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  • Maverick West Jordan, UT
    June 1, 2011 6:50 p.m.

    Shameless!

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    June 1, 2011 7:07 p.m.

    I just can't understand why players aren't flocking to utah now that they are in the pac10? That is what wedgie said would happen but instead they are all baling out like rats from a sinking ship. It just doesn't make any sense. Don't they know that utah used to be good? Don't they know utah has a basketball legacy? Oh wait....ute "fans" tell us legacies are meaningless. No one remember's them. They must be right.

    LOL

  • foxkids2000 Tracy, CA
    June 1, 2011 7:10 p.m.

    The loophole allows it, but I'm sure he made the decision on his own w/o BYU actively recruiting him. One he stated his intention, it's a no brainer to go after him. Just following a trend of other key Ute basketball players this year to leave and pursue fresh opportunities. Utes should recover fine and it opens up for another player who will love the opportunity to play for the new coach and new conference foes.

  • scenic view Baltimore, MD
    June 1, 2011 7:12 p.m.

    Sorry, to disappoint you Maverick, but Josh Sharp decided to leave Utah and enroll at BYU on his own. He wasn't recruited by BYU, in fact, BYU wouldn't have even had a scholarship for him if James Anderson hadn't decided to forego his senior season and another kid who was offered a scholarship decided to play at BYU-Hawaii.

  • BlameItOnTheOfficials Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 1, 2011 7:15 p.m.

    I guess Josh doesn't realize that the utes will be in the final four every year now that they're in the Pac12!

  • 79Ute Orange County, CA
    June 1, 2011 7:15 p.m.

    It's not shameless. The coach that recruited him was fired, and the new coach has no relationship with him and is yet to prove himself to any of us Utah fans. Rose is a known commodity so it's not such a big surprise that Sharp would change his mind. There is no evidence that he was recruited by BYU, and no report that Sharp has been offered a scholarship yet. As a Utah fan I'm optimistic that the new coach will bring the U back to the kind of program we had with Gardner, Foster, Pimm, and Majerus, but it will take awhile to recover from tatters the program is in now.

  • ouisc Farmington, UT
    June 1, 2011 7:19 p.m.

    I must agree with Coach K....the recruiting that happens while a player is on a mission is pretty classless. Oh, yeah, so is having your father email the University that you're transfering. LOL. I would hate to root for a guy like this, anyways. But I'm sure someone is desperate enough to take this kid.

  • eagle Provo, UT
    June 1, 2011 7:22 p.m.

    Scholarships are one-year contracts. When you go a mission or join the military you are released from your scholarship. Whether BYU recruited him or not matters not. They (BYU nor Sharp) did anything wrong.

  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    June 1, 2011 7:32 p.m.

    I wish Josh well. If he doesn't want to be at the U, I don't want him to be there. I do think it's a bit chicken for the dad to notify coach K by email, but, what's done is done.

    Go Utes

    viva la Pac-12

  • CG Orem, UT
    June 1, 2011 7:33 p.m.

    ouisc

    Have a little whine with your sour grapes.

    BYU will be very happy to take this fine, upstanding, returned missionary who will now become a great addition to the stellar program Dave Rose is building at BYU.

    A Utah fan stated a couple of weeks ago that Utah's basketball program couldn't sink any lower. It appears that the Utes still have a ways to go before they hit rock bottom.

  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    June 1, 2011 7:34 p.m.

    I should say on the surface it seems a bit chicken for the dad to notify coach K by email, but maybe that was how they generally had communicated or something that we aren't privy to.

  • MichiganCoog Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 1, 2011 7:37 p.m.

    Whatever ouisc...

    He was an awesome get when he was intending to play for the Utes, and all of the sudden has become a dud for changing his mind to play for your big brother to the south.

    Really, it was just plain common sense on his part, go play for the far better program (hands down) to the train-wreck on the hill...pretty smart kid if you ask me...

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    June 1, 2011 7:42 p.m.

    In case U missed it, the Pac 12 just announced that Utah's Pac 12 debut at USC will be televised on...

    VERSUS!

  • BlueCoug Orem, UT
    June 1, 2011 7:52 p.m.

    Josh Sharp sounds like a great get for BYU.

    Welcome aboard Josh!

  • Chickenhunter Provo, Ut
    June 1, 2011 7:54 p.m.

    We cougars aren't classless! We aren't holier than thou. We aren't delusional and we aren't obsessed with Utah!

  • Arynen Midvale, UT
    June 1, 2011 7:55 p.m.

    ouisc, ...

    Lets not jump to conclusions here about how he communicated with the U and start calling the kid names. Having served a mission, I'm pretty sure he, as a missionary, only communicates with family and maybe a close friend or two back home. This is usually by letter, and only twice a year allowed by telephone. I'm willing to bet he mentioned in a letter home that he had changed his mind to play for BYU. Dad took the next step and informed the U of the change. On missions, you aren't too concentrated on calling up your university and talking about sports, and is probably not allowed. Leave the kid alone with the name calling and show some class yourself.

  • CdA Ute Mason, OH
    June 1, 2011 7:58 p.m.

    I'm not going to begrudge the kid for leaving whether he was recruited or contacted BYU on his own. But, shouldn't he be concentrating on doing the work at hand on his mission?

  • BYU DUDE Provo, UT
    June 1, 2011 8:03 p.m.

    Today Basketball soon it will be Football,

    And the Utes will cry wee, wee, wee, all the way home.

  • 79Ute Orange County, CA
    June 1, 2011 8:19 p.m.

    CdA Ute: One of the things a 19-year old learns on a mission is how to plan ahead (as the former dean of the Harvard Business School reported on the Charlie Rose show on PBS a few years ago). Planning ahead for school upon one's return doesn't imply lack of concentration for the work at hand. I wasn't a basketball player, but I made college plans for when I returned to the U and it was just a couple of letters exchanged with my parents to make sure I was set to start school when I got home. That's the kind of thing missionaries do on their preparation day along with doing laundry and playing basketball if a gym can be found.

  • Clear Thinker Draper, UT
    June 1, 2011 8:45 p.m.

    If there is anything classless here it is Krysko screaming foul play trying to play an ethics card, a rivalry card, and most importantly setting up yet another excuse as to why the team will not be able to compete. Just for a moment imagine signing a good faith commitment with an employer before you left out of town for a couple of weeks vacation. By the time you got back the management had been gutted, the guy who hired you was replaced by a total unknown, 90% of your peers had bolted for greener pastures, and the company appeared to be incapable of making money for the next decade. Finally, just down the street a culture of winning, player development, and stability was available. You are told you have no committments to the first company. Are you sure you would stay? Would you feel obligated to meet with the new boss face to face. If you said yes, you will never make a career change no matter teh circumstances.

  • There You Go Again Saint George, UT
    June 1, 2011 9:00 p.m.

    We all know how it works.

    BYU is the "Texas" of Mountain West Football.

    Whatever Texas wants, Texas gets.

    What ever BYU wants, it usually gets.

    BYU did not want the MWC.

    BYU wanted "Independence".

    BYU got what it wanted.

    It is pointless to try to prove that Sharp was or was not recruited. What's done is done.

    The real issue is that teams in the old WAC and the MWC learned to complain, but then quietly move on.

    All of this talk or "whisper campaign" about what BYU does or does not do has not been lost on what's left of the BIG 12.

    In terms of money, The BIG 12 has been reduced to Texas and the LITTLE 9.

    Will the "LITTLE 9" be willing to have Texas's alterego join the BIG 12 revenue party?

    Will Texas and the LITTLE 9 want to deal with the "missionary program"?

    We will see...

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    June 1, 2011 9:13 p.m.

    Josh no doubt knows that BYU went independent. It is possible that some of the members or converts in his mission area are excited about every BYU game being broadcast on either ESPN or BYUTV. He is feeling the same excitement so decided he would transfer to BYU. I'm 100% certain that BYU did not recruit him. But when Dad expressed interest, BYU accepted and offerred him a scholarship they had available. Good luck, Utah, in your recruiting this year in BB. Hope you do well in both FB and BB(from a Utah and BYU alum).

  • Y4LYFE Lubbock, TX
    June 1, 2011 9:20 p.m.

    Well utah football is in great shape for their first year in the south division, so they can hang their hats on football. What's one more transfer in a bad program right?

  • UU32 Bountiful, UT
    June 1, 2011 9:21 p.m.

    As a Ute fan I am completely OK with this. If a kid decides to go elsewhere they ought to. If the program is not what they want it to be, they should be allowed to pursue it within the rules. It makes me a little weary that Coach K will be turned off to LDS kids and lose the battle on the homefront, but that may have been inevitable anyway. Congrats to BYU for picking up a good talent. Hopefully Krystko has one of those international players he takled about in the pipeline looking to come over.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    June 1, 2011 9:43 p.m.

    @UU32
    I completely agree with you. If BYU had a player that wanted to transfer, and transferred within the rules, he is free to go. I especially agree when the coach who recruited the player is gone. Players commit to universities because of coaches, not because of conferences.

    Although I'm having a hard time seeing where Sharp will fit in. He seems like a classic 3 spot player. This year we have Abouo and Rogers at the 3. Next year we'll have Haws and Rogers. The next two years we'll have Haws and K. Collinsworth unless Collinsworth moves to the 2 or PG. Or maybe be can gain some bulk and play the 4?

    Regardless, he seems like a great kid who will help solidify our program. Welcome aboard Josh.

  • Clear Thinker Draper, UT
    June 1, 2011 9:43 p.m.

    Let's just say you had a contingent job offer with company A and you took a vacation before starting work. When you came back, the guy who hired you had been canned, the entire management was gone, 90% of your peers had bolted, and the company was now losing money in a major way with a very limited future, but promises for a better day soon to come. Just down the street was a company in the same business with employee development, strong profits, and stable management. You have zero committment to company A because of errors in paper work. This is an easy decision. Finally, it is poor taste for Krysko to attack the integrity of Company B, after all you are looking at an entirely different company than the one that initially recruited you.

  • just-a-fan Bountiful, UT
    June 1, 2011 9:57 p.m.

    There is only one Coach K and he doesn't coach the U. By the way, The U symbol with your hands was a nice grab from Miami. Enjoy the PAC 12. This BYU fans has no interest in what the Utes doexcept when it involves games with the Cougars. See you in September oh mighty Utah.

  • Cougar_Independence OMAHA, NE
    June 1, 2011 10:20 p.m.

    Josh probably learned that he would be on Versus if he played at Utah, or on ESPN if he played at BYU.

    Clearly we know which choice he made! BYU and ESPN are a winning combination!

    Go Cougars!

  • satch Highland, UT
    June 1, 2011 10:32 p.m.

    I loved seeing this kid in high school and thought he was way underrated then. He's scrappy, knows how to pick up the garbage, and has a work ethic on the court that is outstanding.

    He'll thrive in the BYU program. Can't wait to see him playing again.

  • alternate Salt Lake City, UT
    June 1, 2011 10:44 p.m.

    At this point we don't really know if he will get a scholarship from BYU. I think what we have heard so far is speculation. He may have trouble getting playing time, especially during his first two years. Having already used his redshirt year, he may be a junior before he gets significant playing time.

    I too feel bad that the Utah coach made such a big deal out of this. Frankly the loss of JJ to UNLV or SDS is far bigger. Coach K2 said very little about that.

    Does anyone know where Tyrell Corbin is headed? I actually thought the Utes had a good shot at getting him.

  • Teddy Bear Las Vegas, NV
    June 1, 2011 10:53 p.m.

    Remember that Ben Olsen made the same decision when he left for UCLA after his mission. Similar situations too with a coaching change.

  • whoisjohngalt Holladay, UT
    June 1, 2011 11:08 p.m.

    Somebody call the wambulance. I already dislike Krystkowiak. What if Josh made the decision BY HIMSELF!!?!???! He is allowed to make decisions for himself that will affect his career.

  • SeattleUhasabballteam? Seattle, WA
    June 1, 2011 11:09 p.m.

    Cougar Independence:

    Great point. He probably also wanted to go to a team that can actually beat WCC teams...

  • TrueBlue Orem, UT
    June 1, 2011 11:13 p.m.

    alternate

    Nice spin, but consider this:

    "He's one of the best guys we recruited in the four years I was there. We had him penciled in as starter coming back...I'm saying this humbly, but he was poorly evaluated out of HS. I thought he was a high-major guy like J.J. (O'Brien)."
    --Jim Boylen

    "once it was determined there would be an opening in Provo, one thing led to another, and the decision to transfer was solidified."
    --Yahoo! Sports writer Jeff Eisenberg

    In other words, Josh Sharp was expected to be a starter for Utah next season and Josh didn't make the decision to transfer to BYU until his family had confirmed that there was an opening, that is, an available scholarship.

    Whether as a starter or a bench player, Josh will be playing for BYU next season.

  • SeattleUhasabballteam? Seattle, WA
    June 2, 2011 12:16 a.m.

    Funny how Coach Krysto claims to wish Josh well, but then says that recruiting a player on his mission fosters ill will and implicates the BYU in wrong doing. This statement was preceeded by him telling his team to look for the best options and offers upon his arrival. SEVEN other players left on their own, but Sharp leaves on his own and now it's a big deal?

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    June 2, 2011 12:17 a.m.

    Time to gloat... about BYU basketball... again! Love it! Welcome to BYU Josh. You're going to love it.

  • Cougar Cindy Salt Lake City, UT
    June 2, 2011 12:51 a.m.

    Sounds like Coach K owes Dave Rose an apology. I understand leaping to conclusions and saying something he shouldn't in the moment of disappointment. But when the facts are revealed, how about manning-up and acknowledging the error?

    Considering Utah's recent history and the rebuilding ahead, which will take years, I can understand the player's decision.

    Someone else will relish the opportunity to make a name for himself in restoring the Runnin' Utes to basketball greatness.

  • In Stitches Provo, Utah
    June 2, 2011 1:03 a.m.

    What's up with Coach K whining about this kid being able to leave (because of the University's mess up -- not the kid's) and trying to play the guilt card for any other program this kid might be interested in? Why is he trying to claim the higher moral ground when there isn't any?

    It's like he's TRYING to alienate the LDS community.

    It sure will be interesting to see what this guy does and says next.

  • 1Infidel APO, AE
    June 2, 2011 3:50 a.m.

    Basically, a program like BYU sells itself. A respected coach, with a new contract, and a record of success breeds further success. I doubt too that BYU contacted him directly. Feelers were probably relayed by his father, and voila, in the short time since Utah announced his "free agency" he jumped at a new lease on opportunity. Sounds like an athlete wanting to make the most of his potential.

  • Wookie Omaha, NE
    June 2, 2011 6:16 a.m.

    What is sad about stories like this is that the for every Davies feel good story about the Y doing the right thing there are dozens of Sharp stories, wherein it lies double standards and hypocrisy. If sports is a tool of proselyting, then taking one step forward and two steps back seems pointless. If I am wrong try living outside of the state and having co-workers come and tell you about how cool it was that the Y followed their code with Davies but then these same co-workers asking about Hall's tirade or Heaps opting to not do as his leaders have asked and serve a mission. Two at fault here: Sharp not upholding his commitment and BYU interfering with a young man on a mission. Shameless and embarrassing...

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    June 2, 2011 7:02 a.m.

    This is going to be fun.

    It's Wayne Howard Time all over again.

    BYU this and BYU that.....blah blah blah. It's BYU's fault.

    Is it really inconceivable that an LDS athlete, after having served 2 years as a missionary would want to play for the Church school?

    Is it inconceivable that a 21 year old Man, can decide on his own that he wants to play somehwere else?

    Especially when he sees one school is on National TV, for Every Game, Every Week? Many of them on ESPN?

    And another school will not be!

    But is stuck on local channels or Fox Regional or some future premium Pac-12 network, heloo the mtn tv.

    Or one is a Top 25 program, while the other is a perpetual doormat?

    One is paying 3 Coaches, 2 former, while the other just resigned the hottest Coach in America?

    Keep whining and running down the The Church School in these parts, Coach k and see where your program goes.

    Every great Utah team had local LDS kids. You want to win otherwise? Then you'll go the way of Wayne Howard.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    June 2, 2011 7:14 a.m.

    The Utes got Jimmered, again!

  • oldcougar Orem, UT
    June 2, 2011 7:39 a.m.

    @Wookie: BYU is as shame-less in this transaction as Utah is hap-less. And we can understand why this is so embarrassing to you. But I suspect the Ute program will be fine in the long run.

  • Big_Ben SLC, UT
    June 2, 2011 8:01 a.m.

    Best of luck to Josh. Wish it would have worked out at Utah, but best of luck in the future.

  • utahcountyute Cedar Hills, UT
    June 2, 2011 8:11 a.m.

    If the kid wants to play in the WCC, let him.

  • JapanCougar Apo, AP
    June 2, 2011 8:12 a.m.

    re: Wookie
    I'm afraid the only sense I got out of your comment is that you don't like BYU. It appears you are gathering the facts and assembling them to agree with your preconceived notions.
    You mention BYU doing the right thing with Davies and then mention Heaps not serving a mission, reflecting a double standard for BYU.
    I would tell your coworkers that individuals who attend BYU are just that, individuals. They each make their own choices. There's roughly 30,000 of them and each of them must make their own decisions and live with them.
    For every Davies out there, who does his best to accept the consequences of breaking the honor code (and does so honorably, I might add), there are players who go on national media outlets to lambast BYU about being kicked out of school. Same action by BYU different results.

    Having served a mission, I'd tell you that the only contacts I had from BYU were through my parents. I'll bet you the same was true for Sharp. So, give BYU the benefit of the doubt. Visit it sometime--it's a great place with great people.

  • Parry is a Farce Layton, UT
    June 2, 2011 8:25 a.m.

    Amazing the short memories that BYU fans have. A little over a decade ago, Utah played for the national championship the season after BYU went 1 and 25. One and twenty-five. That means they won one game that season while losing 25.

    I believe Utah went 59-8 over that 2 season stretch and made an elite eight and a National Championship game.

    Utah is down and BYU is up. But BYU is not as high as Utah has been and Utah is not as low as BYU was. This stuff ebbs and flows, and Utah will rise again. BYU fans, enjoy it while it lasts cause it won't last forever.

    Good luck to Josh Sharp. Tough decision either way.

    Oh BTW, before you rip me either way, I graduated from Utah State

  • bballjunkie Cedar Hills, UT
    June 2, 2011 8:26 a.m.

    Lets talk double standard Ute fans and the rest of you.

    Josh, mission= changes mind goes to BYU. (Utah whines about issues, pointing fingers, accusations etc Utah fans jump on band wagon)

    Murphy, mission= changes mind goes from BYU to Utah to play football and Utah says nothing, fans praise this kid, great choice, BCS over Indepen, so on and so forth.

    BYU= No ill will no coaches accusing people doing anything wrong, best of luck to him etc.

    Utah and Fans prove again there is a double standard when it comes to this subject.

  • Cynical Optimist SCOTTSBLUFF, NE
    June 2, 2011 8:33 a.m.

    scenic view | 7:12 p.m. June 1, 2011
    Baltimore, MD
    -BYU wouldn't have even had a scholarship for him if James Anderson hadn't decided to forego his senior season and another kid who was offered a scholarship decided to play at BYU-Hawaii.

    your comments about available scholarship is true but the other kid isnt going to BYU-Hawaii (division II). He is going to Hawaii-Hawaii (division I). His name is Hauns Brereton and played this past season at Western Nebraska Community College. He would have been a nice under-the-radar pickup for the cougars. Hauns said that the logical choice was to go to BYU but the spirit told him otherwise... so i guess what can be learned from this is that if the Lord is involved in recruiting he doesnt always favor BYU. This is also a nice pickup for the cougars.

  • Wasatch Al South Jordan, UT
    June 2, 2011 8:37 a.m.

    Looks like Josh would rather play his basketball in high school gyms rather than major cities in the West. Go fot it!

  • Troll Hunter Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 2, 2011 8:40 a.m.

    @Parry is a Farce

    Utah might rise again, maybe a very low seed in the Tourney but I will almost guarantee that Utah will never again be the high end "Program" they once were in the 90's.

    Fact

  • Gorum The Old Madison, AL
    June 2, 2011 8:41 a.m.

    As a missionary I was not allowed to email anyone but my immediate family. I could snail mail anyone, but email was restricted to family. Sharp could simply have been obeying mission rules when he did not email the Utah Coach.

  • Wookie Omaha, NE
    June 2, 2011 8:51 a.m.

    @JapanCoug:

    Having grown up a member and serving a mission, I know all too well what can happen in the field. Having said that, what I am trying to state is that there appears to the outside world (i.e., non-byu fans) that there is a double standard. If you think I'm wrong, ask those Ute fans posting on this article if I am incorrect (also ask non-Utah/Utah State fans) and you will get the same reaction. Compare Sharp to Foster. Foster, a good LDS athlete has seen 2 coaches change yet he kept his committment. You are right though, Sharp is making an individual choice. You and I both know what I mean by double-standard.

  • brluthi Provo, UT
    June 2, 2011 8:57 a.m.

    @Wookie
    We all know what happens when we assume. Can you tell me how you found out that BYU recruited Sharp?

    Another point: Is it BYU's fault that Hall went off on Utah? Is it the church's fault Heaps doesn't want to serve a mission? How did BYU err here? You're taking stories from individuals (even the feel-good story of Davies) and attributing them to the school itself, as if the school itself broke the honor code and redeemed itself, then turned around and decided not to go on a mission and launch a tirade against Utah. That's some weird logic you got there.

    As for Sharp, get a grip. The reason he chose Utah is no longer relevant. The man who recruited him is gone. The program he was coming into is gone. Maybe you should turn your water cooler conversation at work into one about whether or not other Ute players who left the program received as much backlash about it as Sharp. They had scholarships and commitments too.

  • BP Salt Lake City, UT
    June 2, 2011 9:25 a.m.

    Krystkowiak should probably be careful to know the situation before sounding off on a rival. Many of my mission friends chose to transfer to BYU for many reasons...many of them leaving full ride scholarships to other schools, knowing that they may not get scholarships at BYU. Not one of them was recruited in any way shape, or form by BYU.

    Maybe the kid wants to play with some of his high school teammates, or maybe he sees more potential for himself at BYU. Either way, it seems unlikely that he was actually recruited by BYU while serving a mission.

    You really have to sign all of your paperwork at once? That seems a little overly intense, especially for the "look the other way" NCAA.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    June 2, 2011 9:32 a.m.

    @wookie

    You obviously have some issues over being both Mormon and a BYU hater. It tears at your conscience and eats at your core. That's your problem and I don't care if you ever resolve it.

    But you really ought to avoid just making up "facts". I realize it is a manifestation of your conflicted loyalties but it is more unbecoming to the church than anything BYU or any BYU athlete has ever done.

  • MiP Iowa City, IA
    June 2, 2011 9:34 a.m.

    You gotta go to college where you feel it is best for you. He must feel BYU is a better fit in this case. Good luck.

    BUT...

    I do find it interesting that a little while back several BYU fans on these boards were calling this kid mediocre, 4th best on his high-school team, not recruited by BYU, leftovers for Utah, etc.

    Now that he's transferred to BYU he has miraculously become a stellar kid, great talent, etc.

    Consistent inconsistency, it's what I've come to expect. So bballjunkie, double standards don't appear to have institutional preferance.

  • Wookie Omaha, NE
    June 2, 2011 9:39 a.m.

    What you fail to recognize is that Utah is a state school representing the state of Utah and its diversity. BYU on the otherhand is a church school representing the Church and its principles. These principles carry over from day to day to day, not just Sunday. Foster kept his committment, Sharp didn't. Sharp had a 3rd party (at a minimum) communicating his standards. "Perhaps you notice how the denial is so often the preface to the justification."

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    June 2, 2011 9:49 a.m.

    wookie;
    What are the dozens of Sharp stories that demonstrate a double standard and hypocrisy? I lived outside Utah for 7 years and I never had co-workers come and tell me anything about the Y. No one cared with the exception of other church members and a fans of a local BYU opponent that knew I was LDS. None of your co-workers asked you about Hall's tirade or Heaps opting to not do as his leaders have asked and serve a mission. And no one asked you about Sharp not upholding his commitment and BYU interfering with a young man on a mission. No one there cares. Many, many kids transfer every year all over the country and unless they are transferring to or from Nebraska, no one in Omaha even noticed. Your comments are the only thing that are Shameless and embarrassing and only to you! The rest of us are just laughing at you.

  • brluthi Provo, UT
    June 2, 2011 9:59 a.m.

    @Wookie
    So what you're saying is that every time a Ute player is arrested, it's a double standard on the state of Utah, which otherwise employs law enforcement officials to combat crime.

    I know what you're trying to say here, but in the end you're just reaching with your logic.

  • brluthi Provo, UT
    June 2, 2011 10:01 a.m.

    @Wookie
    So what you're saying is that every time a Ute player is arrested, it's a double standard on the state of Utah, which otherwise employs law enforcement officials to combat crime.

    I know what you're trying to say here, but in the end you're just reaching with your logic.

  • RBN Salt Lake City, UT
    June 2, 2011 10:06 a.m.

    Good luck Josh. Way to much whining by everbody. Too much whining about Ute fans whining. Do BYU fans really think that if the shoe were on the other foot that there wouldn't be a lot of Cougars whining?

    It is what it is. I don't think this move will break the Utes or make the Cougars.

  • FinUte Cedar Park, TX
    June 2, 2011 10:12 a.m.

    I think it's too bad that folks in our day and age get so bent out of shape so easily... From the Sharp's whining about Coach K not paying enough attention to them (while their son was on a mission, no less), to fans getting upset that there was a loophole in the paperwork.

    My opinion is that things work out the way that they do for a reason. If Josh and his parents are wanting a coaching staff to massage their ego and they'd rather go to BYU where he has friends and they get to play in the WCC (instead of the Pac12, where the challenge will undoubtedly be higher) then so be it. He might be more successful in that environment, and good for him if that's the case.

    I still think the Sharps reacted poorly... but, it's their son and not mine.

  • BlueCoug Orem, UT
    June 2, 2011 10:15 a.m.

    Wookie

    Since when is it against church policy for a young man or woman to make post-mission plans while faithfully serving a church mission? Isn't that the purpose of "preparation day," to take care of personal business such as writing letters, sight-seeing, and, heaven forbid, making decisions concerning your post-mission life?

    I certainly made such decisions during my mission. In fact, like Josh, I decided to transfer from a state school in Utah, to BYU! I even ended up playing on an athletic team at BYU. I did this completely on my own without any contact from BYU. In fact, BYU had no knowledge of my plans until the day my BYU admission application arrived at BYU.

    Stories like mine happen every day. In fact, out of the thousands of missionaries currently serving all around the world, I'll bet you couldn't find a single one who won't be making post-mission plans before the conclusion of his/her mission.

    So what if Josh decided that he didn't want to return to Utah and contacted BYU to see if they had an interest in him. Since when is that a sin or crime?

  • Uteology Fort Worth, Texas
    June 2, 2011 10:20 a.m.

    BYU fans making it sound like we just lost out on the Decision II.

    Much to do about nothing.

    Now, if he helps BYU to a Final Four, like Jimmer couldn't, then we lost a great player. Until then, move on nothing speical here.

    I do like the fact that the father emailed "The Decision II" to ONLY school that gave him a chance out of high school.

  • stampederus Ephraim, UT
    June 2, 2011 10:23 a.m.

    The email notification was appropriate for this situation. It provides a written record, whereas a phone call could end up with a "he said, she said" situation and should be confirmed in writing anyway. Let's face it, the Utes blundered and are now trying to deflect criticism elsewhere.

  • morpunkt Glendora, CA
    June 2, 2011 10:34 a.m.

    It's more about the legacy of coach Rose. He deserves it.
    Coach Rose is a beloved man who can motivate players better than almost any other collegiate coach right now.

  • BYUCOLORADO Castle Rock, CO
    June 2, 2011 10:34 a.m.

    It is a foolish assumption to think that BYU recruited him while he was on his mission. I don't assume UCLA did it with Ben Olsen while he was on his mission either. Things change. Some missionaries go on a mission and then decide BYU isn't best for them (Ben Olsen). That is fine, I wish them well. Others (the majority) go on a mission and then decide they would like to play at BYU (of those changing schools). This is fine too. Utah shouldn't want a kid who doesn't want to be there. They need players who are invested in building up the Utah program again. Let him go and stop crying foul.

    I am excited to see how he does at BYU. He and Davies could be pretty formidable on the front line.

  • Madden Herriman, UT
    June 2, 2011 10:41 a.m.

    Go read the KSL story, much more informative. He was all-state, but had great teammates ahead of him. Boylen red-shirted the kid but regretted it as he played great in practices as a freshman. He is not a top recruit, but can fill a need for BYU, probably as a bench player in the next couple of years given how good both Haws and KC looked as freshmen.

  • Just the FAX Olympus Cove, Utah
    June 2, 2011 10:49 a.m.

    Uteology

    Spin it however makes you feel better, but Boylen thought Josh was one of the best players he recruited while he was at the U and Krysto wanted Josh badly enough that he tried to lay a guilt trip on everybody even remotely connected to Josh's decision to leave the U.

    Only time will tell, but at the moment, this appears to be another big loss for Utah and a big gain for BYU.

  • Pavalova Surfers Paradise, AU
    June 2, 2011 11:05 a.m.

    @Wookie, so BYU faithful should also be up-in-arms about Shawn Bradley, Steve Young, and many others to "didn't do" something to your level of acceptance. Each of us has choices to make, and consequences to deal with.

    At the end of the day, it was his choice to move on. As another poster put it, his entire environment changed from when he left. He did nothing wrong, or against the rules of the NCAA or the church.

    "There comes a point where milestones can become millstones and ambitions, albatrosses around our necks." Just let it go and move on.

  • CWEB Orem, UT
    June 2, 2011 11:23 a.m.

    Do you "really" believe BYU recruited him? Common. If you do, you have no idea what BYU is about.

    This kid made his mind up and contacted BYU. Simple. Done.

  • Riddles in the Dark Olympus Cove, Utah
    June 2, 2011 11:23 a.m.

    FinUte

    "I think it's too bad that folks in our day and age get so bent out of shape so easily... "

    I think the Sharps acted exactly as any concerned parent should have reacted. Krysto had already reneged on promised scholarships to two other returning missionaries and his failure to maintain regular contact with Josh was a red flag that he might also leave Josh high and dry upon returning from his mission.

    And there, only a few miles to the south, sits a fast rising program led by an excellent coach, who, according to recent news reports, might just have an open scholarship for Josh.

    Just because Krysto threw a little temper tantrum because Boylen dropped the ball on the paperwork and Krysto dropped the ball on communicating with his returning player, doesn't mean Josh, his parents, or BYU did anything wrong or inappropriate.

  • bigsoccer Syracuse, UT
    June 2, 2011 11:38 a.m.

    Where did this un-written rule come from? I recall a Ben Olsen that stated he was going to BYU and then UCLA got him, while he was on his mission, hmmm. Coach K just doesn't know how to work the system yet.

  • bigsoccer Syracuse, UT
    June 2, 2011 11:44 a.m.

    reply:Parry is a Farce | 8:25 a.m. June 2, 2011
    Layton, UT
    That's funny you graduated from Utah State and are a fan of them, that year that BYU went 1-25, they beat USU.

  • WestCoast1 Escondido, CA
    June 2, 2011 11:48 a.m.

    I guess the lure of playing in the mighty West Coast Conference with all of its national exposure was too great for this kid.

  • screenname123 Sandy, UT
    June 2, 2011 11:52 a.m.

    Illegal recruiting or not illegal recruiting. Ute fan or BYU fan. Doesn't matter. What does seem to matter and also seems a bit alarming is how this seems to be happening a lot lately. There was the kid from Logan. Then a couple more in football. Now this one in basketball. BYU fans want to keep bringing up Ben Olsen leaving for UCLA but that was close six or so years ago. If everyone would take there blue or crimson colored glasses off for a minute, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that something is happening that wasn't happening two years ago. An no, it's not the newly found strength of the BYU program. Minus a couple years, they have been pretty much the same type of team for the last 20. Coaches are talking to the parents of these missionaries at the VERY LEAST. I would even go as far to say in some cases the coaches are the ones initiating it. Can I prove this? NO. But no one else can prove that they aren't.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    June 2, 2011 11:59 a.m.

    @westcoast1

    Well obviously the prospect of playing for utah, regardless of the conference they are in, didn't have enough lure.

    Now an honest question. Why did Sharp do it? I know you don't have the answer but why do you think he did it? It is obvious utah wanted to keep him as they made a pretty big deal about it. So why did Sharp decide to leave and even more important than that why did he decide to go to BYU?

    I can think of numerous reasons but I would be very interested in getting a Ute fans take on it.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    June 2, 2011 12:07 p.m.

    @screenname123

    So since no one can prove that "they aren't" that must mean there is something to last weeks Big East talking to BYU rumor also?

    How about this one, since you can't prove whittingham isn't talking to kids on their missions, and jake murphy decided to transfer from BYU to utah while on his mission it must mean utah is talking to kids on their missions, or their parents, at the VERY LEAST. Isn't that so?

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, Utah
    June 2, 2011 12:20 p.m.

    "Looks like Josh would rather play his basketball in high school gyms rather than major cities in the West. Go fot it!"

    You mean he left the major cities like Eugene, OR and Corvalis, OR to play in cities like San Diego and San Fransisco? You need to think about what you are saying.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    June 2, 2011 12:24 p.m.

    screenname--
    Really? You're looking for a conspiracy where there is none. Athlete or non-athlete, kids go on missions and decide to transfer to BYU ALL THE TIME. The reverse is very rare (Ben Olsen being one off these exceptions). So what do you HONESTLY think is more likely--that Sharps decided on his own with possible parental input to abandon the trainwreck Utah for BYU, or BYU coaches pressured him and his parents to transfer to BYU knowing he probably would never be a starter.

    You're right, with the info we have at this point, neither scenario can be proven, but based on past patterns and behaviors, the logical observer would come to the conclusion that Sharps came to this decision on his own without undue influence by BYU recruiters.

  • byronbca Salt Lake City, UT
    June 2, 2011 12:42 p.m.

    Why is BYU recruiting players while they are on their missions? Doesn't BYU want missionaries focused on missionary work? Kinda seems hypocritical, I have a hard time believing mission rules weren't being broken in this process.

    But maybe mission rules don't apply to potential BYU recruits.

  • 1984 for life Salt Lake City, UT
    June 2, 2011 12:53 p.m.

    Told you. Lone Peak athlete = BYU signee. Look elsewhere for players Utah.

  • Serenity Now American Fork, UT
    June 2, 2011 12:59 p.m.

    The transfer is nothing for Utes to cry about. Josh likely felt the collective tugging on his heartstrings of: (a) BYU, sponsored by the same faith he was representing for 2 years; (b) a rising program, led by a great coach; and (c) a reunion with former Lone Peak teammates Nate Austin and Tyler Haws (next year when Tyler returns from his mission, unless he can't resist Utah's PAC 10.2 affiliation and transfers up north...;)).

  • altahoops Provo, UT
    June 2, 2011 1:21 p.m.

    What gets me is why this is even a story. "Redshirt Ute Freshman to Walk On at BYU". So? I read the story in the Daily Herald this morning. The story took up half the sports section with a giant picture on the front page. I thought maybe it was another story about Jimmer the way it was hyped. All I could think was that Mr. Sharp hadn't seen his kid's name in the paper for so long that he was having withdrawals and sent the sports writer (possibly a neighbor or relative) a big long story about his son that no one remembers.

  • In Stitches Provo, Utah
    June 2, 2011 1:35 p.m.

    Wookie

    Newsflash. A bunch of us HAVE lived outside the state and nobody outside of BYU/U of U ever heard of Hall's "tirade" or have even given a thought that Heaps isn't serving a mission. When pointing out hypocrisy, you should look in the mirror. It's hard to claim the high moral ground when you're not standing on it!

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    June 2, 2011 1:45 p.m.

    An article in the Tribune indicates Josh Sharp asked for his release from the U several times, but was denied. He wanted out of the program long before BYU made any contact and BYU didn't make contact until they received word from the U about the paperwork mistake. This is definitely a loss for the Ute's program, but it is also just one more thing that I think we can blame on Boylen. He ran the program into the ground and I don't think Sharp would have come back to the U even if Boylen were still there.

    Good luck to Josh at BYU.

  • In Stitches Provo, Utah
    June 2, 2011 1:49 p.m.

    Wookie

    You DO realize that a scholarship is a year by year thing, right? He fulfilled his one year commitment for his one year of free school. To suggest his commitment extends beyond that is conveniently pharisaical. If you want to be ticked, be ticked at the guy whose job it was to do the paperwork CORRECTLY. Oh, I see, you're conveniently giving him a pass while crucifying Sharp and BYU. How "un-hypocrical" of U.

    Plus, you sound like a plain, ol' fashioned sore loser. So, go and enjoy the BCS (which you all just abhorred a year and a half ago...).

    By the way, I'm from out-of-state and none of my friends there have even thought about whether Heaps was going to serve a mission or not. So, let's give that kid his free-agency (according to The Plan) shall we and stop trying to judge EVERYONE.

  • Utes21 Salt Lake City, ut
    June 2, 2011 1:49 p.m.

    He will be the next Jimmer for sure!

  • screenname123 Sandy, UT
    June 2, 2011 1:50 p.m.

    Idablu,
    I agree that he will most likely never be a starter. At either program. However, the kid will be used as a tool by BYU to show other potential recruits how kids are leaving Utah to go to BYU. This can be very powerful ESPECIALLY when recruiting the Lone Peak kids. I saw Boylen at least at four Lone Peak games this last year. Don't think for a minute that he was using Sharp as a tool for recruiting their players. My point is that BYU fans seem to be painting this picture that no reruiting is going on while kids are on their missions. When the evidence suggests that there is. As for the earlier post stating that we don't know if Whittingham is doing the same thing, you are correct. We don't. However, what we do know is that kids aren't deciding to transfer to Utah while on their missions. But kids are deciding to go to BYU while on missions. Once again, if BOTH SIDES would take off their fan glasses, it's pretty apparent that something is going on.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    June 2, 2011 2:39 p.m.

    Good to see Sharp's focus is on where it should be - HIS MISSION! Has anyone told him yet that he will be playing to crowds of dozens of people in the WCC? Maybe he can answer this question for us all who don't understand the WCC - what is the ruling when the tipoff hits the ceiling?

    Go Santa Clara!!

  • Farid @ Pocatello Pocatello, ID
    June 2, 2011 2:57 p.m.

    I like many of you don't think that Sharp is going to be a starter but he could become a quality reserve off the bench. I've always thought that great teams are good ones with a deep bench. Sharp will without question bring more to the court than James Anderson (who I liked).

    @In Stitches: I have a college degree (sadly, not from the Y and luckily, not from the U) and I have never heard the word "pharisaical." What does that mean?

    Regarding the U not having any local products, I think this is going to be the norm. To compete with Pac-12 teams, the Utes will have to shy away from the LDS good-but-not-great players and bring in the big-city kids from California, leaving BYU to pick and choose among them. Utah gets more secular and BYU gets more Utah/Mormon, making the rivalry even more delicious.

    And from what I heard, Boylen didn't "screw up" the paperwork. He did it on purpose as a "soft commit" that he could back out of if needed. Has any one else heard it that way?

    Good luck Utes, Go Cougars.

  • SeattleUhasabballteam? Seattle, WA
    June 2, 2011 2:58 p.m.

    I thought about it during my mission and Utah just seemed the place to be,

    - Jake Murphy

    Vegas Ute, et al: mind showing us where and when you said the same things about Jake Murphy... crickets

  • SyracuseCoug Syracuse, ut
    June 2, 2011 2:58 p.m.

    Stop with the "He should focus on his Mission" garbage. I was very concerned about what happened to me after my mission, which is why I spent p-days looking over college applications, as did every other missionary in my mission. Good grief, give it a rest. You CAN be a good missionary and think about your future for heaven's sake. I even went sight-seeing and did my laundry on p-day, I guess I just wasn't focused enough.

    I guess he is suppossed to just step off the plane and say "Wow, I better think about school now, oh well, I guess I'll just sit at mom and dad's house for six months while I fill out collegee applications."

    Hey VegasUte, he may be in the WCC, but at least we can watch him play.....on TV that is.

    Good luck Sharp!

  • AZguy Phoenix, AZ
    June 2, 2011 3:01 p.m.

    An aquaintence of mine plays D-1 basketball. In talking with his mission pres., he told him he wanted to make plans so he could enroll in college after his mission. The mission pres. said that was fine and told him recruiters could talk to him for one day. The schools were contacted and made arrangements to meet him on his P-Day. UCONN, ASU, and BYU all made the trip to his mission to visit with him on his P-Day and made their pitch. He felt good about ASU, finished his mission, and is now playing for the Sun Devils.

    The point is that it is usually the player that changes his mind or wants to make the plan for after a mission. If they wait until they are done with a mission, they are going to have to wait another year. I filled out three college apps while I was on a mission and I kept my focus. It is not a sin to plan for the future.

    I would guess that BYU did not recruit this missionary. His family probably made the first move. I would like that confirmed though.

  • Broom Hockey Champ Alpine, UT
    June 2, 2011 3:06 p.m.

    Sharpie is bringing his talents to Provo just like Troy Hinds, Chase Hansen, and Brandon Fanaika.

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    June 2, 2011 3:07 p.m.

    "We want Josh to be a part of our program and are disappointed that rival schools can take advantage of a loophole in the system should they choose," said Krystkowiak, who has repeatedly declined to specifically identify any other programs. "Josh attended classes here for a year, signed an NLI and financial aid agreement, and we want him to continue his education and playing career here."

    I feel real bad for the ute nation. Wouldn't it be a no brainer for the kid to go with the BCS??

  • AZguy Phoenix, AZ
    June 2, 2011 3:12 p.m.

    Good comments on people changing their minds on their mission. Two of my neighbors had full athletic scholarships in CA their first year of college. When they were on their missions, both decided they wanted to attend BYU on their own dime. It happens.

  • Laser Iowa City, IA
    June 2, 2011 3:16 p.m.

    Sharp's parents are probably so glad they helped their son move to BYU, especially after reading what the U fans say on these comment boards.

  • Bottom Line Draper, UT
    June 2, 2011 3:24 p.m.

    Nice to see quality comments on this even amongst the ridiculous rants. Thank you to those offering perspective.

  • Duckhunter Hunter Alpine, UT
    June 2, 2011 3:29 p.m.

    @Laser - Because BYU fans never say anything remotely ridiculous (rolling my eyes).......

  • USAlover Salt Lake City, UT
    June 2, 2011 3:38 p.m.

    Boy, if there ever was any doubt in this kid about going to Utah, the comments on this thread by Utah fans should erase any doubt.

    Why would any LDS return missionary play for a coach who said he doesn't want to recruit missionaries?

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    June 2, 2011 3:40 p.m.

    @screenname123

    "what we do know is that kids aren't deciding to transfer to Utah while on their missions"

    Actually we know exactly the opposite.

    "I thought about it during my mission and Utah just seemed the place to be,

    - Jake Murphy"

    Thanks to SeattleU for that quote.

    So what we also here is that you are either ignorant to the facts or else you are purposely trying to distort them for your own purposes.

  • Parry is a Farce Layton, UT
    June 2, 2011 3:43 p.m.

    @ Troll Hunter

    You're right, Utah might never reach the success of the 90s again. I did not think they'd ever reach their success of the 60s again, but they did in the 90s, so you never know. But my point is that BYU has NEVER had that kind of success.

    BYU is up now and Utah is down. In 5 years, Utah may be up again.

    My point is people like Bluto at 7:02 who refered to Utah as a "perpetual doormat". Utah is historically one of the top 10 or 15 programs in the country and while they are currently struggling, a "perpetual doormat" is quite a stretch for one of the historically top 15 programs in the country (I base that on tournament appearances, overall wins, final 4s, tournament wins, etc.). BYU is probably top 25 by the same criteria.

  • Cougarista Salt Lake City, UT
    June 2, 2011 4:49 p.m.

    Good move for Sharp and BYU. Free agency occurs not only in professional sports.

  • IDC Boise, ID
    June 2, 2011 4:50 p.m.

    Don't know much about the kid but if the Utes want him that bad, he must have some skills. Welcome aboard.

  • Tomahawk Red North Salt Lake, UT
    June 2, 2011 6:04 p.m.

    Duckhunter... you exemplify why its so easy to continue despising your kind. Instead of celebrating a good pickup by your team, you instead choose to beat your same tired drum. It's getting really old pal. Really old.

    Now, actually addressing the topic at hand...

    I dislike BYU as much as anyone, but this is fine with me. I'm not sold on Sharp... but the bottom line is, if he doesn't want to be a Ute... let him go. Coach K will find someone else to pick up the slack. Congrats BYU on the pickup.

  • LP Grad, BYU Alum Provo, UT
    June 2, 2011 6:10 p.m.

    Parry,

    To say that BYU has never been as high as Utah is a bit of a stretch, don't you think? I do agree that it ebbs and flows, but I think your red glasses are getting in the way a little bit. BYU's got 2 NIT titles, from back when the NIT was the premier tournament in the country, and much more prestigious than the NCAA tourney. Add that to the Ainge era, and now the Jimmer era. So I guess my point is that you are correct in that Utah will not stay dormant for long, and that things do change quickly. But I disagree with your assessment that BYU has never been as high as Utah. If your statement were true, mine would be just as valid when I say Utah has never been as high as BYU in football. I think Utah has made tremendous inroads as a non-AQ team, and will now reap the benefits as a revenue-sharing AQ. In terms of national prominence, Utah and BYU football are both pretty good. So give props where they are due...to both programs.

  • Wookie Omaha, NE
    June 2, 2011 7:17 p.m.

    Okay it's settled, sharp has no scruples and will fit in with the hypocritical standards of those who justify his actions.

  • Uteology Fort Worth, Texas
    June 2, 2011 7:44 p.m.

    @Parry is a Farce

    Are you new to these threads? Try skipping over Bluto's posts, he's the type of fan the Bronco was referring to as described in this article "BYU Head Coach Bronco Mendenhall Calls Own Fans Dumb".

    Utah is horrible today, there's no defending that. However, a team that finished #1 MWC in 2008 and Sweet 16 2005 is hardly a doormat.

    @LP Grad, BYU Alum

    Since BYU fans are all over Ute football for not being on ESPN. I figured I use some facts posted on ESPN to make a point:

    UTAH NCAA TOURNAMENT HISTORY
    Final Fours: 4
    Tournament Record: 35-30
    Championship Seasons: 1944
    Tournament Appearances: 27

    BYU TOURNAMENT HISTORY
    Final Fours: 0
    Tournament Record: 14-29
    Championship Seasons: None
    Tournament Appearances: 26

    Nope, no mention about the NIT. No one cares about the 1944 title. But Jimmer and Ainge era's combined can't match the the 1998 team.

  • joecoog North Las Vegas, NV
    June 2, 2011 7:50 p.m.

    wookie, why are you only going after this kid for leaving. what about the other 7 or the exodus that happened last year? What about jake murphy? What about burton and others that left early for the pros? I doubt that you will respond to this because you have failed to defend your own hypocrisy when pointed out by others using these same examples.

  • joecoog North Las Vegas, NV
    June 2, 2011 7:57 p.m.

    I think this situation is similar to the one with ben olsen. I was really bummed that he decided to transfer but there wasnt all of this venoum coming from cougar fans. Yes, all of us were disappointed that he left but we realized it was because 1. byu's head coach was fired and 2. byu was not playing very well. That is what i blamed on olsen tranfering. I just think that its very telling that most (not all) utes on this board are not only blaming the kid and byu but they are using personal attacks by calling him hypocritical. Just a difference that I notice about byu and ute fans.

  • CougarOnTheProwl Murray, UT
    June 2, 2011 8:08 p.m.

    Josh made a smart decision to transfer to BYU, he must be very Sharp. Welcome aboard Josh!

  • man of few words Salt Lake City, UT
    June 2, 2011 8:43 p.m.

    Wookie,

    It seems hypocritical of me that you should take this opportunity to BYU bash when BYU nor Sharp did anything to cause this. YOU all fired the coach Sharp wanted to play for. YOUR paperwork guy didn't do his job correctly. And YOUR new coach didn't instill this kid with enough confidence for him to stick around anyway.

    Maybe your self-pitying blame game should start at the U.

  • B Logan, UT
    June 2, 2011 9:32 p.m.

    It's like Patton said: "Americans love a winner and will not tolerate a loser." The Utah Basketball program is a stinker right now. The kid could see that as well as anyone.

  • FanofBYU American Fork, UT
    June 2, 2011 11:41 p.m.

    Hey folks, Coach has himself to blame for this. Based on the article, it would appear that Coach K wasn't even trying to develop a connection with this young man. Why? How hard would it have been to arrange a meeting with him and his family while he was in the neighborhood?

    It will be much harder for him to recruit in-state talent after this. All eyes are on him and he isn't scoring any points.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    June 2, 2011 11:46 p.m.

    Can y'all quit referring to Larry Krystkowiak as Coach K. There is only one Coach K and it is not Larry Krystkowiak.

    If you must shorten his name, how 'bout Coach L, Coach Kryst, Kowiak or just Larry.

  • Cougars - Wise Older Brothers Anaheim, CA
    June 3, 2011 12:35 a.m.

    Uteology

    While U were busy polishing your 67-year-old trophy for winning the weakest NCAA tournament in history, Coach Rose and BYU sprinted past U and are steadily leaving U in our rear-view mirror.

    Dave Rose Era
    BYU - overall 159-45 (77.9%); MWC 78-18 (81.3%); 4 championships; 5 NCAAs
    Utah - overall 95-94 (50.3%); MWC 44-52 (45.8%); 1 championship; 1 NCAA

    BYU was in the Sweet Sixteen in 2011
    Utah has only played in one NCAA since 2005

    head-to-head
    BYU 10 (including 9 of the last 10)
    Utah 3

    Like almost every other Utah player the past two seasons, Josh simply took a hard look at that train wreck on the hill and decided he'd rather be part of a winning program.

  • zeba Brigham City, UT
    June 3, 2011 12:40 a.m.

    Everyone seems to be missing the obvious... What missionary athlete that has transferred to BYU has made much of an improvement? And it seems all the best athletes at BYU didn't go on missions... Young, McMahon, Detmer, Jimmer, Heaps?

    If Sharp turns out to be an exception to what I mentioned, then Coach K only has himself to blame, he should have reached out to Sharp's family.

  • UteExpat London, United Kingdom
    June 3, 2011 3:31 a.m.

    What a wimpy way to go about this. His dad emailed the coach? Neither one had the guts to make a phone call? Have some pride and man up. And don't give me this baloney about mission rules preventing a call. If he's thinking about it while on his mission, he may as well make the call.

  • defibman Syracuse, UT
    June 3, 2011 6:02 a.m.

    Boy, after reading all these posts I really think that u fans are REALLY, REALLY worried about your program. So many players have left the team and the new coach and already opened his mouth and made it sound like he doesn't understand the universities in the state and now u finally realize that your bball program is a complete and utter train wreck.

    Will the program make a come back? If u were in the MWC or WAC I would say yes, but since you will be competing in the pac 10.1.1, it is a big NO. Say good bye to the basketball program or at least competing or playing in the big dance for the foreseeable future.

  • Rikitikitavi Cardston, Alberta
    June 3, 2011 6:02 a.m.

    to coach K2: I get it that you are new to how things work in Utah. Take it from me: when BYU says it, they mean it. When BYU says they DO NOT RECRUIT missionaries currently serving...they REALLY do hold to their word. It's called INTEGRITY! Best of luck. Any contact between missionaries and BYU (players not bound to BYU) comes via DAD...NEVER initiated or even followed up by BYU but by DAD. The e-mail thing is a non-issue, give it a rest already.

  • rlsintx Plano, TX
    June 3, 2011 6:22 a.m.

    As far as I'm concerned, because a player is recruited by the mouth of a different head coach, the day that promise maker is gone - ALL the players he recruited should be allowed the opportunity to choose to play elsewhere if they so desire.

    I've watched too many athletes give up their lives to be at a place because of the coach and his promises, and then to have it all blown away in an instant with a coaching change.

    IF the coaches have opportunity to change commitments without loss of continuity, so should the players.

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    June 3, 2011 7:08 a.m.

    Perpetual Doormat, refers to the entire Athletic Department. Utah won 1 Conference Championship last year. BYU won 9. Standard fare.

    Utah will not win a Conference Championship in any sport in the next 20 years, with perhaps the exception of gymnastics, and even there, UCLA has had their number for years.

    They will also become, in short order, a bottomfeeder program in the Pac 10 little 2.

    Every Conference has them.

    Utah = Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Rutgers, Wake Forrest, Baylor, Washington State, etc....

    They'll never be UCLA, USC, ASU, Arisona, Washington, Oregon or a Stanford.

    So enjoy your tv dollars as the doormats of other leagues do and realize that like them, U will not be getting National TV time either.

  • billybubba South Jordan, UT
    June 3, 2011 7:22 a.m.

    @CougFaninTX
    I think coach should go with coach LK this should work for all that are confussed with the other coach k..............

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 3, 2011 8:14 a.m.

    UteExpat

    "What a wimpy way to go about this. His dad emailed the coach?"

    His dad created a verifiable, indisputable communication. A phone call can easily become a he said/he said situation and a written letter would take at least a day longer.

    It's funny how outraged Utah fans become when a missionary decides to transfer from BYU to Utah, but not a word is said by BYU fans when a missionary transfers from BYU to Utah.

    What really irks U about the whole Josh Sharp situation is that BYU's basketball program is now considered to be so much better than Utah's, that a quality player, on his own, initiated a transfer from Utah to BYU.

    Utah hit its highwater mark in 1998 and the program has been in steady decline since. Bogut and Neville provided a couple of brief sparks of life for the program, but it's now headed for doormat status in a sometimes power conference.

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    June 3, 2011 8:44 a.m.

    FanofBYU,

    Did it ever occur to you that maybe Coach K was trying to respect the Church's rules regarding missionaries not having contact with people back home outside their immediate family? Another factor is that he thought there wouldn't be a problem since Josh was on scholarship and he wanted to wait until he could talk face to face.

    This kid was gone before Coach K took over. He and his family have simply used the supposed lack of contact as an excuse.

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    June 3, 2011 8:47 a.m.

    CougFaninTX,

    You talk as if Duke's coach is somehow a god or has a patent on the nick name. Get over it. Shortening the name to Coach K is easy and everyone here knows who were are talking about.

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    June 3, 2011 8:55 a.m.

    UteExpat,

    I will defend Josh for not making direct contact himself and I know Coach K understands the mission rules enough to not be offended by that. My son couldn't even call me while he was serving so why would it be appropriate for Josh to call a coach?

    At the same time, zeba, I believe Coach K was trying to respect the mission rules himself by not contacting Josh. He didn't contact the family either for a couple of reasons that he has explained in some interviews. One is he had a lot to do in the first few months on the job and the last thing he was worrying about were kids locked into scholarships. He figured he didn't need to deal with Josh until he got home and that was the plan. It would have worked fine, if the paperwork error had not happened and if Josh's family hadn't been actively trying to get him out of his scholarship even before Coach K took over. I don't know how badly Josh wanted out, but his family definitely wanted him out of it.

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    June 3, 2011 9:00 a.m.

    Rikitikitavi,

    Hold on a minute. Lya Wodraska in the Tribune reported that BYU made the contact with the U that uncovered the paperwork error. So don't play the holier than thou card and try to say BYU wasn't involved in making this happen. I'm sure Sharp's family called BYU officials to see what could be done, because the U had twice denied their efforts to get Josh released from his scholarship. BYU then contacted the U athletic department which led to the discovery of the paperwork error. If you want to talk about integrity, how about the U officials who disclosed the error knowing they would lose this kid. They could have simply kept it quiet and again denied the request to release him.

  • AZguy Phoenix, AZ
    June 3, 2011 9:29 a.m.

    rlsintx-Completely agree. If there is a coaching change, players ought to be able to look at other schools with no penalty. I don't think schools should be able to recruit, but the players can make contact.

    MormonUte-
    I agree with your comment. that is the way I read the article-BYU contacted the U about the paperwork. That does not mean that BYU made the first contact, but they were not completely hands off.

    I would like it confirmed that BYU did not make the first contact and was just reacting from a representative of the player (family member in this case). My understanding has always been that BYU does not contact missionaries to recruit them. Contact has to be made from the player. That, I believe, should be a strict internal BYU rule if it is not already.

  • SLCWatch Salt Lake City, UT
    June 3, 2011 10:41 a.m.

    For anyone still following this thread it would benefit the discussion if you read the Provo Daily Hearld article "Former Lone Peak standout will be a Cougar". This is a well written, detailed and chronological explanation of what occurred and dispells almost every bit of conjecture, guessing, inuendo, false beliefs and backbiting that this thread has contained.
    Like it or not...Josh just decided to make a change.
    Excellent piece of journalism.

  • Swoop Salt Lake City, UT
    June 3, 2011 6:43 p.m.

    Mormon Ute

    "If you want to talk about integrity, how about the U officials who disclosed the error knowing they would lose this kid. They could have simply kept it quiet and again denied the request to release him."

    Kept it quiet and risked a possible NCAA rules violation for falsifying a legitimate request for information from a member institution?

    Failure to disclose known information is just as much a lie as providing false information -- ask Jim Tressel.

  • Cougar in Texas Houston, TX
    June 3, 2011 8:22 p.m.

    AZguy: I would guess that BYU did not recruit this missionary. His family probably made the first move. I would like this confirmed though.

    As noted above, the Provo Herald has an article with full quotes from Sharp's father. Go there and you will see that BYU did not recruit Sharp while on his mission (he is serving in my mission now, btw) and in fact Sharp is essentially walking on at BYU to try and earn a scholarship.

    It is disturbing that a few Ute fans are trying to make this into some sort of hypocritical conspiracy by BYU. Props to the many Ute fans who are not falling for that superficial characterization and can see this for what it is - a kid making a decision.

  • Oh, please! Saint George, UT
    June 4, 2011 11:24 a.m.

    This change-thing happens even with the "big" names. According to a Wikipedia article regarding Kris Humphries (current NBA player):

    "Coming out of high school, Humphries had accepted a scholarship offer to Duke University, but later reconsidered and attended the University of Minnesota instead."

    Humphries, Sharp, Nelson, Olsen, and many others (athletes or not) appear to change their minds for whatever reason and want to attend a different school than they originally had planned to attend. It's not a crime, sin, or whatever. These KIDS just change their minds and want to be with different coaches, programs, players, girlfriends, best friends, mission companions, siblings...

    Give it a rest and move on! Let the kid alone!!!

  • Lone Star Cougar Plano, TX
    June 6, 2011 8:50 a.m.

    Good luck to Elder Sharp and good luck to Coach Krysco.

  • Ender Salt Lake City, UT
    June 6, 2011 3:19 p.m.

    As an active LDS Church member, I am disappointed by the BYU fans who are defending Sharp's actions. He is still on his mission!

    Rather than communicating his son's decisions regarding where Josh will play basketball upon his return, Sharp's father should be telling Josh the same thing that Pres. Hickley's father told him, "Gordon . . . I have only one suggestion: forget yourself and go to work."

    While serving a mission, "but one thing is needful" and that is NOT worrying about where to play basketball after the mission.

  • Sportfanatic West Jordan, UT
    June 6, 2011 3:37 p.m.

    First of all, I wish the Utah fans would stop calling him Coach K. Like a previous poster said, there is only "1" Coach K and he doesn't live in Utah.

    Second of all, recruits choose universities because of coaches that have spent the time to get to know them and recruit them. Coach Boylen was fired and sent on his way. Josh now has no ties to the Utes. He owes the new coach or his staff nothing. Why do you Yewtes think that other players bolted for greener pastures as well? the utes now have a very unproven coach over a team that is moving to a much more talented conference, and we all know that Utah will be the bottom feeders in the PAC12 for several years to come. BYU has a proven, successful coach, and a program that has been on the rise for years. BYU wants him, and they have a spot for him. Josh would be a fool for staying at Utah, when the Y is in a much better position as far as their independence and their TV contract with ESPN and BYUTV. Its called exposure. Good luck Josh. COUGSROCK.

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    June 7, 2011 8:33 a.m.

    Ender,

    You make a good point and I believe part of the reason Coach K didn't make contact right away was to respect that.

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    June 7, 2011 8:47 a.m.

    Sportfanatic,

    You can wish all you want, but the name Coach K is not a registered trade mark. It works for many of us, so you'll just have to get used to it. We like our new coach and the ealy moves he has made to get the program back on track.

    I am puzzled by the number of BYU fans defending Josh and his family's actions. Why do you think he was originally going to walk on at BYU before the paperwork error was discovered? Because NCAA rules say unless a program releases you from your contract with them, no other program can offer you a scholarship for at least 1 year. Why is that rule in place? To encourage these kids to honor their agreements and keep their word. As has been pointed out by others, he got a year's worth of schooling and the U got nothing from him.

    I don't begrudge Josh his right to change his mind. He obviously didn't want to be a Ute, but I do think too many BYU fans are trying to sugar coat the lack of integrity shown by Josh and his family.