Typical national media double-standard. They'll caricature the GOP and
conservatives but not Democrats to say nothing of liberals.It's a cheap shot,
and they know it, but will never acknowledge it.
I'd expect more of a publication like Newsweek than a photoshopped image taken
from a satirical Broadway production. All this does is lessen Newsweek's
Hey Hal, "love it" precedes "leave it" in the phrase
"love it or leave it." Your implication is the poll was
constructed to be biased, but that's a nit that's not worth picking, and it's
more than a little paranoid.For those who take the time to actually read
the Newsweek piece, they will discover a balanced, thoughtful article. And while
it's true the cover promotes a stereotype of LDS missionaries and Mormons in
general, it's obviously cartoonish and in good fun. (Romney would do well to
kick up his heals a little more in real life. His image is a bit too stiff.)As Mormons we are happy to march into the public square to declare what we
stand for, but when others take exception with our views we act horrified and
offended.The fact that Hunstman and Romney choose to downplay their
membership in the LDS Church says more about them than it does about the Church
or its antagonists. It is one of the reasons I would have to think long and hard
before voting for either of them for president.
Learn to laugh at yourself. 'Book of Mormon Musical', May 2011 Monty Python's 'Spamalot', Feb 2004 Monty Python and the
Holy, Grail April 1975
Typical left-wing strategy; acknowledge reality and facts only when you are
absolutely forced to but do it in such a way as to make the facts and the person
(or people) behind them look foolish.All this just goes to show that
liberals are scared spitless of Mitt Romney.If they're not scared
then why do they go to such lengths to belittle him?
Dudes against the cover let it go. I thought it was funny and clever. Besides
that is the image most people associate with members of the LDS faith. Trust me
I know I served a mission in PA. Comeon guys let it go and laugh a little. No
need to be so uptight.
I understand I am an outsider and maybe dont know all the ins and outs of your
religion or culture but frankly I think the conservatives are making it worse
not better. My honest first thought when I looked at the cover was oh look they
are trying to make him look young and energetic looking, not hey look they are
trying to make him look like a freak. Those that I have talked to that are not
aware of your culture thought the same thing until the pundits all started
crying foul. I can see why you would be offended but I also see that by drawing
attention to those parts you are offended by it maybe making it worse.
I'm not losing any sleep over the cover, but I wonder: if a national magazine
took Joseph Lieberman's face and transposed it over the body of Tevya from
Fiddler on the Roof or put the long sideburn curls of a Chasidic Jew on his
image, would there be any concerns expressed? I think so. In fact, I'll bet
someone would lose their job over it. I think the problem isn't that we
are ashamed of the missionary program of the Church, the problem is that the
image seemed to be done with the intent to belittle or mock Romney and his
@Liberal TedIf you don't want to buy it and read it, then don't.
That'd be an open-market decision. You have your "fair and balanced"
news with people "flirting" with running for office as paid
correspondents, and partisan after partisan with "news" shows on all
day long. I'll get my news where I choose, you can get your where you choose.
Sounds pretty fair to me.
This cover is nothing compared to the gross and ignorant words that will come
out about Mitt and the LDS Church by Sarah Palin. I am really looking forward
to this because I know many fellow Mormons who love both. It is going to get
ugly, she doesn't hold back, even when confronted with the facts. She will take
Mormon Bashing to new heights.
Clearly if I were Romney or Huntsman I would not be amused. But I'm more
disturbed by the lack of sensitivity over the musical and how it makes us out to
be complete dolts and drags our theology and faith through the mud. I cannot
imagine New Yorkers (and the tourists) paying to poke fun at Jews in this way,
and then giving accolades to the play. I find the double standard painful and
appalling. To George in the Bronx (my near neighbor), what would you
think if the tables were turned? You've mentioned people not knowing the
difference out of ignorance (an oft used excuse). What if it were done to
another group that (eg. Blacks or Jews) where we're all more educated on
"what not to do"??
I think we should organize a dress up like a missionary day. Everyone can wear a
white shirt, a tie and their old missionary name tag and take to the streets.
George | 1:12 p.m. June 7, 2011 Bronx, NYConservatives don't the do
Newsweek, it is liberal and they are taking there shots as usual at republicans
and the LDS church.
@eastcoastcoug As I stated before I understand why people are offended and
I think they have every right to be my thought was simply I did not make the
connection until I saw this article it simply looked like they where trying to
make him look young and appealing. Being my neighbor you should know better then
anyone that all the groups you mentioned have and still at times take their
unfair lumps on stage and screen. I agree that does not make it right but it
does happen. Also I do not know the last time you where here but I can tell you
this play (which I have no interest in seeing) is so small fry that it is not
much if any bleb on the New York scene and I can tell you this small fry play
gets a lot more air time in Utah then New York. New Yorkers are curious and do
not always have accruate information (no thanks to big love)about the Mormon
religion for sure but are not nearly as hostile as you might think.
'Conservatives don't the do Newsweek, it is liberal and they are taking there
shots as usual at republicans and the LDS church.' - bigsoccer | 2:33 p.m. June
7, 2011 But it is acceptable to portray Obama as a Witch doctor,
nazi, socialist, Kenyan, Chimpanzee, Monkey, Muslim.... Think I'm
joking? Here are some examples: *'Trump on Obama's Birth
Certificate: 'Maybe It Says He's a Muslim' - Fox Nation - 03/30/11
*'GOP official apologizes for Obama chimp email' - By GILLIAN FLACCUS - AP -
04/19/11 'Calif. woman sends 'birther' message with photo of president's
face on chimpanzee's body' I'm not saying it's right. It is wrong to
poke fun at someone's expense. I DO also think it's funny that Newsweek saw the
connection to 'Book of Mormon' the musical and our Mormon canidates. As my
example of 'Spamalot' shows, poking fun at yourself is acceptable.
But the double standard when it comes to Obama, should be evident. There's no
'satire' in claiming Obama is 'Witch Doctor' when he was trying to pass
healthcare reform. Based, on Romney's healthcare reform for MA.
I remember when Newsweek had an article about the LDS Church. There was a
picture of Joseph F. Smith with the caption "Founder Smith." Just a
little homework prevents embarrassing errors.
I would be interested in a poll about what people in other parts of the country
think about the LDS church and their LDS neighbors. I have lived outside Utah
for many years and found that the only opposition was usually a few extremely
bigoted "pastors" who were trying to convince their congregation how
bad we were and a few of the "sheep" in those congregations. Funny
part was that when you get in a cordial religious conversation with one of the
"flock", not only did they usually not know what the LDS church
believed but they usually weren't sure what their church believed either. I got
a real kick out of one friend that agreed with several points of doctorine
taught by the LDS church. When I told her that these contradicted what her
church taught her reply was "are you sure" and "I don't agree
with that". Truth is that the majority of people in the US don't have much
of an opinion of the LDS church. That is why the Liberals push so hard against
LDS candidates. Anti-LDS feelings are strongest in Utah.
@independent I know you are joking but you know independent that would
actually not be a bad suggestion for those that live here or in the area. They
could all go down to time square or grand central and stage some kind of
tasteful public display (in the style of improve everywhere but with a tasteful
LDS spin) then take sometime talking to people that pass by that are interested
in learning some facts about the LDS church. I think if you avoided preaching
you would actually get some people interested as I say New Yorkers are curious
about your church, not to join but to make sense of all the contradictory
information because here you are still small enough in numbers that people do
not have regular contact with LDS people and do not get to know them and their
customs. This poorly chosen cover could actually be a good chance for LDS
people to educate others about their religion.
George in Bronx NY makes some great points IMO.I wasn't particularly
offended by the cover and I'm a "dyed-in-the-wool" conservative and
active member of the LDS Church. I agree with George...many times we
conservatives bring more negative attention upon ourselves by being so quick to
react to this kind of media.Just live by the tenets of our faith and the
example we set will bring the attention we want.
It is unfortunate that we often take life (and ourselves) too seriously. Don't
be offended and don't strike back. It does no good and makes us look bad. I
know that people often criticize others to make themselves feel better but I for
one don't believe that it works. Love them that despitefully use you and you
will feel better.
Wait a minute here, back up a bit, Mixed opinion on Mitt Romney Newsweek cover?.
No one has a opinion on Mitt Romney because no one (except the Mormon Church)
knows what he's all about, so how can anyone have a opinion on Mitt Romney?.
You tell me.The Anthony Weiner scandal shows that despite the wars
and the economy, we're all really still in 9th grade. It's the
anniversary of D-Day. Or, as Sarah Palin calls it, the day that Paul Revere
warned the Americans that the Danish were coming. Legal experts are
now investigating John Edwards for the money he spent to hide his mistress and
love child. The good news for Edwards is that he is now eligible to run for
governor of California. The White House says that the unemployment
rate is good news because it means more people are looking for jobs. More good
news like that, and everyone at the White House will be looking for jobs.
I'll have to admit that to see Mitt Romney in such an unusual pose (for him) is
a little strange, but I seriously don't think it's necessarily a bad thing.
Unfortunately, that Book of Mormon Musical was a huge hit, popular with many
people so the cover of Newsweek brings attention to Romney in a way as to say
that maybe Mormons are not so bad. I laughed when I saw the cover and even now,
when I look at it, I sort of chuckle. When I get the magazine, I will want to
read it, as will many other people, exactly for the same reason-it might be
satirical, but it's funny (sort of) and Romney is being a good sport about it.
I can understand why some are disappointed by the depiction of Romney on the
Newsweek cover. However, when I saw it, I couldn' help but think:
"Right On! MORMONS DO ROCK!"Mormons aren't a stuffy,
pious, mournful lot, but a vigorous, happy, joyful, energetic creation, with
plenty to jump up and shout about! As depicted, Mormons have a great
message, with messengers over the world, who feel just the way about their
message as the picture depicts them -- As does Mitt Romney feel about his
message: to the Nation and to the World!I say, this is a Win/Win
situation. Chalk one up for the Mormons, Chalk one up for Mitt!!!I
say, chalk another one up for the Mormons, the Missionaries, and for Mitt
@ George, You said, "As I stated before I understand why people are
offended and I think they have every right to be ..." Actually
any active member of the LDS church should be very familiar with a talk from
General Conference a couple of sessions ago which told us that we CHOOSE to take
offense and we need to start making that choice less often!!!! Members choosing
to take offense and being too quick to judge is imposing a whole lot of
unnecessary negative attention on the LDS church right now.
@clarkKent I am not LDS and was unaware of that speech but I can see
the wisdom in the advice.
Sorry George, I didn't mean to have my post to you come across as though I
thought you were LDS. I was mostly responding to many of the other posts who
chose to take offense. We (members of the church) have been counseled so many
times by our church authorities to stop judging, to stop taking offense, etc.
that it is clear that is a big issue among many members. Heck all you have to
do is read some of these boards and see it.
@the missing link: You could at least attribute your quote supposedly from
Sarah Palin to the comedian who wrote the joke. Otherwise its simple
@ Walt Nicholes | 8:40 p.m. June 7, 2011 Most of us know that SP is
not that clever.
I see it as the Jackson County syndrome. Mormons are taught from primary on
about how their forebears in Missouri were so bitterly persecuted, burned out of
their houses, tarred and feathered, and how Governor Boggs signed the
extermination order only because they belonged to the true church and those
horrible Missourians were wicked (OK, a little exaggeration there, but let's
face it, it was a volatile situation from the beginning - rough frontier people,
many from Tennessee and other slave-holding states seeing all these abolitionist
Yankees coming in large numbers, selling those already there that this was Zion
and it belongs to use now. On the frontier, if you perceived a
threat, you took matters into your own hands. Now, 172 after the
Mormons left Missouri for Illinois, when people take matters into their own
hands, it tends to be with less violence, at least in this country. However, I
find that far too many of my fellow saints still suffer from the Jackson County
syndrome and immediately become hyper-paranoid anytime anyone says anything
about the church that is not 100% glowingly positive. C'mon people, get over it.
It's just a picture!
The first thing I did when I saw the cover was smile and laugh. It's just very
silly. Romney is going to be the next president of the United States. And
this is what he will look like after he beats Obama, elated.
It's all show biz now, so why be surprised at the Newsweek cover?Could Lincoln have ever been elected today? I doubt it. Not only wasn't he
photogenic but he talked so slow. And whatever he said simply couldn't be
fitted into 140 characters or less.Whoever gets elected today, it
won't matter whether he's a Mormon in the end. As long as he gives a good
Regarding the "what-if" comments some people have made here--i.e.,
what if Newsweek had superimposed Lieberman's head on the body of a Hasidic Jew,
or the head of a black candidate on the body of a tribal African or Muslim?I think those comments are misguided. Newsweek wouldn't do those
things, but obviously felt it was okay to do that with a Mormon, for the simple
reason that Mormons, whether you like them or not, are archetypal Americans.
They're as American as Ozzie and Harriet, white bread, apple pie, Mormon
missionaries.So Newsweek's cover doesn't imply that Romney is really
some kind of exotic foreigner (and do we want a foreigner as our President?).
Rather, he's American from top to bottom--even if the two parts come from
different made-in-USA sources.
I don't know about the cover art...but , I do know it made me aware of how
little I know about Mormonism. I have already requested the book of Mormon so I
can remedy this. I was raised a Christian Scientist and have noticed how
politics effect religions...
Mitt should be proud of his beliefs or as he puts it, "the faith of his
fathers".....I think he should talk about all of the tenants of his