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Utah Jazz pick up options on C.J. Miles, Derrick Favors and Gordon Hayward

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  • mkSdd3 Ogden, UT
    June 29, 2011 2:35 p.m.

    This is great as long as CJ remembers to play within the system. He is no MJ and shouldn't be shooting 20 shots a game.

    His athleticism will be valuable and as long as he keeps improving he will be an asset.

  • williary Kearns, UT
    June 29, 2011 3:00 p.m.

    For his reasonable salary, I like CJ as a bench scorer. No, he's not consistent, and lacks discipline at times, but who else on this team is going to score? Good move by the Jazz.

  • Anonigma Murray, UT
    June 29, 2011 3:06 p.m.

    " .. Now I'm back to work"

    I might be misinterpretting this here, but that line is what worries me about Miles. Has he just been playing Call of Duty the last 2 months or so and now he's going to start working out?

  • bigsoccer Syracuse, UT
    June 29, 2011 3:21 p.m.

    Not only has he been playing Call of Duty for two months now, he has been cafe rio everyday also, and probably partying a lot also, he is a fat out of shape athlete who I think can be good, but I think we should've traded him 4 years ago when they had that shot.

  • Theeng2 Holladay, UT
    June 29, 2011 3:30 p.m.

    When Miles attacks the basket he is awesome. It's when he starts shooting off balance shots, fade aways, and low percentage shots that sometimes hurts the team. He would be a lot more consistent if he only took quality shots and tried to get to the basket more.

  • SloanHater Farmingtown, IL
    June 29, 2011 3:30 p.m.

    Anonigma,

    He said 'BACK to work' NOT 'time to start working.' From what I understand, most of the Jazz team has been working hard with P3 since the end of the season.

  • scalman Temecula, CA
    June 29, 2011 4:00 p.m.

    Good move by the Jazz. Hoping CJ and Burks and Gordon and Jeremy take it too each other in the gym. Corbin said those that earn their minutes through hard work and competition will play. CJ is going to have to get in good running shape...I have a feeling the others are already. Go Jazz!

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    June 29, 2011 4:10 p.m.

    I think it would be really hard to keep perspective if you were getting paid $3.7 million. Most people would retire if they won a $3.7 million lottery.

    The thing is, he's getting $3.7 million because he's a BARGAIN, not because he's a great player. How does one get motivated to pursue greatness under those circumstances.

    Think about it: the thing you hear about every truly GREAT player -- M.J., Malone, Stockton, Dirk, Reggie Miller, Chris Mullin, Kareem, Magic, Bird -- is that he was the hardest working player on their team. (Those names are off the top of my head and chosen, in part, because some, like Mullin, Miller, Stockton weren't physically gifted but were gym-rat-workout-animals.)

    Sadly, I don't see C.J. ever becoming great, because he just doesn't have the fire, the work ethic, the desire, the character to become great.

  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    June 29, 2011 4:43 p.m.

    two core players...Hayward and Favors...add Burks and Kanter...and that's a bright future...hope those four players can stay in our organization for their entire careers...they might end up bringing the championship in Utah...

  • TownsvilleJazzFan Townsville, Queensland
    June 29, 2011 4:46 p.m.

    I share the same reservations about CJ as many of you who have already responded to this article, but the fact is that the Jazz are very thin at the wing positions and CJ is still young and improving and is good value at 3.7 million.

  • Doctor J Manti, UT
    June 29, 2011 4:51 p.m.

    Glad to hear we are going to be watching Haywood & Favors!

    cj???

  • carmennora SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    June 29, 2011 5:23 p.m.

    I love CJ, ever since he came here from High School. He never got to play for a very log time in a game and when he would get hot, they would take him out. Can't wait for this season.

  • byronbca Salt Lake City, UT
    June 29, 2011 5:41 p.m.

    This is a smart move, CJ has value, if nothing else he can be used as trade bait. I don't think he's a starter in this league, but he's a solid bench player at a fair price.

  • VeraLouise Sandy, UT
    June 29, 2011 5:41 p.m.

    Are they keeping Jeremy Evans? I hope so. I am really excited about this group of young men and their potential. (I know, everybody hates that word.) I dread the possibility of a lockout and not having the schedule taped up on my refrigerator the minute it comes out in August. I enjoy being a neurotic Jazz fan, even though it drives my husband nuts.

    Go Jazzboys (whenever)!!!

  • BlueSaint South Jordan, UT
    June 29, 2011 6:41 p.m.

    My reaction? Of course the Jazz will pick up his option! What else would they do? They are the Jazz....The best franchise at making mediocrity look so competitive. CJ miles? Are you kidding me? Jazz front office magic at it's best once again.

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    June 29, 2011 7:02 p.m.

    Now that he is signed, the Jazz can trade his talents to South Beach play the point for the Heat.

    It was apparent that the Jazz did nothing to improve their outside shooting in the draft. So they had no choice but to sign CJ to another year. Good move on the Jazz part. A solid scorer at under 4 million. Cheap in the NBA.

    CJ stopped to tweet during one of his workouts. That is why he said what he said. CJ is a workout animal during the offseason. Every year he comes back stronger and bigger.

  • peter Alpine, UT
    June 29, 2011 7:46 p.m.

    Hayward is the real deal! He has everything that a complete player needs to win. Shooting 54% from the arc in the final 27 games is phenomenal, even for a vet. WOW!

  • philaD Clifton Heights, PA
    June 29, 2011 7:48 p.m.

    Not the worst decision the Jazz have made. Although, I hated last season because CJ was the difference maker. When he was good, the Jazz were good. When he was having an off day (and the record last year shows how many off days he had) the Jazz usually lost.

    Hope he comes through and proves all his doubters (including me) wrong. Get back to work kid!

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    June 29, 2011 7:51 p.m.

    1320 KFan interviewed CJ today, listen and you'll see he has been working out since his knee healed. CJ wants to lose a little weight and be able to run harder, longer, and play more minutes without losing his energy. He wants to start at the 2, both he and Hayward are best at the 2. One of them will probably end up starting at the 3, unless Corbin decides to experiment and start Milsap at the 3. I would love to see Evans show that he has worked hard enough and developed his skills so he could play the 3.
    I want to give CJ one more chance, if he can't prove to be consistent then trade him at or before the trade deadline.
    If CJ can prove he can play consistently, he will be well worth his salary and much more and he will be a player the team wants to keep.

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    June 29, 2011 8:11 p.m.

    It's a real pain to think that there will probably be a lock out. It would be nice if CJ or one of the other vets would do like John Beck and get the team together to practice and workout together and help the youngsters develop. Leadershop!!!

  • Jazz Source Alpine, UT
    June 29, 2011 9:29 p.m.

    Re: Carmennora said "He never got to play for a very log time in a game and when he would get hot, they would take him out."

    What planet do you live on? Did you read the article? He logged career highs in minutes. This of course would never have happened if they took him out whenever he got hot because that was once every 7-10 games. Apparently you ignored his near career lows in shooting %.

    re:CJ Miles said "...the Jazz did nothing to improve their outside shooting in the draft. So they had no choice but to sign CJ to another year."

    Apparently you can't read either. CJ's shooting %'s drug the team average down and you are trying to make the case that is why they kept him? For shooting? Evidently everything is bigger in Texas including your fantasies CJ.

    They kept him because he is cheap by NBA standards...for a backup role player. He clearly demonstrated last season he is completely incapable of any consistency whatsoever and does best when there is no pressure and he is the 4th option to score.

    Its sad all these rookies will get and deserve more minutes.

  • Vince the boonies, mexico
    June 29, 2011 9:51 p.m.

    C.J. was signed in the hopes that another team will agree to a trade involving him and other possible duds that the Jazz have carried the past year or two. It's the Jazz only option after finding out once again that they made a huge mistake when signing him out of high school. (Stevenson anyone?) The sad part about this whole fiasco is that a couple years ago Oklahoma City signed him to a contract and the Jazz matched unbelievably. That is where his career should have ended with us, but here we are 2 years later "STUCK" with a dumb stupid investment. Oh well!

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    June 29, 2011 11:12 p.m.

    CJ is cheaper than JR Smith and a better citizen. The Jazz lack 3 point shooting and when CJ is not the only 3 point option he does better. His percentages should pop back up this season if Hayward is hitting a good percentage of 3s from the SG spot.

    CJ actually has better numbers as an SF (82 games). He may start at SF if AK does not return.

    The Jazz should improve if CJ, Hayward and Burks can do a good efficient job of shooting 3s. That will help open up the inside a bit. One more 3 point shooter of Korver's talent would really help.

    The Jazz are moving away from players who can only get shots from the Sloan system to players who can create their own shots.

    Creators can play within the system and then create when the flex is stuffed or breaks down.

    Teams learned how to stop the flex in the last 2 years mostly because the Jazz has insufficient shooting talent but also a lack of players who could create if necessary.

    KOC is fixing the creator problem but need more shooting.

    CJ and Burks on the 2nd team is good.

  • Iowa Jazz Fan 2 Cedar Rapids, IA
    June 29, 2011 11:15 p.m.

    Interesting that the Jazz announced picking up the rookie contracts of Hayward and Favors -- but not that of Evans. This worries me. Why wouldn't they pick up his contract? If they intend to do so, why not do it at the same time as for the other rookies?

    Evans in my opinion has enough potential not to be throwing him on the trash heap after a single season.

  • T-spoon West Jordan, UT
    June 30, 2011 12:25 a.m.

    @Iowa Jazz Fan 2,

    I believe that Evans contract was for 1 year. Thus there was no option to pick up, whereas Hayward and Favors had the options on their contracts. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

    I don't think he will be signed until a new CBA is agreed upon. Again, correct me if I'm wrong.

  • Anonigma Murray, UT
    June 30, 2011 2:30 a.m.

    Ok I probably misinterpreted CJ's tweet then.

    I do hope he lives up to the potential that he has, especially in his contract year. CJ really needs to boost up his shot selection more than anything, but it also won't kill him to be working out.

    On another note.
    What about Jeremy Evan?!?
    Shouldn't his contract be renewed? I hope they don't let him go...

  • SGT_UTE Fort Hood, TX
    June 30, 2011 3:26 a.m.

    RE: Theeng2
    "He would be a lot more consistent if he only took quality shots."

    Really, that's the best analysis you've got of Miles? All players would be better, more consistent, etc. if they only took quality shots. unfortunately for you, some teams in the NBA play two parts to the game, offense and defense. I challenge you to point out one player in all of NBA history who was better at taking difficult shots than easy shots.

  • byronbca Salt Lake City, UT
    June 30, 2011 7:29 a.m.

    Re Iowa Jazz fan2 and T-spoon:

    Evans was a second round pick so his contract isn't structured like a 1st rounder's, there are no options to be picked up by the Jazz, it's just a 2 year contract that expires at the end of the 2011-12 season.

    I do hope that the Jazz can work out some kind of an extension so there is no Milsap/ Mathews situation next offseason. Unless he can put on some weight I don't think he'll ever be a starter, but he could be a solid rotation player and he sure is fun to watch.

  • jockey Kearns, UT
    June 30, 2011 7:53 a.m.

    I can't believe that they will keep Miles and let Milsap, Harris and maybe Jefferson go. O'Conor should be the one to go.

  • JFFR Salt Lake City, UT
    June 30, 2011 7:59 a.m.

    @Anonigma, the Jazz have Jeremy Evans for another year.

    @peter, CJ Miles DID NOT shoot 54% from behind the arc for the final 27 games. In fact, he shot 16.7% for the month of March.

    The best quote was from Bugoff "CJ Miles comes cheaper than JR Smith and is a better citizen"

  • Dr Truth SLC, ut
    June 30, 2011 8:32 a.m.

    First post in awhile. Kudos to KO for what he has done to turn over this roster so far and in getting NBA size + at every position through the draft so far the past couple of years. Getting bigger addresses the rebounding issue.

    CJ is an ok 3 pt shooter + an expiring contract in the new soon to be lower salary cap of the CBA is also a bonus. CJ (if he doesn't improve)+ Memo may get you a young up and coming player if you can absorb the salary-bye AK.

    Lastly, I think Raja can provide some outside shooting if he is healthy. You can try and pick up another FA shooter in the future. Now if Corbin can change the defensive philosophy while keeping the offensive productivity of the past then we have the beginnings of a fresh start. Play the young guys (lottery bound), next year's draft should be something special. Maybe the Jazz can get a star in 2012.

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    June 30, 2011 8:42 a.m.

    We have to give Corbin a chance to make the changes he wants to make and see how they impact the game and the players. Locke was tweeting some info about CJ, he had the hightest plus/minus of anyone on the team with over 1000 minutes. CJ did take alot of forced shots and shots at the end of the clock , if he can improve his shot selection he could have a good yr. He's not as bad as alot would make him out to be. He is frustrating though, he can't be depended upon to have a good game and that has to change before the trade deadline or he needs to be moved.

  • Shanon P. BLANDING, UT
    June 30, 2011 8:51 a.m.

    I agree with philaD... CJ was the difference maker last season whether we want to admit it or not. I'm hoping that with the options we have at 2 and 3, CJ will feel constrained to be more selective in his shooting and more committed to the other end of the floor or he might find himself on the bench for the majority of the season.

    All else considered, decent move by the Jazz.

  • COOL HAND LUKE Old Ephraims Grave, UT
    June 30, 2011 8:57 a.m.

    The 54% over the last 2 1/2 months of the NBA season was shot by Hayward.

  • COOL HAND LUKE Old Ephraims Grave, UT
    June 30, 2011 8:59 a.m.

    The 54% three pt shooting over the last 2 1/2 months of the NBA season was shot by Hayward.

  • NYJazzFan East Elmhurst, NY
    June 30, 2011 9:17 a.m.

    You guys are too hard on CJ, re-read the article, he has improved in every category (except three point percentage). Some of you "fans" out there will never be satisfied, you even hated Jerry Sloan, Karl Malone and Deron Williams... tsk tsk.

  • B Russ Ephraim, UT
    June 30, 2011 12:06 p.m.

    Captain L you bring up a good point about the Jazz offense and execution being so bad last year that many times the shot clock would run down they would pass it out to CJ for a forced three pt. attempt. I'm sure the forced bad shots have something to with his lower 3 pt. shooting percentage. I agree too he needs to get it together in his total game in preparation for next season ( if and when ) or he should be moved.

    @ Bugoff: Great observation about C J Miles being cheaper and a better citizen than J R Smith. I second it for the comment of the day.

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    June 30, 2011 12:10 p.m.

    The Jazz need to develop a system that does not require the PG to pound the ball on the floor for 18 of the 24 second clock. Pass the ball, set screens and run off picks. Ball movement with less dribbling win basketball games when you don't have a superstar who can score at will.

    The Jazz have all the talent needed to win games. Now they need to abort the Jerry offense and move towards a more open flow.

    Defensively, they all just need to work harder on the other end. it's all about commitment when it comes to defense.

  • LAJazzFan Los Angeles, CA
    June 30, 2011 1:54 p.m.

    If you look at the stats, the Jazz were much better when CJ played in place of Bell.

    Hopefully, either Bell comes back with a shot and healthy, or he gets very limited minutes/traded.

    I do see value in Bell teaching Burks how to play defense and get into the head of the opponent, though.

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    June 30, 2011 2:25 p.m.

    CJ plays better when he attacks the basket. He needs to limit his 3 point shots to 20% of his overall shots. He needs to put the ball on the floor and make the defense commit to him. He is a good passer when he wants to be.

    He is a lousy player when he stands on the 3 point line (Jerry's system) and jacks up shots. He needs to go hard to the glass and get to the line.

  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    June 30, 2011 5:19 p.m.

    Difference maker?...i think that title was taken by Hayward at the end of the season...clearly...he was the best option we had on the final portion of the season...Hayward won it against LA...he even played decent honest defense against Kobe...for me...Hayward is the future...he may not realize it...he may not say it...and no one would probably see it or speak of it...but that kid...is truly something special...i remember the play he had against toronto....almost a fast break layup for toronto...but he blocked it mid air...recovered the ball...ran back to the offense...dished a no-look pass to al jefferson for an easy 2...i dont see CJ doing stuff like that....but...still...i wanted to give CJ a chance...i think he should mold his game into what Grant Hill did...good Defender...and a guy who takes quality shots...if i see CJ take a moving three again...it simply means he doesnt want to improve or change his game

  • Doug10 Roosevelt, UT
    June 30, 2011 5:43 p.m.

    why oh why oh why?

    he is a bargain??

    how many bargains can the Jazz afford?

    hopefully soon the Jazz will stop shopping for players at the DI

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    June 30, 2011 6:17 p.m.

    One thing I think CJ needs to do better is he needs to drive and stop and pop from 10 to 12 ft on alot of his drives. He too often goes to far and ends up putting up off balance , contested shots that would be easier if he would stop his drive and pop the open jumper. If the lane is open all the way take it, I know drawing fouls is important but doing it smartly is what I want.
    I too like what I see in Haywards game better than CJ's , mostly because of how he sees the floor better. Also Hayward plays better D.

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    June 30, 2011 7:40 p.m.

    The Jazz are smart to exercise the option on CJ. They can use him in a trade for a little salary reduction, if they were to trade him before the trade deadline. There will be plenty of teams who would take him to help dump salary. It could backfire, however. If he is not traded by the deadline and has a breakout year, then we will have another Matthews situation. The odds are on the Jazz' side. He hasn't had a breakout year as yet and has been with the team 6 years. I think the Jazz did the right thing. Don't want to spend money for a guy who hasn't shown that he has even earned the money he has received.

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    June 30, 2011 7:53 p.m.

    To JFFR: anonigma and Peter were talking about Hayward, not CJ Miles.

  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    June 30, 2011 10:34 p.m.

    @panamadesnews

    you got it wrong...they were talking about Miles not Hayward...backread before calling people off

  • MLM SOLDOTNA, AK
    July 2, 2011 10:14 a.m.

    I am looking forward to the changes Corbin will make. The Jazz have a good system, but it is too predictable. Come play off time, if it still can happens, the Jazz need some unpredictability. To keep some long term players like CJ (6 years), AK (10 years), Miles (5 years), Price (6 years), and Okur (9 years), will help this talented young team. The character of the team is its most valuable asset. All NBA players are talented, how well do they fit into a team concept measures the secret of success. There is a remarkable opportunity here, I am hoping it materializes, and I believe Corbin is that material man. Those of you that believe it can happen, Kudos to you, those that don't need to join the Chicken Little Club, your sky is falling, or maybe your fly is open. It is time that the nay sayers go away. Grow to new heights Jazz.