chuck-it-up-there, no skill, purely lucky, junior jazz-style hail mary pass that the receiver had to come back 10 yards to get a hand on it?

    I'm sure Doman drew it up exactly like that.

    Fluke luck. Yet another game the kitties should've lost. They're 3-2. Should be 0-5.

  • Tomahawk Red North Salt Lake, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 12:02 a.m.

    Striker | 10:11 p.m. Sept. 30, 2011
    Omaha, NE

    BYU is 3-2, with the only real threats left being TCU and Hawai'i.

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    You're joking... right?

    Week 1: Couldn't find the end zone, yet still narrowly defeated a putrid SEC team.

    Week 2: Couldn't find the end zone, and lost to Texas.

    Week 3: Couldn't find the end zone... and well, you know.

    Week 4: Couldn't find the end zone, yet beat a mediocre team from Conference USA.

    Week 5: Couldn't find the end zone, yet beat a WAC league Utah State who thoroughly outplayed BYU the entire game.

    BYU hasn't yet played a team that they, themselves, can threaten... and that will continue.

    You need to be concerned about every last team remaining on your schedule.

    When you play like a FCS team, you can't cop BCS-caliber attitude. So worry about San Jose State next week. Plenty there to keep your hands full.

  • Tomahawk Red North Salt Lake, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 12:06 a.m.

    worf | 10:25 p.m. Sept. 30, 2011
    Mcallen, TX
    Eat crow!! Go Huskies.

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    Actually, everything in their posts did take place. So I'd say they're off the hook.

    Utah State did dominate BYU tonight. Turbin ran all over them. And BYU's flaws were highlighted yet again.

    It just so happens that this is one of those rare games when the winning team had absolutely no business taking the victory.

  • In Stitches Provo, Utah
    Oct. 1, 2011 12:17 a.m.

    Dear Ute fans,

    It is clear by your many, many comments that you all enjoyed watching BYU and USU play tonight on ESPN. On behalf of both teams, thank you for drastically increasing our ratings. If you stopped watching, they would have surely been cut in half. The fact that your comments outnumber those of fans from BOTH schools about 5 to 1 says it all.

  • wardu Fallon, NV
    Oct. 1, 2011 12:19 a.m.

    Great game to be at tonight if you were a cougar fan. It was fun watching the kids take the field after the game, let them have some fun. It has been fun to read all the haters trying to turn the win into a loss somehow. Too bad for the haters. Good luck to Utah tomorrow. Win or lose will the game summary even get 50 comments? Most likely not. Well maybe if U lose.

  • wardu Fallon, NV
    Oct. 1, 2011 12:22 a.m.

    Tommyhawk - U are a bitter little loser, that is all.

  • wardu Fallon, NV
    Oct. 1, 2011 12:27 a.m.

    BYU made the top 10 plays on ESPN, 4, 2 and 1. Let the hating continue.

  • wardu Fallon, NV
    Oct. 1, 2011 12:34 a.m.

    Tommy, dominating includes winning the game, kind of like U did two weeks ago. All Utah St. did was lose a game, like U did against USC. Good luck getting that first conference win. Luck is not a bad thing, when it makes the haters even more bitter.

  • GoGetter Sandy, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 12:35 a.m.

    Why did it take this many games and 3 quarters to FINALLY realize how bad Hypes is? Nelson saved the game.

    However, Mr. Keeton is solid. Heisman within 2 years and if the Aggies program somehow gets relevant within that time.

    But seriously, storming the field for a WAC team? One that hasn't won on Cougar turf since 78? Is it necessary? BYU must be bad this year.....

  • Stang08 Cedar City, Utah
    Oct. 1, 2011 12:35 a.m.

    BYU did not win by pure luck. They were the better team cause they've got the more experienced players. So far this has been a great weekend. Mountain Crest high wins, USU losses, and if SUU wins tomorrow I will be jumping for joy. Keep up the good work USU. Your showing Logan something. That you can't win big games and you are the same team you've always been.

  • eagle Provo, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 12:36 a.m.

    Not to burst anybody's bubble, but we have to remember how Nelson looked last year. Not great. He won't be the savior. Don't let victories against future second rate opponents fool you. Utah State is one of the better teams BYU will face in the next several weeks. Everything will seem better but then TCU, and probably Hawaii, bring BYU back down to earth. I would say the game with Idaho is a toss-up, they're not horrible, probably similar to Utah State in quality.

  • wardu Fallon, NV
    Oct. 1, 2011 12:37 a.m.

    Tommyhawk said "It just so happens that this is one of those rare games when the winning team had absolutely no business taking the victory."

    Like that rare game that U won against BYU last season?

    karma rules.

  • DRay Roy, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 12:39 a.m.

    Riley Nelson looks kinda like Tom Brady of the NFL Patriots, especially the look in his eyes on the 96 yard drive. Jake Heeps hasn't been havin any fun, football must be fun or why play it? I don't care who the other team was, this was a fun, inspiring win for the Cougs. It really cheered me up.

  • eagle Provo, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 12:43 a.m.

    People wonder what would have happened if Nelson stayed at Utah State. It is an interesting question. But tonight Keeton was the best QB on the field. This kid is good. As an earlier post said, I hope they can keep him upright, keep him motivated, keep him from transferring. He does what it takes to win and somehow the Aggies find a way to blow it.

  • Tomahawk Red North Salt Lake, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 12:43 a.m.

    Duckhunter | 11:38 p.m. Sept. 30, 2011
    Highland, UT

    Looks like alot of utah "fans" watched the game tonight.

    -------------

    Surprised to see you here.

    I was wondering if you'd 'duck' out of town like you did after the Utah laugher. Too embarrassed by your mouth writing checks that BYU can't get close to cashing.

    But I respect you for having the guts to show up tonight... seeing how your team was mopped all night long by another, yet less respected, Utah team.

    Do you really feel good about your team right now? I said after the game that I can't possibly see how any Y fan could be satisfied with that win... knowing that Utah State was unquestionably the one that deserved it.

    I'm telling you guys... you're 3-2 but you should be 0-5. And if they were 0-5, I know dang well you wouldn't be feeling so good about BYU.

    Enjoy the win... but you should recognize that your team is still playing pretty dang bad.

  • SammyG Child ALTAMONT, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 12:43 a.m.

    54-10 Cougs and 7 out of the last 10. The tide has turned for old BYU. The Utes have sailed off and left the lowly Ags to defend the Aggie Blue. Tonight the cougs won. The hottest instate rivalry is here to stay. Should be fun watching this game every year. It will go down to the wire like most of the other WAC games the cougs will play.

  • bluerunner RIVERTON, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 12:50 a.m.

    Very happy for Riley, what a great night for him and one he will always remember. You goobers griping about his hair make me wish I could go back in time to 1980 so I could fall in love with a different college football team, one with less dorks in the fan base.
    As for USU, they mean nothing to me personally. Didn't grow up in Utah and no offense but I just don't care about Utah State. Nevertheless, I feel horrible for those guys. I am on the Utah State bandwagon for the rest of the year, and I wish them the best. Coach Anderson has them pointed in the right direction and they seem like a team full of really good guys. Pretty soon they will learn to seal the deal in games like the ones they've been losing.

    Go Cougars!
    Go Aggies!

  • CougarBlue Heber City, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 12:59 a.m.

    Jingleheimer you need to watch the game not your imagination.

    Great substitution by Doman in the 3rd quarter.

    Der rickski13 to accomplish that they would have to loose to both Utah and Utah State. Your math is rather fuzzy.

    BYU commentators said BYU is very predictable on second down when the first down pass is incomplete and USU was waiting for the runner.

  • uteBusters Park City, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 12:59 a.m.

    Tomahawk Red

    And who has Utah beat this year?

    *crickets*

    beat a mediocre Big Sky team

    lost to a mediocre PAC 12 team

    were given a game by a mediocre independent

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 1:02 a.m.

    GoRed | 9:30 p.m. Sept. 30, 2011
    WEST VALLEY CITY, UT

    "Yet, we now have BYU fans storming the field after BYU comes from behind to beat Utah State of the WAC, on a fluke play, no less."

    ===

    Didn't Utah fsns storm the field when they played in the Las Vegas Bowl against a WAC team.

    Ooops, my bad. I forgot they all left during the third quarter to get a hot-dog.

    Hey, drop me a line red when Utah beats a BCS team...

    ===

    It's funny how all the smack talk comes back to bite ya.

  • WA_Alum&Dad Marysville, WA
    Oct. 1, 2011 1:11 a.m.

    Great heartstopper of a game. Got to hand it to the Aggies on the field, on the sidelines and in the stands. They played their hearts out, gave it their all, and stayed classy the whole game. Unlike another in-state team's players, coaches and fans. Props to a well-coached program.

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 1:16 a.m.

    Tomahawk Red | 11:54 p.m. Sept. 30, 2011
    North Salt Lake, UT

    "Fluke luck. Yet another game the kitties should've lost. They're 3-2. Should be 0-5."

    ===

    Dude, you just don't get sports. Stop hating. Part of sports is fluke luck.

    And whether the "kitties" are 0-5, or 3-2 is not the issue. They are 3-2, with a win over a BCS team, something that the Red Tomahawks are still waiting to do. No matter how bad you hate BYU, they post W's and L's, not scores.

    Good luck tomorrow Utes.

  • 1Infidel APO, AE
    Oct. 1, 2011 1:35 a.m.

    I agree with Idaho Cougar - split time next week between Nelson and Lark and let the on-the-field competition/results dictate the rest of the season.

    Heaps came on board (thanks to many Cougar fans) thinking he was entitled, and yup, frosh season he is starting a handful of games in....

    The way he stands on the sidelines alone, rehearsing his media moments, vs talking with his receivers, line, center, backs? I think he has an entitled attitude, and it shows with his teammates and their intensity when he is on the field.

    Now compare that to when Nelson is on the field. I don't think Sarkisian is still interesed, but maybe he could follow Massoli....

    Heaps may have the physical tools, but he is missing something upstairs and inside. Benching him for at least a game, or two, won't hurt the Cougars the next couple of weeks, and may be the medicine Heaps needs to help him get real, or get lost.

  • Ted H. Midvale, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 1:36 a.m.

    I love that Utah fans are bitter about this game. A 54 to to 10 beatdown isn't enough? I am happy you are sad.

  • Ted H. Midvale, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 1:39 a.m.

    Tomahawk, it makes me happy you are bitter about all things Byu. I love knowing it bothers you so. Thanks. Enjoy conference tomorrow.

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 1:41 a.m.

    To all those whop say the weaker team won, I ask: How did the stronger team let the weaker team have a 96-yard scoring drive with less than 2 minutes remaining? BYU started the 2nd half with a 0-yard pass completion, a 1-yard run, and failing to convert on 3rd and 9 and had to punt. USU got numerous 3rd down conversions, particularly on one of their scoring drives. That being said, USU knows how TO LOSE during the last 3 minutes of a game. They've done it 3 times now. Maybe they ought to play some defense when the game is on the line. USU is MEDIOCRE...that is USU football. 1 - 3, they need to win 3 of the next 4 to hit .500. That isn't a "good team" by any standard except Yewties way of looking at things. Speaking of the Utes, they have awfully big mouths for not having a PAC 12 win yet, and maybe that streak will continue when they play Washington. Maybe not.

    Sure had a lot of Utes watching a game between an "independent" and a mid-major (WAC) team. Hypocites they are.....perhaps?

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 1:47 a.m.

    When there were 3 minutes left in the game, I turned to some friends that sit behind me and said "Don't worry. This Aggie team has learned how to lose. If this game can be salvaged, it's going to happen. They fold really well." Then we watched it happen.

    Of course Aggies say the BYU team "got lucky." Are you sure it wasn't that the USU team got "unlucky?" Or did they just live up to the tradition they have established for themselves?

    That Auburn loss, precipitated when the USU players saw the on-side kick as an U.F.O. and just gasp at it while Auburn hauled it in right out of the air, set the stage for USU. And their Coach said he wouldn't change a play call that failed to work against CSU that lost the game. That means he'd be willing to lose again and feel good about it.

    USU will end up about .500 and Coach Anderson will keep his job and everyone will gush about his great team....at .500. Amazing isn't it?

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 2:00 a.m.

    Coach Andersen said about BYU that "tonight they wre the better football team."
    BYU haters might want to read that again.

    Where USU made a bone-head decision was when they tried the fake field goal on 4th down. That was really dumb. And it cost them dearly.

    USU did not "dominate" BYU tonight. And they didn't "win" tonight either. The game, like the score, was fairly close and the lead changed sides a couple of times.

    I attribute those comments to Ute fans who are referring the game that Utah dominated the Y this year. And I congratulate them on the victory. But that is old news now, and doesn't affect the BYU/USU game at all. In fact, it doesn't do anything for Utah except count towards their record to be eligible to go to a bowl. They might end up in Vegas. Maybe. (I don't believe anyone else is going to give them the ball 7 times during the game.) So the smart people have gotten past that for the time being, people like Whittingham, whose example ought to be followed.

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 2:16 a.m.

    A couple observations:

    There are more than just a couple Ute fans obsessed with BYU football.

    BYU fans stay till the end of the third quarter, unless the game is in doubt (like Dodger Fans). Traffic out of LES is a bear.

    Only the students jumped on the field. Those of us who have been there before, don't need that rush.

    USU is building a solid team, and deserves props.

    BYU got lucky, but luck is part of sports, and doesn't hurt a struggling team.

    Jake will start next week, but will be replaced sooner if he doesn't get his act together.

    Utah needs a BCS Win.

    BYU and USU are the only two schools whose athletes have won national awards.

    Aggies fans are classy.

    The meek may inherit the earth, but they will not get their cars out of stadium parking for days.

    I saw no beer thrown, nor drunks at the game tonight, so if that ever comes up down the road...

    If the players will not play as hard for Heaps as the do for Riley, the players need to bench themselves.

    The flag was deserved, the ejection? Who gets ejected?

    Good luck Utes tomorrow.

  • mr. j Cottonwood Hts., Ut
    Oct. 1, 2011 2:16 a.m.

    Anderson, When will you learn. Three games taking a lead into the final five mintues. 3 times dropping into prevent D. three times your last offensive possesions lack any creativity. Three losses.

    Quit playing not to lose. Could be 4-0 and ranked right now.

  • AK Cougar Palmer, AK
    Oct. 1, 2011 2:49 a.m.

    Good game by the Cougars tonight. Nelson brought some much needed life into the offense. Good to see. The recievers had some touch on the ball with Nelson calling signals and Hoffman is turning himself into a very good reciever. Great one handed grab on the sidelines. Utah State played a very good game tonight as well. Congrats to them.

    For fans of the team up north. Does your team even play tomorrow? This BYU fan does not care who you play, where or when unless it is against my Cougar team. I would not look at your schedule and do not care about the score either. Oh, and I would not comment on your articles either, because I won't read them.

    Go Cougars.

  • ClarkHippo Tooele, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 4:54 a.m.

    @Tomahawk Red

    You're comments are a combination of legitimate points seated alongside ridiculous criticisms.

    1. You and many others wish BYU was 0-5, but they're not. Sorry to say, they're 3-2 no matter how much people pout about it or say "...the winning team had absolutely no business taking the victory."

    2. Each and every week, the trollers have predicted a definite loss for BYU. I've read comments predicting easy wins by Ole' Miss, Texas, Utah, etc. So far, these predictors have been right 2 out of 5 times.

    3. I agree BYU has not shown much fire yet and they should not look past teams like San Jose State. But Riley Nelson's performance gives BYU hope for a strong second half of the season.

  • pele Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 5:12 a.m.

    When Riley is forced to cut his hair for the honor code will he lose his magic like Samson did? If teams are prepared for him to run it's not too hard to stop him. He is not as good a passer as Heaps but he sure has heart.

  • peacemaker Provo, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 5:22 a.m.

    WOW1 It's so great to see all of the anti BYU fans suffering.

  • Coach101 Houston, TX
    Oct. 1, 2011 5:50 a.m.

    The Logan boy wins the game against the hometown Aggies - great story line but bottom line is Nelson gave an inspiring performance - can't deny that if either a BYU or USU fan. I commend the USU program for their improvement. A 1 and 3 record does not reflect at all the level of football USU is playing. Keep your heads up USU, you could have, should be 4 and 0 now but don't look back and go out and win the next 7 games, the WAC and a bowl game - this is easily within your reach. As a BYU fan I thank the Aggies for a well fought game and realize that sometime it is better to be lucky than good - we were very lucky last night!

  • financenco Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 6:51 a.m.

    This is not a pile on or anything, more of an idea. Sometimes, when you are a QB in high school, and you had little adversity, because the team you have is loaded the whole time. Maybe the lack of losing in the early years, or the lack of having to fight a tight game, messes with your mind, that maybe a couple more years of maturity makes a difference. I think the biggest mistake he did was hold the big press conference when he signed and hyped himself up. Hasn't been able to live up to it yet. To me he isn't anything more than a hyped Olsen kid that left for UCLA, or the Covey QB who didn't live up to potential either. Maybe the next year or two. He is still slow and mechanical right now. He is playing not to lose, rather than playing to win. He is missing his open people, keying on the big plays, but ignoring the short plays that can add big yardage. There also is no passion from him yet, because right now the game is in his head, not his heart yet. Maybe it comes with time.

  • IDC Boise, ID
    Oct. 1, 2011 7:06 a.m.

    Fun game to watch. I love Nelson's heart and drive.

    The right call was made, the ejection was too much though.

    Aggies have a group of great runners. Keaton will improve as he gets more experience.

    I hope the Aggies can keep their heads up, 3 tough losses but they have a good team.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 7:26 a.m.

    @tomahawk red

    Good lord you are bitter over this. How satisfying it will make my day knowing you are in anguish :)

    LOL!

  • AribaD Spanish Fork, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 7:30 a.m.

    Tomahawk Red mumbled: "Utah State did dominate BYU tonight."

    Uh, you may want to take a peek at the stats of the game before you make a statement like that.

  • defibman Syracuse, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 7:30 a.m.

    As others have said, "Thanks u fans for your continued support". I just love it! ! ! As long as we have all these u fans watching BYU play on ESPN the ratings will continue to be "thru the roof". That's why ESPN made the deal in the first place. It is all about how many people watch that channel.

    BYU fans rush the field because they love their team. The u fans are much like their bball players, they just run away. Note when the u is behind late in the forth quarter what happens with their fan base.....empty seats! The same is true with the bball fans. Truly, all u fans know and feel that they are the younger brothers (sister's) of BYU.

    P.S. Keep being jealous of our NC, Heisman winner, and all the other awards we have that you don't.

  • Hawk Littleton, CO
    Oct. 1, 2011 7:47 a.m.

    Wow, hilarious! Haven't read all comments, but it appears that about 90% are ute fans! Thanks for caring! Oh, and sorry about the outcome, utes. You guys appeared to be having a SO much fun. Oh well, there's still time to go on over to Vai's article and display some more of your righteous indignation. I'll be interested to see your comments in the Denver Post during the CU/WSU game today. After all, they ARE your new rivals, right?

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 7:47 a.m.

    We've said for 3 weeks now, that Jake is a Little Boy in a Mans World.

    Riley Nelson is first and foremost a "Football-Player".

    Think of the Great BYU QB's, "Football-Players" all.
    From Carter to Hall.

    They were all "Tough"...Not Soft!
    They all paid their dues.
    They were not annointed and handed the job, too early.

    Nelson is the Man. He's paid his dues, been away from the game (mission) and has grown up. He's 23 years old. Jake is just not ready for the Mantle yet.

    As of now, Jake does not seem to be a "Gritty Football Player".
    He avoids contact.

    Sure, he has the great arm and all, but watch him when it comes time to recover a fumble, make a tackle to avoid a pick-6, check his receivers, his lack of touch, or run in the open field (as he slides 7 yards before the defense gets near him).

    It' as if he's too concerned with protecting himself for the NFL.
    He has a sense of entitlement.

    Question for Doman and Bronco.
    What took you so long?
    Texas didn't wait 4 games to switch their QB's.

    Anything short of Riley starting WillNotStand!

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Oct. 1, 2011 7:47 a.m.

    Fans rushed the field because of how we won, not just that we won. This was the most exciting BYU finish since Jim McMahon and the win over SMU in the Miracle Bowl. If I was at the game, I would have rushed the field; and it's been a long time since I was student at BYU.

    I was a little disappointed in Bronco's stoic disposition. Come on, show some passion and some excitement. You're making the somber Lavelle Edwards look like a cheerleader.

    There is no QB controversy. Nelson is the new starting QB. He's a scrappy player, and gets the job done. He will start the rest of the year. Heaps should redshirt next year, and the controversy will be in 2013 when redshirt Freshman Hill and redshirt Junior Heaps are vying for the job.

    Give Heaps a year and a half to really learn the college game, and I think he'll still be a very good QB his last two years.

    2011 to 2012 - Nelson
    2013 to 2014 - Heaps
    2015 to 2016 - Hill
    2017 to 2018 - Mangum

  • Hawkeye79 Iowa City, IA
    Oct. 1, 2011 7:50 a.m.

    Wow, Tomahawk Red! 3 consecutive comments about your rival. Considering how familiar you are with the game, I'm sure that BYU and ESPN are grateful for your viewership.

    You must have been watching because, although Utah State's running game was fantastic (as it has been against every team they've faced), BYU was by no means "dominated." How do you "dominate" a team that outgains you (BYU-451, USU-406)?

    Don't late your evident hatred of a team blind you to the point of sounding ridiculous. You sound silly when you claim that the team with the more productive offense in both points and yards gained had "absolutely no business taking the victory."

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 7:52 a.m.

    Nothing like the afterglow of victory and seeing the dust cloud of trolls kicking the dirt in frustration and anguish over a BYU victory.

    If the Utes lose today it will be the perfect storm.

    Thank you Riley! It was great to see you play last night.

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 7:53 a.m.

    @TommyBoyRed

    You lost us at.....
    "Hello, I'm a Ute Fan".

    There is a Big World out there, Tommy Boy, go get it.
    Don't look back, and eventually, that long BYU shadow hanging over you will dissipate, if you let it be so.

  • LeonardL Sandy, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 8:01 a.m.

    With all due respect to Jake Heaps, when Jake is running the offense it is like they are going up hill to get to the End Zone. With Riley Nelson it is like the team is moving down hill to get to the End Zone Jake needs some more time for college football prime time. Riley Nelson has that fighting drive to win that makes Offense fun to watch.

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 8:03 a.m.

    The beauty of a QB with Riley's skill set, is that he has "Options" on every play.

    Doman can call the play, but Riley has more than one choice as to how he executes the given play.

    This may save the season, as we all apparently have to endure Doman's and Bronco's state of perpetual learning curve.

    Jake is given the play, and if it breaks down, he does not have the skill set to implement plan B, C, D, E, or f as Riley does.

    We'll all see if Bronco has come out of his cloud and will now wake up and do the right thing.

    He's still 3 weeks late on making a swtich.

  • Fanaddict GILBERT, AZ
    Oct. 1, 2011 8:05 a.m.

    Great job Riley! Way to seize the moment and capitalize!

  • We wear Blue ogden, ut
    Oct. 1, 2011 8:05 a.m.

    Whats wrong ute fans, you have nothing better to do on a Friday night than to watch BYU games? Then run to your little room in your mothers basement and sit on your computer and hate on everything!
    I will not be watching the Utah game today because I dont care about them. I wont be commenting on their boards because I dont care about them. Ute fans are unbelievable and pathetic!
    Go Cougs!

  • eljefeBYUfan Denver, CO
    Oct. 1, 2011 8:07 a.m.

    Tomahawk Red | 12:06 am 1 Oct 2011

    Wow - Utah State really did "dominate" in rushing - 284-200, but:

    First Downs USU 18 BYU 29

    Plays-Net Yards USU 63-406 BYU 85-451

    Passing Yards USU 122 BYU 251

    Kick Return Yards USU 57 BYU 90

    Punt Return Yards USU 0 BYU 13

    Time of Possession USU 25:47 BYU 34:13

    Just the stats - Just the facts.

  • usufann SLC, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 8:24 a.m.

    When they put in Riley Nelson I knew there would be a WIN!! The players respect him and he is incredibly gifted physically and mentally in the game!! While he was leading BYU to a win, his brother, DJ, was doing the same in Logan defeating Sky View 61 - 7. 7-0 for the year. Too bad he isn't following his brother to BYU.

  • Normal Guy Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 8:26 a.m.

    The officiating crew was from the WAC, not the Pac-12. Surprisingly, most calls seemed to go BYU's way - except the facemask call against Sorensen when it was he that was taken down to the ground by his facemask by the USU runner. That extended a drive that ended in a touchdown.

  • TO'A59676 Sandy, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 8:31 a.m.

    Don't be sad Coach from USU, Riley's little brother committed to you guys this week. Then again so did Riley, sorry. He just threw a bunch of TD's last night too, he's a stud.

  • MizzouBlue Carthage, MO
    Oct. 1, 2011 8:39 a.m.

    Way to go Cougs. Gutsy call by Doman to replace Heaps. There was no doubt that Nelson's presence on the field was the difference maker in this game. It was reflected in the way the offense rallied to make the winning scores. Plus, you could see the defense take on a greater sense of urgency to help the offense. Let's hope this was the spark that's been needed to keep us rolling. Rise & Shout!!

  • usufann SLC, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 8:42 a.m.

    There's always the third brother, Chase, who is just as talented as Riley and D.J.

  • mediabiases Orem, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 8:44 a.m.

    Get a haircut Riley Nelson. How come I notice that first when he takes his helmet off and no coach, professor, teammate, or student is able to see the same thing and remind him of the dress and grooming standards? I'm not impressed with his integrity.

  • technonerd7 orem, ut
    Oct. 1, 2011 8:49 a.m.

    Veritas Aequitas,

    Thank you for pointing something everyone should see. The players are playing differently for Riley, then for Jake. Here is a quote from McKay "In the second half, we changed as a team. We played with more heart," If you are all playing with a half heart, then your QB does not have your support and you are BOUND TO LOSE.

    Yes, I am a Jake fan. Yes I am NOT a Riley fan. Yes I am glad that Jake got benched to put a fire in him he needs. But let's not anoint Riley the started yet. Lets not forget, he had some really bad throws as well as Jake, and if not for a lucky tip to a receiver in the end zone, we have one less touchdown and we lose.

    Point is hopefully Jake and the rest of the team learn from this, and play with "more heart" no matter who is the QB.

    Why not give Lark a shot as well?

    Just my 2 cents worth.

  • usufann SLC, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 8:56 a.m.

    Hair? So.... if someone has longer hair than you see fit, he has no integrity? Do you know Riley to judge his integrity? Or are you judging him by his looks?

  • TheHailstorm South Weber, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 8:57 a.m.

    " I'm not sure the better team won tonight. "

  • technonerd7 orem, ut
    Oct. 1, 2011 8:58 a.m.

    And why aren't we using the TE's more? Marcus is a stud and he will catch almost anything thrown at him. Doman, use the TE's more. That is what made BYU so awesome in the past. TE up the middle for 8 yards is there a lot!

  • denedu LOGAN, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 9:00 a.m.

    I find it quite hilarious that for a school which prides itself on its good behavior, etc., BYU's DiLuigi dropped the "F Bomb" on the sidelines on national TV. ESPN showed the outburst (when he hit himself with his helmet then started to walk off) several times, and even in slow motion. Just goes to show that even at BYU no one is perfect.

    About the game though...great game! Though the Aggies lost, it was a great game to watch. Go Aggies!!!

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 9:00 a.m.

    First of all I'm a big Jake Heaps fan - he has a big arm and has proven himself last year as a potential great QB HOWEVER something is wrong with Jake this year. I don't know if it is Doman's offense or what but Jake isn't Jake anymore. He can't connect on easy throws and he panics. The ball is too high or too hard consistently. BYU won last night because of Nelson and I admit that. Reily did the job. He surprisingly made accurate throws and his running totally messed Utah State up. He deserves total credit for the win. Nelson isn't going to lead BYU anywhere this year but last night he was a great back up QB!! If BYU is going to do anything this year Heaps has got to fix himself ... and soon!!

    Also Utah State out played BYU and really deserved the win ..just like against Auburn. I feel bad for Gary Andersen because USU should be 4-0 right now on the season.

  • Nostradamus Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 9:00 a.m.

    I have a couple kids going to Utah State - so I was clearly hoping the Aggies could pull this of.

    I am a Utah Fan (big time) - but, I have to admit I really enjoyed watching Riley Nelson play football. Gritty, hard working, seemed more about team than about himself...very good job!

    Nice win Cougs...nice to see you finish a game hard. I hope you have a new QB.

  • UTE Fan in Texas Prosper, TX
    Oct. 1, 2011 9:02 a.m.

    Good win for the Cougars last night. It really is too bad that someone had to lose. Riley is the man of the hour. I think last night showed the Cougar coaching staff that Nelson needs to be in the game as he has a passion for the game that Heaps just doesn't have. I know Heaps put up some amazing stats in high school, but this is not high school. If the coaching staff used the "come to BYU and you'll start" in their recruiting of Heaps, then this might be a good time to re-evalute and let him know they were just kidding.

  • HugMe Logan, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 9:11 a.m.

    Aggie Fan here. I have read everyone of these posts. It has taken me until this morning to even want to talk about the game.

    Observations on the comments. Mostly classy comments by BYU fans. Mostly classy comments by USU fans.

    Observations on the game:

    The ejection shocked me, but the back-up safety played as well as anyone else in the secondary (that's not saying much).

    The changing of QBs was an excellent move. Aggies were on their heals the rest of the game.

    Keeton is solid.

    The Aggies can run the ball. Three very good running backs, but this also is a reflection on the offensive line.

    Keeton is solid. Rarely makes a bad decision.

    The Aggies need to keep playing the last 2 minutes like they have player the first 58 minutes.

    A loss to an opponent, who to the Aggies is a big rival, can have a lasting effect for the rest of the season. How will the Aggies respond? The Aggies can still make it to a bowl game. I hope they keep their heads up after a loss that can be described as devastating.

  • Really??? Kearns, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 9:12 a.m.

    If pushing the ball 96 yards across the field to score a touchdown is what you call luck, I will take it. Yes, catching the deflected pass to score could be considered luck, but the receiver was watching the ball and adjusted to make the catch. If he hadn't caught the ball, please don't tell me that Riley would not have used that final eleven seconds to find the end zone. He had determination, and I don't doubt that he would have made it in if he had to do it one more time.

  • bluecoug89 Highland, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 9:16 a.m.

    I think it's funny how people who hate BYU give up their Friday nights to watch BYU lose. . . and then win. That must make them so mad to know that they just watched the team they hate win. By the way, everyone's saying that BYU fans are stupid for storming the field. Come on U fans, we know we aren't as good as you guys this year, we accept it, but can't you let us have some fun? I mean, are you guys that lame and heartless that you can't let fans be excited for their team? Talk about being self-righteous.

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Oct. 1, 2011 9:18 a.m.

    Sports nutzz
    Many props for you getting on the board after a loss like that. Aggies need to learn to finish games and they might salvage this season. My hats off to Riley for mounting a great comeback. Heaps needs to sit and learn for a while. If Bronco starts him next week there needs to be some serious thought on if he stays HC at BYU or gets moved to D Coordinator.

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 9:19 a.m.

    Well, after a few hours sleep I still believe that the Cougars were the better team last night, Ute partisan comments about USU domination notwithstanding. I guess Utah "dominated USC" when they lost in LA as well. Too funny!!

    I think it's humorous that so many Ute fans watched the game. Good thing it was on ESPN.

    I find it interesting that the Utah Institute has told their students "Go to the football game and we'll record Priesthood Meeting," rather than "Go to Priesthood Meeting and we'll record the Football Game." It kinda makes one wonder what they'll say when Utah has to play on Sunday in the PAC 12. But that's the price to be in a secular conference, one that hates religion to the max. Utah fits their mold, too, according to the PAC 12. I'm not surprised.

    Go Huskies!!

  • bluecoug89 Highland, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 9:20 a.m.

    @ D'Anconia,

    You say that you will never post on our articles again this year. Did anyone notice that he has ever posted in the first place? I've never heard of you before. Whether you post or not it makes no difference.

  • usufann SLC, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 9:23 a.m.

    The BYU team definitely showed everyone who the REAL leader of the team is!! When Riley came out the team changed? Why don't the players show that intensity when Heaps?

    The real glory is being knocked to your knees and then coming back. That's real glory. That's the essence of it.
    Vince Lombardi

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Oct. 1, 2011 9:27 a.m.

    Ute fans two things:"

    1. Magic Happens!

    2. Have you seen Wynnie's hair lately? talk about needing a haircut, he looks like goldilocks.

  • technonerd7 orem, ut
    Oct. 1, 2011 9:27 a.m.

    Really,

    No doubt, he had a great 96 yard drive. And that 50(?) yard bomb with McKay sprinting to catch it was AMAZING!! Best play of the year by far. And the most fun game to watch for sure. Let's see what next week brings. Start Heaps, keep him on a short leash, and bring Riley in after 1 quarter if Heaps is not doing the job. Big games coming up with a struggling Oregon State on the road and a TCU team that will be looking to put a hard licking on us. We don't need a QB controversy. If Jake doesn't get it done next week and Riley does, I think all Cougar fans unite behind Riley.

    Co Cougs

  • JustGordon Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 9:27 a.m.

    Not a good team, but very lucky team. Tough luck for the Aggies, especially when you out played them the whole game.

    Nelson is the better quarterback of the two.

    The Y's defense is certainly suspect to the run.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    Oct. 1, 2011 9:32 a.m.

    It's hard for me to understand how Heaps was rated so high coming out of HS..... I mean he was suppose to be among the best that the University has ever had and he's not even close to acceptable.... I like his attitude, but he has a very difficult time matching his "play" with his "talk".... I think that some of it is that he was over-rated, some of it is because he has a Rookie OC, and some of it is because he doesn't get enough time with a Good Position Coach (which I think is also the Rookie OC)..... I think that if some of this stuff happened he would be better but he still has some basic Athleticism issues.... He's slow, doesn't have great vision, is afraid of taking hits, and has a slow release. Perhaps if he would have Red Shirted a year and worked on his strength, quickness and his release he could come back and have two fabulous years.... But right now he's a yawner.

  • bluecoug89 Highland, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 9:35 a.m.

    I love how people say that the team that lost should have won. In that case, I'm just going to go out on a limb and say that BYU should have beat Utah. It's the same thing, right? When people say that it's just their lame excuse as to why the team they wanted to win lost and the team they hate won (yes U fans, that is you). The team that won, deserved to win. If Utah State won, they would have deserved to win but BYU won and they deserved to win. How is it possible that the "worst team" was able to go 96 yards in 2 minutes against the "best team"? If the "best team" was really the "best team" they would have and should have stopped us. I don't know what's going to happen in the game tonight, but I hope Utah wins (I'm not like the rest of you U fans who have no lives) but if you lose I wonder how many people are going to come on saying "we should have won". Just an observation.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    Oct. 1, 2011 9:37 a.m.

    Doman is very weak as a coach and as an OC..... It's like he doesn't take into account the strength of his players when he maps out formations and offensive plays..... If Nelson is QB he needs to install the option, the picks with the receivers, and some use of the old shovel passes on the option......If Heaps is the QB he needs to focus on getting the ball into the hands of his Receivers over the middle and use the screen alot more...

    Anyway that's my two cents.

  • TheNun Granstville, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 9:47 a.m.

    dden,

    Sure you were pulling for nelson last year. If that's true, you were the only one who wanted riley over st. jake. afterall, heaps-of-fun was going to be the firt two time heisman winner since Archie Griffin, at lest that's the hype emanating from provo last year.

    Now, everyone's jumping off the st. jake bandwagon and piling nelson's. Typical

  • yankees27 Heber, Utah
    Oct. 1, 2011 9:48 a.m.

    Hey Jarkarus, two things:

    1. that "magic happens" thing has ran its course, even Collie said he was sick of being asked about it.

    2. At the U, we aren't judgmental about silly things like how long someones hair is, or if they have facial hair. I mean, how stupid is that anyway? If you like your hair short, wear it that way, if not, don't be judgmental about the way a young man decides for himself how to groom. Ridiculous.

  • Super Trooper SLC, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 9:51 a.m.

    Another Favorite Moment:

    byu player hits himself on the bare head with his helmet TWICE and then.....

    Drops the "F" bomb on national tv.

    Probably won't make the fireside video!!!

  • Mr. Universe Logan, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 9:58 a.m.

    It definitely was an exciting game last night. You gotta feel bad for the Aggies with the 3 tough losses they've had this year but give BYU credit for fighting to the end. Both teams played hard and have good teams. I just don't understand why everyone has to find fault in everything BYU does. Give both team's player credit for their hard work on the field. I love the Aggies but you gotta give BYU some credit pulling off that come back win. I hope the Aggies can pull it together and learn how to win the close games and get to a bowl game. I also think Robert Turbin is a stud and will be playing at the next level. Bronco mentioned after the game that Turbin ran him down in the tunnel to congratulate him on the victory. Turbin is a class act.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Oct. 1, 2011 10:08 a.m.

    Can you hear the ute fans whining. Cougs play cream puffs and we the tough teams of the pac-12. Than they'll brag about not playing Stanford or Oregon and deserving the Rose Bowl. Chris B is the cougar good luck charm.

  • TheHailstorm South Weber, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 10:16 a.m.

    @ wardu
    Wasn't to hard considering the High school game got two places. I imagine we'll see BYU on the Sports center Top Ten because without the NBA this fall BYU's games on Friday Nights are about the only game in town.
    So much the better for all of the Utah teams as I am sure Gary Anderson and his coaching staff are going to show that these losses are an indication about how solid the Utah State Program is now.
    I felt bad for the Aggie in the loss but remain very proud of their spirit and efforts.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Oct. 1, 2011 10:26 a.m.

    There's more disgruntled ute fans than Aggies. This validates Max Hall. Anderson is a good coach and it won't be long till the fourth quarter goes his way.

  • Steven S Jarvis Orem, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 10:28 a.m.

    Little old ladies from Provo to Saint George want Sampson (Riley) to cut his hair.

  • bluecoug89 Highland, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 10:31 a.m.

    So many people are saying that Utah State should have won, but they didn't. Don't get me wrong, Utah State is a great team who plays quality ball but this game wasn't decided by another team's mistakes. There was only one turnover the entire game and that was DiLuigi's fumble. This game was decided by raw, good football played by both teams. I agree, Utah State was winning basically the whole game but for a team to be able to come out like that, play hard and with heart like they did, and win is special.

  • Wildcat O-town, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 10:35 a.m.

    @Super Trooper:

    I was thinking the same thing. For better or worse (usually it's worse) the BYU football teams represent the LDS religion. You are not going to win the hearts and minds of people by cussing up a storm, or doing the double arm flex after you tackled Turbin for a twenty-yard gain, or standing over a player trash-talking. The helmet-to-helmet on Christopher a couple of weeks ago wasn't classy either--no ejection--or penalty for that matter.

    BYU fans, I want you to watch how Patterson and TCU comport themselves when you play them. You will see a coach that doesn't put up with the sideshow antics and a team that is classy.

    That being said, I will come to the defense of Riley Nelson (never thought I would say that). You are upset about his haircut? Please give the kid a break. What happened about giving others the benefit of the doubt? Plus from all artists' renditions that I have seen, I don't think the Savior sported a high and tight.

    Thanks for a laugh. USU needs a psychologist stat! Cheers everybody. Have a great weekend!

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Oct. 1, 2011 10:36 a.m.

    Anyone who suggests that Heaps starts next week (and then let Riley come in if it's not working out) is NUTS.

    Riley Nelson earned the starting spot last night, PERIOD. I say, let Nelson start, and then if (and a big if) it doesn't work out, then let Lark try a few snaps.

    Heaps is #3 on my depth chart.

  • Ldsfan South Jordan, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 10:44 a.m.

    Worldwide exposure. Espn keeps showing the BYU player dropping the f bomb over and over. I realize that is common language in football but BYU is under a microscope. Way to expose.

  • MiP Iowa City, IA
    Oct. 1, 2011 10:52 a.m.

    You have to feel bad for Utah State. If the Aggies could put people away, they would be 4-0 instead of 1-3.

    Pretty exciting game. I'd say if your QB gets two TD drives in the final quarter (more than doubling the offensive output up to that point), including a 96 yard drive in 2.5 minutes, you've earned the starting spot. Nelson is more similar to Doman, and perhaps that will be the right combo. Perhaps.

    Having said that, I had predicted a 27-17 win for BYU. The fact that this game was that close, took a last second TD to win, and was at home, does not change my opinion that overall, this BYU team is OK, but not great. Even playing winless Oregon State or a Hawaii team that lost to UNLV does not appear to be guarenteed victories, much less TCU.

    Still, it's provided some quality entertainment, provide the games are close and not 44 point defeats.

    Good luck BYU and USU the rest of the way.

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Oct. 1, 2011 10:58 a.m.

    "It just so happens that this is one of those rare games when the winning team had absolutely no business taking the victory."

    Tomahawk Red | 12:06 a.m. Oct. 1, 2011

    Hey Redhead: Kinda like the BYU/utah game last year, huh??

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Oct. 1, 2011 11:12 a.m.

    yeah Di Luigi you should take some lessons from Oregon, the Buckeyes or Thug U. Maybe give L. Blount or M. Clarrett a call for some advice, how utterly devastating to BYU that you said a couple of bad words in an emotional win in the last second.

  • runnerguy50 Virginia Beach, Va
    Oct. 1, 2011 12:51 p.m.

    Funny how the play calling was fine with Riley in the game. Folks, Dorman is not the problem, Heaps was the poblem ,Nelson is the answer.

  • Utes Fan Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 1:35 p.m.

    It is a bit surprising to see a few Cougar fans trash talking with Ute fans. Ute fans can give you 54 reason why that is not a good idea.

    Still, Nelson did a great job for BYU. However, I would at some time like to see Heaps develop into a good QB - I hope it still happens.

  • bobco SOUTH JORDAN, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 1:38 p.m.

    Went back and re-watched this game. BYU is in a bad situation. I saw some bad throws and decisions by Heaps, but I saw some dropped passes also. The reason that the change to Riley worked was b/c USU had not planned for him and couldn't adjust. I certainly don't think Riley is the answer here. I give him all the credit in the world for what he did. Fans need to look at a bigger picture here, though. It is really telling listening to some of the players speak of rallying around Riley and playing harder when he came into the game. This says that there are pride issues on this team and they are not giving Jake the support he needs. Yes, he has made some mistakes, but he is a sophomore. Do we remember John Beck at that point? Kind of ugly! I think I really lost respect for Jacobsen and Ogletree with their telling comments after the game. Clearly these players have an issue with Heaps beyond his play. They basically said they weren't playing hard until Riley came into the game. Not a great sign.

  • relientk Lindon, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 1:55 p.m.

    Riley Nelson is like Moses leading the disgruntled children of Israel (offense) out of bondage (Jake Heaps' lack of performance).

  • Old Navy Provo, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 2:03 p.m.

    Now that Nelson is the starter, where is Heaps transferring to?

  • Thriller Saint George, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 2:20 p.m.

    Does anyone else think that Colin Kaepernick left the 49ers, changed his name to Chuckie Keeton (sounds so made-up) and enrolled at Utah State as a freshman? I mean, they look identical, they play identical (except Kaepernick usually won the close ones), and when was the last time you ever saw both of them in the same room? Exactly.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Oct. 1, 2011 2:23 p.m.

    It's amazing how sports reveal the true character of people. Remember the words of Garth Vader--"let the hatred flow through your veins and come to the dark side". It's getting dangerous going to opposing teams home field. I like football, and it's an entertaining event, but its just a game. An escape from daily routine and stress.

  • Dektol Powell, OH
    Oct. 1, 2011 2:31 p.m.

    Friday night with the rest of the High Schools... perfect for these two.

  • bobco SOUTH JORDAN, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 2:31 p.m.

    I am interested to see what everyone so high on Riley for this one game will be saying when teams plan for him (actually one team at this point TCU) and he is ineffective throwing lame ducks around the field. BYU was never winning the NC. Heaps needs to still have the time to develop, especially now going into the softer part of the schedule where he can gain confidence and have the best chance to figure this thing out. If you have actually watched him play you know he is capable. He was making it happen last year near the end. Yes the competition was bad, but he is learning. He played well against Utah last year. Don't play Riley Nelson. Riley helped get the win last night, but he could be what puts BYU in a rut for a couple of years. Stick with Heaps! I'd rather take the chance of getting heaps to his potential than having identity issues playing an option QB who can't throw well.

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 2:35 p.m.

    257 comments on BYU vs. WAC team in 14 hours.

    What are the odds in getting 80 posts on Utah in the same time.

    More BYU haters than Utah fans?

    I just hope Utah gets a win against a BCS team...

  • SyracuseCoug Syracuse, ut
    Oct. 1, 2011 2:47 p.m.

    To the Ute trolls- thank you for taking the time out of your busy Friday nights to watch the team you hate so much and add a few more television sets to the final ESPN numbers.

    To USU, keep your heads up, you have a great team and Coach Anderson is doing amazing things up in Logan, good luck on the rest of your season, I hope you guys make a bowl game this year.

    It was a fun game to watch, our stands were shaking big time in the north end zone.

    Lots of things to work out still, but BYU just needs to take it one game at a time.

    And stop judging Riley's hair and JJ's language (who isn't even LDS), you sound very self-righteous and hypocritical, I certainly was no angel at that age either.

    Great win Cougs!

    p.s., I agree on the whole stupid rushing the field thing, but whatever, I probably would have rushed it too when I was younger.

  • 54-10 Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 3:04 p.m.

    Still stings

  • D'Anconia Providence, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 3:06 p.m.

    Bluecoug89 wrote to me:

    "I've never heard of you before. Whether you post or not it makes no difference."

    Wow! I feel so insignificant. Thanks. I don't comment a lot but I like college football and follow Utah, BYU, and USU. Since there are many BYU fans here who complain about Utah fans commenting on BYU articles (is it their favorite stat?), I was just stating why I was commenting on this article and that this would be the last article that I will appear on.

    jarka-rus wrote:

    "Have you seen Wynnie's hair lately? talk about needing a haircut, he looks like goldilocks."

    Two thing about that. There is no rule at Utah about grooming and he is growing his hair to honor his late grandmother, who died of cancer earlier this year. He is donating it to "Locks of Love"

  • RantBully Bend, OR
    Oct. 1, 2011 3:33 p.m.

    Riley Nelson's motivating heart is a good reason why his hair should not be cut. Something to learn from.

  • GAmom Athens, GA
    Oct. 1, 2011 4:34 p.m.

    Sitting here laughing at all the comments of visceral hate from all 3 Utah teams. You need to come down to the SEC and get a little class and respect. the only team I dislike any given Saturday is whoever is playing GA. Otherwise I love sitting and watching and rooting for all the other SEC teams playing. Love the BYU/USU game for the nailbiting game it was. And look forward to cheering to Utes tonight.

  • The Deuce Livermore, CA
    Oct. 1, 2011 4:35 p.m.

    My question is why did it take 3 games to understand you needed a quarterback with heart. I like what I saw in Nelson and his drive to make things happen. Heaps would never run like he wanted it. He just ddi not have the heart for the game as of yet. I am still suspect of the coaching staff. However, they did start to turn things around in the 3rd Qtr last night. Great game to watch.

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 4:37 p.m.

    Rileys hair looks great, within the guidelines.
    Would you prefer Jakes 3rd grade summer buzz cut?
    Back off you fanatic goofs. You make us all look nuts.
    The Pres. Wilkinson years are not coming back.
    As Bruce R. McKonkie once said, "The Church has no need for the fanatic".

    As for some spicey language now and again. Try peeking into the tens of thousands of BYU fans households during the last month of Jake Heaps' ineffective leadership. And then, he who is without sin, caste the first stone.

    Were any of you sitting on the first 10 rows, east side, during the Detmer years? Or any year for that matter. Roger French, Dick felt anyone?

    When you have all perfected yourselves, then maybe you can pop off, until then, look in your own mirror and hold your fire.

    Good Grief!

  • jimmyO MAGNA, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 5:11 p.m.

    two things-
    first, i love riley nelson, i think he should start the next game. he looked a lot better against utah state than he did the couple of series he played against utah a few weeks ago.

    second, byu played a better 4th quarter than utah state. the momentum of the game shifts when byu holds usu to a field goal at the beginning of the quarter. usu has been beastly in the red zone this year (13 td 2 fg on 15 tries). after that byu was a solid football team except for the diluigi fumble which byu rebounded from nicely and set themselves up to have a game winning drive.

    usu is a good team and they played a good game byu was just better the final 15 minutes.

  • taylor28 RIVERTON, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 5:50 p.m.

    Absolutely agree with bobco's two posts!

    Heaps is not the problem, in fact I saw a lot of progress from him yesterday. BYU has a deeper issue at this point as bobco pointed out... the team is quitting on Heaps. This is a coaching issue, big time. Doman is not working out as the OC, and the defense wasn't weak yesterday. Ironically, Heaps is one of the bright spots on the team.

    To be fair, I was down on Heaps early too. But over the last couple games, espcially this one, Heaps has done markedly better. If they go with Nelson, I'm done with BYU football for this year at least.

  • taylor28 RIVERTON, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 5:52 p.m.

    Wish you could edit posts... meant to say the defense WAS weak yesterday.

  • BYUte06 Beverly Hills, CA
    Oct. 1, 2011 6:11 p.m.

    Congrats on the win cougars - you really have a knack for the miracle play! It happens enough to show it's not just coincidence, and the team staying in the game shows remarkable improvement.

    Nelson's post game comments are great, humble, deflecting, respectful of the opponent, what you want in a leader for the team. It'll be interesting to see how the QB position shakes up in the coming weeks.

    Sad, sad day for the aggies. Someone needs to call a cardiologist because I don't think the aggie faithful can endure any more heartbreakers.

  • Stang08 Cedar City, Utah
    Oct. 1, 2011 7:47 p.m.

    Will people stop crying. USU lost please get over it. They lose all the time.

  • bluecoug89 Highland, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 8:32 p.m.

    @D'Anconia,

    My bad bro, I thought you were one of those annoying Ute Trolls because they always post things like "this is the last time I'll ever post" and then they turn around and do it again but I was wrong. I hope we're good.

  • SyracuseCoug Syracuse, ut
    Oct. 1, 2011 8:33 p.m.

    Well, after the Ute game tonight, hopefully the trolls will be quiet for a few weeks......Chris b....cough, cough.

  • Oh, please! Saint George, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 8:50 p.m.

    And I quote from the BYU Honor Code for men: Hairstyles should be clean and neat, avoiding extreme styles or colors, and trimmed above the collar, leaving the ear uncovered.

    I suspect that if Riley Nelson had a dress shirt on, his hair would be pretty close but not quite to the collar...and his ears are not covered. Therefore, he is not in violation of the honor code.

    Let's stick to the facts about the BYU honor code, the game stats, and whatever else.

  • cedarpost Washington, Utah
    Oct. 1, 2011 11:07 p.m.

    what were you thinking falslev. catching the ball on a punt is the FIRST priority, something you learn in 3rd grade.

  • Sports Nutz Smithfield, UT
    Oct. 1, 2011 11:09 p.m.

    Stang how did SUU do today against Desert Hills? Oh I forgot that is next week, today they played the powerhouse you call ND State?

  • cedarpost Washington, Utah
    Oct. 1, 2011 11:16 p.m.

    @bobco: beck was way better than heaps as a sophomore

  • barefeet KENT, WA
    Oct. 1, 2011 11:25 p.m.

    I'm so glad Doman got rid of Heaps and brought in Nelson. Now, all BYU needs to do is get rid of Doman. Both Doman and Heaps are not good at all. This should be Nelson's team for the rest of the season. TCU lost today (10/01/11) which means BYU will be destroyed when the two teams play. Hawaii is a much better team than BYU, so that will be another loss. I think BYU should just play Ole Miss and USU all year long since those are the only wins they will get this season.

  • Terry Sandy, UT
    Oct. 2, 2011 12:27 a.m.

    The entire team supported Riley Nelson as a leader and played much harder with him playing QB. He made some great passes and had some amazing runs and is hard for any team to plan for whether they have advance notice or not. (200+ QB rating!) At the very least, they need to keep the Riley Nelson express going until it is proven that it just won't work long term. Heaps has had more than enough chances to prove that this year and he just does not have it nor the support of his team mates based on what we have seen on the field.

    BTW, it was another player that asked Doman to put Nelson in the game to do what he had done in spring practice and that request started the whole ball rolling and you could see a light switch turn on with the entire team on both ends of the field after that happened. Hopefully this train keeps on rolling, you can always red shirt Heaps next year!

  • bobco SOUTH JORDAN, UT
    Oct. 2, 2011 2:47 a.m.

    @cedarpost: Okay okay, I went back and looked at the stats. If we average the stats Beck vs. Heaps then beck was a little better. That is taking in to account Becks whole year vs. Heaps 5 games. Beck had more patsies to pad the stats with though. It's tough to compare that unless Jake starts and plays the rest of the year. However, I also looked at Jake's Freshman #'s and they are pretty close to Beck's sophomore #'s. Sorry Beck was not way better. He was BARELY better and we are comparing Jake freshman to Beck Sophomore. Go look, it's all on BYU's website!

    Jake played better last year and a couple of things have changed since then 1)The play calling and play caller and 2) the teams effort and support for Heaps (as verified by player comments).

    The problem seems obvious here...

  • 1Infidel APO, AE
    Oct. 2, 2011 5:03 a.m.

    I keep reading comments about the OC and the play-calling. But no one offers what plays they would call instead...interesting. I have to agree with Bronco on the ignorance of what goes on in fan's minds with their ignorance as to game plan preparations.

    Heaps, with his now couple years at least of media studies and coaching, keeps saying he is going to learn from each week's experience. Again, like above, he is too cautious to mention any specifics. He still looks afraid to get hit, and to check off on receivers long enough to make good decisions, and throws too quickly, with poor mechanics and with pretty awful results for one so hyped and entitled.

    He should have had to go through the LaVell process of earning his time on the field after watching for a couple of years.

    SJSU beat CSU yesterday at Ft Collins who I believe beat USU on the road more convincingly, Idaho lost by one point to Virgina in Charlottesville of the ACC, TCU got embarrassed by SMU, and New Mexico State beat the Lobos yesterday...these coming games could be interesting and hope the stands are filled for the home games.

  • usufann SLC, UT
    Oct. 2, 2011 8:43 a.m.

    Relive the game's highlights- Ode to Riley Nelson's Hair on You Tube!!

    Whoever made this did a great Job!!!

  • Doug10 Roosevelt, UT
    Oct. 2, 2011 9:03 a.m.

    Seems that BYU football has achieved the level of University of Utah basketball...OUCH

  • CaptainFD LITTLETON, CO
    Oct. 2, 2011 9:11 a.m.

    I was hoping USU would win...but they didn't... and something as good as a win came into place. Mendenhall woke up and quit believing in the Heaps "PR and Hype" bandwagon and benched him and brought in a "shut up and play football" athlete. Riley is the real deal and offers so much more offensive capabilities.

    Now Mendenhall needs to keep making better decisions as a football coach and not as a "fireside" coach or he needs to get benched too. One down and one to go in my opinion. Strange how the team understands who the play maker and real leader is when the coaching staff didn't. A player had to tell the coaches Riley needed to go in.

    Thanks Riley and those BYU team members for stepping up and making BYU football honorable and not excuse laden again.

    That third and fourth Riley Nelson Quarters were BYU football again. I wish we could bring back LaVell.

  • Owl Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 2, 2011 9:24 a.m.

    Coach Andersen pointed out the poor officiating and implied that things would be different if calls had gone his way. He doesn't mention the non-calls of holding on their first play and many other offensive pass interference calls and holding call that weren't made on USU. Things even out. The outcome was determined by plays that were made by BYU and not made by USU.

  • relientk Lindon, UT
    Oct. 2, 2011 12:35 p.m.

    @taylor28

    You are done with BYU football if Nelson starts? Your problem isn't with Heaps? Are you related to Jake or do you just need your brain checked?

  • bobco SOUTH JORDAN, UT
    Oct. 2, 2011 3:19 p.m.

    Everyone who is saying a player told Bronco to put Nelson in needs to go back and listen to what Bronco said. That is not what happened. Doman talked to Bronco and made the decision. A player (Ogletree) then told Bronco he believed in Riley and referred to the spring scrimmage. Keep the facts straight.

    @CaptainFD "That third and fourth Riley Nelson Quarters were BYU football again."

    Last I checked BYU is not an option team, except for a couple of years with Doman who did have Luke Staley.

    Again Thank you Riley for coming in and giving a spark to the team. He took USU, who was unprepared for him running all over the place, by surprise. It won't work every game and Riley can't throw the ball. Lets not refer to a quarter and a half of football here. Lets take into account all of Riley's snaps at BYU. One quarter of a surprise attack does not make a starting QB.

    Everyone will be singing a different tune when Riley plays against TCU and is ineffective.

    Everyone was singing Heaps praises after playing UTEP. How quickly it turns.

  • bobco SOUTH JORDAN, UT
    Oct. 2, 2011 3:22 p.m.

    @1Infidel: Fans aren't paid to make offensive play calls, but what we do know is that Heaps was playing better at the end of last year and one of the things that has changed is the play calling. Not to mention switching the offensive scheme.

  • usufann SLC, UT
    Oct. 2, 2011 3:36 p.m.

    @taylor28??? and bobco..You must be related to Heaps. Did you hear the crowd? Heaps is not a leader!! If Heaps starts, there will be more than just you done with BYU!!

  • CougarOnTheProwl Murray, UT
    Oct. 2, 2011 7:57 p.m.

    Nice Rally by Riley, time for Heaps to spend some time on the bench.The team just responds better to Riley and Heaps has completely lost his confidence. Its not the end of the world for Heaps, he is still very young and will probably get another opportunity at some point. It might do him some good and maybe its what Heaps needs. He needs to mature, learn to become more of a leader and find a way to regain his confidence.

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Oct. 2, 2011 9:25 p.m.

    After the performance put on by Riley Nelson, how could ANYONE bring up the "hair" issue, let alone notice it. Good grief, what's wrong with some of you people??

  • CaptainFD LITTLETON, CO
    Oct. 3, 2011 10:06 a.m.

    @ bobco. Pretty obvious you are somehow part of the "Heaps hype" bandwagon. It would be interesting to know your connection to him. He has done pretty much "nothing" as a college QB...and I take issue with the Hype and his followers saying he will be better than the greats i.e. McMahon, Young, Detmer, etc...

    Concerning "BYU football again": I wasn't specifically talking about an "option offense" I was talking about actually moving the ball and excitement and winning without having to make excuses or statements like "the better team didn't win last year". BYU football would be better without Heaps and Mendenhall...they are mostly "talk" and arrogant.

  • BP Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 3, 2011 10:29 a.m.

    Great game! I am a little surprised by the number of Utah fans posting on the article. With the way Utah DESTROYED BYU, and with the fact that Washington was coming to town the next day, I would have thought that Utah had bigger fish to fry. Apparently, I was wrong. I don't know if some Utah fans can ever leave BYU alone, no matter what happens in the rivalry or the college football landscape. By the way...whatever illness BYU had on Sept. 17th appears to have been contagious. Here's hoping that both teams can recover sufficiently to put together decent seasons.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Oct. 3, 2011 11:12 a.m.

    Go ahead and go with Nelson and see how many games you win going forward BYU. A hint: it won't be more than 5. Nelson is a funky running QB that only throws with some success because defenses don't think he can throw - and they concentrate on shutting down his running game. You will win a game or two with Nelson but BYU will have back to back losing seasons if Nelson is the QB going forward. Be careful what you ask for Y fans because Heaps is too good to take his place on the bench. He will transfer and I wouldn't be surprised to see Utah and Norm Chow try to get him.

  • Stang08 Cedar City, Utah
    Oct. 3, 2011 2:39 p.m.

    Are you kidding me people are still whinning even on this paper. I thought all the whinners where in Logan. Great game BYU. It's to bad you can't shut the USU fans up.