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  • 1984 for life Salt Lake City, UT
    June 16, 2011 1:11 p.m.

    Knight is the pick.

  • Uncle Rico Sandy, UT
    June 16, 2011 1:14 p.m.

    If he went against Jimmer, he'd get jimmered too.

  • TheFitz Murray, UT
    June 16, 2011 1:32 p.m.

    I would prefer Knight or Walker 10 times out of 10 over Jimmer... If we ended up with a big guy at 3, then Jimmer is a reasonable pick at 12. I think Knight has the potential to be a pretty special player in the NBA. Lets hope the Jazz can pick him up at 3.

  • Jazz Source Alpine, UT
    June 16, 2011 1:46 p.m.

    O'Conner likes this guy. He sure seems alot more willing to talk about this guy than he is Jimmer. Hmmm.

    If they pick him then there is exactly zero chance they pick Jimmer. This guy is 6'3" too.

  • Wayne Rout El Paso, TX
    June 16, 2011 1:52 p.m.

    I agree...this guy is great. Everyone is great. We certainly can't spend a draft pick on Jimmer because we might offend some Utes and Democrats. Let's set the table so that we have a valid reason for passing on one of the best players to ever come out of a Utah university. Frankly, I hope, as does the Jazz, that Jimmer has been selected before that number 12 pick comes around.

  • Veracity Morgan, UT
    June 16, 2011 1:52 p.m.

    Sorry 1984 for life

    Knight is definately NOT the pick.

  • Jazz-Nation Lehi, UT
    June 16, 2011 1:55 p.m.

    No matter what, our back court is going to be better next year, and that should be enough to put us back in the playoffs.

  • Anonigma Murray, UT
    June 16, 2011 1:57 p.m.

    I remember reading somewhere that the Kentucky coach (Knight's coach..and I think Kanter's too) said that he himself would choose Kanter over Knight.....he even went on to say that Kanter should be #1.

  • JazzRule Bountiful, UT
    June 16, 2011 2:07 p.m.

    Pick Knight at #3 and Singleton or Burks at #12 please.

  • Ernesto de Bajo Albuquerque, NM
    June 16, 2011 2:18 p.m.

    Let's hope that Kevin O'Connor and the Jazz brain trust read all of the message boards. They won't be able to make a good decision on the draft picks without reading all of the good advice sprinkled around the Deseret News and other internet sites.

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    June 16, 2011 2:23 p.m.

    I would like to see the Jazz draft Jimmer.

    However, Knight (or Irving by some quirk of fate) is the best pick for the Jazz at 3. He can play along side of Harris or the Jazz can trade Harris for an SF or save 8-9 Mill which they will need after paying 5 Mill in lux tax.

    Top 10 PG picks are twice more likely to be successful than top 10 big picks. Knight is a safe pick. He is very young. His left hand will improve. He will add weight over the next 3 years. He is very smart.

    Give him 3 more years of experience and then compare him to Jimmer.

    The Jazz should be able to get Singleton, Jimmer, or maybe a Euro at 12. Hamilton will also be there as well as Brooks.

    The Jazz need outside shooting and perimeter defense more than anything else. Knight does both. Singleton and Brooks do also.

    However, if the Jazz can play Knight and Harris together they can also play Knight and Jimmer together. Drafting Knight at 3 does not preclude Jimmer in spite of KOCs pre draft posturing.

    Knight is the logical choice at 3.

  • Mildred in Fillmore Salt Lake City, UT
    June 16, 2011 2:24 p.m.

    Knight at 3 would be a good pick. You have to take a highly regarded player who plays a position(PG) where you have a long term need. Especially when that player plays at a University where the last 2 players at his university who played that position are absolute studs (Tyreke Evans and John Wall).

  • Allthingsjazz SLC, ut
    June 16, 2011 2:43 p.m.

    I would be shocked if Knight isn't the pick. Unless there is a shakeup in the top 2 this probably makes the most sense. KO likes height and length at each position. Knight fits that bill more than the Jimmer and Walker. Knight 6 ft 3 at the point with a 6 7 wing span, Hayward 6 8 at the two guard spot and Favors 6 10 with a huge wingspan at the PF and you can see a pattern here. Smart intelligent hard working athletes.....The question here is how can we duplicate that pattern at 12.....and no it's not Jimmer.

  • Dr Truth SLC, ut
    June 16, 2011 2:52 p.m.

    Knight is clutch.....and his 3/4 court time was similar to Westbrook. Conspiracy theories, however, make you think why no word after the Kanter workout and then all the pub about Knight? The Jazz usually play it close to the vest on who they really want......

  • Veracity Morgan, UT
    June 16, 2011 3:05 p.m.

    3rd. pick...12th. pick...O'Conner will screw it up...take it to the Bank

  • Jesse Tooele, UT
    June 16, 2011 3:23 p.m.

    It's hard to dislike Knight after hearing him interview. I still don't know if I like him at #3 though. Unless Williams falls, I don't know who really makes sense at the #3 spot.

    Kanter: So much unknown (knees & experience) but has a great NBA body.

    Knight: Very thin for the NBA but looks like he has a very high ceiling. Is he better than Mike Conley? (Thats the best comparison I can think of for him)

    Valanciunas: Does he have an NBA body? How long before he comes over?

    Vesely: Great athlete but can he learn to shoot?

    Kemba & Jimmer: Both proven on the college level but not #3 worthy in my opinion.

    Unless the Jazz are sold on Knight or Kanter, I think a trade back would net more value. A trade back to #6 or later could potentially net you Jimmer and an NBA player, then Draft Singleton at #12 or whoever you like at that spot. I don't think there is a huge difference in talent available at #3 back to #15. With 7 players under contract and no real star at #3, what is wrong with adding more players.

  • PalmG Glen Allen, VA
    June 16, 2011 3:25 p.m.

    our 3rd pick and Bell to Minny for the #2 pick. We desperately need williams more than knight, plus minny can get kanter, who they need, plus some veteran leadership, which they also really want

  • Calgary Calgary, AB
    June 16, 2011 3:31 p.m.

    I thought we have pretty decent PG in Haris... why we would need Knight? I hope because nobody mentions Valanciunas to Jazz ( same like nobody was talking about Hayward last year) that O'Connor will surprise us again and gets Jonas at 3. In 3 years him and Favors would be best frontline in the West.

  • Utiesrsocute Murray, UT
    June 16, 2011 4:09 p.m.

    just get Jimmer by all means necessary!

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    June 16, 2011 4:12 p.m.

    Jesse It is nice that we mostly agree.

    Valanciunas is maybe the best Euro but he is not NBA ready. His low post game is very weak. He simply does not weigh enough to not get moved out of position.

    Vesley is just as limited but in other ways.

    Kanter has size and athleticism but his wing span is not great. He is similar to Love.

    Williams is not a SF.

    Harris is a top 10 PG but his style fits another team. The Jazz need a distributor and a shooter and those are not Harris strengths.

    Knight is not the perfect PG for the Jazz but he is close. Playing him with Hayward creates a great offensive/defensive front court. It solves the shooting/perimeter defense problems.

    If you add top talent then other players lose playing time, get traded (picks, other players or saving money).

    That is why you take BPA. It makes the entire team stronger in the long run. That implies that Harris is traded eventually (sooner?) for the ideal SF.

    Adding the ideal SF and PG with Millsap as 6th man and a stronger bench makes the Jazz contenders by 2013.

  • Jazz-Nation Lehi, UT
    June 16, 2011 4:16 p.m.

    I will be happy as long as we don't draft any Euro players!

  • LAJazzFan Los Angeles, CA
    June 16, 2011 4:19 p.m.

    I am really souring on Kanter. Compare- Koufos is 7'1" and 265 lbs, his stats for the U18 championship in Europe in 2007 was 27pts, 13 rebounds and 3.5 blocks. In 2009 Kanter (6'11" 260lbs) averaged 18 pts, 16rebounds and 2 blocks in the U18 European championships. Koufos had a decent year in Ohio St. to compare, while Kanter has none. I am beginning to think that Kanter could be a bust.

    But, there appear to be teams that like him- he has a 2nd workout scheduled with the Cavs. If the Jazz want Knight, then the Jazz should trade the rights to the #3 pick to the Cavs for their #4 (get Knight) and a player, such as Erden (7 foot Center from Turkey). The cost savings from the trade would mean that Erden would only cost them about $375k. I can't imagine he is worse than the 3rd string centers the Jazz have had over the years.

    Unless Okur retires due to medical (he is supposed to be in Utah mid-June and I wonder if that will be a reason why), the Jazz have a large payroll with many slots to fill still.

  • Moderate Salt Lake City, UT
    June 16, 2011 4:29 p.m.

    It was smart of Knight to work out solo today. The Jimmer workout was a circus. Local media was all over Jimmer like little girls at a Justin Bieber concert. Disrespectful to Kemba Walker.

    Today was a chance for the Jazz organization to get back to evaluating real basketball.

  • AFCoug Colorado Springs, CO
    June 16, 2011 4:32 p.m.

    Draft is a crap shoot at best and this year it is even more so. Even the top 2 picks would only be late lottery in many drafts. What makes Williams a 6'8'' PF so great? Jazz already have that in Milsap. Irving played what, 11 games at the college level? Kanter is based on a single game 2 year ago and an NBA ready body but has bad knees. Smells like Greg Oden to me.

    Only 2 proven players and the ones who were willing to mix it up were Jimmer and Walker. Knight put up good numbers and has the right size but you gotta question his competativness when he refuses to practice against any other PG let alone the top PGs. He says he wants to play against Irving but everyone knows that will not happen.

    Given that it is all a bit of luck why not take Jimmer at 3? Maybe he produces, maybe not. But you risk that with every player in every draft.

    By the way why do several sights predict the Jazz draft a big and PG. SG is the true need in Utah. After that a defensive wing player.

  • President Joker Washington, DC
    June 16, 2011 4:54 p.m.

    Knight just jimmered all of you cougarfans. He wants to go up against a real point guard like irving and not some overrated 1 year point guard like Jimmer. Comparing Jimmer with Knight is like comparing Eddie House with Derrick Rose.

  • BluCoug Provo, UT
    June 16, 2011 5:01 p.m.

    @ Moderate

    Wow your bitterness just showed in that comment!

  • President Joker Washington, DC
    June 16, 2011 5:02 p.m.

    Jimmer at 3 just for the purpose of selling tickets is something a team like the Clippers would do and that's why they see the playoffs only once in a blue moon.

  • williary Kearns, UT
    June 16, 2011 5:08 p.m.

    This kid will be the 3rd pick. Unless something crazy happens and either Irving or Williams falls to 3.

    He's a smart player, decent shooter, has good size, can defend, and has a ton of upside to get better.

    No brainer, you take him, and look for a SG at #12.

  • yarrlydarb Ogden, UT
    June 16, 2011 5:34 p.m.

    Tyrone says, "He showed himself very well, he did a really good job. I mean, it was one-on-zero, but (he was able) to show his talent level. ... His basketball IQ seemed to be high."

    Yes, Coach T., but why does he avoid working out with two players so highly regarded as Jimmer and Kemba?

    Could it be that he knows he does better one-on-zero than showing off his talent under the pressure of competitors and the press?

    How do you measure the "heart" of a player who doesn't have to compete?

    Other than a select few exceptions, the Jazz management has not shown the fans much with their picks over the years.

    Best bet? This will fail to be an exceptional year for Greg, Larry and Tyrone once more.

  • Jesse Tooele, UT
    June 16, 2011 5:43 p.m.

    Shooting Guard is not the need for this team in my opinion. Hayward is a 2 and he showed great progress towards the end of the year. He won't be dominating like he was to Kobe in that win, but he showed his true potential. SF is still the biggest need in my opinion. I still think Williams can play the 3, so does he, that's why I hope for him. I think that's a long shot however, so I like trading down for possibly Jimmer and filling the 3 spot with Singleton, who appears to be a true defensive stopper.

  • Dr Truth SLC, ut
    June 16, 2011 5:59 p.m.

    How can you question heart, when your agent tells you not to workout against those who will be or projected to be taken behind you? I have no questions about Knight's work ethic or heart, I think it's more about the ability to play the point. If he has the ability, then he's probably not a risky pick. The Jazz need to continue to pick Gym rats with talent which = success. If you can't get the most talented team, then you need to outwork those teams that are more talented. KO should be better at drafting post Sloan. I wish you'd here what kind of system Corbin is going to implement.......maybe then the draft picks might make more sense??

  • bballjunkie Cedar Hills, UT
    June 16, 2011 6:32 p.m.

    If Knoght is the pick get ready KC for everyone to call for your head. He will be a bigger risk for a bust than these so called experts are talking about.

  • LKA Tremonton, UT
    June 16, 2011 6:46 p.m.

    D- Will did not work out against anyone either. If you watched the NCAA championship fame you saw Knight against Walker for four quarters of real basketball. Irving worked out for the Cavs only. I still think the Cavs will take Williams first. Four the # 4 pick they will still have three point guards to pick from all with pretty equal ability. If the Jazz have Irving, Kanter, Knight, and Williams to pick from it will be a tough choice.

  • stonewall Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 16, 2011 7:03 p.m.

    Knight is by far the safest pick at #3. Probably the safest pick in the draft overall. I say that simply because Irving has foot problems, which may be nothing, but it's a slight risk. And he has less to be evaluated on. Then Williams may not have the ball skills to play 3 and may be undersized to be a great 4. I don't think either is true, and I'd take either over Knight, but I am saying there's risk involved. Kanter didn't play last year so who knows how he'll turn out. Kemba is undersized and a spotty shooter, Vesely can't shoot, etc. Knight has no major weaknesses. He improved all year, is fast, can shoot, defend, and has a lot of room to grow. He may not have the ceiling of Irving or Williams but he's pretty sure-fire to be a good PG. And honestly I'm not convinced that he can't end up better than Irving. Kanter crowds the front-court too much and no one else is worth the 3rd pick, so I say take him, even if it means no Jimmer, which is slightly disappointing

  • Uncle Rico Sandy, UT
    June 16, 2011 7:28 p.m.

    safe is for wimps

  • peter Alpine, UT
    June 16, 2011 8:05 p.m.

    I wonder how all you expert posters would look at an unknown John Stockton if he were to come out today for the draft? Too small for the nba...small town school...unproven talent...not fast enough. Don't forget the most important element in any player--HEART, a desire to play and compete! Initially,nobody saw that element in John.

  • G-Swenz Providence, UT
    June 16, 2011 8:31 p.m.

    @peter

    If you are referring to Jimmer, I can recall John Stockton having the ability to pass the ball.

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    June 16, 2011 9:10 p.m.

    To Bugoff: Who or what is BPA? Please respond, as I don't know who or what it is that implies Harris is traded for the ideal SF.

  • T-spoon West Jordan, UT
    June 16, 2011 9:45 p.m.

    @panamadesnews:

    BPA = Best Player Available

  • Jesse Tooele, UT
    June 16, 2011 9:52 p.m.

    Best player available.

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    June 16, 2011 10:11 p.m.

    My biggest concern right now is that KOC/Corbin are just getting the Best Players Available and then will sit down and try to figure out how to fit them into a system. BUT it won't really be a system it will be a mess.

    Sloan quit right after a discussion with KOC over a trade. Replacing Boozer with AJ really messed up his system. He tried to make AJ fit his system. It did not work. Partly because he lost Korver and Mathews to financial concerns.

    At that point he could not make his system work as the paint was packed.

    You have to have the capability at each position to run a variation of the flex. Sloan no longer had enough of the right players.

    That is how he made the playoffs for years. He would get a player off of another team (or out of the dump) who fit the specific demands of each position given his system and then he worked his system.

    The Jazz NO LONGER have a system. AND they no longer have the right players to run a system.

    Decide on the system first. Get the right players for it.

  • In My Humble Opinion South Jordan, UT
    June 16, 2011 10:28 p.m.

    Dude has horrible shooting form. How do you get that far in your career, with that high a profile, without getting that corrected?

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    June 16, 2011 10:31 p.m.

    I would love to see the Jazz get Jimmer, his game would open things up for the other players and I think he can be a pass first point. That being said, Knight will probably be the pick and so we will need to make the best of it. At 12, I would go with BB or Singlton if Knight is the pick at 3. Singleton would give us size, athleticism, versatility and defense at the 3 spot and we need that.
    I hate the thoughts of having a number 3 pick and not being able to get a big man. We really don't have a true center, Al is a 6'10 PF, and Favors is the same, Milsap is 6'8 at best , that says we are small in the front court. They are talented but undersized and we need to get bigger and longer. Jonas V or Kanter would help in that case and I sure hope we take a big at 3.

  • byronbca Salt Lake City, UT
    June 17, 2011 12:26 a.m.

    Fact, Knight was much better as a freshman than Jimmer or Kemba were as freshmen. Fact, both Jimmer and Kemba were better as upper class men last year than Knight. Fact just like Jimmer and Kemba, Knight is a hard working, high class person who excelled in the classroom.

    My translation of these facts is that both Kemba and Jimmer have better rookie seasons than Knight, but Knight ends up having the better career because he has a higher ceiling and an equal work ethic.

    I don't know if Knight is the best pick at 3, but he's probably the safest, and he fills a large need. The Jazz need a backup point guard who can also play a little bit at 2. But any of the top 4 PGs in this draft could probably get at least 14 min a night at PG and another 10 at SG.

    Good luck KOC, in this draft you'll probably need it.

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    June 17, 2011 12:59 a.m.

    Multiple sources say both Harris and Millsap are being shopped by the Jazz. KOC is serious about rebuilding and getting the right players to fit a system that is not entirely clear to me yet.

    Does anyone know how the AK salary terms are coming? If Harris and/or Millsap are moved that reduces salary a lot and AK can be signed.

    It may also mean that a low hard cap is a possibility. But more than likely KOC is getting longer and more athletic. They will have to be traded for non guaranteed contracts (and picks) to save any salary.

    Williams/Kanter would replace Millsap. Williams is a better candidate I suspect in the eyes of the Jazz. He could play both SF and PF to a degree. Kantor should be able to play C/PF and he can shoot outside.

    Who knows what the Jazz will do at PG but Jimmer is likely if the Jazz go big at 3. They also could hope Biyombo drops to 12 and go with Knight at 3. I do not see Biyombo playing PF next year behind Favors.

  • Kankles Miami, Florida
    June 17, 2011 1:14 a.m.

    Quote from Kevin O'Connor " What you determine is, is he willing to try and make everyone on the team better, rather than make himself better and if youve got enough quickness and youve got enough athleticism and you can handle the ball well enough, then you can be a point guard."

    Who was he talking about - Brandon Knight.

    Done deal.

  • tomo keystone heights, fl.
    June 17, 2011 6:22 a.m.

    I agree w/ lajazzfan about trading picks w/ cavs for S. Erdan; you basically still get who you want w/ the #4 & get a capable backup/starter..There are concerns about his homesickness which could be ameliorated by fellow turk Okur..

    Also AJ is no taller than 6' 8.5"; should not have significant min at center..

  • yarrlydarb Ogden, UT
    June 17, 2011 6:29 a.m.

    @ T-spoon

    Who would ever have said that John Stockton was the BPA in the year he was drafted?

    And after his career, who would disagreed that he was indeed the BPA in the year he was drafted?

    If the Jazz really believed that DWil was the BPA when he was drafted, why would GM and KC suddenly decide he needed to be traded for Harris and the other two to better the team?

    If those making draft decisions were to use their supposed ability to choose BPAs in Las Vegas, they'd be dead broke.

  • JBQ Saint Louis, MO
    June 17, 2011 7:16 a.m.

    Early warning about a player from St. Louis who was this year's Gatorade Player of the Year. Bradley Beal is going to U of Florida and is already projected to be "one and done" and then into the NBA as a top five pick. He is also a point guard and six foot three and about two hundred. He went to the same high school as David Lee of the Warriors, Chaminade Prep. The Jazz should be trying to figure out how to draft Beal for next year. It would not be a bad idea to trade for David Lee as well. Enes Kanter should be the pick. He is also from Kentucky and had to sit out due to payment issues in Turkey. He was still coached in practice by the Kentucky staff.

  • Wombat1247 Mount Beauty, VIC
    June 17, 2011 7:34 a.m.

    I like do like Knight at 3, as I think Kanter & Jonas are too much of a project. Happy also to Jimmer at 12, resign Watson, Trade Bell, Harris & CJ (puck up option first). Trade Milsap or AJ if the deal suits as well.
    We do need to clear the decks and start to rebuild with, Knight, Jimmer, Hayward, Favors, Evans, Watson, AJ, Milsap & resign Fes cheap 1 year ( good back up big body & last chance prove himself - if he can) and with other they get back from trades, we could get some decent back for Harris, Bell & CJ

  • President Joker Washington, DC
    June 17, 2011 8:16 a.m.

    Remember, Knight is Only 18 and Jimmer is 21.

  • HugMe Logan, UT
    June 17, 2011 8:30 a.m.

    I don't think the Jazz will be picking Knight because he is the safest pick. I think they will pick him because he will be a very good player. That is, if they stay at three. If they keep there two picks at 3 and 12, I am hoping for Knight and Singleton.

    This is going to be such an interesting draft. It is not even certain who will be going number 1. With a lockout liking coming, I think there will be lots of trades happening. I could see the Jazz trading down to either the Wizards or the Kings and picking up Jimmer, if they can get a quality veteran.

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    June 17, 2011 8:49 a.m.

    Hoopsworld is reporting that Jimmer has a guarantee from the Jazz.

    I personally do not believe it as there is no advantage in doing so by the Jazz. It would also tip (and tie) KOCs hand in the 3rd pick. He is waiting to see what his options are AFTER teams start trading and also what offers he gets on draft night (as well he should).

    They are also reporting that Kanter is doing a 2nd workout with CLE as he did not do that well in the 1st. Some are questioning Kanter as a top 3 pick and are calling him ordinary and not really a top 10 under normal circumstances.

    All of the Euros bother me. Their flaws are clear and large enough that the NBA can exploit them.

    Kanter/Knight/Irving are blanker slates and the weaknesses are less obvious or appear to be fixable. That is why they are rated higher. GMs tend to choose uncertainty over known risks if the known risks are substantial.

    The safest picks are college players/Euros with lots of film and fixable flaws.

    This draft is weak. The Jazz need more picks for next year.

  • carver Enterprise, UT
    June 17, 2011 9:43 a.m.

    It does'nt matter who the Jazz pick. The Jazz will always be in the middle of the pack. Why? Two reasons. Administration and the state of Utah!

  • Observation-ist Ogden, UT
    June 17, 2011 10:30 a.m.

    Brandon has been drinking to much SEC Koolaid. The SEC is not the best conference in college basketball. Brandon is riding the coat-tails of Tyreke Evans, Derrick Rose, and John Wall. If he truly belongs in that company, he'll be a find. If not ... (is this permissible, DMN staff?)

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    June 17, 2011 10:58 a.m.

    I don't really see KOC and staff showing their hand on anything regarding the draft but I think Jimmer did impress them enough that they would like to take him at 12, the problem is he probably won't be there at 12. Is there a chance that the Jazz would take Knight and Jimmer? I don't think so but stranger things have happened and KOC could say BPA and they take him. Like I said , I don't see it happening. To me it would be easy to say if your there at 12 we will pick you but that isn't that much of a promise since it's not likely he will be there.
    This team has too many needs to use both picks on points guards, we need centers and especially a 3.
    Like I've said, I hope we take a big at 3, Kanter or Jonas V. , at 12, Jimmer if available , Singleton (big area of need), or BB.

  • LAJazzFan Los Angeles, CA
    June 17, 2011 11:04 a.m.

    If the Jazz are shopping Harris, and if the Jazz is set on drafting Knight, I would package Bell and the #3 pick for the Cav's Ramon Sessions, their Turk Center, and the #4 pick.

    If you look at the +/- numbers after the DWill trade, Bell is a big negative when in the lineup (no surprise), and the Harris and Bell combo is the biggest negative.

    Interestingly, AJ as a center is way more positive than as a PF, and the AJ and Favors combo were the most positive compared to any other frontcourt combo. I suspect that a big man with a defensive presence is what AJ needs. I worry, though, if Favors can develop an offensive game while in with AJ.

    Sap puts up great numbers and has a good work ethic. If the rumors are true that he is being shopped, I would hate to see him go as I think he could be an impact 6th man, and the Jazz would have to get a big man in return as Memo is a huge question this year.

  • Jonathan Eddy Payson, UT
    June 17, 2011 11:11 a.m.

    Just imagine what would happen if Fredette turned out to be a legendary scorer like a Larry Bird or even a legendary point guard and court captain like John Stockton. The entire state of Utah would forever loathe Kevin O'Connor and would blame him for never bringing the Jazz a championship.

    This draft may determine this general manager's identity as either a genius or a laughingstock. Good luck Mr. O'Connor. I wouldn't want to be in your shoes.

  • Winglish Lehi, UT
    June 17, 2011 11:21 a.m.

    "If it were my decision, Enes is who I would pick at No. 1. Heres why: he can truly be a dominating kind of player; he can be a Karl Malone-type big man. As the league gets smaller (size-wise) his ability to dominate his position will grow. Hes got a position and a true size. If he doesnt go No. 1 he will go shortly thereafter and the teams that passed on him will look back and wince at that decision."

    Kentucky Coach John Calipari
    06/03/11, on his own blog

  • Scoreboard Draper, UT
    June 17, 2011 11:53 a.m.

    @Jazz Source
    "If they pick him then there is exactly zero chance they pick Jimmer. This guy is 6'3" too."

    Duh, that's pretty academic. As for his being 6'3" that's only an inch taller than Jimmer, really no difference at all. But he's only 177 lbs with narrow shoulders. He'll have a difficult time trying to defend bigger and stronger guards and getting his shot off in traffic. He looks like he'd be the next Devin Harris to me.

    I'm really hoping that the T-Wolves don't pick Derrick Williams and instead pick for a need. I'd love to see Williams suit up as the starting SF next season. The Jazz have a log jam at PF and not enough outside shooting.

  • showmeyatd's Pleasant View, Utah
    June 17, 2011 12:03 p.m.

    Could Knight put up over 40 points on the road in college? I am still a huge Knight fan but I'm praying that Derrick Williams falls to us. Jimmer will be gone to Sacramento before we pick. The best scenario would have been Willams and Jimmer at 12.

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    June 17, 2011 1:31 p.m.

    Most of the picks in this draft have some risk factors associated with them, Kanter , we don't have alot of film on him and so there is alot of unknowns because of that but his skill set is very good.
    Knight has risk factors too, will he gain weight, will he become a true point guard, and how long will that take?
    Because we don't have much film on Kanter he may be a higher risk, but his upside may be worth it, considering his size and skill set.
    Knight may be the safer pick.
    If we pick Knight , I sure hope we can get BB, he would be a big with upside and potential and a defender/rebounder we need.

  • Jazz Source Alpine, UT
    June 17, 2011 1:43 p.m.

    re: scoreboard

    You make fun of me for stating the obvious that the Jazz won't be picking Jimmer if they take walker.

    Well, at least I was right.

    You thinking a rookie named Williams would be a starting SF next season speaks volumes about your basketball knowledge.

    That ain't happening so I don't know why you are even talking about it. "Duh" as you like to say.

  • Sokol Las Vegas, NM
    June 17, 2011 4:33 p.m.

    That was good stuff Bugoff. I am afraid the Jazz are really adrift. There was a power struggle and the worst GM in sports won over the great coach in sports. I think Jefferson is really not that highly respected in the league...If you watched the playoffs, the Mavericks and the Grizzlies..They had tough minded players who could penetrate, stop people, or shoot the three. We have none of that...I long for the days of Deshawn Stevenson. The players we are getting are very soft...I hope Favors will not watch any of those impressive Carlos Boozer defensive highlights.

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    June 17, 2011 7:40 p.m.

    Thanks Sokol. KOC has his own set of biases. However, he is capable of putting together a winner IF he does it right. Longer and more athletic is helpful but that is not an offensive philosophy.

    The biggest problem with BPA is the trading costs. If you replace Harris or Millsap or get too many PFs you have to trade them. The rest of the league knows you have to trade and you lose value in the transactions.

    BPA has it's own set of costs that its advocates ignor.

    Williams has to use both feet to jump. He can not jump off of one foot. That slows his shot up. He has very high bust potential because of that limitation.

    Kanter is a wild card. He is athletic but has a short max vert reach. He could be a Love or he could be average.

    At the moment I am leaning toward Valanciunas and Knight as safer picks.

    How does Valancuinas fit in with AJ/Favors? They are 3 very different post styles and skills sets.

    Both Knight and Jimmer can run the team. Both can shoot and distribute. Knight is better on D. Jimmer is better on screens.

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    June 17, 2011 9:02 p.m.

    Bug, you must have been listening to David Locke too much. How often do you shoot off of one leg or rebound off of one leg, I don't get the criticism Williams is getting for his preference to jump off of 2 legs. I played until I was almost 60, I coached, my boys played in college, a have watched and anylized the game and never have I found a coach or player that was taught or encouraged to be a one legged jumper. It doesn't even make sense. Jumping off of 2 legs give a player more balance, control, power, more ability to finish after contact etc. There are a few time when going off of one leg is prefered, like when your on a fast break or flying to the hole from 3 pt range but most of the SKILLS of basketball are done off of 2 legs, not one. I guarentee you Williams can go off of one leg when he needs to, he just prefers to go off of two legs because he has more control, power, and balance. One of the reasons Williams has such high efficiency isbecause he is atwo legged jumper.

  • T-spoon West Jordan, UT
    June 17, 2011 9:41 p.m.

    @yarrlydarb:

    You do realize I was just answering panamadesnews' question about what BPA stands for, right?

  • Winglish Lehi, UT
    June 18, 2011 12:13 a.m.

    "One of the reasons Williams has such high efficiency isbecause he is a two legged jumper."

    That's exactly correct. Williams squares himself to the basket. That's a fundamentally sound position when shooting, rebounding, or making a pass.