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  • TheHailstorm South Weber, UT
    June 24, 2011 5:22 p.m.

    Great responses from the pro journalists, defying all of the oracles in blue. I too would have liked to see the Jimmer in uniform but there is no reason to put a negative spin on it.
    We do have a first round pick from Golden State albeit protected from 7 down. With Mark Jackson as coach we might take that pick to the bank as well.
    Looking good Jazz, looking really good.

  • Vince the boonies, mexico
    June 24, 2011 5:44 p.m.

    I'll go to the bank with the media experts over local armchair GM's anyday. Great work to all of you in Jazz management, you have done an excellent job. Now a few tweaks and we are going to threaten the big boys in our conference and league in the near future. I hope the greeds negoitating the new labor agreement can get their crap together and pay some homage to the thousands of fans who pay for everything that goes on in this league and all of the other pro sports. This whole labor issue is sickening when considering the "BILLIONS" collected off from hard working fans. Settle and move on please!

  • SportsFan101 Bountiful, UT
    June 24, 2011 5:46 p.m.

    Hmm..All the fans on here seemed to think the Jazz had a terrible draft just because they didn't get the Jimmer. But the majority of the experts who make a living in these things, think the Jazz had the best draft? Interesting..Now. Here is to hoping we can see these kids actually play this year. Stupid lockout.

  • 1984 for life Salt Lake City, UT
    June 24, 2011 5:57 p.m.

    Nice draft Jazz. I'll say it again, sign Jason Richardson as the starting shooting guard and the Jazz are back in the playoffs.

  • chiefbrady Salt Lake City, UT
    June 24, 2011 5:57 p.m.

    So, essentially the Jazz traded D-Will away for Favors (who would have been the #1 pick this year) and Kanter (arguably the #2 pick this year), Harris and cash. Yeah, I'd say that was probably pretty shrewd of them - especially considering D-Will was just gonna be like Carmello and have drama all year and then bounce. I say WAY TO GO JAZZ!!!!

  • WhatsInItForMe Orem, Utah
    June 24, 2011 6:32 p.m.

    If Horny can get Burks to shoot treys well, this will have been a decent draft. A B+ grade. If not, a C grade. They needed a 3 more than a 2.

    Burks is quite athletic, and scored well in college. But his trey shooting will need to come up to snuff to make the grade.

    Getting both Kanter and Jimmer would have made it an A grade, because the Jazz needed proven trey shooting AND a PG that can assist. Kanter by himself is an A, and so is Jimmer. But, the Jazz couldn't get him, so we move on. (I now have TWO teams to root for.)

    Maybe the Jazz can find a assist-minded PG in the near future, like in FA or in next year's draft lottery.

    Or, can Harris be taught to run a team? Not so sure, as he's not shown that for a player who's been around as long as he has.

    Looking forward to what other moves the Jazz will make to fill out their roster. At least bring back Watson and AK, and maybe Fes.

    Go Jazz! Go Kings! Go BYU! Ah, what the heck, Go Utes!

  • SloanHater Farmingtown, IL
    June 24, 2011 6:34 p.m.

    Chiefbrady..

    Don't forget the Jazz could get another lottery pick in the next couple years from Golden State as part of the trade.

  • MiP Iowa City, IA
    June 24, 2011 7:01 p.m.

    It's true the Jazz gained some good talent in the DWill trade, but they scratched the 2010-2011 season to do it. They were headed to the playoffs this year and instead finished with their second losing season in 28 years and missed the playoffs. Now if Kanter and Favors do prove to be great assets---and stick around---then I will agree on the shrewdness of the deal.

    I still think it's a potentially great move.

    Just playing a little devil's advocate.

  • BillM75 Salt Lake City, UT
    June 24, 2011 7:44 p.m.

    MiP, don't let the Jazz' fast start fool you, they were 7-14 over DWill's last games here, plus his wrist was getting worse as we found out.

    As for these picks, just impossible to tell know. They're both 19 (as is Favors)! Both have all the physical tools, it will come down to attitude and work ethic.

    Kanter having 6% bodyfat after having to sit out a year is a huge green mark. Burks was a ballhog a la Jimmer, but he did have over 6 rebounds a game and is a great free throw shooter, plus his teammates were far worse than Jimmer's. I would've taken Singleton or Leonard, but Burk's offensive ceiling is far higher, and 90% of defense is effort. As Gordon showed, outside shooting can be improved, and we have the best shooting coach in the league.

    Kanter & Burks could be Koufos & Almond, or the could have the two best careers from this weak draft. At least Koufos has size & coordination, and Burks can create his own shot, which are other areas the Jazz have great need in.

    Check back in 2014.

  • Uteology Fort Worth, Texas
    June 24, 2011 7:45 p.m.

    WhatsInItForMe
    A B+ grade. If not, a C grade. They needed a 3 more than a 2.
    Getting both Kanter and Jimmer would have made it an A grade, because...

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    Let me guess, because your a die hard BYU fan? Jimmer would have jumped the Kanter pick two grades? Sorry I agree with experts, Kanter was the only choice at the 3 and we needed size. Burks so far looks like Brewer 2.0... will wait to pass judgment until around January when the season starts.

    The question now is do these young guys get significant minutes to develop? I hope so...

    Starting:

    C Kanter
    PF Favors
    SF Hayward
    SG Burks
    G Harris

    With that lineup we might win 10 games but what's the use of winning 40 games while the young kids waste time on the bench.

  • President Joker Washington, DC
    June 24, 2011 7:50 p.m.

    And in provo the Jazz get an F.

  • Outsideview Federal Way, WA
    June 24, 2011 7:56 p.m.

    DO guards really "develop" outside shooting after they reach the pro's?

    Do guards really learn to "dribble drive" after they reach the pro's?

    Alec is said to be a good driving guard. Hopefully, he really can learn to shoot from outside. You need a good outside game to have a good inside game. Just one option wont do it.

  • OrlandoJazzFan Winter Springs, FL
    June 24, 2011 8:21 p.m.

    Any way we can publish this article one more time in all caps so maybe the "arm chair quarterbacks" who know nothing about the game will be convinced. I can't believe you can read an article with the opinion of the experts and still be giving the Jazz draft low grades... I watched the draft from start to finish and I do not recall Jimmer being on the board at 12. Certainly you do not think he was a 3 pick???

    The Jazz filled some needs - stop whimpering and give them props for what they have accomplished. These two guys are going to be great additions.

  • thebigcougar LAYTON, UT
    June 24, 2011 8:29 p.m.

    Guards can develop their three point shooting after being drafted. Haywood shot the same percentage three pointers as Burks in College and shot 45% in the NBA last year. Lets hope Burks does the same. They booed Haywood's selection and look at him now.

  • Draft dumbie Farmington, UT
    June 24, 2011 10:01 p.m.

    Burks' shooting is fixable--nothing that taking a few hundred thousand practice shots cannot cure. Other than that, I think Burks looks a lot like Evan Turner, second pick in last year's draft.

  • Go Big Blue!!! Bountiful, UT
    June 24, 2011 11:17 p.m.

    Well done Jazz. Hopefully we get a full NBA season so we can see the team come together. I am sure there is still some tweaking to come in the free agent market.

    Go Jazz!!!!

  • Moderate Salt Lake City, UT
    June 25, 2011 12:11 a.m.

    RE: Outsideview
    According to Jeff Hornacek, yes. On the radio today, he said he did not have a good shooting percentage entering the league. He taught himself a new shooting style, and the rest is history.

  • mikeberwald LYDIA, LA
    June 25, 2011 7:13 a.m.

    I guess the argument could be made that the jazz should have taken leonard although leonard blew off a jazz workout, reasoning he wouldnt be available at 12. Just hope the Jazz did not overlook him because he did not come in, but maybe they reasoned they needed a slashing two more then a defensive-minded, rebounding 3. Bad sign when SA traded hill for him though.

    In Burks defense, 3-point shooting is one thing that can be improved (quickness, slashing and creating a shot, not as much ). Look at Stockton, who was not a great shooter (and a hesitant one)when he entered the league, who became a fantastic shooter. Jason Kidd is another one who improved. Only horribly defective strokes like Ronnie Brewer cannot be fixed. If you want to compare Burks to Brewer he is muchbetter offensively than Brewer, a better rebounder, the biggest question is if he can defend somewhat like Brewer. If he can, we got ourselves a 2 guard.

  • BlameItOnTheOfficials Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 25, 2011 8:16 a.m.

    Pay no attention to the "experts" in Provo. They were jimmered by jimmermania and can't think clearly. I'm sure we can find them some recoverly groups to work through this problem and they will find peace and happiness again in the Jazz.

    This was an excellent draft with youth, talent, and athleticism. Go Jazz, Go Cougs, Go Utes.

  • Jazz2Win Provo, UT
    June 25, 2011 9:41 a.m.

    I am a Jazz fan and will continue to support them...but can you imagine the excitement around here if they had gotten Kanter and Jimmer? Kanter has a strong personality and would have still thrived even with all the Jimmermania. The pro-Jimmer group would have been happy as well as those who don't believe as much in his talent as the Jazz would still have had a great prospect in Kanter. Ah well....

  • ExDixieIte Salt Lake City, UT
    June 25, 2011 9:58 a.m.

    The so-called experts gave Sacramento a D for drafting Jimmer?

    NO! That is IMPOSSIBLE!

  • Pale Bear Orem, UT
    June 25, 2011 11:11 a.m.

    I'm just glad Kanter's number is 0 and not 00. ;-)

  • scalman Temecula, CA
    June 25, 2011 11:29 a.m.

    @mikberwald

    Good points, and I was very surprised SA moved Hill, especially since I have heard pros and cons on Leonard locally, though mostly positive. I agree with most of what you said except for the last sentence.

    I would say instead...what we have is a backup SG (to Hayward) and a backup PG to Harris/Watson. Let's see how everything evolves over the next two years. I still think Burks will turn out to be either a pretty good SG long term or a surprise gem at PG. His greatest potential IMO is as a PG.

  • TheHailstorm South Weber, UT
    June 25, 2011 12:42 p.m.

    Maybe the Jazz could retain Malone on an as needs, interim coach for Kanter and let them beat on each other.
    Where Burks is concerned make him play defense AK47 and play offense against Bell in practice, then have extra schooling working over his outside shot.
    I see them as both hard working and wanting to learn. Desire can not be coached.
    There is another reason that I like our picks. Both have very good free throw % and can draw fouls. Drawing fouls accomplishes 3 things, the points @ the free throw line, getting the other teams in the penalty early in the quarter, and putting their bigs in foul trouble. Those little intangibles could win a few extra games during the season.
    Also why is everyone wanting to trade one of our bigs ?
    Millsap has more than dedicated his game for to the Jazz and Jefferson has that 20/10 potential.
    Big men can go out of a game easily. If one or two are out with Fes's hangover tummy aches or AK's/ Memo's back problems rear up, even with one in foul trouble you still will have the manpower to play on without disruption.
    Great Picks Jazz !

  • Ernesto de Bajo Albuquerque, NM
    June 25, 2011 9:26 p.m.

    Coming to an NBA arena near you, Enes Kanter matched up with Dwight Howard.

  • cedarpost Washington, Utah
    June 26, 2011 2:40 p.m.

    So Kanter averaged 2 points a game in the Euroleague. Ya definitely worth the 3rd pick overall. NOT. what a waste. If were lucky he'll average 10 pt and 10 rebounds in his best years. Not worth the 3rd pick. sorry. There's a lot more darkos than dirks.

  • Veracity Morgan, UT
    June 26, 2011 7:32 p.m.

    I am glad D. Will is gone.

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    June 26, 2011 11:54 p.m.

    Cedar post: You need to check stats on Kanter a little closer, he only played 4 games and didn't get hardly any time. His first game he got 10 minutes, 5 points, 2or3 boards, another game 3 pt, and two other games with no points put he played less than 2 minutes in one game and less than 5 in the others.
    He was MVP of the U18 European Championship, even as he played against prospects a year older than him. In the semi-final game, he posted 32 points, 25 rebounds and two blocks in 39 minutes against the tournament champion Serbia team. The bronze medal game was even better. In 36 minutes, Kanter scored 35 points on 16/22 shooting. He also grabbed 19 rebounds, stole three balls and blocked four shots against the Lithuanian team and big man prospect named Jonas Valanciunas. His overall tournament statistics were 18.6 points, 16.4 rebounds, 1.3 assists and 1.8 blocks

  • ed Los Olivos, CA
    June 27, 2011 9:56 a.m.

    Veracity-
    I, too, am glad Dwill and his no-D game are gone.

  • TheHailstorm South Weber, UT
    June 27, 2011 1:01 p.m.

    @ Captain L
    Thanks again for pointing out the obvious to the clueless !

  • TheHailstorm South Weber, UT
    June 27, 2011 1:09 p.m.

    @ Captain L
    It should be noted that David Alldridge and the NBA sportswriters ranked the Utah Jazz #1 with the best overall picks in this years draft. Their final rankings were released today.

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    June 27, 2011 2:02 p.m.

    I think most people would agree that Utah had the best draft of any team. Time will tell but things look good. I think everyone sees that Favors and Kanter will be or should be considered the 4/5 combo of the future and therefore we would all want to see them be put right into the starting lineup and given all the minutes they need to develop BUT that won't happen. It will take time for Kanter to progress and earn his minutes and the same with Favors although I hope he gets lots of minutes right from the start this season. We will need to be patient, it will take some time.

  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    June 27, 2011 6:08 p.m.

    @ExDixielte

    they gave sacramento a D...because they sacrificed a lot...to get jimmer...where in they could simply...grab him @7...instead...they traded up to 10...and got a horrible John Salmons contract...instead of earning money...they just made even...