I wonder if Doman saw all those incomplete passes- overthrows, throwing behind
the receivers, etc. Maybe it's time he get fired as QB coach- so someone else
can help Jake get things together.
"My performance wasn't that great, but we got the W," said Heaps.
"More importantly, I can learn from it."Now, someone needs
to teach Heaps how to throw long passes that guys can run under, not catch up
to! He seems to have no idea of touch.
I wonder if Doman felt a little less distracted by the sideline frey in being up
in the booth.Play calling was still odd at times, but great at
times.Mixed bag for me.Hope they keep Doman up there for
at least two more games. Maybe he'll settle in to some consistent play
calling.It'd help, though, if Jake had some accuracy.I
think Jake's too jittery in live games to throw as well as he does in practice.
He might just be one of those practice gurus but game flopper. Time will tell.
Jake Heaps, we already know you are not good. Stop bringing it up in every
interview. Remember, actions speak louder than words and quite frankly you and
Doman are not very good.
Dick was more impressed with the offense than I was. Their touchdowns drives
together didn't add up to 80 yards. Heaps has a good arm but no touch. He often
throws his passes before the play develops and doesn't seem to show a lot of
presence in the huddle. Special teams won this game.
"My performance wasn't that great, but we got the W," said Heaps.
"More importantly, I can learn from it.""We had to
earn it," said Heaps. "They weren't going to give it to us. It was
gratifying to see our guys make plays. It was good to see things go our way at
critical points in the game."----------------------------Tonight, we didn't lose because we didn't play as badly as UCF. Tonight, our QB sounded like he had an accurate, mature view of the game.
Tonight, I have hope for this talented kid and our team.
Heaps needs a full time QB coach. He is not "learning or getting better
" like he needs to. It looks like BYU should have hired an
experienced offensive Coordinator so that Doman could focus on heaps and perhaps
work as a co offensive coordinator for a while. Maybe Reynolds could help out
more. Maybe that will bring back the use of the tight end. Now that
BYU and Utah dont compete in the same conference, I am seeing how more people
can pull for both teams for most of the season. At least with Utah you can see
good coaching and less "personnel development" jargon.
The offense still needs lots work. Cougars should be passing for 300 yards adn
running for another 150 - 200. I still believe they have the talent, but time
will tell if they have the will. Way too many dropped passes for me tonight as
well. Heaps got the ball to the player and the player dropped them. Can't blame
Heaps for dropped passes. Special teams played very well. What was
the average punt? 60 yards or something. Wow. Defense gave up too many long
pass plays for comfort tonight. UCF did a good job of hiding their play, so
kudos to them. Now, go practice really good and get ready for Utah
State or we could see another debacle like last week. Go Cougars.
To all of you armchair QBs, I enjoyed the game, thought it was fun to watch, and
gratifying to see enough key plays made by special teams at critical times. Today we came into the game with different sets of issues: the run game,
field position, putting the ball in the end zone, etc. Now the
apparent problems are, one, on the defense all of the arm tackles that could
have cost us the game and the coverage issues, and two, the accuracy of Jake
Heaps. With the right protection and timing, Jake Heaps is an accurate QB. He
didn't really have either of those things tonight. As the run game continues to
improve and the line actually keeps the defense off of him, Heaps will get
better. Just be grateful for the win and leave the tweaking of the
X's and O's to the coaches next week.
Did he see the 2 touchdown passes that Heaps over threw? Did he see Heaps time
and time again choke on a big down? Did he see the ineffectiveness of Jake
Heaps be it in the pocket or on the roll? That's the question. The other
question is if he did indeed notice those shortcomings at QB, will he do
anything to correct it or will Heaps come out again next week to lose the game
to Utah State?
Speaking of "views" can someone please tell me why I should have hope
that Heaps will ultimately be the real deal? He's consistently inaccurate,
continues to overthrow his receivers, he has no mobility, and he loves to
telegraph his passes. Besides arm strength, can someone give me a nugget of
info that will get me fired up please?
I liked how we used Nelson on the option. I didn't like how we used him on 4th
and short to pass the ball. I'd bring Nelson in on every 3rd and short or
anytime we're inside the 5 yard line. I'd also like to see us use him as a RB
occasionally.No, I'm not trying to start a QB controversy. I'm
talking about 5 or 6 plays a game, instead of 1 or 2.
"What he saw is what ESPN hoped to see in his offense . . ."My goodness, Harmon. After your "Band of Bunglers" rant last week,
now you're mixing the blue Kool-Aid before drinking all of it. Think Valium
Still not completely sold on the offense. If we need to rely on special teams
and the defense the way we have the first few games to keep us in games, we're
in trouble. I'd like to see the offense be able to take care of scoring and
moving the ball. Scoring from defense and special teams is gravy.
BYU OFFENSE: IT'S NOT THE PLAYERS, IT'S LACK OF CONFIDENCE IN COORDINATORThe lack of the players' confidence in Offensive Coordinator Doman is
evident with their poor play. Never has BYU had more talent on Offense than
this year, and yet never has a BYU offense played so far under their potential
than this year. Thus far, only the Defense and Special Teams have kept BYU
competitive. 2010 - BYU DEFENSE - D Coordinator Hill: One of
the worst in the nation. Hill fired. - Defensive players: The same
players--no change. - Bronco takes over: One of the best in the
nation.2011 - BYU OFFENSE - O Coordinator Doman: One of the
worst in the nation. - Offensive players: The same players--no
change. - ?????? takes over: One of the best in the nation?Like 2010 with the Defense, a change needs to take place with the Offensive
Playcaller. O Coordinator Doman should NOT be fired, however, the playcalling
duties should be turned over to a coach with a wealth of experience on offense.
Someone who probably should have been named O Coordinator because of that
experience---Lance Reynolds. Make the change and watch the Offense
Love BYU's D, but the lack of a pass rush gave the other team's QB far too much
time last night. BYU's big d-line stuffs the run very well, but BYU needs to
send a 4th pass rusher more so opposing QB's feel some pressure.Speaking of pass rushers, Van Noy will go down as the best outside linebacker
in BYU's history when all is said and done. He MAKES PLAYS every game. And did
you see how high he jumped to tip the 4th quarter pass that led to an
interception? Wow.Jake Heaps panics, plain and simple. It is
evident in his bad decisions, in his facial expressions, in how hard and flat he
throws so many passes (yes, could improve the accuracy of his throws, yes, he
stares down his primary receiver every play, and yes he rockets every pass, even
the short ones, instead of throwing a catchable ball with touch) BUT he will get
better. He is just a sophomore, and he will calm down. Will help him to have
pumped-up coach Doman far away upstairs, and calm coach Reynolds on the
sidelines. BYU's CB's are good, while its Safeties make mistakes.
Still not impressed with the play calling. Worst play call of the night, 4th and
2 from about the 30 yd line. You call timeout, bring in Riley Nelson and he
throws a pass!! What is up with that? The guy has good speed, quick to the
outside, run some kind of option with him if you are bring him in, but throw the
ball. He's cold coming off the bench and you have him throw a pass??? Offense
still only puts up 17 points and has to be saved by a kickoff return for the
win. I am still not sure they beat USU next week.
BYU won despite Jake Hypes. Heaps was terrible last night. I was hoping they
would put in Gary Shiede who they honored at halftime.
I agree!! Riley Nelson can be dangerous!! He's very smart and knows what to do
in different situations. Heaps is still in the learning stage and everyone
(including coaches) are waiting and watching him emerge into what his
agent/publicist say he is suppose to become.
Key to heaps is a little bit of pressure. That's all.
When BYU turned the ball over and lost, BYU coaches/players said we gave the
game away, etcWhen UCF/BYU's opponent turned the ball over and lost,
BYU coaches/players said --and I quote--"We had to earn it," said
Heaps. "They weren't going to give it to us...."Where is
the sportmanship?Where is the humility?
I thought I saw Doman experimenting during the game and that his play calling,
though not without fault the whole game, got better as the game progressed.It might've been hard to see that because Jake kept screwing up
wide-open passes, but I think that was happening.So, I hope Doman
stays up top in future games.
As for Jake, I think I've figure him out.- He's afraid of getting
hurt, so when he gets rushed, he rushes or panics, and can't progress through
receivers, so fixates on his primary one.- During practice, where he
knows he won't get hurt, he's stellar. That applies to his performances in
camps, etc., where he got his #1 QB from high school ranking. It also applies to
high school performances because those defenses weren't strong enough to
threaten him. It also applies to most of last year's later games where Jake
performed better (except at Utah) because of weaker defenses that didn't
threaten his well-being. This year, four teams in a row have had defenses strong
enough to worry him.- He speaks as if he's all-world because he
believes he is, even though he's not performing as such. This comes from a
natural tendency with ALL people that they don't think badly of themselves. It
takes being humbled in some way, not necessarily in bad performances, but by
being called out on them by someone you trust, to get yourself out of that state
of denial.Not sure if Jake will get "healed."
BYU quarterbacks to forget, Steve Lindley, Bob Jensen, Jake Heaps. Time to
@WhatsInItForMeHeaps QB rating 100.5Wynn 118
Heaps panicks under pressure. If I'm a defensive coordinator I bring the house
on 75% of the plays and watch him crumble and make poor decisions. I'm still
not convinced the run game would hurt me either.
This team made no improvement on offense, none. Defense and Special Teams came
to play. Doman will be fine but Heaps better thank his publicist again because
he is turning out to be less than his hype and that is not Domans fault.
My bad, I meant to say "won" not "one".
Did the writer really say "Heaps looks comfortable" ? BYU whon despite
I wonder if Anae would come back if we made him head coach??? I'm ready to dump
Bronco ball and the Doman experiment already!! Yuk! BYU's offense is
horrible...worst I've seen in 10 years. Utah State will get its first win in
Provo next Friday night...
Everyone is all excited because we won.... We are still terrible.... We won
because of Turnovers and Special Teams Play (in fact our Special Teams and
Defense have generated more Offense through 4 games than Doman, Heaps and our
Offense)...Doman still calls more plays that go East and West rather
than North and South, Heaps QB Efficientcy has to be in the mid double digits
(while his talk is in the high three digits), and now our poor Pass Defense is
beginning to be exposed (particularly Eason's Corner). We truthfully
didn't deserve to win this game and any celebration is well over done. Sorry.
Not sure what game you were watching Dick. I saw an offense that still can't
get it done. They showed they can only get into the end zone when given a short
field. They still showed an inability to have a long sustained drive that ends
w/a TD. Still a very bad offense. If the offense doesn't make some sort of
quantam leap by friday, expect a second consecutive loss to USU . . . Uggh!
What is going on with Pendleton
260 yards of Offense, completion % below 50, and only 16 first downs on a
Conference USA squad is an improvement?
If Heaps can learn to put some touch on some of his passes, I think the calling
for Doman's head will quiet down.Patience in the youngins, is what I
Please no more quotes from Heaps!! He should be muffled until he learns how to
throw a football!!
Congrats to the entire Y football team. I did appreciate their effort that
resulted in victory. I can't wait 'til next game, 'cause the Cougs get better
every day, every way.
the Readers' digest of all the comments boils down to this...BYU needs a new QB
coach for Heaps and the rest of the QBs. Doman can then figure out the OC job or
be replaced in due time. Bronco is doing well with the defense. Special
teams is coming along nicely.
Bronco was right last year. It's ideal to start a quarterback who's learned the
ropes, shown leadership, and earned the respect of his teammates.Is
there anyone who thinks that a team led by Riley Nelson couldn't have gone 7-6
in 2010? I understand Nelson got hurt and Heaps got the gig full-time, but the
way it all went down showed indecisiveness and lack of leadership on Bronco's
part (which he's admitted).Thing is, we're used to having redshirt
freshmen or sophomores start at QB at BYU, but usually after they've served a
mission first. Heaps probably should be in South America preaching the
Gospel, maturing into a leader.Having said all of that, we have what
we have. A lot of the lack of performance / confidence by Heaps comes from
having a new OC, and not a lack of talent on Heaps' part. Changing quarterbacks
now is not the right move.It is apparent Doman has too much on his
plate to be both the OC and QB coach. DETMER FOR QB COACH or OC!!! Pay him
whatever it takes to get him to Provo next year!
@Cougar Claws from Lindon...Suggestion.... Why don't you direct your
comments and observations to the game and worry less about controlling what we
"Armchair Quarterbacks" have to say... Comments like that are
precisely why BYU fans get a bad name... You guys are always wanting to act like
you are the only adults in the room and as a result try to quash what other fans
have to say... Last I checked this is still America and people have the right to
say what they want about the game.... If you don't like it, don't read it.
This article was awful. What was old Dick harmon watching? Did he see the game
the rest of us saw? The offence was medicore and the defence gave up too many
big plays. The game was won by the special teams. And did anyone but me notice
that when the cougars ran to the outside that they were gaining yards. With the
exception of one drive, the run up the middle and between the guard and tackle
did not work. The three back rotation is not working very well. Use one
primary back so that he can get into the rythym of the game. I think that
DiLugi should get the ball more than he is. His first run was for 18 yards and
then he didn't get another carry for quite a while. This isn't that tough
folks. Bronco needs to take more interest in the offense and relize that no
matter where Brandon Doman is he can't call a game worth a darn!!!
You could take a mannequin and put Bronko's clothes on it, headset and all and
nobody would notice. That guy shows no emotion or fire at all. I've never heard
so many BYU fans complain about Bronko and his staff than I have the past couple
of seasons. Didn't he just get a new contract extension? I think the Y really
needs to clean house and make some big changes.
The defense played good, not great. To play great they need to cut down on all
the missed tackles. Way too many.
I don't think Heaps will ever be consistant until he losses his
"Happy" feel. They never seem to be set before he throws the ball. It
seems his feet are going one direction, his upper body going in another, and his
throwing motion in yet another direction.
USU will not recover from that loss last night. BYU wins 28-17. Utah loses its
next four in a row. You heard it hear first.
Awful QB and offensive coaching. Coach Doman gets a pass by too many people.
Just start with teaching Heaps to set his feet. If he can't do that, then we
have big trouble for the next 2.5 years.
Doman's in the booth now?Good!I understand that he
wanted to be down on the field to give Heaps some confidence but Doman should
have been RUNNING to get into the booth after we played so pathetically against
Texas in the second half. We literally gave that game away by (our offense)
playing simply to hang on, not playing to win.I don't know if
Mendenhall orderd him into the booth, but if I were head coach I would have done
so the second we lost to Texas.GO COUGARS!