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Dick Harmon: A Change of views provided Brandon Doman with plenty to see

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  • flynn is the coolest Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 23, 2011 11:16 p.m.

    I wonder if Doman saw all those incomplete passes- overthrows, throwing behind the receivers, etc. Maybe it's time he get fired as QB coach- so someone else can help Jake get things together.

  • WhatsInItForMe Orem, Utah
    Sept. 23, 2011 11:25 p.m.

    "My performance wasn't that great, but we got the W," said Heaps. "More importantly, I can learn from it."

    Now, someone needs to teach Heaps how to throw long passes that guys can run under, not catch up to! He seems to have no idea of touch.

  • WhatsInItForMe Orem, Utah
    Sept. 23, 2011 11:34 p.m.

    I wonder if Doman felt a little less distracted by the sideline frey in being up in the booth.

    Play calling was still odd at times, but great at times.

    Mixed bag for me.

    Hope they keep Doman up there for at least two more games. Maybe he'll settle in to some consistent play calling.

    It'd help, though, if Jake had some accuracy.

    I think Jake's too jittery in live games to throw as well as he does in practice. He might just be one of those practice gurus but game flopper. Time will tell.

  • barefeet KENT, WA
    Sept. 23, 2011 11:43 p.m.

    Jake Heaps, we already know you are not good. Stop bringing it up in every interview. Remember, actions speak louder than words and quite frankly you and Doman are not very good.

  • Kyle loves BYU/Jazz Provo, UT
    Sept. 23, 2011 11:44 p.m.

    Dick was more impressed with the offense than I was. Their touchdowns drives together didn't add up to 80 yards. Heaps has a good arm but no touch. He often throws his passes before the play develops and doesn't seem to show a lot of presence in the huddle. Special teams won this game.

  • manaen Buena Park, CA
    Sept. 23, 2011 11:57 p.m.

    "My performance wasn't that great, but we got the W," said Heaps. "More importantly, I can learn from it."

    "We had to earn it," said Heaps. "They weren't going to give it to us. It was gratifying to see our guys make plays. It was good to see things go our way at critical points in the game."

    ----------------------------

    Tonight, we didn't lose because we didn't play as badly as UCF.
    Tonight, our QB sounded like he had an accurate, mature view of the game. Tonight, I have hope for this talented kid and our team.

  • Outsideview Federal Way, WA
    Sept. 24, 2011 12:26 a.m.

    Heaps needs a full time QB coach. He is not "learning or getting better " like he needs to.

    It looks like BYU should have hired an experienced offensive Coordinator so that Doman could focus on heaps and perhaps work as a co offensive coordinator for a while. Maybe Reynolds could help out more. Maybe that will bring back the use of the tight end.

    Now that BYU and Utah dont compete in the same conference, I am seeing how more people can pull for both teams for most of the season. At least with Utah you can see good coaching and less "personnel development" jargon.

  • AK Cougar Palmer, AK
    Sept. 24, 2011 12:50 a.m.

    The offense still needs lots work. Cougars should be passing for 300 yards adn running for another 150 - 200. I still believe they have the talent, but time will tell if they have the will. Way too many dropped passes for me tonight as well. Heaps got the ball to the player and the player dropped them. Can't blame Heaps for dropped passes.

    Special teams played very well. What was the average punt? 60 yards or something. Wow. Defense gave up too many long pass plays for comfort tonight. UCF did a good job of hiding their play, so kudos to them.

    Now, go practice really good and get ready for Utah State or we could see another debacle like last week.

    Go Cougars.

  • Cougar Claws Lindon, UT
    Sept. 24, 2011 1:07 a.m.

    To all of you armchair QBs, I enjoyed the game, thought it was fun to watch, and gratifying to see enough key plays made by special teams at critical times.

    Today we came into the game with different sets of issues: the run game, field position, putting the ball in the end zone, etc.

    Now the apparent problems are, one, on the defense all of the arm tackles that could have cost us the game and the coverage issues, and two, the accuracy of Jake Heaps. With the right protection and timing, Jake Heaps is an accurate QB. He didn't really have either of those things tonight. As the run game continues to improve and the line actually keeps the defense off of him, Heaps will get better.

    Just be grateful for the win and leave the tweaking of the X's and O's to the coaches next week.

  • Pipes Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 24, 2011 7:09 a.m.

    Did he see the 2 touchdown passes that Heaps over threw? Did he see Heaps time and time again choke on a big down? Did he see the ineffectiveness of Jake Heaps be it in the pocket or on the roll? That's the question. The other question is if he did indeed notice those shortcomings at QB, will he do anything to correct it or will Heaps come out again next week to lose the game to Utah State?

  • Lee Corso American Fork, UT
    Sept. 24, 2011 7:30 a.m.

    Speaking of "views" can someone please tell me why I should have hope that Heaps will ultimately be the real deal? He's consistently inaccurate, continues to overthrow his receivers, he has no mobility, and he loves to telegraph his passes. Besides arm strength, can someone give me a nugget of info that will get me fired up please?

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Sept. 24, 2011 7:43 a.m.

    I liked how we used Nelson on the option. I didn't like how we used him on 4th and short to pass the ball. I'd bring Nelson in on every 3rd and short or anytime we're inside the 5 yard line. I'd also like to see us use him as a RB occasionally.

    No, I'm not trying to start a QB controversy. I'm talking about 5 or 6 plays a game, instead of 1 or 2.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Sept. 24, 2011 8:02 a.m.

    "What he saw is what ESPN hoped to see in his offense . . ."

    My goodness, Harmon. After your "Band of Bunglers" rant last week, now you're mixing the blue Kool-Aid before drinking all of it. Think Valium would help?

  • Bob Cratchet Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 24, 2011 8:20 a.m.

    Still not completely sold on the offense. If we need to rely on special teams and the defense the way we have the first few games to keep us in games, we're in trouble. I'd like to see the offense be able to take care of scoring and moving the ball. Scoring from defense and special teams is gravy.

  • MesaAZ Cougar MESA, AZ
    Sept. 24, 2011 8:47 a.m.

    BYU OFFENSE: IT'S NOT THE PLAYERS, IT'S LACK OF CONFIDENCE IN COORDINATOR

    The lack of the players' confidence in Offensive Coordinator Doman is evident with their poor play. Never has BYU had more talent on Offense than this year, and yet never has a BYU offense played so far under their potential than this year. Thus far, only the Defense and Special Teams have kept BYU competitive.

    2010 - BYU DEFENSE
    - D Coordinator Hill: One of the worst in the nation. Hill fired.
    - Defensive players: The same players--no change.
    - Bronco takes over: One of the best in the nation.

    2011 - BYU OFFENSE
    - O Coordinator Doman: One of the worst in the nation.
    - Offensive players: The same players--no change.
    - ?????? takes over: One of the best in the nation?

    Like 2010 with the Defense, a change needs to take place with the Offensive Playcaller. O Coordinator Doman should NOT be fired, however, the playcalling duties should be turned over to a coach with a wealth of experience on offense. Someone who probably should have been named O Coordinator because of that experience---Lance Reynolds.

    Make the change and watch the Offense respond!

    GO COUGARS!!!!!

  • Scott H. Sammamish, WA
    Sept. 24, 2011 9:00 a.m.

    Love BYU's D, but the lack of a pass rush gave the other team's QB far too much time last night. BYU's big d-line stuffs the run very well, but BYU needs to send a 4th pass rusher more so opposing QB's feel some pressure.

    Speaking of pass rushers, Van Noy will go down as the best outside linebacker in BYU's history when all is said and done. He MAKES PLAYS every game. And did you see how high he jumped to tip the 4th quarter pass that led to an interception? Wow.

    Jake Heaps panics, plain and simple. It is evident in his bad decisions, in his facial expressions, in how hard and flat he throws so many passes (yes, could improve the accuracy of his throws, yes, he stares down his primary receiver every play, and yes he rockets every pass, even the short ones, instead of throwing a catchable ball with touch) BUT he will get better. He is just a sophomore, and he will calm down. Will help him to have pumped-up coach Doman far away upstairs, and calm coach Reynolds on the sidelines.

    BYU's CB's are good, while its Safeties make mistakes.

  • fan29 Cedar Hills, UT
    Sept. 24, 2011 9:10 a.m.

    Still not impressed with the play calling. Worst play call of the night, 4th and 2 from about the 30 yd line. You call timeout, bring in Riley Nelson and he throws a pass!! What is up with that? The guy has good speed, quick to the outside, run some kind of option with him if you are bring him in, but throw the ball. He's cold coming off the bench and you have him throw a pass??? Offense still only puts up 17 points and has to be saved by a kickoff return for the win. I am still not sure they beat USU next week.

  • fan32 St. George, Utah
    Sept. 24, 2011 9:32 a.m.

    BYU won despite Jake Hypes. Heaps was terrible last night. I was hoping they would put in Gary Shiede who they honored at halftime.

  • jjteach SLC, UT
    Sept. 24, 2011 9:32 a.m.

    I agree!! Riley Nelson can be dangerous!! He's very smart and knows what to do in different situations. Heaps is still in the learning stage and everyone (including coaches) are waiting and watching him emerge into what his agent/publicist say he is suppose to become.

  • KamUte South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 24, 2011 9:48 a.m.

    Key to heaps is a little bit of pressure. That's all.

  • SoCalUtahFan Lake Forest, CA
    Sept. 24, 2011 10:29 a.m.

    When BYU turned the ball over and lost, BYU coaches/players said we gave the game away, etc

    When UCF/BYU's opponent turned the ball over and lost, BYU coaches/players said --and I quote--"We had to earn it," said Heaps. "They weren't going to give it to us...."

    Where is the sportmanship?
    Where is the humility?

  • WhatsInItForMe Orem, Utah
    Sept. 24, 2011 10:37 a.m.

    I thought I saw Doman experimenting during the game and that his play calling, though not without fault the whole game, got better as the game progressed.

    It might've been hard to see that because Jake kept screwing up wide-open passes, but I think that was happening.

    So, I hope Doman stays up top in future games.

  • WhatsInItForMe Orem, Utah
    Sept. 24, 2011 10:44 a.m.

    As for Jake, I think I've figure him out.

    - He's afraid of getting hurt, so when he gets rushed, he rushes or panics, and can't progress through receivers, so fixates on his primary one.

    - During practice, where he knows he won't get hurt, he's stellar. That applies to his performances in camps, etc., where he got his #1 QB from high school ranking. It also applies to high school performances because those defenses weren't strong enough to threaten him. It also applies to most of last year's later games where Jake performed better (except at Utah) because of weaker defenses that didn't threaten his well-being. This year, four teams in a row have had defenses strong enough to worry him.

    - He speaks as if he's all-world because he believes he is, even though he's not performing as such. This comes from a natural tendency with ALL people that they don't think badly of themselves. It takes being humbled in some way, not necessarily in bad performances, but by being called out on them by someone you trust, to get yourself out of that state of denial.

    Not sure if Jake will get "healed."

  • Pipes Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 24, 2011 11:11 a.m.

    BYU quarterbacks to forget, Steve Lindley, Bob Jensen, Jake Heaps. Time to move on.

  • TheHailstorm South Weber, UT
    Sept. 24, 2011 11:15 a.m.

    @WhatsInItForMe
    Heaps QB rating 100.5
    Wynn 118

  • Dave S Holladay, UT
    Sept. 24, 2011 11:17 a.m.

    Heaps panicks under pressure. If I'm a defensive coordinator I bring the house on 75% of the plays and watch him crumble and make poor decisions. I'm still not convinced the run game would hurt me either.

  • Resolute Voice Deseret, UT
    Sept. 24, 2011 11:45 a.m.

    This team made no improvement on offense, none. Defense and Special Teams came to play. Doman will be fine but Heaps better thank his publicist again because he is turning out to be less than his hype and that is not Domans fault.

  • Uteology Fort Worth, Texas
    Sept. 24, 2011 12:52 p.m.

    My bad, I meant to say "won" not "one".

  • runnerguy50 Virginia Beach, Va
    Sept. 24, 2011 12:56 p.m.

    Did the writer really say "Heaps looks comfortable" ? BYU whon despite Heaps.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Sept. 24, 2011 1:50 p.m.

    I wonder if Anae would come back if we made him head coach??? I'm ready to dump Bronco ball and the Doman experiment already!! Yuk! BYU's offense is horrible...worst I've seen in 10 years. Utah State will get its first win in Provo next Friday night...

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    Sept. 24, 2011 2:19 p.m.

    Everyone is all excited because we won.... We are still terrible.... We won because of Turnovers and Special Teams Play (in fact our Special Teams and Defense have generated more Offense through 4 games than Doman, Heaps and our Offense)...

    Doman still calls more plays that go East and West rather than North and South, Heaps QB Efficientcy has to be in the mid double digits (while his talk is in the high three digits), and now our poor Pass Defense is beginning to be exposed (particularly Eason's Corner).

    We truthfully didn't deserve to win this game and any celebration is well over done. Sorry.

  • Dr Rosenrosen Gilbert, AZ
    Sept. 24, 2011 2:35 p.m.

    Not sure what game you were watching Dick. I saw an offense that still can't get it done. They showed they can only get into the end zone when given a short field. They still showed an inability to have a long sustained drive that ends w/a TD. Still a very bad offense. If the offense doesn't make some sort of quantam leap by friday, expect a second consecutive loss to USU . . . Uggh!

  • catram North Las Vegas, NV
    Sept. 24, 2011 4:28 p.m.

    What is going on with Pendleton

  • Somecommonsenseplease LOGAN, UT
    Sept. 24, 2011 4:36 p.m.

    260 yards of Offense, completion % below 50, and only 16 first downs on a Conference USA squad is an improvement?

  • MiP Iowa City, IA
    Sept. 24, 2011 4:41 p.m.

    If Heaps can learn to put some touch on some of his passes, I think the calling for Doman's head will quiet down.

    Patience in the youngins, is what I say.

  • slobro LONG BEACH, WA
    Sept. 24, 2011 5:00 p.m.

    Please no more quotes from Heaps!! He should be muffled until he learns how to throw a football!!

  • DRay Roy, UT
    Sept. 24, 2011 6:14 p.m.

    Congrats to the entire Y football team. I did appreciate their effort that resulted in victory. I can't wait 'til next game, 'cause the Cougs get better every day, every way.

  • BYUHOCKEY American Fork, UT
    Sept. 24, 2011 7:11 p.m.

    the Readers' digest of all the comments boils down to this...BYU needs a new QB coach for Heaps and the rest of the QBs. Doman can then figure out the OC job or be replaced in due time.
    Bronco is doing well with the defense. Special teams is coming along nicely.

  • FL Cougar PENSACOLA, FL
    Sept. 24, 2011 8:18 p.m.

    Bronco was right last year. It's ideal to start a quarterback who's learned the ropes, shown leadership, and earned the respect of his teammates.

    Is there anyone who thinks that a team led by Riley Nelson couldn't have gone 7-6 in 2010? I understand Nelson got hurt and Heaps got the gig full-time, but the way it all went down showed indecisiveness and lack of leadership on Bronco's part (which he's admitted).

    Thing is, we're used to having redshirt freshmen or sophomores start at QB at BYU, but usually after they've served a mission first. Heaps probably
    should be in South America preaching the Gospel, maturing into a leader.

    Having said all of that, we have what we have. A lot of the lack of performance / confidence by Heaps comes from having a new OC, and not a lack of talent on Heaps' part. Changing quarterbacks now is not the right move.

    It is apparent Doman has too much on his plate to be both the OC and QB coach. DETMER FOR QB COACH or OC!!! Pay him whatever it takes to get him to Provo next year!

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    Sept. 24, 2011 9:05 p.m.

    @Cougar Claws from Lindon...

    Suggestion.... Why don't you direct your comments and observations to the game and worry less about controlling what we "Armchair Quarterbacks" have to say... Comments like that are precisely why BYU fans get a bad name... You guys are always wanting to act like you are the only adults in the room and as a result try to quash what other fans have to say... Last I checked this is still America and people have the right to say what they want about the game.... If you don't like it, don't read it.

  • Big Pappy west jordan, utah
    Sept. 24, 2011 10:51 p.m.

    This article was awful. What was old Dick harmon watching? Did he see the game the rest of us saw? The offence was medicore and the defence gave up too many big plays. The game was won by the special teams. And did anyone but me notice that when the cougars ran to the outside that they were gaining yards. With the exception of one drive, the run up the middle and between the guard and tackle did not work. The three back rotation is not working very well. Use one primary back so that he can get into the rythym of the game. I think that DiLugi should get the ball more than he is. His first run was for 18 yards and then he didn't get another carry for quite a while. This isn't that tough folks. Bronco needs to take more interest in the offense and relize that no matter where Brandon Doman is he can't call a game worth a darn!!!

  • Wallbanger Spanish Fork, UT
    Sept. 24, 2011 11:42 p.m.

    You could take a mannequin and put Bronko's clothes on it, headset and all and nobody would notice. That guy shows no emotion or fire at all. I've never heard so many BYU fans complain about Bronko and his staff than I have the past couple of seasons. Didn't he just get a new contract extension? I think the Y really needs to clean house and make some big changes.

  • SCCougar LEXINGTON, SC
    Sept. 25, 2011 7:57 a.m.

    The defense played good, not great. To play great they need to cut down on all the missed tackles. Way too many.

  • OhYea Delta, Utah
    Sept. 25, 2011 9:12 a.m.

    I don't think Heaps will ever be consistant until he losses his "Happy" feel. They never seem to be set before he throws the ball. It seems his feet are going one direction, his upper body going in another, and his throwing motion in yet another direction.

  • wardu Fallon, NV
    Sept. 25, 2011 11:36 a.m.

    USU will not recover from that loss last night. BYU wins 28-17. Utah loses its next four in a row. You heard it hear first.

  • ParkCoug PARKER, CO
    Sept. 25, 2011 7:09 p.m.

    Awful QB and offensive coaching. Coach Doman gets a pass by too many people. Just start with teaching Heaps to set his feet. If he can't do that, then we have big trouble for the next 2.5 years.

  • BleedCougarBlue Enid, OK
    Sept. 28, 2011 10:10 a.m.

    Doman's in the booth now?

    Good!

    I understand that he wanted to be down on the field to give Heaps some confidence but Doman should have been RUNNING to get into the booth after we played so pathetically against Texas in the second half. We literally gave that game away by (our offense) playing simply to hang on, not playing to win.

    I don't know if Mendenhall orderd him into the booth, but if I were head coach I would have done so the second we lost to Texas.

    GO COUGARS!