I don't get it.If D-Will plays in Euro for 33% of what he was making
before, then doesn't that tell everyone that the players are willing to just
give in to the new CBA?!?!
I think the biggest sticking point is about the hard cap. Players don't want
their contracts limited (they want a "sky's the limit" future), and
owners want a level playing field (at least the majority of the teams).It's greed on the part of the players and survival on the part of the poorer
owners who can't afford to buy a championship.I'm getting to like
college basketball a whole lot more than the pro version. Too many
"entitled" pro athletes anymore.Long gone are the likes of
Stockton. He didn't even have an agent, did he?
And if the NBA actually bit the dust, would anyone attend the funeral?Not I.
The irony of this whole thing is that players complain that they aren't making
enough money here, yet they're going to europe for a fraction of what their pay
would be if they were to just go along with the new proposed CBA from the
owners. I'm sure the owners are ok with them leaving to europe because A: it
only helps the argument that players can make do with a smaller salary since the
players themselves are taking the initiative to make less, and B: its a good
wake up call to the pampered players when they go to these other leagues and
dont get babied like they do here, they'll come crawling back....
and the NBA will never bite the dust, too much money involved. if anything else
they'd just go get new players and keep the league going. NBA players have too
much ego at stake to give up basketball out of principle.
Let the NBA players go oversees and let the NBA owners hire the players from
oversees. Then the NBA will have players that really want to play and are
willing to do what it takes. I would rather watch a less talented player with
heart than a greedy talented player.
What Billy Hunter failed to mention was the fact that while European teams are
more than willing to employ NBA stars, they are not willing to pay them anywhere
near what they would be making in the NBA.There is a reason why the
top European players come to the NBA and our top players stay here. This isn't
going to scare GMs they know where the money is.
I really don't understand all the hatred towards NBA players. The last time I
checked nobody forced the owners to over pay them.
Both sides are at fault, I would say more owners than players for putting up the
type of cash they have to try to buy championships and paying the all star
players. The only way this gets fixed is to let the players walk, Take a hard
line due to the economy and put a hard cap on the league. If the players want
to go play in Europe where they will be forgotten, let them. You are crazy if
you don't think you can find some players to come in and play in the NBA for 3-5
million a year. You will have sub par talent for a couple of years, but
eventually they will come back. How do the players have any pull when this is
their only source of income. you are crazy if you think the owners are going
cave on this one.
I agree with Large Tuna, let em walk. They will be back. Do you think the NBA
couldn't go get some of those players that are over there playing in Eurpoe to
come back to the states and play for 3-5 million a year. The players have zero
chance of this going their way, they know that, thats why they are the ones
doing all the talking in the media, trying to puff out their chests and make
themselves look bigger than they are. That works on animal planet, not in the
NBA. Players better cave or they will take a 75% paycut over the next couple of
@ Zola South,NBA players are NOT hated. They're just on the wrong
side of the hard cap issue. That's all. Solve that, and most fans will be happy,
knowing that their small-market home team has an equal chance at a title because
all teams have the same amount to spend on players.And, owners ARE
forced to pay players a lot of money, otherwise some other team would get them.
It's not like the owners are a cartel agreeing NOT to outbid each other for top
talent.Top talent always goes to the highest bidder. And that's in
spite of the fact that owners own the rights to players via the draft. Owning
rights doesn't ensure you can underpay players and get away with it for very
long.Even though a player is drafted by a team, they can elect to
skip playing that year to nullify the team's hold on them, then be a free agent.
Or, they can sign for as much as the owner wants to give them, but for a short
time period with the ability to get into free agency quickly.Owners
can't build and maintain a talented team by underpaying.
I truly hope the owners stick to their plans. Let the players go to Europe and
earn much less. There are plenty of recent graduates from college that would
love to have the opportunity to play. Owners should put together a
"replacement" type team and have a season.
@ Bear6,I wouldn't watch a replacement team. Teams are as much who
the players are as who/where the team is.However, replacement refs
were fun that year they did it, because they didn't give superstars
super-leniency in calls. It allowed teams without a superstar or two to compete
more fairly.Kinda like what happened to Duncan in his first Olympics
games--he didn't get superstar treatment and spent more time on the bench than
someone of his caliber is used to.That contrast sure showed how much
prejudice there is in NBA refereeing in favor of established players. In some
ways, that's a little bit okay, but I think they go overboard sometimes.I view most NBA refs as honest, but some I definitely don't care for,
for the reasons stated.
I do not understand why the league cannot just set a hard cap and eliminate the
exceptions. The owners of the teams are the "employers" and the
players are the "employees", so to speak. I would guess the players
are more like independent contractors rather than employees. The NBA is doing
the players a favor, making it possible for them to earn a living. The players
are doing the league a favor, along with their teams, as they supply a product
that is desired by those who purchase tickets, ie the "fans". Since
the players have to sign a contract in order to play for the NBA, why can't the
NBA control the amount of each contract to be assured it does not violate the
NBA, rules, including the cap. The NBA just needs to set the hard cap,
eliminate the exceptions, and advise the players union. If they do not accept,
they can go their merry way. The NBA can hire replacement players if the
players refuse to accept the contracts, the hard cap, etc. What am I missing?
Well, I guess D-Will signed to play overseas in Turkey. Maybe he and Memo will
hookup in the homeland?I can't remember which local sports blowhard
was adamantly bashing the idea that D-Will would play overseas and said it was
all posturing to exert pressure by his agent.Talk show host seem to
know less than the average sports fan. Surprise, surprise. Not. I thought
players would be doing it as soon as the lockout happened...at least those
players who just like to play. D-Will clearly does not need the money...he is
just playing because he is competitive.See you around January when
all the lower tier players have run out of money and the union crumbles.