Don't leave angry... just leave!
Pagan Wow, you have some hate for Ron Paul much? He is a true
patriot and constitutionalist! MSM does a lot to try and keep Dr. Paul and his
policies in the dark from Americans. If you did real research on Dr Paul, you
would see that he is the Best chance American has to get back on track. I would
love to hear your arguments on why he wouldn't be good?
It's probably best that Ron Paul retire from Congress.He's so
focused on running for President now that he rarely attends committee meetings
and frequently misses floor votes.I admire him for vacating the seat
and letting it be filled by someone who actually cares about being a Member of
Pagan His party. That's your reasoning? The Republican Party has
completely lost its track, you always bring up the past and I usually agree, the
republican party has done a lot do destroy our country. Ron Paul wants to
withdraw all of our foreign troops, cut spending, audit and abolish the federal
reserve, abolish TSA and the Patriot Act. If he thought he had a shot at
winning under Independent then he would run Independent but he knows that the
only way to win is with the Republican nomination. So Ill ask again, what about
RON PAUL's policies don't you like? Not the republican parties policies, I'm
talking about Ron Paul.
"He said he's received more support for his 2012 presidential bid than any
before, and that he wants to concentrate exclusively on that race."Let's see, he wants to serve out his term through December 2012 and then
concentrate exclusively on his his presidential election campaign which, at the
latest, will be over and done with in November 2012? What am I missing here?
PagenI guess they are blocking my comments back, anyways, what facts
did you present to the question I asked? You lumped Ron Paul in with all
republicans, if you viewed his voting record you would notice that it hasn't
changed in over 30 years! He wants to withdraw all of our foreign troops, audit
and abolish the Federal Reserve, abolish the TSA, cut spending and reduce debt,
abolish the IRS. He would run independent if he thought he could win as an
independent but he knows that he needs the republican nomination to win. What's
bad about Ron Paul and his policies? Let me remind you that we are talking
about Ron Paul, not all republicans....
I disagree with Paul on quite a few issues, but I'll give him a huge amount of
credit for being consistent. You've got two-faced Republicans right now like
Cantor claiming that just voting for a raise in the debt ceiling is a huge
compromise for his Republicans. While they all voted 7 times to raise the limit
under W. I believe Paul did not vote for any of those raises, so kudos for him
to being true to his word, not just playing dangerous political games that they
will hope lead to America failing.
I'm glad to see Ron Paul retire.He has served honorable and it is time. I
didn't agree with his votes or most of what he sponsored but I do feel he was
totally sincere in what he did. That is worth something. I am
curious why Monkey Spider finds it necessary to attack Pagan anytime Pagan
posts. Is there some kind of delight Spider gets from his attempts to demean
Pagan?? This article was about the retirement of Rep Ron Paul. Not
owlmaster2 How am I attacking or demeaning pagan? What pagan said
made it seem like Ron Paul is a bad politician, and I take offense to that
considering that Ron Paul is one of the only men in office that really has
American citizens best interests at heart. His policies and voting record show
that, and I was just asking Pagan why he doesn't like Ron Paul, and his answer
was regarding republicans NOT Ron Paul, so I asked again and have yet to get a
response, I don't think I was attacking or demeaning at all.
Yeah, VST, Christie paid for it - after people criticized the joy ride.
Good Now we can elect Ru Paul who would get just as many votes.
Pagan/Pagen:Sometimes I actually agree with your posts. But on this
one you have made one grave error. By lumping Ron Paul with all the (R's), you
failed to realize that he has been opposed to US be any of these wars, quite
opposed. Yes Paul does have an (R) by his name in regards to his affiliation
but often goes against his own party, especially in regards to foreign
intervention. Paul is probably the one (R) that is closest to be a Libertarian.
That's why I like Ron Paul, he makes those Republican presidential debates
lively and by having absolutely no chance of winning he can just about say
I pulled this off of wikipedia. "He has gained prominence for his
libertarian positions on many political issues, often clashing with both
Republican and Democratic Party leaders. Paul has run for President of the
United States twice before, first in 1988 as the nominee of the Libertarian
Party and again in 2008 as a candidate for the Republican nomination." Ron
Paul may run on the Republican ticket but he is more a Libertarian. There are
things I like about him, things I don't. He is for much smaller government, as
a Libertarian, but sometimes he is too extreme and sometimes he just says things
that have nothing to do with what is being said. But I watch him every week
sing in the Tabernacle Choir ;)
I voted for Ron Paul last time, will do it again.Those who try to
rip the guy because of his party don't get it...he is NOTHING like the GOP. If
the Libertarians lost a few of their more extreme positions, they would become
the new and improved GOP, led by a person like Ron Paul. He is one of the few
who tried to reign in his party and push them a better direction. How can you
hate that (other than the fact that he pushed but ultimately failed)?He lacks the "charismatic leader" persona, but as an honorable man
and a though leader on practical matters in the US, he is fantastic.
Ron Paul has no chance of becoming president and had only a slightly better
chance of being re-elected to Congress. He had a very tough intra-party opponent
in his Texas district who doubtless would have cleaned his clock. He doubtless
saw the proverbial writing on the wall and decided to quit on his own terms
rather than suffering the humiliating defeat as an incumbent. (Other Incumbents
should take note.)
While I'm not personally Rep. Paul's biggest fan, I definitely think we need
more public officials who are willing to question the status quo and think
"outside the box," like him.I wish him the best on his
campaign and in retirement and am grateful for his honorable (scandal-free)
@Pagan. Ron Paul wants to legalize doobies. I cant see you disagreeing with
that. I do not do drugs. Never have. I think all illegal drugs and even too many
prescription drugs are stupid. But if legalizing drugs come with legalizing the
Constitution and freedom why not? I will support Ron Paul.
Let's see...- Anti-intervention (so, by definition, anti-offensive
war & anti-tax)- Historically consistent - a 30 year track record of
principled voting- Pro-constitution (so, by definition, pro civil
rights)- Anti-abortion - with experience as an obstetrician to inform his
views- Anti-Federal Reserve and its wealth-destroying currency
manipulation- Voted against Iraq, bailouts, QE1, QE2, challenges his own
party- Anti-corporatist: detests all inequality in the application of
laws- Military veteran who supports a strong defense- Lifelong
Christian married for 50+ years to same woman, no scandalsWhat more
do you want from a candidate? I seriously don't understand what people have
against this guy. He promotes every freedom imaginable (speech, association,
right to bear arms, free market) and has demonstrated his commitment to
constitutional principles while remaining unflappable in the face of 30 years of
corporate lobbying. Here is a guy who could bring all sides together like no
one before him because his message is popular...liberty for all.All voters who take seriously the privilege of participating in the
democratic process owe it to themselves and others to learn about this man.
I'm sure I don't agree with EVERYTHING Ron Paul supports, but even given what
little I know about him he seems to be an honorable man who is committed to the
basic principles of freedom. I do need to do some more research on him, but out
of the choices so far, he'll most likely be the one to get my vote. I'm
certainly not voting for Romney, Huntsman, Palin, Huckabee, Trump, or anyone
else that has been talked about in recent weeks.
I agree with some posts that Ron Paul is not your everyday Republican. He wants
to get out of the wars--I agree with that. If he truly is for ending unfair
loopholes in tax policy for corporations, I can agree with that as well. I
think everyone is anti-abortion. I don't know women who think to
themselves...you know, I think I will get pregnant so I can have an abortion.
It is much more of a complicated issue than some would like to believe. Women
don't make this decision lightly. It is very difficult to define health of the
mother. I believe since it is their life on the line, they should make the
choice and not a government agent...kind of big government there--tracking every
pregnancy. I don't think women should be forced to deliver babies from rape and
incest, seems really wrong.Ron Paul does believe in such a limited
government that I believe it would bring us back to the early 1900s. The idea
that business will take care of everyone--not really good. Needs to be a
balance there to help keep the greed of business from ruining society.
At 75 and after how many terms in office, it's about time that Ron Paul retire.
Now, if his contemporary Orrin Hatch (77 if I'm not mistaken) would take the
hint . . . .
I do not agree with some of his ideals, but would that all Republicans had half
the gumption, ideals, and morals that this man has. We'd all be much better
Thanks for the backup people, I think from all the posts it is evident that Ron
Paul is much different than the rest of the Republicans running for President.
While I do not agree with some of his policy or ideology, I believe Ron Paul is
as patriotic as you can get. He stands by his guns and has a lot of integrity.