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  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    July 19, 2011 3:40 p.m.

    Now if they can get Kentucky and Vandi they can claim all the dredges of the SEC.

    Wake me up when AL,FL,LSU,GA,AU come to the land of unicorns and rainbows.

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    July 19, 2011 3:44 p.m.

    Another solid opponent. They went 8-5 last year including the 31-28 loss to Louisville in the beef o brady's bowl. 3 of the other losses were between 1 and 5 points. A better team than I first thought they would be.
    Can't wait for BYU football.

  • MacNasty Rexburg, ID
    July 19, 2011 3:56 p.m.

    Hedge Hog,

    Your sports acumen is showing again, Southern Miss is in Confrence USA and have been bowling for the last nine years. Shall we now talk about the present and future dredges of the PAC, hum?

  • Broom Hockey Champ Alpine, UT
    July 19, 2011 3:57 p.m.

    This calls for a trip to the BYU creamery!

    My momma is from MS. I'm pretty sure we'll be planning a trip back to MS to watch the Cougs. All I can say is that I wish it were sooner.

    Didn't Bertt Farve play at SoMiss?

  • sports fan Provo, UT
    July 19, 2011 4:02 p.m.

    Solid opponent, its a good thing for byu to pick up the middle of the sec teams.

  • Broom Hockey Champ Alpine, UT
    July 19, 2011 4:12 p.m.

    So. Miss. is not in the SEC, but they are "perty" good.

    This is exciting for me and my family. It's great that BYU is planning on playing all over the country. Now I have to decide whether to hit up the creamery before or after my broom hockey game.

  • KamUte South Jordan, UT
    July 19, 2011 4:12 p.m.

    Conference USA is the next step down from the MWC. They tend to be a solid team comparable to an Air Force in the CUSA.

    I agree that we should all celebrate with ice cream. It will be out of this world and I certainly cannot wait to see it on Thursday night on KBYU or the world leader.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    July 19, 2011 4:16 p.m.

    "Your sports acumen is showing again, Southern Miss is in Confrence USA"

    MacNasty,

    I was wrong, you are right. It's not a SEC team but a Conference USA team...........

    LOL!

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    July 19, 2011 4:25 p.m.

    "Now if they can get Kentucky and Vandi they can claim all the dredges of the SEC."

    Well, wedgie, thanks for acknowledging that the mighty BcS conferences pad their schedules with the weaklings of their own conferences.

    Guess what: If Utah doesn't perform well the first couple years, they will be super-glued to the bottom of the PAC. They'll find athletes would rather play and succeed at a top tier MWC team, like Utah was, than get their heads beat in at a bottom-of-the-heap PAC club, and the PAC cache will not matter.

    Do I believe Utah will be successful? As long as Whitt is the coach.

    Do I think Max was right? Mostly, no, but some, like you, validate his view every day...

  • Moderate Salt Lake City, UT
    July 19, 2011 4:32 p.m.

    2014? Shouldn't BYU be part of the Big 12 by then?

  • SoCalTrueBlue2 San Diego, CA
    July 19, 2011 4:35 p.m.

    Not a Texas or Notre Dame, but still it's good to balance the schedules for 2014 and 2015 with a fairly strong team like S.Miss. to ensure that BYU doesn't have too many cupcakes on its schedule for those years, such as Utah.

  • Farid @ Pocatello Pocatello, ID
    July 19, 2011 4:36 p.m.

    I don't get all the snarky comments about having to play on Thursday and Friday nights. Thus far, it would seem that they are few and far between.

    But really, why wouldn't you want to have your team play on a weeknight, when no one else is playing, on national TV, thereby freeing up your Saturdays for other things.

    I'll agree that playing on Thursdays made BYU (and the WAC & MWC) seem lesser when compared to the big conferences, but that was more than a decade ago and most top-20 teams have since played a mid-week game.

    To my Ute friends: why wouldn't you rather play on a Thursday night on a national network as opposed to playing on a Saturday on a regional network? Granted you can watch either, but these days it is all about exposure, and ESPN provides it.

  • Independent Henderson, NV
    July 19, 2011 4:40 p.m.

    "Now if they can get Kentucky and Vandi they can claim all the dredges of the SEC."

    The error in conference affiliation aside, The top teams in the SEC play the dredges of the SEC every year. It works for them, and all we ever hear about is how SEC teams have to play other SEC teams week in and week out. What's wrong with BYU doing it? Similarly, Boise State has made it to two BCS bowls by playing some of the the very same teams that will be on BYU's schedule next year and the year after. It worked for Boise State. Why can't BYU do it?

  • Independent Henderson, NV
    July 19, 2011 4:45 p.m.

    Good points, Farid. And I would add that a win on a thursday or friday counts every bit as much as a win on a saturday. Furthermore, poll voters are far more likely to see a thursday or friday game that is televised than a saturday game that isn't televised.

  • UU32 Bountiful, UT
    July 19, 2011 4:54 p.m.

    Southern Miss is an upgrade from Wyoming, New Mexico, Colorado State, UNLV. Certainly better than the Idaho and Idaho States of the world. Nice pick up by Holmoe. This is the kind of game that will be crucial to BYU upgrading its entire schedule and getting exposure throughout the country. It isn't a top tier game like an Alabama, Auburn or Oregon, but you can't have a schedule full of all top 20 teams. You need to play other games that will lighten the load while still building the strength of schedule and credibility. This years schedule has a good dose of top competition, but the bottom half of the schedule is too weak. Scheduling Southern Miss types in the future rather than the bottom of the WAC will be very helpful and neccessary.

  • IndianaCoug Bloomington, IN
    July 19, 2011 5:16 p.m.

    They aren't ND or Texas... but they'll probably do better than the Utes this coming year. I say a pretty solid pick-up.

  • man of few words Salt Lake City, UT
    July 19, 2011 5:23 p.m.

    Brett Farve -- "What can I say? He's no Steve Young."

  • flynn is the coolest Salt Lake City, UT
    July 19, 2011 5:29 p.m.

    This game will balance out the schedule- it's not upper echelon, but not necessarily a gimme either.

    To detractors- It's always better to pad your schedule than to be the pad!

  • DD JayMario American Fork, UT
    July 19, 2011 5:39 p.m.

    I'd like to see a home and home scheduled with Southern California soon like our red neighbors to the north. We'll have to settle for Southern Mississippi and maybe College of Southern Idaho in the meantime.

  • Portland Trail Blazers Sandy, UT
    July 19, 2011 5:53 p.m.

    Wake me up when Utah actually accomplishes something in the land of unicorns and rainbows.

  • Portland Trail Blazers Sandy, UT
    July 19, 2011 5:58 p.m.

    hedgie,

    One more thing...

    Miami (the real "U" university), Notre Dame, Texas, Florida St., Penn State, Georgia Tech, USC, Washington, Cal, have all have or will be coming to BYU, or in your words, the land of unicorns and rainbows.

    So if BYU can get those guys to come to BYU,and Utah cannot, what does that make Utah/Rice-Eccles stadium? The land of _______ (fill in the blank).

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    July 19, 2011 6:36 p.m.

    Great team to play! Teams in the South are getting a chance to see BYU play in person. I've never been so excited about seeing BYU schedule teams. Wish we could see the beat down BYU put on them in Provo on BYUTV.

  • TrueBlue Orem, UT
    July 19, 2011 6:38 p.m.

    Despite the jealous rants from the kids on the hill, Holmoe is putting together a solid schedule for future years. A good mixture of teams like Texas, Boise State, and Notre Dame, mixed with teams like Hawaii and Southern Miss is just the type of schedule you want -- challenging, but not unreasonably so.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    July 19, 2011 7:23 p.m.

    If this is not a Nov. game then holmoe has failed big time.

  • MESOUTE Wandering, Earth
    July 19, 2011 8:09 p.m.

    Good scheduling pickup for BYU. I like it. The Screaming Eagles are usually a physical team and play hard.

  • TrollPolice Salt Lake City, UT
    July 19, 2011 8:18 p.m.

    DD JayMario

    "I'd like to see a home and home scheduled with Southern California..."

    If you weren't a Utah troll, you'd know that BYU had a home-and-home with the Trojans just a few years ago.

    And, BYU will be hosting Notre Dame and Texas in the near future, something the PAC 12 Utes will never be able to pull off with that cute little stadium on the hill.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    July 19, 2011 8:30 p.m.

    I believe we'll continue to see more additions like this, to fill up the middle part of our schedule. By 2013 or 2014, I think we'll have a schedule that is comparable to AQ conferences, excluding the SEC.

    I'd much rather play a solid C-USA opponent like So Miss or UCF than one of the bottom teams in an AQ conference like Washington St or Colorado.

    Some U trolls like to brag about their record against AQ conference teams, but their recent games include a lot of teams like Louisville (2X) and Iowa St. So Miss is at a much better team than these type of programs.

    Most preseason polls have So Miss in the 40 - 55 range, which is the same range as Oregon State, Cal, and Arizona.

    All indications are that So Miss will continue to perform comparable to a middle team in an AQ conference.

    Great addition to the schedule, and more proof that we are going to be able to have a solid schedule going forward. Go Cougs!

  • fresnogirl Fresno, CA
    July 19, 2011 8:33 p.m.

    hedgehog,

    We must look good in your rearview mirror -- you can't take your eyes off of us!

    Have fun watching the games!

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    July 19, 2011 8:41 p.m.

    According to Tom and Bronco the phones are ringing off the hook with teams that want to play BYU... And the best they can do is Southern Miss.?

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    July 19, 2011 9:04 p.m.

    Howard S.,

    That's right, you got it! They are playing one of the better teams in a decent conference. You already missed deals he announced with Texas, Notre Dame, Boise State, Mississippi, Georgia Tech, Hawai'i, etc. Just one more quiver too add to their collection. Aren't you glad they aren't scheduling teams like Montana teams? Man, that would be lame. Gee, keep up with BYU news a bit more will ya? Maybe you should check back to BYU blogs 10 times instead of 5 times a day so you aren't missing the news!

    Look for more announcements about Nebraska and ACC teams etc.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    July 19, 2011 9:12 p.m.

    UU32 is exactly right. BYU needs a mix of top teams and then some solid teams. So. Miss is a solid team. It is a winnable game and if BYU wins it is a respectable win. BYU shouldn't, and won't, play only elite teams. They need a good mix and this is a good mix. It also contributes to their goal of playing in different parts of the country. This is a really good game to schedule, well done Tom. Also nice analysis of it UU32.

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    July 19, 2011 9:16 p.m.

    Striker

    You must have forgotten about your scintillating future schedule of New Mexico State, San Jose State, Idaho, Idaho State.

    Hey, but the upside is that with Boise on the schedule too, BYU may be the Idaho state runner up.

    Nebraska... the ACC? yeah right we'll keep waiting... and if they do call it will be 2-for-1s.

    Oh, and we'll also keep waiting for that call from the Big 12... and waiting... and waiting... and waiting...

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    July 19, 2011 9:24 p.m.

    Uh howie....Georgia Tech is in the ACC. Home and home. LOL!

  • SLC BYU Fan Salt Lake City, UT
    July 19, 2011 9:34 p.m.

    This one game (Southern Mississippi) being firmed up for 2014-2015 tells me the Big-12 by 2013 is a very real possibility for BYU. Holmoe will need some good mid-major home and homes by then and I think he is discussing schedules by contingency at this point at the advice and possible consent of Texas and Big-12 commissioner Dan Beebe. I think Texas went ahead and did the contract for 2013/2014 on the basis that BYU just might be a league member by then and it will move under the league schedule. Typically a program committed to true independence will have 9-10 games for 2013 firmed up by this point.

  • riddlemethis Clearfield, UT
    July 19, 2011 9:40 p.m.

    Howard:

    This just in: Georgia Tech is in the ACC! Your long nightmare of a wait is over.

  • Billy Budd Saint George, UT
    July 19, 2011 10:19 p.m.

    Southern Mississippi's football stadium holds 33,000.

    It should easily be filled for the BYU game.

    Southern Mississippi:

    has won 9 games twice in the last 10 years.

    has had 10 consecutive winning seasons.

    played in bowl games 9 out of the last 10 seasons.

    0 and 9 against SEC teams over the last 10 seasons (did not play SEC in 2009).

    6 and 6 against teams from other BCS Conferences in the last 10 seasons.

    What, at first glance (Conference USA etc.), appears to be two winnable games, could easily end up a win, at Provo and a loss, at Hattiesburg.

    All the makings of a potential "trap" game, especially at Hattiesburg.

    Go Cougars!

  • Doctor J Manti, UT
    July 19, 2011 10:30 p.m.

    BYU is on ESPN 10 times...

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    July 19, 2011 11:44 p.m.

    Southern Mississippi's Strength Of Schedule was 97 out of 120 and they still had five losses. Say what you will, but losing to this team would be like losing to Utah State. (oops sorry) See for yourself:

    (L) South Carolina 13-41
    (W) Prairie View A&M (FCS) 34-7
    (W) Kansas 31-16
    (W) Louisiana Tech 13-12
    (W) Marshall 41-16
    (L) East Carolina 43-44
    (W) Memphis 41-19
    (L) UAB 49-50
    (W) Tulane 46-30
    (W) UCF 31-21
    (W) Houston 59-41
    (L) Tulsa 50-56
    (L) Louisville 28-31

  • BluCoug Provo, UT
    July 19, 2011 11:50 p.m.

    Well hedgehog 3/4 of the PAC is worst then the teams you mentioned, utah included.

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    July 19, 2011 11:50 p.m.

    KY and Vandy are about as good as MI the last 3 years.

  • defibman Syracuse, UT
    July 20, 2011 6:08 a.m.

    Not only are they a good team, but can you imagine the recruiting possibilities this will bring? With greater and greater exposure, BYU will be bringing in great players from all over the country.

    But then again we could just go for those wonderful athletes from Montana, or try to recruit athletes away from USC, Stanford and the like to play in RES. LOL!

  • Laser Iowa City, IA
    July 20, 2011 7:42 a.m.

    Week after week the most popular and most read articles are about BYU. Kudo's to cougar fans who really care and a big thanks to ute fans who read BYU articles first thing each morning and pretend not to care.

    All reporters and newspapers know, if you want readership, write about BYU.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    July 20, 2011 8:01 a.m.

    One things for sure playnig Idaho State is better than playing utah.

  • Ldsfan South Jordan, UT
    July 20, 2011 8:03 a.m.

    (L) South Carolina 13-41
    (W) Prairie View A&M (FCS) 34-7
    (W) Kansas 31-16
    (W) Louisiana Tech 13-12
    (W) Marshall 41-16
    (L) East Carolina 43-44
    (W) Memphis 41-19
    (L) UAB 49-50
    (W) Tulane 46-30
    (W) UCF 31-21
    (W) Houston 59-41
    (L) Tulsa 50-56
    (L) Louisville 28-31

    These teams are right on par with BYU so it should be another close game for both teams.

  • mgr63 DALLAS, TX
    July 20, 2011 8:04 a.m.

    Oh my goodness! So. Miss?

  • Dutchman Murray, UT
    July 20, 2011 8:22 a.m.

    SLC BYU Fan,

    Does that mean that Notre Dame is on board to join the BIG 12-2(?), because Texas AD DeLoss Dodds is on record stating that the conference will not expand without Notre Dame. Just wondering if your information has AD Holmoe and AD Dodds getting a positive nod from Notre Dame to join.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    July 20, 2011 8:34 a.m.

    Hmmmm, a 1 for 1 with a Conference USA team??

    I thought holmoe was going swing the massive "brand" hammer on these low non AQ conferences.

    Interesting. Even with the ESPN "free money" given out to any takers, playing in Provo is still a very hard sell.

  • Van52 OREM, UT
    July 20, 2011 8:47 a.m.

    This agreement with Southern Miss shows we shouldn't have Oct. and Nov. scheduling problems, their statement shows that:
    "We have shown over our history that we like to play quality non-conference opponents and, by signing a home-and-home series with BYU, this is another example of that philosophy in our scheduling,"

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    July 20, 2011 8:54 a.m.

    If and I mean "IF" the Big 12 ever entertains the notion of inviting the kewgs, they would come in as a second tier program. Texas would never put up with all the high maintnance demands of bYu.

    bYu would not get equal pay as Texas.
    bYu would be forced to play on Sunday.
    bYu would not be allowed access to all content for bYutv.

    Just reality folks.

  • riddlemethis Clearfield, UT
    July 20, 2011 8:58 a.m.

    hedgehog | 8:34 a.m. July 20, 2011
    Ann Arbor, MI
    Hmmmm, a 1 for 1 with a Conference USA team??

    I thought holmoe was going swing the massive "brand" hammer on these low non AQ conferences.

    Interesting. Even with the ESPN "free money" given out to any takers, playing in Provo is still a very hard sell.
    ------

    Since Ute fans claim that the cutoff for recent and ancient history is 2004, here are the teams that have visited Provo since then:

    USC, UCLA, Arizona, Boston College, ND, Florida State.

    Future schedules include GA Tech, ND, Texas.

    Girlse St is also coming to town, but "since they a bunch of cheerleaders lol," you probably won't count that one.

    Oh and the NC2010Utes (per Zane Taylor) will be at LES in a couple months.

    I'd say it's not that hard of a sell.

    Let us know when these teams show up to RES. We'll be waiting with baited breath.

  • riddlemethis Clearfield, UT
    July 20, 2011 9:11 a.m.

    *Let us know when ALL these teams show up (obviously USC, UCLA, and AZ will be coming) UCLA has been "recently" but the rest, not a chance

  • Tommy2Shoes Lehi, UT
    July 20, 2011 9:45 a.m.

    I like this series. Hopefully we are ready to play well since 2013 will be the lasy year of Heaps and Co.

  • Dutchman Murray, UT
    July 20, 2011 9:47 a.m.

    defibman,

    "With greater and greater exposure, BYU will be bringing in great players from all over the country."

    That sure has worked well for Notre Dame hasn't it? They have had access to kids from all over the country and have yet to win a BCS bowl game. Most kids want to stay relatively close to home thus BYU's recruiting footprint will stay pretty much where it has been and where it is now.

  • Troll Hunter Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 20, 2011 9:49 a.m.

    Hey HedgeHog,

    So if the Big12 offers BYU to join, you know for a fact that the stipulations you stated in your comment earlier will happen huh? (eye roll)

    I think this is what you are hoping for, another conference showing religious intolerence to a private (LDS) school.

    I think I now know where your coming from....

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    July 20, 2011 9:50 a.m.

    Howard S., "And the best they can do is Southern Miss.?"

    No, the best they can do are Texas, Notre Dame, Georgia Tech -- other former National Champions, like BYU. Like other National Champions who've voluntarily come to BYU, like USC, and National Championship Contenders like Washington and Miami (defending National Champion) who came to BYU and got their butts kicked.

  • Moderate Salt Lake City, UT
    July 20, 2011 9:52 a.m.

    Weird that 2014 now has more opponents penciled in that 2013 does. Not even the Utah game has a set date in 2013. Colorado and Colorado State have their rivalry dates set through 2020. They should lock that down, unless Utah is looking at that one year BYU, next year USU rotation.

  • Starfarer Mesa, AZ
    July 20, 2011 10:07 a.m.

    Hedgie,

    Do you ever tire of commenting on BYU boards, only to be proven wrong over and over and over again?

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    July 20, 2011 11:10 a.m.

    @Dutchman

    " Most kids want to stay relatively close to home thus BYU's recruiting footprint will stay pretty much where it has been and where it is now."

    Uh Dutchman....BYU just got committments from two players from Florida, multiple players from California and are probably going to get a committment from a kid from S. Carolina here in the next few months. That doesn't count the kids they currently have from Texas, Alabama, Indiana, Florida, Illinois, Hawaii, Oregon, Idaho, Nevada, California, Arizona, Colorado, and basicly every single other western state.

    In otherwords BYU's recruiting footprint already covers the entire nation and the numbers of recruits from outside the west are increasing already.

    Does utah have a "recruiting footprint" that geographically large?

  • Dutchman Murray, UT
    July 20, 2011 11:25 a.m.

    Duckhunter,

    From the list of states that you mentioned I am sure Utah's recruiting footprint comes pretty close to being the same size. But you are exaggerating a bit to say that BYU's recruiting footprint covers the entire nation, aren't you?

  • nosaerfoecioveht NSL, UT
    July 20, 2011 11:33 a.m.

    Who?

  • Johnson72 Salt Lake City, UT
    July 20, 2011 11:54 a.m.

    I think I'm going to have a much harder time teaching my kid how to make cupcakes than byu's cupcake scheudle coming up.

  • defibman Syracuse, UT
    July 20, 2011 2:23 p.m.

    @ Dutchman

    Uhhhh...You are talking ND and I am talking BYU. Apples and Oranges. People respect BYU MUCH more than you would think. I know I lived in Oklahoma for 15 years and was a big OU fan. Just look at the number of kids who respect the Honor Code who are not even LDS. By pointing a some who do not like the HC does not mean that everyone doesn't like it.

    "Mark it down", BYU will be gaining lots and lots of positive attention in the coming years and will leave the u in the dust!

  • Osgrath Provo, UT
    July 20, 2011 2:29 p.m.

    Johnson72, I'll give you points for cleverness, which is part of the purpose of posting here for you, isn't it? For accuracy you get a zero, but since when has that mattered. The Idahos and New Mexico States are necessary filler on a quick change of direction, but Texas, Notre Dame, Georgia Tech, etc. are the meat of the schedule. Every schedule has cupcakes, but the real nutrition comes elsewhere. It looks like BYU is doing fine.

  • Dutchman Murray, UT
    July 20, 2011 3:39 p.m.

    Laser,

    "Week after week the most popular and most read articles are about BYU"

    One of the most popular articles about BYU this week is about the critically injured BYU students getting treatment in the burn center at the University of Utah. It just goes to show that from time to time we can all come together for the common good even if it means some BYU students have to find their way to the University of Utah hospital. I hope they recover fully but I know they are being treated by some of the best medical people in the nation.

  • Troll Hunter Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 20, 2011 3:43 p.m.

    Still no comment from Hedge...

    priceless

  • gchris rock springs, wy
    July 20, 2011 8:26 p.m.

    @ Johnson 72
    Want to see a cupcake schedule? How about Montana St., Arizona State, Cal., Washington State, Colorado. Oh, Utah does have one tough opponent on September 17. Can't wait for that one. Building a schedule as an independent will take time and effort, but Holmoe is doing a good job. Southern Miss would probably beat most of the teams on Utah's cupcake schedule, including Utah.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    July 20, 2011 9:32 p.m.

    @Dutchman

    "But you are exaggerating a bit to say that BYU's recruiting footprint covers the entire nation, aren't you?"

    No.

  • NightOwlAmerica SALEM, OR
    July 20, 2011 10:37 p.m.

    Portland Trail Blazers said:

    "One more thing...

    Miami (the real "U" university), Notre Dame, Texas, Florida St., Penn State, Georgia Tech, USC, Washington, Cal, have all have or will be coming to BYU, or in your words, the land of unicorns and rainbows.

    So if BYU can get those guys to come to BYU,and Utah cannot, what does that make Utah/Rice-Eccles stadium? The land of _______ (fill in the blank)."

    One other thing....

    Nationally ranked teams will be part of Utah's schedule every year. They are in a BCS conference now that has ranked teams all the time.

  • NightOwlAmerica SALEM, OR
    July 20, 2011 10:45 p.m.

    Come on people!

    BYU's recruiting footprint will not change or improve hardly at all. The already get a recruit from here and there around the country. The majority of which come from the western U.S. Go back at look up BYU's player history. You are competing against every other D 1 football program in the country. Get real.

  • CougarOnTheProwl Murray, UT
    July 20, 2011 11:04 p.m.

    Southern Miss is a decent opponent, they arent a powerhouse by any means but still a solid team. Anyone who expects BYU or any team in the country for that matter to schedule tough opponents every week is being unrealistic. Even the top BCS conference teams have lesser opponents on their schedule, some schedule nothing but cupcakes for their non-conference schedule. What BYU is doing is putting together well-balanced schedules for the future. They have a good mix of top quality opponents as well as solid opponents mixed in. And there are a few cupcakes but like I said nearly every team has a few cupcakes on their schedule. The only teams that dont are of course the cupcakes themselves who struggle against every team they play.

  • truecoug1 Provo, UT
    July 20, 2011 11:20 p.m.

    @NightOwlAmerica "Nationally ranked teams will be part of Utah's schedule every year."

    And yet, ironically, there are none on their schedule so far this year. Granted, that will change, as it always does, but it is rather humorous that the two PAC 12 schools in the 2011 preseason top 25 (Oregon and Stanford) are not on Utah's schedule this year.

    Sidenote: BYU has 1 preseason top 25 team on their schedule (TCU, #14), but playing a schedule with the likes of Ole Miss, Texas, Utah, UCF, Oregon State, and Hawaii that, too, will likely change.

    @NightOwlAmerica "BYU's recruiting footprint will not change or improve hardly at all."

    Nice crystal ball there. Guess we'll have to wait and see what happens. It is encouraging to note, however, that we already have two recruits this year from the state of Florida, which is more than we've had from that state in the past 3 recruiting classes combined.

    But, again, time will tell if your statement proves true or not. I, for one, am inclined to disagree with you :)

    Go Cougars!

  • WHAT NOW? Saint George, UT
    July 20, 2011 11:21 p.m.

    @gchris

    "Montana State" = cupcake?

    Montana State has defeated Idaho State 12 out of the last 15 years.

    Idaho State @ BYU 10/22/11.

    Rankings:

    BYU "Cupcakes"

    Utah State 104
    San Jose State 113
    Idaho 103
    New Mexico State 119

    Utah "Cupcakes" (re: your comment)

    Arizona State 28
    Cal 54
    Washington St. 85
    Colorado 76

    BYU plays 4 of the worst 17 teams in college football in 2011.
    Idaho State is 3 and 33 over the last three years.

    Want to see a "Cupcake" schedule?

    Check out BYU Football 2011.

  • sandgrules Durham, NC
    July 21, 2011 9:52 a.m.

    Wish they'd come out and play UNC...

  • gchris rock springs, wy
    July 21, 2011 12:05 p.m.

    @What Now?

    The point is this: Every team has "cupcakes" on their schedule, including Utah, which in the future will probably be regarded by fellow PAC12 members as the "cupcake" on their schedules. BYU will have to balance their schedule, just as Notre Dame does (no, I'm not saying BYU is Notre Dame)and play some teams who might not be as competetive but need a BYU game for the money and their own exposure. Southern Mississippi is not one of those teams, just as Central Florida is not one of those teams this year. Utah will have its hands full competing in the PAC12 conference year in and year out and should worry less about what BYU is doing. The BYU game might be the biggest game on their schedule (from the comments of their fans) but as BYU grows its program, the Utah game will become less important to them. I think I'll go make a pan of cupcakes.

  • Moderate Salt Lake City, UT
    July 21, 2011 9:33 p.m.

    That Idaho State @ BYU game is interesting because it's on BYU TV. That means Idaho State is not just "playing for the money", they're playing for BYU's money. Instead of getting a check from ESPN for broadcast rights, they'll get a check from BYU.

    "Every team has cupcakes on their schedule".
    1280 pondered what a typical BYU schedule would look like. About 3 major teams, 3 or 4 mid-majors, the rest cupcakes. Looking at 2012-2015 the schedule is pretty much Texas, Boise State, Utah, Notre Dame, Georgia Tech. Those are probably the marquee games. Fans can expect mostly cupcake teams to fill out the next 3 years.

  • Uteology Fort Worth, Texas
    July 22, 2011 6:28 a.m.

    gchris

    The point is this: Every team has "cupcakes" on their schedule, including Utah, which in the future will probably be regarded by fellow PAC12 members as the "cupcake" on their schedules.

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    You mean like how TCU sees BYU on their 2011 schedule?

  • showmeyatd's Pleasant View, Utah
    July 22, 2011 12:11 p.m.

    I hope your right Uteology and TCU overlooks BYU like they did in 2006. Now that Robert Anae is gone Utah and TCU will not be shown the plays before we run them. Should make the games much more interesting for Kilani Sitake and Dick Bumpas. Both of these D coordinators knew exactly what was going to be run by our formations. I'm excited for both of these match ups now that Anae is gone.

  • GoGetter Sandy, UT
    July 23, 2011 8:02 a.m.

    I thought this Independence was going to bring in nationally competitive schools to play BYU. Next thing I know is DNews talking about Southern Miss and USU? Wow.

    Where are the schools of the caliber that BYU claims they are?

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    July 23, 2011 10:54 a.m.

    I can pretty much guarantee I am the only one who thinks this but every year I hold out hope that somehow wedgie has gained some IQ points and alas he makes a comment and blows that theory right up to the land of unicorns and rainbows. But no matter, I guess BYU should load up their schedule with Montana State, Wazzoooo, UCLA, Colorado, Cal. PHEW! what a mean schedule that would be.