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Dick Harmon: No QB controversy this year as Cougars know who will lead them into fall camp

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  • Captain L Provo, UT
    Aug. 5, 2011 8:27 p.m.

    I have high expectations for Heaps and this Cougar team, if Heaps can come out and continue to improve over last yr, I only see 1 or 2 losses for the season. There isn't a game we play this yr that we can't win. Games at Ol Miss & Texas will be tough and hard but both are winnable. Utah is always tough (at least they have been for about 10 yrs but I see the cougs winning by double digits, TCU, Oregon St, and Hawaii will be tough too but again those games are winnable and I would bet we will be favored in all of them except maybe TCU and even that could be a toss up. This team has more depth and better athletes than almost any team I can remember and that covers 50 + yrs. Should be an exciting yr.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Aug. 5, 2011 8:56 p.m.

    Jake Heaps is going to be very good. But I think his offensive weapons will make him look even better than he really is. Hoffman, Apo and Quezada will be the primary weapons. Throw in solid production from Jacobsen, DiLuigi, Kariya and the TEs. This team will have a lot of games with 400+ yards of total offense, and some over 500. The offensive line will give Heaps the time he needs to find his targets and the holes the RB's need to find daylight.

    Even with stout defenses like Texas and TCU, I don't see how they can cover every option.

    The only thing that will limit Heaps' total yardage is that he may not be on the field in the fourth quarter againsts several of the teams.

    I would still like to see Nelson in the game for a few plays each week to run the wildcat. Defenses wouldn't know what him them.

  • Randy01 Lees Summit, MO
    Aug. 5, 2011 9:10 p.m.

    Let's see how they do against Texas and Miss before saying that they can't cover every option. You never know what may happen.

    BYU should crow to much if they beat Ol Miss, it won't be like they played the top 4 in the SEC West.

  • TheSportsAuthority Arlington, VA
    Aug. 5, 2011 9:48 p.m.

    Randy01

    It's funny how when Utah beat a "BCS" team in the past, regardless of how mediocre that team was -- see Pittsburgh, North Carolina, Michigan -- the Utes were out in force beating their chests about what a great victory it was because it was a "BCS" team.

    Now, suddenly, they're making excuses why BYU possibly beating three BCS teams -- Ole' Miss, Texas, and Oregon State -- all on the road, really wouldn't be that big a deal.

    Gotta laugh at the hypocrisy!

    Of course, the Utes will be crowing if they manage to win the pathetic PAC 12 South with its strongest team crippled with sanctions.

    Just a reminder of the stellar competition the Utes will be facing:

    USC (on probation)
    UCLA 4-8
    Arizona 7-6
    ASU 6-6
    Colorado 5-7

    Wow! Utah will have to beat out ONE team that had a winning record last season, and the Utes were given a free pass in the north by not having to play Oregon or Stanford.

    Talk about a cake walk to the PAC 12 championship.

  • BluCoug Provo, UT
    Aug. 5, 2011 9:53 p.m.

    "BYU should crow to much if they beat Ol Miss, it won't be like they played the top 4 in the SEC West."

    Your right, it's just like utah beating a 3-9 Michigan team in 2008.

  • srh83 Hillsboro, OR
    Aug. 5, 2011 11:10 p.m.

    I'm still a big fan of Riley Nielson and hope that he can play in some form or another this season. I wouldn't want the same two QB system, but it would be so tough to stop if he could come in on short yardage or run plays. The guy is too much of an athlete to keep on the bench.

  • The Rock Federal Way, WA
    Aug. 5, 2011 11:18 p.m.

    I recall watching BYU play either Washington or Washington State many years ago. McMahan was QB and BYU was not having much success in moving the ball.

    Then a trick play...

    McMahan pitched the ball to Steve Young who had lined up in the RB slot, he took a few steps then passed for a big gain.

    That broke the game open.

    Riley Nelson can run and throw the ball. He is too talented to let him just languish on the bench. Move him to running back and let him throw the ball once in a while.

    Okay, maybe I am just nuts.

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    Aug. 5, 2011 11:50 p.m.

    We don't need to worry about playing Nelson, just let Heaps get comfortable and have success and we will be fine. Bring Nelson in for mop up time and let him get some time but don't make a big deal about him.

  • Cougar Claws Lindon, UT
    Aug. 6, 2011 1:47 a.m.

    I think a good way to use Nelson would be if the offense stalls for a few straight possesions for some reason, he could be a bit of a change of pace QB or something. Just a thought.

  • Blue02 LOGAN, UT
    Aug. 6, 2011 3:05 a.m.

    That last comment about Bronco 'allowing' his team to lose 4 of the first five at the beginning is pure Harmon. That dude is getting blue skin from all the kool-aid. He must not have been at the game up in Logan to see Bronco's deer-in-headlights look as they got pelted by a team of second stringers. Bronco LOST that team and had to throw a good man under the bus to right the ship. I used to love Bronco, and would read every word written about him. However, after the aforementioned incident and then hanging out all the assistant's jobs over the Christmas break while he went to Hawaii on vacation was an act of cowardice that made me hang up the Y hat until that fortuitous day in the future when he is finally run out of town.

  • runnerguy50 Virginia Beach, Va
    Aug. 6, 2011 5:55 a.m.

    I wonder if Riley Nelson regrets the move to Provo ?

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Aug. 6, 2011 6:18 a.m.

    @The Rock:

    No - you are not nuts. At a very minimum, Riley Nelson would be a great decoy if he were put in the offense for certain situations. Lots of potential for some game deciding trick plays with him in the mix.

  • G-Swenz Providence, UT
    Aug. 6, 2011 6:32 a.m.

    I wonder how Riley Nelson will feel if the Ags win in Provo this year...

  • MichiganCoog Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Aug. 6, 2011 7:18 a.m.

    G-Swenz,

    Once you wake up, and realize you were dreaming, then you'll have to digest a 30 point stomping that your Aggies will recieve...beat BYU in Provo? That's a laugher...my prediction: 41-10 Cougs...take that to the bank.

  • MichiganCoog Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Aug. 6, 2011 7:21 a.m.

    You can bet the farm that Riley Nelson will be in on some plays this year...nice option to have isn't it? Something Utah and Utah State can only dream of having. Jordan Wynn goes down, and the Utes are gonners. Utah State? Who is their QB? Oh, I forgot, he's now in Provo!

  • Mountainman56 Alpine, UT
    Aug. 6, 2011 7:41 a.m.

    SportsAuthority

    Great comment. You mentioned the free pass the Utes were given by not having to play Oregon or Stanford but don't forget, they do have to take on:

    Washington St. 2-10
    Washington. 7-6
    Oregon St. 5-7

    Clearly Ute fans have no room to talk about BYU's schedule this year since they don't exactly play the top four in the SEC West either.

  • Mountainman56 Alpine, UT
    Aug. 6, 2011 7:49 a.m.

    Blue02

    Don't try to make us believe that you were ever a BYU or Bronco fan because you obviously are an Aggie with no love or appreciation for the Cougars. The fact is that the USU game was a critical turning point for BYU and the coaching changes that took place after that game and after the season not only have been and will be a huge benefit to the team, they were absolutely necessary. It takes a great leader to make difficult decisions that are needed for the organization to improve and move forward.

    Meanwhile, enjoy last year's win. Maybe you'll be able to pull off another one in 17 more years!

  • bluecoug89 Highland, UT
    Aug. 6, 2011 8:05 a.m.

    I can't wait to see Heaps this year. He's going to be amazing and a great leader!

  • Cougar_Independence OMAHA, NE
    Aug. 6, 2011 8:30 a.m.

    @blu02

    We don't need fair-weather fans like u. Go cheer for the aggies in Logan.

    As for me and my house, we will stay faithful to BYU forever!

    Go Cougars!

  • WhatsInItForMe Orem, Utah
    Aug. 6, 2011 8:34 a.m.

    BYU's success this year will ride more on Doman's ability to call plays than any other SINGLE factor. That's a SINGLE factor I'm talking about.

    If Doman can mix it up enough to keep opposing defenses off balance WEEK AFTER WEEK, then BYU could go undefeated. The offensive talent and experience are that solid this year. With Bronco at the defensive helm, no issues there.

    Of course, if key players get injured, that could change everything. BYU isn't that deep (experienced) at certain positions, like QB, to take such a hit and go undefeated.

    Here's too a successful start at Ole Miss (drink up on that pickle juice, guys!).

  • Cougar_Independence OMAHA, NE
    Aug. 6, 2011 8:36 a.m.

    BYU will win 10+ games this year. Bank on it!

    Go Cougars!

  • Mountainman56 Alpine, UT
    Aug. 6, 2011 9:06 a.m.

    WhatsInItForMe

    I completely agree tha Doman's play calling will be the biggest single factor in BYU's success this year. I also think it will be the biggest area of improvement. When my 80 year old mother could predict almost every play that BYU was going to run, I promise you that other teams D Cordinators had no problem doing that either. Position mastery is great but when teams with good athletes (Florida St., TCU, even Utah) know exactly what's coming, they will be successful in shutting it down.

    Anae's horrible play calling against Utah last year was unforgiveable. He goes for the touchdown on first and goal when we had a chip shot for a field goal and runs the ball up the middle instead of running a play that would have given us a beter chance to score. Then we drive to the Utah 35 on the final drive of the game and he runs thte ball up the middle three more times rather than trying to get into the end zone or getting in better field goal position. Unfortunately, we all know what happened next. We won't see that happen again under Doman.

  • TrueBlue Orem, UT
    Aug. 6, 2011 10:37 a.m.

    Blue02

    I was at the game and Hill literally gave up on the team and completely stopped calling defensive plays. If that's not grounds for being fired the next day, I don't know what is.

    As far as Anae being replaced. Robert is a good guy, but he's had some horrendous lapses in judgement -- the two-headed QB monster (Heaps should have started from day one), running the ball from the 5-yard line against UCLA with almost no time left in the first half of the Las Vegas Bowl, calling a passing play on 4th and short, instead kicking a FG to go up by 9 at Utah, and sitting on the ball after Heaps had moved BYU inside the 20 with still plenty of time to score a TD and seal the deal at Utah -- just to cite a few examples.

    Bronco runs the BYU football program like a good excutive would, hiring good assistants and then trusting them to produce at a high level. When that doesn't happen, it's time for a change.

  • Idaho Coug Meridian, Idaho
    Aug. 6, 2011 11:53 a.m.

    I am a little confused why fans are still calling for Nelson. He clearly is a good kid and a good athlete. But he is not a great QB by any stretch and he is particularly not a good fit for the offense BYU is looking to install.

    We all know that the controversy last year was driven by ideology. That is in the past. What I wonder about is whether that ideology still exists regarding who the primary backup QB is. There is no doubt Lark and Munns were not close to ready to compete last summer. But with a season under both is Nelson really a better primary backup should Heaps go down for this offense? It seems that Lark and Munns are both better equipped to run this offense and I would think they are back to prime shape now. Are they even being given a chance to take the backup role away from Nelson?

  • UteRealist South Jordan, UT
    Aug. 6, 2011 1:26 p.m.

    Biggest let down in BYU history will be the Heap after he gets hit by some big boy from Mississippi. No depth at qb. Can Riley Nelson come out to play? Should be fun watching the train wreck as they start out 0-4. At least there is a WAC schedule to boost the BYU spirits. Line up for Idaho. Utah will be the superbowl of Lavell arena. Heaps came to BYU to see national championships. Good thing BYU has an excellent ballroom dancing team and men's volleyball. Both could win a NC and Heap can be front and center. Call a press conference!

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    Aug. 6, 2011 2:14 p.m.

    The South has been getting record heat this summer. I expect that will continue through September. I fear that could be a huge factor in how BYU plays at Texas and Ole Miss. In that kind of heat I doubt even pickle juice will spare the players from cramping up big time.

  • riddlemethis Clearfield, UT
    Aug. 6, 2011 2:15 p.m.

    Ute Realist:

    Since you betray your screen name, here's a dose of Ute reality: "no depth at qb"
    Uhh... mind telling us what backup qb's the U has that have seen a down on the field? Don't worry you can't because they haven't. "after he gets hit by some big boy" Wynn's missed 2 games with a thumb injury and 1 game with a shoulder injury. At least it would take a big boy to knock Heaps out.

    Oh and that WAC schedule you are trying to make fun of: Utah's PAC 12 opponents had a combined record of 45-62 last year.

  • WestCoast1 Escondido, CA
    Aug. 6, 2011 3:36 p.m.

    sports authority/blu coug,

    You're mighty quick to pounce on Randy01 for questioning the validity of a victory over a mediocre Ole Miss team if, in fact, byu beats them. Aren't you a little too sensitive? And why do you immediately suppose that Randy01 is even a Utah fan? Aren't you jumping the gun a little bit?

    It's true, Ole Miss is not in the upper half of the SEC this year. And Texas is coming off a 5-7 season. Byu gets Utah at home, and they play a TCU team who no longer has Andy Dalton at QB. Add in several easy games against inferior opponents (Idaho, San Jose State, Utah State, New Mexico State, Hawaii), and you have the makings of a potential 8 or 9 win season. But it really will be nothing different than the days of the old WAC.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Aug. 6, 2011 3:50 p.m.

    Congratz go to Heaps only his recent nuptials and thus lack of QB controversy.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Aug. 6, 2011 4:07 p.m.

    UteRealist

    Now that was oxymoronic.

    WestCoast1

    Ute fans have begun playing both ends of the stick. You've all had fun thumping about an 0-4 start, but as it gets closer, now we're all about how bad things are for Ole Miss and Texas, just in case the unthinkable happens and BYU starts 2-0.

    But you just don't know what to do with yourselves. Utah is awesome, Utah is all that, Utah belongs in the PAC whatever. Oh, wait, BYU gets Utah at home, so if you go 3-0 to start, you really didn't earn it.

    Well, here's what is different than the old days: all those games, good, bad and ugly will be (inter)nationally televised. All of America will get a chance to see which direction the Y is headed in. If we fall on our face, we fall and we have no one to blame.

    But when we succeed, all the yapping and posturing by insecure posters will be so much warm air blowing out of the north.

    Good luck in the PAC. I think you will make it all the way to the championship game, and then, anything can happen.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Aug. 6, 2011 4:17 p.m.

    @westcoast1
    Do U realize that U don't play a single ranked team this year? No one on your schedule is ranked in the Top 25. Not one team. Your MWC schedule was tougher than your PAC12 schedule.

    @uterealist
    I can't believe you said "no depth at qb" for BYU. Hello, we have five QBs on the roster and four of them would start at most D1 schools. Give me the choice of Wynn or Munns (BYUs 4th string QB) and I would take Munns in a heartbeat. BTW, tell me about the Utes depth at qb. You better hope Wynn's surgical repaired holds up to the rigor of the Trojan defense.

  • anti BCS Anaheim, CA
    Aug. 6, 2011 4:19 p.m.

    WestCoast1

    It laughable how myopic Utah fans are about the combined record last year of Utah's PAC 12 opponents, 45-62.

    At least BYU plays two road games against teams ranked in the Coaches Pre-season Top 25. Who have you got that compares?

    The truth is, Utah has a bunch of mediocre teams on their schedule that they want everyone to believe are powerhouses.

    Playing Hawaii in Hawaii will be every bit as difficult as playing at any of the PAC 12 teams on Utah's schedule.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Aug. 6, 2011 4:28 p.m.

    "Ute fans have begun playing both ends of the stick. You've all had fun thumping about an 0-4 start, but as it gets closer, now we're all about how bad things are for Ole Miss and Texas"

    Y dad,

    Ole miss is the equivalent of Wyoming ( a team that outplayed the kewgs last year...admit it) bYu seems better on paper simply because o'le Miss doesn't have a QB.

    Having said that, I still think O'le Miss will stomp the kewg by at leat 10.

    As far as Texas? Bwahhhaa haah ahaaa hahahaha! bYu is totally out of thier league. I expect Heaps to be sidelined for the season after this one.

  • anti BCS Anaheim, CA
    Aug. 6, 2011 4:32 p.m.

    UteRealist

    "Late in practice, Wynn locked knees with running back Harvey Langi on a play and fell to the ground. Neither player was injured and Wynn said it wasn't a big issue.

    Offensive coordinator Norm Chow acknowledged "it scared the heck out of us" when Wynn went down on the quarterback-running back exchange mix-up."

    Why do you it "scared the heck out of the Utah coaching staff when Wynn took a little tumble?

    Because, unlike BYU, Utah has absolutely NO depth at quarterback. Utah's season is toast if Wynn goes down.

    BYU has three very good backups to Heaps, in Nelson, Lark and Munns, who are all good enough to be starters at other D1 programs.

  • UteRealist South Jordan, UT
    Aug. 6, 2011 4:41 p.m.

    It's ironic how anyone mention all the qb depth for BYU and the world comes apart. BYU's backups have the exact same experience as Utah's. None of them have any experience. The fact of the matter is Wynn had better freshman numbers than Heaps and Wynn won more games having played the amount of games. How does that make Heaps such a stud?

    "5 Qb's at BYU would start at any university?" We'll never know. If they are that good, many will be transferring. Don't believe everything you hear.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Aug. 6, 2011 4:47 p.m.

    anti BCS,

    Not sure Y Chows comments have anything to do with a non AQ bYu team? I'd somewhat understand if the kewgs were in the same conference as the UofU and had some significance on the storied PAC12 "Conference of Champions". But it doesn't.

    You might want to compare the +8 QB's on the roster to what Navy or Army has.

  • riddlemethis Clearfield, UT
    Aug. 6, 2011 4:52 p.m.

    Ute Realist:

    Worlds coming apart? Sounds like your world came apart when you read the article more than BYU fans world came apart when they read your comments. Pointing out that what you said is inaccurate doesn't mean someone's world came apart.

    Riley Nelson played in half the games last year, as well as started for part of the season.

    Let's try this again:

    Who on the Ute's roster among the backup QB's has played a single play?

  • TrollPolice Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 6, 2011 5:13 p.m.

    hedgehog

    Not sure why a Utah troll is still spamming BYU articles, when the Utes supposedly left BYU in their dust over a year ago.

    But here you are hyperventilating about the wealth of QBs at QB U, while that team up north is crossing their fingers and hoping that their fragile, wounded QB can last an entire season in the "conference of QBs".

    Wynn taking a little tumble in practice sends Ute nation into a panic attack.

    btw, you should hold off on the "conference of champions" shtick until Utah wins a championship in something besides skiing and women's gymnastics. And no, that 1944 win in the 2nd rate NCAA tournament doesn't count. Army was the real national champion in 1944.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Aug. 6, 2011 5:54 p.m.

    Funny how U jumped on your pedestal after beating the following BCS teams touting the wins as major accomplishments - Loisville (2X), Iowa State, Michigan (3-9), Pitt (2010). Ole Miss in 2011 is much better than any of those teams.

    I think we'll get a W against Ole Miss, but I'm still waiting to find out how good this team really is. They have plenty of talent and the potential for double digit wins, but I want to see them execute and show that they know how to win.

    I can't wait to get the report to hear how the first day of practice went today. 28 days and counting!

    BTW, when is the last time U beat a team from the SEC?

  • UteRealist South Jordan, UT
    Aug. 6, 2011 6:26 p.m.

    Riley Nelson playing is just like having no experience. There is not a Cougar fan alive that think or hopes Riley will play one single down. He would have been better off staying in Logan.

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Aug. 6, 2011 6:39 p.m.

    "no depth at qb, Should be fun watching the train wreck as they start out 0-4"

    ute realist:

    You were talking about utah, right?? Wynn is suspect at best, and then there's the freshman. You want to talk about depth?? And your running backs??? Who are those guys?? Get real, dude.

    I'll be realistic and say utah will beat Montana State on week one. Week two and week three will be a different story. SC and BYU will both crush utah. We'll be talking about that train wreck soon enough.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Aug. 6, 2011 6:45 p.m.

    UteRealist

    The Realist part is what is puzzling. Do any of us wish Riley was the starter? Probably not, but we have perfect confidence in him regardless. You just wish he had chosen the U.

  • Cougars1 Bluffdale, UT
    Aug. 6, 2011 6:48 p.m.

    UteRealist'

    Are you even aware of your surroundings? Riley played his freshman year for Utah State. He started 3 games last year for BYU. He may have been better off staying in Logan, but Riley playing is like having a former starter playing. To say he has no experience just shows that you are blowing hot air, and not backing up what you say with fact.

  • Randy01 Lees Summit, MO
    Aug. 6, 2011 6:51 p.m.

    CougFaninTX:

    The last time the U beat a team from the SEC was in the 2009 Sugar Bowl. It was Alabama, coming in with a 12-1 record.

    To All:
    I think chest thumping about how well you could compete in other conferences based on beating a team that is in the bottom half of that conference is meaningless to ridiculous, whether it is Utah or BYU. Take the W, but both fan groups could use a little humility.

    My original point was that fans shouldn't assume that a stout defense couldn't stop all of BYU's options. Ol'Miss and Texas both have superior athletes than BYU from a recruiting standpoint. Both have gone through some real turmoil, including coordinator changes. It will be a coordinator versus coordinator battle.

    Cheer for your team all you want, but let's see both teams play some games before the chest thumping begins.

  • G-Swenz Providence, UT
    Aug. 6, 2011 7:04 p.m.

    I just hope Riley has that shoulder good to go. Because assuming he gets in on a few plays against USU, he better be ready to take a lickin'.

    Everyone wants to talk about BYU's linebacking corp but look at USU's. Bobby Wagner is the only one on the Butkus list, Bojay Filimoeatu is a 250+lb. beast, Gallagher has been a 3-4 year starter, and Tavaris McMillian is an athletic stud straight out of Miami.

    Heaps, Nelson, Lark, whoever. With Ole Miss, Texas, OSU, TCU etc on the schedule Cougs best not overlook a team that is probably just as improved as they are.

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    Aug. 6, 2011 7:05 p.m.

    To UteRealist: Sounds like a B movie plot (you would have to be my age to know what a B movie is). You're dreaming, my friend.

  • Jazzsmack Holladay, UT
    Aug. 6, 2011 7:07 p.m.

    It'll be interesting to watch Heaps and see what he can do,

    now that he doesn't have Anae holding him back.

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    Aug. 6, 2011 7:09 p.m.

    The entire offense should have taken a big step up this year. With the exception of the running backs, they were below BYU standards last year. It should be much better. I am expecting a real old fashioned BYU high scoring offense. Can't wait for September 3rd.

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    Aug. 6, 2011 7:20 p.m.

    Hey Hedgehog, I thought you were lost and gone forever, but I guess I was mistaken. I note your tirade in the last sentence of your 4:28 pm blog. I had thought maybe you were an immature teenager. That now confirms what I had suspected. I will not be reading your blogs any more. I will skip them when I read through all of the other comments. Just wanted you to know. I recommend that all who read the BYU articles ignore Hedgehog's posts.

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    Aug. 6, 2011 7:33 p.m.

    panamadesnews | 7:20 p.m. Aug. 6, 2011
    Lindon, UT

    "Hey Hedgehog, I thought you were lost and gone forever, but I guess I was mistaken. I note your tirade in the last sentence of your 4:28 pm blog. I had thought maybe you were an immature teenager. That now confirms what I had suspected."

    hedgehog | 3:50 p.m. Aug. 6, 2011
    Ann Arbor, MI

    "Congratz go to Heaps only his recent nuptials and thus lack of QB controversy."

    ===

    Agreed, and to bring his young bride in a drag he name through the mud with inuendo is a pretty classless too.

    I wonder if Hedgehog is wearing his "Max Hall Hates Me" T-shirt still?

    Anyone still want to argue how far Utah fans are willing to take their classlessness?

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    Aug. 6, 2011 7:38 p.m.

    I would like to see Riley Nelson play every 4th quarter because that would mean the game is out of reach and he is getting to play as the back-up.

    I think it's funny that Utah fans love to critisize BYU's schedule, while there's is pretty light for being in the "conference of champions." Remember the year they said BYU had a soft schedule for playing Eastern Washington and they had Weber State on their schedule? Wow, dillusions of grander exist on the hill in SLC.

    I still believe it will take Utah 3 years to amass 10 total PAC 12 Conference wins. The reason: They're just too full of themselves, sort of like being ranked #8 and then finally playing a few teams last year such as Notre Dame. My, reality set in then, didn't it? This year it will set in earlier than that! (Sept 17th or sooner)

    USU fans harp all you want--your program is mediocre and always has been, pretty much. That's how you keep a coach in Logan, you know; lose too many or win too many and he's gone.

  • Cougars1 Bluffdale, UT
    Aug. 6, 2011 7:53 p.m.

    "I will not be reading your blogs any more. I will skip them when I read through all of the other comments. Just wanted you to know. I recommend that all who read the BYU articles ignore Hedgehog's posts."

    I'm in. I will no longer waste my time.

  • Randy01 Lees Summit, MO
    Aug. 6, 2011 8:32 p.m.

    Tosmartforyou: Wow! Most rational observers would assume that adding eastern Washington and Weber State does not improve strength of schedule.

    Seriously, neither team has any real edge over the past few years in overall strength of schedule. Up to this point, they have both played in the same conference for many, many years. There is little indication of how either would fare if they played a truly elite schedule. A cautionary note for Ute fans would be Arkansas, who struggled for years after joining the SEC even though they have a stronger, richer program then either BYU or Utah (or could ESPN be wrong?).

    Utah will struggle in the PAC 12, even if they have a great first season, for several years. BYU has greater control of their schedule, but Texas will be a good early indicator. BYU fans should note as well, that if a Big 12 invitation is extended, it will be on Texas' terms, not BYU's. Texas destroyed one conference 20 years ago and nearly destroyed the Big 12 last year. They aren't looking for independence, but conference dominance.

  • Randy01 Lees Summit, MO
    Aug. 6, 2011 8:55 p.m.

    CougFaninTX:

    The last time the U beat a team from the SEC was in the 2009 Sugar Bowl. It was Alabama, coming in with a 12-1 record.

    To All:
    I think chest thumping about how well you could compete in other conferences based on beating a team that is in the bottom half of that conference is meaningless to ridiculous, whether it is Utah or BYU. Take the W, but both fan groups could use a little humility.

    My original point was that fans shouldn't assume that a stout defense couldn't stop all of BYU's options. Ol'Miss and Texas both have superior athletes than BYU from a recruiting standpoint. Both have gone through some real turmoil, including coordinator changes. It will be a coordinator versus coordinator battle.

    Cheer for your team all you want, but let's see both teams play some games before the chest thumping begins.

  • H8 Red Centerville, UT
    Aug. 6, 2011 9:43 p.m.

    "15 extra pounds of muscle in his chest, arms and legs."

    Really?

    Wow, he sure doesn't look that strong in the pictures from first day of practice. He must have been incredibly scrawny before. He doesn't look like an nfl qb at this time but things can change.

  • bigutefan Las Vegas, NV
    Aug. 6, 2011 11:56 p.m.

    Heaps has beaten ONE team with a winning record.

    "When he helped steer the Cougars to their most explosive offensive performance ever in a bowl game against UTEP last December"

    UTEP had lost their final six games heading into the bowl. They played with a quarterback who wore a cast on his leg, and then he stood holding crutches on the sidelines.

  • mussingaround Palo Alto, CA
    Aug. 7, 2011 12:45 a.m.

    bigutefan

    "Heaps has beaten ONE team with a winning record."

    And Utah fans would take Heaps over Wynn in a heartbeat if they were offered the choice.

  • Independence Is Bliss San Jose, CA
    Aug. 7, 2011 1:38 a.m.

    "I will not be reading your blogs any more. I will skip them when I read through all of the other comments. Just wanted you to know. I recommend that all who read the BYU articles ignore Hedgehog's posts."

    Been there done that for a looooong time. I highly recommend it. I find these comment boards are much more enjoyable when you're not subjected to adolescent tantrums.

    P.S. Why does anyone ever respond to that guy. He's just trying to push buttons. There's no way he actually believes the nonsense he types. Leave him be. (or she. I apologize for my use of the masculine if he is actually a she).

  • hohum Saint George, UT
    Aug. 7, 2011 8:09 a.m.

    Hedgie: Just stick with U and predict what they will do. Go ahead, so many of you are experts. Predict each game for u.

  • RepresentBlue West Jordan, UT
    Aug. 7, 2011 11:34 a.m.

    Bronco has stated publicly that he has instructed Doman to work Riley Nelson into his offense. It seems obvious that Nelson will be employed as a situational option similar to the way the Utes used Louks in 2008 and then discarded him in 2009 in favor of an incoming freshman Jordan Wynn, so lets not see any stones being cast in BYU's direction for Nelson's treatment. This is D1 football, not Pop Warner and at least Nelson has chosen to stay and compete, unlike Louks.

    As far as Heaps being sidelined for the season after the Texas game - worry about your own QB after being introduced to the Pac 10.2 at USC. At least Heaps is healthy and not recovering from major shoulder surgery.

  • I-Bleed-Blue ROANOKE, VA
    Aug. 7, 2011 10:41 p.m.

    I'm reading this from Martha's Vineyard, and agree with your analogy in this season's gap from last year!