"There is no set rule or time frame set by the NCAA for a player who has
suffered a concussion to return to play. It is left up to the team's trainer
and doctor to clear the player to return to play."... 1 in 15
players with concussion may have additional concussions in the same playing
season and that these reinjuries typically take place in a short window of time
(7-10 days) following the first concussion."AllExperts article
on NCAA study of concussions.These guys are gone for a week or so
depending on the extent of the concussion. Hope it wasn't serious.Wow Utes, this is not good. Good luck in shoring up the holes.
@ sammyg | 3:19 p.m. Aug. 12, 2011 Springville, UT "Hope
it wasn't serious."Based on your thousands of other posts
regarding the Utes, I hope you don't mind if we question your sincerity.
So when Coach K says 'one snap away' - is that a bone snap or a snap from the
It takes a 'classy' fan to question someone's sincerety about sports
injuries.Any concussion is serious, I hope these don't end careers
or diminish quality of life.As far as your team, it's too bad.
Having depth in every position is critical for times like this. Your QB position
in particular and now much more so with a weakened O line.Having
injuries as an excuse when games are lost kind of takes the fun out of the
banter. We all want strong teams to play and then let execution of plays and
talent decide who's the best, not injuries and what ifs.
I don't think the O line situation is as dire as people think it is. They only
need 7 good and healthy O linemen for each game to be in adequate shape, right
now they have 5, but none of the 4 injured linemen have serious injuries, all
are expected to be 100% a week before the Montana State game, and Cullen and
Bergstrom are still 100%.If guys start going down with serious
injuries, especially the OTs, then we can start to worry. The O line will
probably be a little rusty for Montana but that's why they scheduled them.
We better be ready for the big boys. Does Montana State know we are in the big
byronbca..." I don't think the O line situation is as dire as
people think it is. They only need 7 good and healthy O linemen for each game
to be in adequate shape, right now they have 5..........Right...yeah
the utes will be fine...as long as they can borrow and put together an O line
from the defense. I guess you could look at it that way. Makes the reasoning
behind the gap between the ones and two's a little easier to understand when you
do. Might want to put some of that research capability that the U is so famous
for into coming up with how to get more with less. It might even lead to
finally getting that cold fusion project refunded again.
Re Where's Stockton:Maybe you're not aware of this, but the 2nd and
3rd teamers don't play much in real games. It doesn't matter how good the Ute's
9th, 10th, and 11th best O linemen are because they will never play. The reason
why the 2nd team O line is struggling is because 4 of the players are actually
3rd teamers right now. Fact: Only 1 O line starter has gone down
this season and he'll be back next week. Fact: There is not 1 O
lineman who is expected to miss the Montana State game.Fact: We
don't play USC for a month. Who cares if a few of our lineman can't practice for
a week a month before their first real game. I'm not concerned.
Good luck to the recovery of the injured players. I hope they are back healed up
and ready to go.Get feeling better Daniel "Goma" NIelson!
You're a beast.GO UTES!!!!
All I can say is good luck...The depth and the quality of the O line regardless
of the minor injuries and when they return just isn't there...Montana State will
not be a downhill game and afterwards USC and BYU both will be landslides that
the Utes will not be able to stop without being able to outscore regardless of
how good the defense is. It's going to be one heck of a long season for the
Utes without the depth and quality that it's lacking.
Man, every Ute article I read, there are BYU commentators trying to sound the
alarms and put the panic button on stand-by. It's the 2nd week of fall camp,
settle down. Injuries happen, just look at the extensive list of BYU injuries
from Jay Drew's latest "odds and ends", Utes will be fine. On the
other hand, teams like ASU have had several season ending injuries to starters
and playmakers, so I feel the Utes are fortunate so far.
Re:Thiete I don't think anybody really considers sammyg a
"commentator", he's more one of those guys that just likes to
indiscriminately throw hand grenades for the attention. There's at least one on
the Ute side as well.
Other teams are stressing about the O line more than Utah. When more than half
your o line is NFL caliber, it is tough to replace that level of talent. If the
level of talent is lowered, we could say that we are three deep at the offensive
line position with 21 offensive lineman as listed on the Utah team roster. the
fact is that all teams are three deep. Some teams don't broadcast it to get
their fans into a lather.
sammy,I agree with Carnak. All the posts I've seen from you have
been anti-Utah. Your new found concern for the Utes is a head scratcher.
I'm gald Stevens is excited about the switch back. Having a solid center is one
less thing the Utes will have to worry about on the O-line.Plus, you
have to chuckle when tried-and-true trolls use the "classless" card.
If you look like a duck... walk like a duck...act like a duck and sound like a
duck...then more than likely you are a duck. Comparatively speaking the O line
at Utah doesn't look... act... or perform to anywhere near a real level of
confidence with 3 weeks remaining before it's opener. And all these
precautionary measures for your starting quarter back who has had two days now
of not throwing the ball...doesn't exactly fit the mold of a team fit and ready
to start the season. Well... yeah right! Huff and Puff all you want...that
really sounds reassuring. Even my Utey brother isn't buying into all of this.
It's going to be a real struggle from the get go...and it's only going to get
harder as the season progresses. And should the big 12 suddenly implode and
Texas, Iowas State, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State do join the PAC in 2012 then
instead of being around 8 teams down on the food chain Utah may suddenly find
themselves at 11 or 12. That's exactly what Utah needs right now.
In all seriousness projecting your insecurities at sammy will not make them go
away ute "fans". It has been reported all off season that utah is weak
at the o-line. Only 2 returning starters to begin with and cullen was only
"ok" last year anyway. Yes you should be concerned about this. Yes you
should be concerned about your qb situation. Yes those two factors, along with
several more, should make you concerned about your entire offense.Denial is not going to change reality and reality is that utah has some
serious offensive personel problems. They will be playing defenses that are
superior to the ones they have seen previously more frequently. Granted they
will not be playing any defenses the quality of tcu's, but usc's, asu's, ua's,
BYU's, pitt's and wash's, are all going to be very good. If they cannot get
healthy soon they will not have had time to develop as a single unit. The
possible bright side to that is that they may be able to develop some depth but
the downside should be much more obvious than some of you are pretending it is.
BYU hasn't had a "landslide" victory over Utah in 20 years. I don't
think that's going to change this year, just like i don't think BYU is going
anywhere but the armed forces super new mexico helicopter bowl for the next 5 or
@ Duckhunter | 10:48 a.m. Aug. 13, 2011 Highland, UT Since you
seem to know everything about all the schools, I am surprised that you aren't at
BYU's scrimmage which started a little after 10 this morning (it is open to the
public). You are one amazing guy.LOL
Wow. Cougar fans making fun of Ute injuries. I hope there is such a thing as
kharma. If you read national news (oh my gosh! there's news outside of
Utah???), you'll see that many programs have had injuries in fall camp. They
happen. That's why good coaching staffs don't freak out; they adjust.
@1984 for lifeI have a football practice of my own to coach at noon.
But is that the best answer you have? Can't address the actual issue, of course
you can't as that would mean facing reality, just want to make me the issue.
Typical ute "fan".LOL!
No ones making fun of Ute injuries...that's your own self induced
perspective...that doesn't fit. I find nothing amusing at all about
injuries...and it's more than injuries. It's a lot more about what's lacking
and what the Utes just do not have....and plenty of Ute fans out there who know
it and aren't afraid to admit. If anyone's making fun it's of some of the fans
@DuckhunterWow, you know a lot about Utah's opponents. You rip the Ute O-Line due to lack of returning starters yet BYU defense with
5 returning starters is going to be a "very good" defense? I would
wait till at least the 2nd game before proclaiming that BYU has a "very
good" defense. @Where's Stockton: All I can say is good
luck...The depth and the quality of the O line regardless of the minor injuries
and when they return just isn't there.Thanks for your riveting
analysis, but at least according to one college article:"Helping open up holes for the young backs on the [Ute] offensive line is
one of the best tandems of tackles in Tony Bergstrom (no sacks allowed in 2010)
and John Cullen who was sorely missed in the Las Vegas Bowl loss to Boise
State."You two with sammyg need to do some "research"
before posting your opinions.
Utah's O-line is going to be alright this year. I really don't understand what
all the fuss is about. They have 3 of 5 returning starters, and after the injury
bug passes, they will have the depth they need to be successful. Then again, I
don't have the deep insight that Where's stockton and Duckhunter have, so what
do i know? These are two BYU fans who obviously have insider knowledge on all
Moderate | 11:23 a.m. Aug. 13, 2011 Salt Lake City, UT "Wow. Cougar fans making fun of Ute injuries."===Where?These forums are for sports discussions.There is
no ownership.If you bring something to the table,then feel free.@Uteology...Sounding a little defensive today.
It must be an article on the Utes, if BYU fans like sammyg, Duckhunter, Veritas
Aequitas, and BYUalum are posting on it.You should be more concerned
over your own weak secondary and shaky defense in general. Also, your schedule
itself is a yawner---a 5-7 Texas team, a below average SEC team, a TCU team
without its All-American quarterback, and a half dozen games against the lower
tier of the WAC.Exciting.
"WestCoast1 | 3:20 p.m. Aug. 13, 2011 Escondido, CA It
must be an article on the Utes, if BYU fans like sammyg, Duckhunter, Veritas
Aequitas, and BYUalum are posting on it."===Someone needs to
post...I think having season tickets to the U qualifies me to
comment.Like I said,"There is no ownership."Yet, YOU still bring nothing to the discussion... Why?...................................I'm hoping Stevens can clean up
his getting the ball to Wynn. Too many dropped snaps. He shouldn't feel
comfortable, he needs a little edge.
If there is a positive in this at least some of the O line injuries are
happenning early enough to allow for full recovery and the development of some
depth. Get well soon guys.
@West CoastI like the one about... "a TCU team without it's All
American Quarterback." TCU's defense...which by the way is pretty much
still intact... had more to do with trouncing Utah than Dalton did. He was just
the icing on the cupcake that thier defense baked and served up for him. Thier
still going to be a formidable defense this year...admittedly probably better
than BYU's...but then again Dalton is gone... and most of that prolific offense
with him...so Jake will more than make up the difference...and he actually has
two experienced and talented backups. Meanwhile the Utes better consider that
even getting past Montana State isn't going to be downhill... especially since
Jordan is still in a state of rehab and purposefully not being allowed to throw
every day. Injuries suck...there is no two ways about it. But still... It is
what it is.
Once again the dire predictions of the Y fan/Ute haters. They really make me
laugh because I'll I hear is whining of supposed football fans who don't have
any more of a life than to troll their rivals newspaper threads. You don't come
across as confident in your own team as confident people don't feel the need to
knock others as you try and fail to do to the U of U. I would love for you
haters to prove me wrong but I know you won't as you seem nothing better to do,
which is pretty sad.