It just goes to prove that people will believe what they want to believe. It is
unimaginable that parents were turning their 12 year old daughters over to this
man, to gain spiritual salvation. This is an extreme case, but it happens
every single day in both religion and politics. People shape their own morality
around what serves them best.At least this man is gone..... but
what about the parents that let this happen to their kids.... and thought it
right and just.
UtahBlueDevil, in an earlier article posted by DN (2-3 days ago) they said the
fathers willingly turned over their young daughters to Jeffs in exchange for a
young bride that Jeffs gave to each of the fathers. Seems to me this so called
religion attracts male predators.
Personally, I think the US Gov't should get involved and break up this church
and take its assets as it is nothing more than a disguised ring for male
I'm a supporter of prop 08 and other constitutions which prevent polygamy, child
marriages (one WOMAN one man), and other harmful marriages. What
this man did was wrong, and I wish we would pursue other sexual predators,
pedophiles, and seducing pressuring deviants with such vigor. However, I don't feel that consenting adult polygamists all fall into the same
category (with pedophiles etc), and it would be a mistake for us to pass
judgement and lump all of them in with Jeffs. It's also wrong to promote hatred
towards religions based on those like Jeffs(see above)I met some
FLDS female missionaries years ago, before Jeffs. They were bold, independent,
and one said she wasn't going to be a polygamist but believed in it as a
principle, the other said she wanted to be a polygamist. I'm not sure that we
have a right to arrest her for that, although, as I said, I don't think we
should show our support by legally condoning it through marriage. The idea that all polygamist women were oppressed, blind, fanatics is also
wrong. Polygamist women were some of Americas first female Doctors,
Lawyers, voters, etc. Things weren't always as they are now.
A prophet going to jail, only because of what God commanded him to do. For some
reason this is a similar story to another prophet I have heard of. I bet the
FLDS members are taking this as a testimony builder as trials of their faith.
Mischevious, I've tried and tried to make the same correlation with another
propeht but whenever I do, it gets denied. Truth hurts ... but its still truth.
He was just following the original LDS founder, who did a very similar thing.
It is easy to make comparisons if you ignore details in the comparison. It is
easy to make comparisons if you act as if laws on statutory rape are based on
principals of biology. In fact they are based on principals of psychology, and
the relevant human development and potential issues change over time.That said, I would go so far as to argue that the inprisoning of Warren Jeffs
is a case of grosse cultural imperialism. I am not sure that is a bad thing,
because I reject cultural relativism and the view that all cultures are of equal
validity. Of course this is also why I reject the vast majority of modern
intelectual progressivism, because it is built around the central edifice of
cultural relativity. The fact that these same cultural relativists
so rarely stand up for men like Warren Jeffs who act appropriately within their
own culture is one of the reasons why I think progressive intelectualism is
morally bankrupt. It is extremely racist, and only allows people to act on
their own culture if they are not white Americans. It is also extremely racist
in that it values the lives of Muslim women less.